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Halladay leaves after two innings

POSTED: Sunday, May 27, 2012, 3:18 PM

Is it time to panic about Roy Halladay’s sore right shoulder?
Yes. This is Negadelphia.
No. He is the rock of this franchise.
Maybe. I’m too nervous to decide.

ST. LOUIS -- What started as the most pleasant of series for the Phillies took a seriously wrong turn Sunday when Roy Halladay had to leave his start against the St. Louis Cardinals after just two innings.

The team announced in the fifth inning that he left as a precaution because of right shoulder soreness. He will be reevaluated in the next couple of days.

Halladay, 4-4 with a 3.58 ERA coming into the game, labored through the first inning, throwing 26 pitches and allowing his second grand slam of the month, placing the Phillies in a 4-0 hole. Yadier Molina hit the two-out grand slam after the Cardinals had loaded the bases on two singles and a walk to David Freese.

The grand slam came on a 92 m.p.h. fastball. Halladay returned in the second inning and retired the Cardinals in order on 10 pitches, but it was clear something was wrong when lefthander Joe Savery started warming in the bullpen as the Phillies hit in the top of the third inning.

Halladay's ERA now sits at 3.98, the highest it has been this late in a season since 2007 when he was with Toronto.



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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:18 PM, 05/27/2012
    Manuel said he is worried and concerned. Let's hope he is wrong like he usually is about injuries heck he is wrong about everything. Watching the Nats and Braves and listening to the guy who should be managing this team Terry Francona
    gates2012
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:48 PM, 05/27/2012
    OK, here's the part I don't get. At the top of the next inning, with Halladay still technically in the game, his turn at bat comes up with a runner on base. Manuel pinch hits for Halladay with Pete Orr and and Orr sacrifices the runner to 2nd. Huh?!!! Are you trying to tell me that Halladay couldn't have laid down a sacrifice bunt with a sore shoulder? And even if he couldn't, why would you waste a perfectly good bench player on a sacrifice when there are pitchers available to do it? Dumb, dumb, dumb and dumber managing. That move didn't cost the Phils the game but it was still stupid.
    TexColorado
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:02 PM, 05/27/2012
    @DonW.....I didn't go to Johns Hopkins but I did pitch for 23 years and I have rehabbed pitchers for 30, it's my profession. I myself have been where Doc is right now, it doesn't feel good at all. I pitched hardball til I was 48 yo when my shoulder did as his is now. It was more surgery or quit so I retired from the field. I've seen this in my patients too many times thru the years also.

    @Tex...I don't think Charles sent Orr up there to bunt. Orr saw the 3rd baseman playing deep and decided to lay one down on his own. He just neglected to push it a little further down the 3rd base line and it backfired on him. Charles was not pleased as his reaction in the dugout spoke volumes.
    Mark1npt
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:08 PM, 05/27/2012
    @Dudeskins....ty for the support.....I'm not trying to be a wise guy here as you know, only trying to give people here the benefit of my training and my own personal experience with these injuries. Again, for newbies on here who don't know me, or the same 5 yahoos with new screenames who just like to insult, there's nothing I can do but try to enlighten. Trading puts and calls I don't know squat, but the human body and pitching in particular, is my profession and my life.
    Mark1npt
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:22 AM, 05/28/2012
    Part of the game. According to Stan Conte, director of medical services for the Dodgers, approximately 50% of starting pitchers go on the disabled list every year (from Tom Verducci article 4/17). I assume that's why Rube has so many good ones and why guys who can generally stay healthy and pitch make so much money. Last year it was Blanton and Oswalt, but the three main guys all had career years- a rare happening that should have resulted in more wins.
    jtj06
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:47 AM, 05/28/2012
    Posted on other Halladay article...
    ...Bush is not a young guy, 32, 187 starts in major leagues - 4.70 ERA Career in AAA 14-15 3.97 ERA

    Elarton, 36, 170 starts in major leagues, 5.29 lifetime ERA

    Cloyd- 2012
    4 starts at Reading 1.80
    6 starts at Lehigh 2.15
    Cloyd, who was not ranked by the Daily News and the Inquirer among the organization's Top 25 prospects and was not protected in the Rule 5 draft last offseason

    Pretty sure Cloyd, the young dude with future upside will NOT be brought up. Would make the organization look bad for not noticing him.

    By the way, know who wasn't listed in the organization's top 20 midseason 2010 ... Vance Worley.

    Kinda sucks when someone succeeds big time, even though your top scouts didn't think much of him.

    zubzub
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:36 AM, 05/28/2012
    somebody put the maloik on the whole team.
    sammydelphia
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:54 AM, 05/28/2012
    To clear up any misunderstanding on the length of Doc's contract, according to Cot's, the contract is guaranteed through 2013. Doc needs to meet some criteria for the 2014 option to vest. Included in that is throwing a combined 415 innings between '21 and '13. That's not all, but the vesting option is related to 2012 only in that regard. An earlier poster said he was signed through 2014, which is not automatically true, and at least subject to being jeaopardized off yesterday's departure.
    KBland
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:58 AM, 05/28/2012
    I do not understand. The Phillies have attempted to retain their talent and spend the money brought in by the sold out CBP. If they let Howard and Utley (and Jimmy) walk rather than give them big contracts, we have an unhappy fan base. No American League team is paying $15 million for a DH with chronic knee condition. As someone pointed out, pitchers get hurt. There is no way around it. Have to feel lucky we have Kendrick and maybe Blanton stays. As for that Lee-Victorino confrontation? I felt great that our millionaires CARE about winning. as tough as this season has been, our team plays hard and they want to win. Here is to a great start for Hamels and 11 out of 16.
    tommazza
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:17 AM, 05/28/2012
    Caution is the word. I'd bet there isn't a pitcher in the big leagues that doesn't have a sore shoulder.
    Ron


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