Charlie explains his anger
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Charlie explains his anger
Matt Gelb, Inquirer Staff Writer
MIAMI GARDENS, Fla. -- Of course it ended this way at Sun Life Stadium. Charlie Manuel was fired up enough afterward, so I'll let his words explain it all...
What did Joe explain on why he went to replay?
He said… I thought that what I saw was they wanted to review it, they called it in play for a double. I thought they wanted to review it to see if it was a home run. That’s what I thought. I don’t know. At the same time I was arguing because if they wanted to see if it was for a defensive play, I didn’t think you could do that. My understanding is that’s not the rule. Even if you go look for a home run or a double, even if you see a defensive play doesn’t come into play there, I don’t think. That was my argument.
Did you ask for a replay?
No. I didn’t ask for it. I went out there when McKeon was arguing with the umpire. I was just going to wait bc I wanted to talk to him. I did not ask, they didn’t ask me, I didn’t ask for that.
So Jack asked?
I don’t know why else they’d replay it unless Jack asked for interference. I don’t know. You’d have to ask Jack and them that, I wasn’t involved in that
Did you file the protest?
[Pete Mackanin] had to go tell them because I was already thrown out of the game. You can’t review a defensive play, that’s my understanding. I didn’t ask for any replay for a double or a home run. The umpire called it a double, he signaled two bases. Once he signaled two bases, then McKeon went on the field. You’d have to ask him what he wanted. Once they reviewed the play… all of a sudden they put the defensive part in there. As I understand the rule, you can review to see if it was a home run, if it went out of the park, but you cannot be reviewing a defensive play. That’s how I understand the rule. I don’t know how they interpret it, but that’s my understanding. I could be wrong. I don’t know.
Did Petersen have a chance to catch the ball?
I think… I saw the replay and if you go look, the fielder is running. It looked kind of to me like the guy was standing there… he was real close to him. At the same time, even if you call interference, it means the fan had to interfere with him. And you assume that he’s going to make the catch. But if you go look at it, the guy was trying to catch the ball, the right fielder, he jumped and… I used to be an outfielder: when you run and you jump and you hit the fence, a lot of time you’ll miss the ball. And they assumed - just like everything else in this game anymore – they assumed that he was going to catch the ball. That’s what I saw.
Why would Jack want a HR review?
Exactly. Exactly. I don’t think he’s going to ask them to review a double into a home run.
Watch game from office?
I watched the game from (the clubhouse). This TV don’t work.
Did the delay affect Halladay?
It might have affected him. It was eight or 12 minutes. I know I’m not supposed to question review plays, but I wasn’t questioning the review play. I was questioning the interpretation of the rule about the defense. That’s why he threw me out because I wasn’t supposed to be arguing, but I wasn’t contesting the review. I was contesting the rule.
Will you come back to play again?
If it takes the loss away, we’ll come back. Our priority is to win the game. But there again, I’d like to know what grants (Joe West) a review of a defensive play. At that time, I didn’t get a chance to ask him a lot of things because he didn’t want to talk to me really. He absolutely didn’t want to talk to me, and he used the thing where you can’t question a review play.
They assumed he was going to catch the ball and assuming is not how it’s played. Because when he’s moving and you hit the fence and stuff, a lot of times it jars you and you’re going to miss the ball. They just thought, being as that guy’s being there, that’s interference. I’ll argue that with you too. I played there 20 years. Yessirree. At the least we should’ve got a double out of it. At the least. Any way you want to cut it.
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Comments (95)
Joe West is Jabba the Hut, laying on his throne licking his lipss and making outrageous calls.— Cheesedog- It was the correct call. It would have been an out had the idiot Phillies fan not interfered. Charlie is an idiot too for complaining. It was never going out of the park. The replay shows it's below the wall. BTW, I'm not a Marlins fans so before you counter with some little girlie remarks about my team, don't bother nitwit. — taxmanndumbeth
- And wonderboy Utley was 0 for 7 and cant bunt. What a year he's having.— gluteman
- And that has what to do with the idiotic ump decision? — Watching and Waiting
- Utley has been a liability in the field for a while. Now he's a black hole at the plate. But don't dare criticize him.— JLH
Comment removed.- ohh let the utley hate flow.. it was all his fault.— mph161
- Utley's inability to move Martinez to third after his double in extra innings was one of the most glaring examples of his downward spiral. Inexecusable regardless of his 0-7 horse collar.
- Joe West made up new rules today on the fly (literally and figuratively). He should be suspended.— TripleOption
- Looks like Utley needs whatever Bartolo Colon had last of season.— bobcitydoc
- Cowboy Joe West thought the meager crowd in attendance came to watch him umpire the game and wanted to give 'em their money's worth..— ijj
- Joe West is saying Charlie wanted to see if it was an HR. What a fraud.
