Posted: Thursday, August 14, 2008, 2:43 AM | 254 comments |
 
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Jimmy Rollins called Phillies fans frontrunners last night on Best Damn Sports Show Period.

Yeah, Phillies fans kind of took offense to that.

“They’re frontrunners,” Rollins said. “When you’re doing good, they’re on your side. When you’re doing bad, they’re completely against you. For example, Ryan (Howard) is from St. Louis. St. Louis, it seems like they support their team. They’re encouraging.”

It's an interesting topic, and I actually see both sides because I'm one of the few people who interacts with both parties.

First, Phillies fans have every right to boo. They've been through hell (and whatever sub-level and sub-sub-level there is to hell). They've witnessed one world championship in 125 years. They've seen years of bad baseball, bad trades and bad decisions. But they still pack the ballpark. They still watch on TV. They still buy jerseys, foam fingers and Phillies Christmas ornaments. They still fly to Clearwater, Fla., every spring. They still fly to balllparks across the country to watch their team play. They still support a team that has lost more games than any other team in professional sports history. But they're fans, and fans get emotional. They're not booing because they want the Phillies to fail. They're booing because they very, very badly want the Phillies to be what they always hope they can be.

It's just that most players don't see it that way. They're not from here. They weren't around for 1964. They weren't around for Black Friday or Game 6 in Toronto. They don't care about Ed Wade's inactivity at the trade deadline or busts like Andy Ashby and Lance Parrish or Bill Giles calling Philadelphia a small market team. They weren't around for those things. They don't know about those things. They don't care about those things. They're just trying to win today. They just know that their fans are booing Pat Burrell and Mike Lieberthal during Opening Day introductions in 2006. They just know they're booing Ryan Howard, who leads the league in home runs and RBIs and won NL MVP honors two years ago. They just know they're booing Tom Gordon before he throws a pitch. They just know they're in first place in the National League East, and they're getting booed at home even when they're winning.

They hear those boos and they're like, "What the hell?"

Fans hear Rollins' remarks and they're like, "What the hell?"

Ironically, Rollins is one of the players least affected by the boos. Other players wilt in Philadelphia. Rollins hasn't wilted one bit. But yesterday's uproar -- hey, I'm in LA, I only know it's a "big deal" because everybody back home tells me it's a big deal -- only illustrated the differences between fans who grew up in Philadelphia and the players who grew up elsewhere but play here.

I don't see those differences changing anytime soon.

