Posted: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 11:29 PM | 12 comments |
 
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Tim Wakefield: Not a popular man in Philadelphia right now.

NEW YORK -- On his way to the ballpark Tuesday, R.A Dickey called Tim Wakefield. The knuckleball fraternity is small in baseball. And with two of the remaining flutterball pitchers facing the same team in back-to-back games, Dickey sought some advice.

After all, Wakefield had shut out the Phillies for eight innings Sunday. And Dickey, the Mets righthander, asked Wakefield what his approach was.

"His only advice to me was that they were a free-swinging team, and I found that to be the case," Dickey said.

Ouch.

"They didn’t like to get very deep in counts," he continued. "They were swinging early in counts, and I thought I did a good job of proving I could throw it for strikes early in counts."

Dickey allowed seven hits and walked three over six innings. But he struck out seven -- tying a career high he last accomplished six years ago.

If there was any doubt the Phillies were in an offensive slump, well, we can put that to rest. Phillies manager Charlie Manuel refused to say facing two knuckleballers in a row contributed to the team's problems.

First baseman Ryan Howard thought otherwise.

"You’re used to seeing guys who have everyday stuff like a John Lackey," Howard said, referring to the last opposing starter the Phillies defeated. "But it’s very rare you see a guy who throws a knuckleball. We’ve seen two guys who throw one back to back. That’s even rarer. It’s kind of like a Halley’s Comet kind of deal."

True. The Phillies hadn't faced knuckleballers in back-to-back games since 1983.

And it also didn't help that the Boston and New York knucklers conspired together against the Phillies.

Dickey said his approach couldn't differ too much from Wakefield's. The Phillies knew they were going to see knuckleballs. Wakefield simply provided a few tips.

"He was telling me a couple fastball locations to some guys that he got some flyouts on," Dickey said. "But outside of that, it’s really just trusting that you have what it takes to execute when you need to execute. He reminded me of that, and it’s always encouraging."

Posted by Matt Gelb @ 11:29 PM  Permalink | 12 comments
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:06 AM, 05/26/2010
    As long as we don't see these clowns anymore then we will be fine hitting fastball pitchers.
    Joe WS
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:22 AM, 05/26/2010
    they can call each other in October too when they are not playing and the Phillies are.
    Mike977
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:31 AM, 05/26/2010
    Sign Wilber Wood
    mick314
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:45 AM, 05/26/2010
    Maybe it has more to do with the Phils playing someone else than the nationals and running out their own clowns like Moyer
    morrisrh
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:22 AM, 05/26/2010
    This was another embarrassing lost. Not only this journeyman pitcher fooled the whole lineup, but also a manager who was supposedly in the hot seat showed Charlie how to win a ballgame with baseball fundamentals.
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:30 AM, 05/26/2010
    If the Phillies want advice from an unathletic keyboard jockey, I'd say take the first 3 pitches against a knuckler and they're guaranteed to at least be ahead in the count. But no.
    PostMoreThan10Comments, GetCensored
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:58 AM, 05/26/2010
    Things have turned ugly since PHILLY10 disappeared. Doc, can you find out where your nemisis is ?
    mick314
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:06 AM, 05/26/2010
    Did anyone notice in the beginning of the year the Phils were patient hitters and scored alot of runs, not to mention they got to the bullpens early. What happened? I can't believe they hit and slump together.
    EarlKeese
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:51 AM, 05/26/2010
    we need more knuckle ballers to face the phils every team should have two
    tobyjoe
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:17 PM, 05/26/2010
    Poor ,Cholly, too stupid to send up Pujols and A'Rod.
    johnny eagle
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:37 PM, 05/26/2010
    Cholly's a good manager overall but there's surely a disconnect when denying knuckleballers aren't a problem. Much of the offensive swoon falls on Manual and Milt Thompson for being unprepared to deal with the unfamiliarity of knuckleballers and pitchers with unusual windups (Matsuzaka). Why else are Wakefield and Dickey otherwise mediocre pitchers?


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