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Halladay and agent in Philadelphia UPDATED

POSTED: Monday, December 14, 2009, 2:45 PM

Who would you rather have, Roy Halladay or Cliff Lee?
Roy Halladay
Cliff Lee
 
UPDATED, 10:00pm
 
So where are we at the end of a long day of reports--ours and others'-- flying across the World Wide Web about the Lee/Halladay stunner? Not quite there, it appears, but headed in the direction of a huge trade.
 
A baseball source told the Inquirer tonight that a deal was not totally done. There were several other indications that it was close.  With a contract extension to be worked out, medical records to be reviewed, and three teams needing to make final decisions, it is no surpise that this is taking time. The names batted around as future Blue Jays in various reports were pitchers Kyle Drabek, outfielders Michael Taylor or Domonic Brown. CSNphilly.com had the first report of Drabek being included, which was later followed up on by the Toronto Sun. 
 
Ruben Amaro did not respond to phone calls seeking comment today, and team president David Montgomery said he "could not comment." It is the Phillies' policy never to publicly address trade talks. 
 
Keep this in mind: Even if the Phils lose Drabek in this deal, they would be surrendering less than the package requested in July of Drabek, Brown, J.A. Happ and Anthony Gose for Halladay.
 
Baseball America considers Drabek a potential no. 2 or 3 starter, and wouldn’t you give that up to get Halladay? We also know that both teams place a higher value on Brown than on Taylor—so if Taylor is a part of this deal instead of Brown, that is considered a discount from the July offer.
 
The AP reported today that Happ, Brown and Joe Blanton took physicals in Philly today, but there were no other indications that those players were involved.
 
This information is all tentative and speculative because a deal has not yet been finalized. There are indications that an official announcement could come within the next day or two. Until that time, anything can happen.
 
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Toronto Blue Jays pitcher Roy Halladay and his agent have checked into a Philadelphia-area hotel, according to two Inquirer sources.
 
It is not known if a trade sending Halladay to the Phillies is imminent, but if Halladay and the Phils are negotiating--as is indicated by the pitcher's presence in Philadelphia--that would suggest that the Phils and Blue Jays are far enough along in talks for Halladay to discuss a potential contract extension with the Phils. Halladay has one year remaining on his contract before becoming a free agent.
 
The Phils have long been linked to Halladay, and were actively involved in trade talks last July, before the team acquired lefthander Cliff Lee from Cleveland.

UPDATE, 3:04--  The plot thickens: Foxsports.com has added that the Phils are in talks regading a potential three-team deal that would send lefthander Cliff Lee to an unnamed club.  This makes sense for a number of reasons:

--Lee is owed $9 million next year, and the Phils need to clear payroll to sign Halladay.

--Lee will be a free agent after this season, and if he tests the open market the Phils would find it difficult to re-sign him, given their already robust payroll.

--Acquiring Lee may net the Phils some of the prospects requried to complete a deal, without having to give up players like pitcher J.A. Happ and Kyle Drabek, outfielders Domonic Brown, Michael Taylor and Anthony Gose.

UPDATE, 5:03pm

Cliff Lee's agent, Darek Brauneker, says he has not heard anything from the Phillies, Blue Jays, Mariners or anyone else today.

Multiple reports--SI.com, I believe, was the first to confirm it--have Halladay and Lee involved in a three-way that would send Lee to Seattle. A bunch of other names are surfaced, but reports are conflicting--some have Domonic Brown going to Toronto, while others have it as Michael Taylor.  Pitcher Phillippe Aumont would reportedly be going to Toronto from Seattle.  It should be noted that none of this is confirmed.  We know that both the Jays and Phils liked Brown more than Taylor in July.

Brauneker has spoken with Lee today.  "He is obviously aware of the situation,' Braunker said.  "There must be something to it."

Brauneker, understandably, treaded carefully when asked if Lee was disappointed.  "He certainly enjoys being in Philadelphia.  There was not much for him not to enjoy."

The Phils and Lee engaged in preliminary talks about a contract extension last week.   "We had a positive dialogue," the agent said.  "All of the dialogue has been very positive on both sides."

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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:09 PM, 12/14/2009
    They're most likely gonna have to trade Lee to get this deal done which in the big picture means we're still not better than the Yankees. If we kept Lee I would be planning the parade already. Come on management step up the payroll just for this year!!!!
    EaglesFlyersPhilsSixers
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:09 PM, 12/14/2009
    Cannot trade Lee though. Need to have both to be the best or dont do it. Halladay, Lee and Hammels is what takes you in front of the line, not 2 out of 3.
    DaveMac
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:11 PM, 12/14/2009
    I have a feeling if we get halladay, lee is involved with the trade out for a few reasons: 1) the overall product is a slightly better Cy Young winner for a long-term deal rather than just next year. 2) with brown and drabek as untouchables we really don't have enough ammo for the a trade straight up 3) like every other sport, its a business -- salary cap room just does not magically appear. Trading Blanton will not give us the room to support 15 million a year consistently. My guess Lee goes to another team for prospects and we get use those with one near top prospect (Taylor?) for Halladay. But hey, if I'm wrong thats awesome! But do the math, just "having" Halladay and Lee does not add up to what we can afford. But if the trade gets done in the way I just listed its still a HUGE win for the phils.
    DBpefs100
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:11 PM, 12/14/2009
    if they get rid of lee, amaro would be making one of the dumbest moves of his early front office career.
    bruiser81
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:11 PM, 12/14/2009
    Getting rid of Lee for Halladay is POINTLESS ! Get rid of an Ace for another. WHY ? The whole point in getting Halladay would be to have Halladay, AND Lee !!!! We would be unstoppable !
    Will.i.Am
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:12 PM, 12/14/2009
    F the Eagles....this is how you win championships!!! Go Phillies!
    ArtieLange
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:13 PM, 12/14/2009
    Relax, I'm sure he's just here to try out for Wing Bowl
    loctastic
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:13 PM, 12/14/2009
    Check out mlb.com for more details, but the current chatter is a Lee for Halladay trade. Phils would keep most, if not all, current farm prospects and Happ. It is said that there is a third team in the deal. At first glance, and if this is true, it would seem like the Phil's will need to send something to that third team. I also imagine that Lee would need to sign an extension with Toronto.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:15 PM, 12/14/2009
    Why is there a new yorker following the Phils as a beat reporter? "previously wrote for the New York Daily News, where he covered baseball" is code for longtime Mets or Yankee fan. No offense to this dude, but couldnt we get someone from Temple or some other local school for the gig?
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:15 PM, 12/14/2009
    You have to keep Lee and Halladay that is the only way this would be really exciting. It would be exchanging one great pitcher for another. Six to one - Half a dozen to another...
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:16 PM, 12/14/2009
    Why would we lose Lee for Halladay? Makes no sense.
    CrazyIvan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:16 PM, 12/14/2009
    How does trading our best pitcher who was great for another great pitcher make us better? We didn't lose because of Lee last year, he won all of his playoff games, we lost because of the people behind him. It's kind of like Manning for Brady it's not an upgrade but a lateral movement.
    Nothing but the truth
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