Posted by Todd Zolecki @ 2:43 AM  Permalink | 254 comments
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:47 AM, 08/14/2008
    I'm sure so many of us have sarcastic comments to make concerning Mr. Rollins comments, but I think Todd nailed it (except for the booed at home, even though they are winning..the way they have played at home the last month and a half deserves boo's). Players don't get it, never have, never will. But I am sure of one thing, he thinks he has heard booing, wait until he gets home. Looks like he wants out so see ya Jimmy. I'm sure Amaro or Arbuckle will get some washed up, non performing player in return.
    jimmymack
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:56 AM, 08/14/2008
    Sorry but i will state it again, i never liked j-roll. Always thought he was whinny, boo-hoo i make 8mil a year and the people who make 40k a year and come out and see me go 0-4 boo. Get over it ya cry baby!!! He wants a new contract so trade him to someone and let bruntlett play.
    mondonj
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:29 AM, 08/14/2008
    jrol is absolutely right that philly fans are front runners, but its the same in several other cities as well. fans boo when players are doing poorly, they cheer when they are doin well- if you disagree with that assessment of phillies fans, I don't know what you hear when you go to the ballpark. rollins is never going to have a repeat of his mvp season, he is just an above average hitting shortstop- there's no reason to get rid of him though, unless someone better shows up on the market.
    arrivaderci656
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:56 AM, 08/14/2008
    I never boo when it's not warranted. I hate booing for no reason, but sometimes the players have to understand that the fans get frustrated. When someone k's with the bases loaded, it's frustrating! We don't hate players (well, most) but I think it's right to boo a lack of effort. Maybe we would be more like Cardinals' fans if we had double-digit world championships. I do think that sometimes people in this town can be unreasonable, but they're usually the idiot types to begin with. The funny thing is, J-Roll would seem to be the guy that doesn't get that treatment.
    giamatt
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:11 AM, 08/14/2008
    I'm not sure exactly what is behind Jimmy's comments. He's really gotten treated very well in this town on the whole. So to come out with this statement now seems to me to be a conscious attempt to stir things up. Why do that? I can only think that it's to try and get the wheels in motion for a trade, which could eventually lead to a new contract. Hard to believe that winning the MVP may have been the worst thing for this guy. He was a lot better when he was trying to prove himself.
    bobby
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:17 AM, 08/14/2008
    Most professional-level athletes are coddled from the day they step into high school. They're constantly being told how good they are by teammates, coaches, family, friends, teachers, college recruiters, and the media. For some, it stunts their sense of self, and when they're finally booed after "making it," it affects them very deeply. When you've been told every day for a decade that you're a star, how can the case possibly be otherwise? Fans must be wrong.
    sixtoe
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:40 AM, 08/14/2008
    Well the way this west coast trip is going, the fans won't be front runners for long.... so let's see if the fans still fill the ballpark when the Phils fall from 1st this week.
    mike c
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:56 AM, 08/14/2008
    There was a time when you took the subway to go to the game you may see one of the players on the subway with you. Now it's too much the othere way. Not all but most athletes today are spoiled brats that need every one around them to kiss their behinds including their superiors.
    unknownblogger
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:58 AM, 08/14/2008
    Hey Jimmy. How about running everything out and showing up on time and being a leader instead of a whiner for $8M a year. How about changing the "Everything is OK, we'll get started tomorrow" attitude I continually hear on almost every interview with you and Shane and Ryan. How about Ryan Howard stop waving at pitches and become a real hitter and maybe make a sharp play at frst base once in a while? ow about that?
    AugustWest
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:01 AM, 08/14/2008
    Whaaaa whaaaa whaaaaa.......CLASSIC overpaid whining athlete rhetoric......JROLL....next time you ground out with the tying run on second I'll stand up and applaud. Maybe I'll stand up and applaud next time you're late to the ball park cause "there were too many red lights." Maybe I'll stand up and applaud as you saunter down first cause you popped out again. JROLL......next time I applaud for you will be when we have a new shortstop who isn't an A$$..................... TIME TO SET UP THE PHILLIES TEE TIMES FOR OCTOBER. THIS SHIP AIN'T GOING ANYWHERE
    jibberjabber
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:02 AM, 08/14/2008
    mike c: the club's advance ticket sale for the remaining games is so strong that I doubt we'll see a drop off in attendance. Bad news for Jimmy is if the town turns on him, he will really hear it for the rest of the year. If they tank, then all the players can blame us for no support and being front runners. Of course it will have nothing to do with the way they are playing. Curious to see if Monty & Co. will step up to fans defense or ignore it.
    jimmymack
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:05 AM, 08/14/2008
    you couldnt have put that any better Todd. like you said, i can see where jimmy is coming from but i still dont think he should have said that. im not even close to a front runner but i still see his comment as a direct slap to the face of every fan who supports the Phils game in and game out no matter what.
    davemarsh
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:09 AM, 08/14/2008
    UH-OH is this the beginning of the I just can't play there with those fans, ( I'm too good for this market ), I wanna be traded train ? Well your right Jimmy we don't think tour as wonderful as you do and we never will.
    wmiami
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:10 AM, 08/14/2008
    jroll is absolutely right. the people who are getting mad by his comments are probably the ones who he is directing them too. if your not one to boo your philly team than don't take offense to his comments. he's just generalizing. it pains me that philly sports fans are like this because i am one true and true. i'm born and raised in the philly area for 32 years and i'm a diehard fan but i'm smart enough to know that in general, we suck as fans. we hate on our team and they're coaches and players when they're bad and we love them when they're good. look at all the people posting comments here about jroll himself. this man is the reigning NL mvp and he's being hated on. now you all watch him get hot these last few months and lead us to the playoffs and everyone will be back on the jroll bandwagon. he's our most important player and we need him. give the man some support.
    sptost


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