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Game 3: The quest for runs

POSTED: Sunday, April 8, 2012, 10:22 AM
(Michael Bryant/Staff Photographer)

PITTSBURGH — And on the third game, Charlie Manuel sacrificed his defense for offense.

The manager will start Jim Thome and Juan Pierre for the first time Sunday as the Phillies attempt to win this series against the Pirates. He'll also put Ty Wigginton at third base.

His lineup:

1. Juan Pierre 7
2. Shane Victorino 8
3. Jimmy Rollins 6
4. Hunter Pence 9
5. Jim Thome 3
6. Ty Wigginton 5
7. Freddy Galvis 4
8. Brian Schneider 2
9. Vance Worley 1

Thome will play a major-league game at first base for the first time in 1,761 days. He showed he could handle the position on a limited basis during spring training, but Thome was rarely challenged. No one attempted to bunt up the first-base line. Expect one of the many speedy Pirates to try that.

He also did not play more than six innings at first during Grapefruit League play. So also expect a defensive replacement in the later innings.

Worley makes his first start of the season behind the worst defense the Phillies have used yet. If anything, this should be interesting.

Bonus: Thome last played first base for the Phillies on June 30, 2005. The lineup on that day is cringe-worthy:

1. Kenny Lofton 8
2. Endy Chavez 7
3. Bobby Abreu 9
4. Jim Thome 3
5. Jimmy Rollins 6
6. Chase Utley 4
7. Tomas Perez 5
8. Todd Pratt 2
9. Jon Lieber 1


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Comments  (15)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:25 AM, 04/08/2012
    Today's lineup looks like a AA team. Shutout by the Pirates!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    shawnmac
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:40 AM, 04/08/2012
    The GM put all his finances into a few contracts. His signings besides Pierre and POds made little sense. What would a Beltran look like in this line-up. This year will be frustrating. The following years will be devastating. Pitchers is great, but you must score runs. Clueless in GM office.
    wmontanez27
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:11 AM, 04/08/2012
    Both lineups look similar, starting at the leadoff spot, past their prime table setters we got a few years too late.
    EL Zorro
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:17 AM, 04/08/2012
    Its not the GM's fault your two best hitters who should be in their primes are injured. It transforms this whole team.
    ronin32
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:01 PM, 04/08/2012
    Both Utley and Howard are past their primes. Compare them to other greats at their ages and also note that the steep, downward trends in their statistics over the years. All of baseball mocked the Phillies for extending Howard so you can't pity Amaro for missing what everyone else saw coming.
    jtj06
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:07 PM, 04/08/2012
    Look up HOF second basemen Sandberg, Morgan, and Alomar and see what they did after age 33. They were mere shells of their former All-Star MVP candidate selves for the rest of their careers. Why would Utley, who has already been declining sharply for years, be expected to be able to turn that trend around in the twilight of his career?
    jtj06
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:26 AM, 04/08/2012
    Nobody seems to remember Lofton hit 335 that year...
    Knowledge King
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:44 AM, 04/08/2012
    Because Thome's strikeout last night weas so special....it looked worst than a Ryan Howard strikeout...look at the perfect pitches and miss the garbage pitches by 2 feet.
    kelprod2
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:22 PM, 04/08/2012
    I wouldn't expect runs consistently from any lineup. Just put them out there and hope for the best. Jim Thome's a great guy but I wouldn't expect a whole lot. More of a p.r. move to distract fans from the problems and the hapless performance in last year's NLDS.
    AvoidSundanceVacations
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:43 PM, 04/08/2012
    I knew when they brought in fat joe, the game was over. I was at the bar and told everyone that, they gave me dirty looks at first, then they seen what i was tellin them. You gotta score four to five runs to win when fat joe pitches......and that you can bank on!
    huntnmike3666
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:44 PM, 04/08/2012
    Agree the Thome signing was a PR move. (BTW, the day after they signed him, the raised ticket prices.) They already used him the other day in a event before one of the exhibition games against the Pirates at CBP. A lot of fans pay to spend time with him for an hour or so.
    EL Zorro
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:19 PM, 04/08/2012
    Ronin, you are unfortunately wrong about the injuries not being an organizational fault, as we have known about Utley's chronic knee condition for some time and failed to do anything significant. Could have either signed a 2B, or better yet, moved Polly to 2B and acquired or brought up someone who could play 3B. Wigginton is not capable of playing 3B with any kind of proficiency.
    Bobby G
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:34 PM, 04/08/2012
    Thank God the coach's kids get to play today. I know Charlie has been dying to get his boys in there. Shame for Mayberry that he is doomed to being mismanaged this year and we will never know if he is a long term solution.
    Scope33
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:12 PM, 04/08/2012
    the thome experiment should end NOW! nice guy etc put mayberry jr in and hope for the best they need a bat after pence.....mayberry and ruiz not terrible for two of the bottom four.....
    malco49
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:58 PM, 04/08/2012
    That 2005 line up looks alot better than today's.
    jtj06


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