Posted: Friday, December 12, 2008, 8:18 AM | 329 comments |
 
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Raul Ibanez will be roaming left field for the Phillies through 2011.

Is this deal with Ibanez good for the Phillies?
Yes
No
I have to wait and see

The Phillies have agreed to terms with free agent leftfielder Raul Ibanez.

It will be a three-year, $31.5 million contract.

Ibanez, 36, fills a void that had been in left field since the season ended. It became clear the Phillies did not want free agent leftfielder Pat Burrell back, and Ibanez quickly emerged as one of their top choices. They tried earlier this week to acquire Mark DeRosa from the Chicago Cubs, but once that fell through they stepped up their efforts with Ibanez, who they had been talking to for a while.

Ibanez, 36, hit .293 with 23 home runs and 110 RBIs last season for the Seattle Mariners. He has 338 RBIs over the past three seasons, which ranks 12th in baseball. Interestingly, Ryan Howard ranks first (431) and Chase Utley ranks 20th (309), which means the Phillies have three of the top 20 RBI-men over the past three years in their lineup. (Only three outfielders -- Magglio Ordonez, Carlos Beltran and Matt Holliday -- have more RBIs than Ibanez in that span.) Burrell ranked 32nd in that category with 278 RBIs. Of course, Burrell also hit righthanded, which is important to Phillies manager Charlie Manuel. He strives for balance in his lineup, but it looks like Manuel will have lefthanded hitters in his Nos. 3, 4 and 5 slots.

Ibanez is a career .286 hitter. He hit better against lefthanded pitching (.305) than righthanded pitching (.288) last season, but in his career he is 25 points better against righthanders (.293) than lefthanders (.268). Howard hits 73 points better against righthanders and Utley hits 26 points better against righthanders. Burrell hits 25 points better against lefthanders, but weighing their options the Phillies obviously felt they are better with Ibanez than Burrell.

Because Ibanez is a Type A free agent and because the Mariners offered him salary arbitration, the Phillies will forfeit their first-round draft pick in 2009 to the Mariners.

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Burrell leaves the Phillies in third place on the franchise's all-time list in home runs (251) behind Mike Schmidt (548) and Del Ennis (259). He also ranks seventh in RBIs (827), eighth in extra-base hits (518), fifth in walks (785) and second in strikeouts (1,273).

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Here's another thing to consider when looking at Ibanez's numbers: He played half his games in Safeco Field. According to The Bill James Handbook 2009, Safeco Field had a 92 runs index from 2006-08, which ranked 12th out of 14 ballparks in the American League. Citizens Bank Park had a 104 runs index from 2006-08, which ranked fifth out of 16 ballparks in the National League.

A 100 index means the park is neutral to hitters and pitchers. An index higher than 100 favors hitters and an index less than 100 favors pitchers. Ibanez put up those numbers in a pitcher-friendly ballpark. He could find things a bit better in Philly.

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The Phillies are still looking for pitching.

Contract negotiations with Jamie Moyer have gone very slowly, but Manuel said he thinks Moyer, who has been talking to the Brewers, will be back. If that happens, the first four spots in the Phillies' rotation are secure: Cole Hamels, Brett Myers, Joe Blanton and Moyer. Manuel said he expected J.A. Happ, Kyle Kendrick and Carlos Carrasco to compete for the fifth spot. Manuel didn't mention Adam Eaton, and for good reason: the Phillies are trying to give him away, eating most of his salary in the process.

Sources said yesterday the Phillies are close to a deal for righthanded relief pitcher Chan Ho Park.

The Phillies are expected to sign righthander Blaine Neal to a minor-league contract. Neal, a South Jersey native and Bishop Eustace graduate, has pitched in the majors for Florida, San Diego, Colorado and Boston. Neal and Mike Koplove, a Philadelphia native who agreed to terms to a minor-league contract last month, will get looks in major-league camp this spring.

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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:20 AM, 12/12/2008
    This is a solid signing, although we still need a right handed bat.
    Gary Varsho
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:26 AM, 12/12/2008
    A bit sad since this probably ends the Pat "The Bat" Burrell era. Heard rumor that the Brew Crew are interested in Moyer. Maybe that will get things rolling btwn him and the Fightin's
    KarenA
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:27 AM, 12/12/2008
    Nice signing! And it looks like they got him cheaper than what Ibanez was originally looking for in the 12 or 13 million/yr range.
    parkwood
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:28 AM, 12/12/2008
    Horrible... 36 year old lefty who costs us a 1st round draft pick... below avg speed and fielder. How is this better than at least offering arb to Burrell? So now instead of having at least one 1st rd pick we have none! Can't wait for our first pick at #70! I haven't been this mad at the Phillies in a while. Feels like old times. We will be paying $10 mil in 2011 to a 39 year old who is likely headed for an inevitable fast decline, instead of, at the worst, retaining a RH, younger hitter for less years and total cost, so we could use the money elsewhere for say, I don't know, a starting pitcher!
    CyHamels
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:33 AM, 12/12/2008
    Oh great, just what this team needs. An overpriced, aging veteran.
    Mike Kotyk
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:33 AM, 12/12/2008
    Excellent choice and decisively done.
    JayW
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:33 AM, 12/12/2008
    sad to see Pat go but this is a very good thing.
    Bender
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:34 AM, 12/12/2008
    Great signing - if you look at Ibanez's splits from last season, he actually hit lefties better than he did righties. Burrell is a career .276 hitter against left handed pitching, while Ibanez is a career .268 hitter against left handed pitching. Granted, Burrell has a higher OBP and SLG%, but the drop-off isn't that significant. In all, we're looking at a guy who's averaged 112 RBI, 25 HR and a .291 average the past three seasons. Can you say upgrade?
    tjc
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:35 AM, 12/12/2008
    Look at his career stats last year was an aberration. Don't kid yourself. Why would someone think he could improve at 36?
    CyHamels
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:35 AM, 12/12/2008
    36 year old getting a 3 year, $30 million deal? Absurd especially when you consider Burrells career averages per 162 games are higher. This kind of reminds me of past free agent blunders...Parrish, Jeffries, Thome, etc. I could go on but why bother? They still need another righthanded bat in the lineup. A starter at the back end of the rotation would be nice as well should any combination of Happ, Carrasco and/or Kendrick not work out.
    mdriban
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:36 AM, 12/12/2008
    Phils didn't want to pay Burrell $16 mil for one season, especially because he gets pulled in the 7th for defense. However, I'm not sure if Ibanez can replace his numbers, he doesn't walk alot. Probably a better defender and baserunner, and he actually hits lefties pretty well. Not as prone to streakiness as Burrell.
    RG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:36 AM, 12/12/2008
    Great deal and we lose none of our pitching prospects. The first round pick is like a high second anyway.
    GarnetValley Mike
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:37 AM, 12/12/2008
    burrell was great, but too streaky. raul hit consistently in the AL, against better pitching in deeper parks. he will only improve in the NL. and better yet, i'm so glad to see that Pat Gillick remains active. i trust him entirely. Gillick was a GM that made so many great moves like this one- ala moyer- and he explains why he made them to the press. imagine that fat andy?
    jb99
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:37 AM, 12/12/2008
    We lose a first round pick with this, but gain one when Burrell signs elsewhere. Stop complaining, the guy bats close to .300 with 20+ HR's and 100+ RBI every year. And 10 mil is a good price.
    Gary Varsho
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:39 AM, 12/12/2008
    This stinks of Gillick....good thing to know we have another puppet in the front office in Amaro.
    mdriban


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