Charlie did not speak to West until AFTER the replay.— Manny Trillo - Don't any of you understand? It was all Obama's fault.— Taxes
- Joe West is an embarrassment to the game. I don't see how MLB hasn't set him out to pasture. He seems to think he's bigger than the game itself. That's what makes it so easy to dislike him.— microfud
- The two fans are an embarrassment to all Phillies fans. Keep your hands away and the Phillies win the game. What a couple of complete dopes. The comments from those two prove how stupid they are! And yes, Joe West should have been fired years ago! — fred13
- Don't unravel folks the Phillies need our support more than ever starting with atlanta then the brewers so lets get behind our FIGHTIN PHLS— chesterfield
- If the fan who interfered had a Marlins cap instead of a Phillies cap, interference never would have been called.— SteveS11
- Before I buy tickets to any baseball game, I find out if Joe West is working them..... you know, because I only go to the games to watch him do his job.....
end sarcasm— joeolive - Charlie is right....it is time to end the stupidity....in other words, FIRE CHRIS WHEELER TONIGHT!!!! That squirrel headed dork is totally out of control with his "I know everything despite never playing even wiffle ball" yakking. FIRE CHRIS WHEELER TONIGHT!!!— kelprod2
- Can someone cite for me the rule reference regarding Instant Replay that you all are relying on. Rule 3.16 is clear, West got the call right.— tooly
- hey stupid, you can't use instant replay for this type of play. please go back to your mom's basement — your_mom_says_hi!
- So you and West are wrong! The rule, as stated in the TV yesterday, says a review can only be to decide if a ball is a home run or not; it doesn't involve any calls about interference or anything else defensively. You nickname is right on! Tooly fits you to a tee, you clown! — erniebanks14
- How about they all get their heads in the game. They played back to back lousy games. They are not hitting and the BP is a mess. Tough week coming up. Let's see what they are made of!— Ssteve115
- The call was correct. The problem is that the Phillies broadcasters are ignorant when it comes to the rulebook. Larry Anderson should be told to lay off the umpires or be gone.— cybersport
- steve, marlins fans don't go to the games.
tooly, the umps didn't call interference until after the replay. and replay is only suppose to be used on HR calls.— palmyra21 - The rule states that Instant Replay can only be used to evaluate home run calls. In this case, there was no home run. The on-field ruling was a double, with no interference identified. By the rules, you can't use Instant Replay to evaluate if a called double had interference associated with it, only potential home runs.— Bobphxville
- @texas: you are correct - t was obama's fault - the philly fan pulled back at the last minute as he didnt want to pay taxes on the ball he caught.— quagmire
- Was Ackerman there?— bjps1353
- Kelprod2 Right On... People here in NY complain about the radio team of John Sterling and Susan Waldman and their studied inanity but having to listen to Wheeler is brutal... Wheels explains every play as if space aliens are watching who have never seen the game before. I am thrilled when Sarge rolls in for the 3 inning cameo and he is pedestrian at best. Phils need a 3 man booth maybe? Works brilliantly for the Mets with Cohen, Darling and Hernandez. Just imagine someone else talented in the booth with Wheels... it would immediately point out what a snarky nebbish he is.
FIRE CHRIS WHEELER NOW!!!— pontius palate - Tooly, they're talking about the replay rule, not the interference rule. I'll say it. I have no problem with Wheels. He's fine. People need to complain about everyone and anything they can to justify their misery.— HandNik
- This game disgusted me, the fans disgusted me, Joe West disgusted me, the Phils inability to hit the ball disgusted me. They really need to get themselves back on track. I don't care that they have the best record in baseball, they can't play like this at this point in the season. I hope Charlie gives everyone on the team an earful.— JohnnyH
- I wonder what would've happened if this was Boston-NYYankee game in the ALCS and they ruled that. You think we wouldn't have replay on every play.— skolman
- West is an egomaniac. I would LOVE if MLB overturns him. But I doubt that will happen.
Keprod, take your unrelated venom somewhere else.— VicM - THE PHILLIES ARE AN EPIC FAILURE, THE 2011 DREAM TEAM
WILL CHOKE ONCE AGAIN THIS YEAR. THE PHILS WILL BE OUT
AFTER THE FIRST ROUND OF THE PLAYOFFS!— phillyfanboy - BTW ESPN's article on this is a bunch of BS. They are claiming that Charlie asked for the review and as you can see in this article he does not ask for a review. Also, you can't review a play in the field. Period. It was not a homerun, it's a ground ruled double either way.— Yatzee!
- JUST LIKE OBAMA DID TO WIN, I AM BLAMING BUSH TOO.— sevillano
- Lost in the craziness was Charlie playing with a short bullpen - he has got burned several times this year.
