Game 130: There is Cloyd, but no Brown
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Game 130: There is Cloyd, but no Brown
Matt Gelb, Inquirer Staff Writer
Tyler Cloyd will make his major-league debut Wednesday but he will do so without Domonic Brown behind him.
Brown is out of the Phillies lineup after aggravating a left knee injury Tuesday. Brown insisted after the game he was not injured and only removed because trainers saw him hobbling. Manager Charlie Manuel said Brown indicated he wasn't feeling right.
Whatever the case, Brown is not starting for the third time in four games.
The lineup against Mets rookie Matt Harvey:
1. Jimmy Rollins 6
2. Juan Pierre 7
3. Chase Utley 4
4. Ryan Howard 3
5. John Mayberry Jr. 8
6. Laynce Nix 9
7. Kevin Frandsen 5
8. Erik Kratz 2
9. Tyler Cloyd 1
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I could be wrong, but I saw a brief conversation last night where Charlie was emphatic about what he was saying and Brown didn't look too happy. Charlie pointed to Juan Pierre, who was leaning to the railing. Brown is hitless in his last 11 AB, including 2 AB he had with the bases loaded hitting into a DP and a force in the 15th inning game last week won by Mayberry's single, and at times looks like he doesn't hustle, like the play last night that it took him forever to get to the ball. Maybe that has something to do with the benching today and not his knees.— EL Zorro- I too noticed the exchanges, and wonder why the media continues to coddle DB...looking forward to you next duel with Ed Gein (just kidding), and wished the brass would come to a conclusion of a strict platoon with DB and Mayberry for 2013, as they're both still cheap and incomplete, in my book...Why Matt Gelb continues to stroke Nate Shierholtz as a potential starter in 2013 also baffles, as he's purely a serviceable 4rth/5th outfielder. — bearsfriend
- Brown looked like he was hurt in the Washington series, he should be truthful and not lie about being injured.....ask Halladay that one!!!
— huntnmike3666 - El Zorro, he did the same thing in the Washington game, he lolly gagged to get the ball and i was like, really dude! Then i saw him limp back to his position before they took the cameras off him. Trust me, hes hurt and probably saying to himself, why me, cant i catch a break! I was not liking him, but as of lately, i kinda feel sorry for him!!!— huntnmike3666
- I posted this in another article, that was a cya limp after he loafed after the ball. He wasn't limping when he was going to the ball, that was a made up limp after he allowed the run to score.— mjc1
- brilliant. so good you can tell when a guy is really hurt and when it is cya. did you use the magic 8-ball to figure that out? — wobblie
- Just so we all know, with Dom Brown, what you see is what you get. He is an over-rated, over-touted 5-tool (really only 2 tools) player that the Phillies overplayed instead of trading him. Again, its up to him to either put up or become the Phillies version of Brandon Wood (see Angels can't miss short stop prospect who they refused to trade until they had to release him).— drhoffman
- Bear, agree on the Brown/Mayberry platoon until one of them seizes the moment like Werth did in '08. Mayberry looks a lot better lately with regular playing time, like he did in the 2nd half last year. Agree on Schierholtz also. huntmike3666, I have seen some plays that he could have made and just didn't go after the ball aggressively. Sometimes it looks like he's shagging balls during batting practice. It could be that he doesn't want to mess up, lack of confidence (I don't blame him under this coaching staff) or that he's hurt. Or a combination of all of the above.— EL Zorro
- I personally think a whole lot of outfielders are going to get moved in the fall. I think they are losing patience with JM and DB especially if CManuel continues to manage in his last year which is almost a certainty with Sandberg taking over third.
Just can't imagine, despite what has been seen of DomB that you see what you are going to get that the upside is not much higher than what we see. Is there more power? Is he not going to have the lazy days along with the pants on fire days? Rollo showed the same thing coming up but played with more intensity. Mayberry just has too many holes. Could be a platoon to no one;s satisfaction.
I see about half this roster gone this winter.— 24sDad - It's a judgement from the cheap seats, but Dom Brown looks to lack the toughness needed to stick. He's gone a long way on potential ascribed to him, but now he's got to go out there and be the real mccoy, and he just doesn't seem to be up to it mentally. His 23 yr old knees may be bothering him, but a lot of big league players are hobbled -- yet they understand that the last thing you do is show weakness in a game where someone's always hungry behind you. This guy just doesn't get it and I will guarantee you that Manuel is attempting to clue him in. If you're on the field you better be out there to go hard.— auntesther
- I agree that a Brown/Mayberry platoon may be the way to go next season until one of them hopefully steps up. Plus it would bring back fond memories of the Joe Lefebvre/Sixto Lezcano days.— Snake Pliskin
- Dom was injured in AAA, then was brought up to Philly. He played 23 games straight and injured or re-injured it. He may be afraid to hurt it anymore than it is. Seems like he a candidate for an off season conditioning program.
— Barneyboy - It is time for everyone to admit that Dom Brown was overhyped from the "Get-go" and now he is an albatross around the collective neck of Amaro and Manuel. Nobody wants him. It is a shame because he seems like a nice guy.— Phillip Phan
- DB is a non hustling loafer and will be out of MLB when the phils tire of him— stayoutofphilly
- Brown needs a change of scenery at this point. Shame, cause on the surface he looks like he could have a solid future as a 20-25 HR guy. I'm still impressed by the fact that he isn't hacking at everything that is thrown his way. He has shown a surprising amount of patience and this goes back to when he was up in 2011.— ESFjellin
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