Lack of timely hits was their downfall again today. They seem to go into these funks even with Hunter Pence. Notice nobody is afraid to pitch to Ibanez or Gload with the game on the line and a righthander on the mound. Do you think they are telling us something?
I won't go into the albatross Howard is going to be around our necks until 2016. Double the blunder the Giants made with Rowand.
Notice the Phillies pitchers are scared to death to throw stikes when somebody is attempting to bunt - how many time have the ended up walking the batter anyhow. This runs right down the starting pitching and their bullpen. Total panic seems to take over as soon a player on the other team squares around to bunt. They need to address this problem before the playoffs.
Bourn, Nigers Morgan,Grady Anderson, Andrus and a host of Diamonbacks ans Red Sox will steal a World Series from the Phillies if they continue their panicky ways.
Equally frustrating is how little running and bunting the Phillies are employing this last month. Victorino does'nt even leave first base anymore.— candidly - The Phillies are overworking BASTARDO, their only lefty in the bullpen, because for whatever reason they designated JC ROMERO for assignment and JC is playing for the ROCKIES where he has already won a game for them. — sevillano
- The Phillies are overworking BASTARDO, their only lefty in the bullpen, because for whatever reason they designated JC ROMERO for assignment and JC is playing for the ROCKIES where he has already won a game for them. — sevillano
- The lack of steals by the Phillies, can be attributed to the significant increase of steals by the Dodgers.
— Phiggles - I am in the process of developing an app that eliminates stupidity and ignorance from commenting on blogs. If it were ready, there would only be 5 posts tonight.
1) Joe West blew the call. He knows it. Hopefully Bud Selig and MLB will fix this awful misinterpretation and implementation of a rule only reserved for HOME RUNS.
2) That was only the Phillies 5th lost series since June according to my calculation...and they counter that with having won/swept all 7 or 8 of their 4 game series. 162 games. Take it easy.
3) Utley? Really? You realize that as of September 5, 2011, from top to bottom this is the best Phillies team in franchise history. BEST IN HISTORY. We all have the privilege of watching the best team in 2 generations!
RELAX
— mckenziep2 - THE PHIILY FANS ARE OBNOXIOUS EVERYWHERE THEY GO. THEY INTENTIONALLY INTERFERED WITH THE OUTFIELDER DOING HIS JOB AND JOE WEST GOT IT RIGHT AND ANY PHILLIES FANS THAT DO THE SAME SHOULD BE BANNED FROM ALL BASEBALL STADIUMS EXCEPT THEIR OWN. — sevillano
- pal you dont know obnoxious until you've seen Yankees and Red Sox fans visiting. The Phillies fans are too new at this to rise to the level of obnoxious — surfbear
- Joe West should have never been reinstated. Eric Gregg was not allowed back. West has been an arrogant obnoxious pain for years.— MooseBreathMints
- "Joe West blew the call. He knows it. Hopefully Bud Selig and MLB will fix this awful misinterpretation and implementation of a rule only reserved for HOME RUNS." Bug Selig is part of the problem of baseball. He does not have enough courage, and guts to over rule the umpires union.— MooseBreathMints
- THE PHIILY FANS ARE OBNOXIOUS EVERYWHERE THEY GO. THEY INTENTIONALLY INTERFERED WITH THE OUTFIELDER DOING HIS JOB AND JOE WEST GOT IT RIGHT AND ANY PHILLIES FANS THAT DO THE SAME SHOULD BE BANNED FROM ALL BASEBALL STADIUMS EXCEPT THEIR OWN.— sevillano
- THE PHIILY FANS ARE OBNOXIOUS EVERYWHERE THEY GO. THEY INTENTIONALLY INTERFERED WITH THE OUTFIELDER DOING HIS JOB AND JOE WEST GOT IT RIGHT AND ANY PHILLIES FANS THAT DO THE SAME SHOULD BE BANNED FROM ALL BASEBALL STADIUMS EXCEPT THEIR OWN.— sevillano
- sevillano: It's amazing that you could spare the time from what you do late at night to the family cat to impart your wisdom to us, again and again— Claudio Vernight
- @tooly & cybersport:
The issue is not whether the fan interfered with the ball; from my perspective the umpires had clear grounds, from viewing the videotape, to conclude that he did. The issue is whether the umpires are permitted to view the videotape to make that determination. Remember back last year when a pitcher lost a perfect game to a blatantly blown call by an umpire? The rules said that such a decision is not subject to review or appeal. Since "instant replay" (I am not sure what its official name is) is not yet part of the permanent rules of baseball, there is no formal reference like rule 3.16 for fan interference. Here is the link to an article that discusses the rule. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2009-08-26-mlb-replay_N.htm
Issue # 1 - did anybody ask for a review to see if it was a home run? West said yes, but Charlie says no. I'd take Charlie's word over West's any day, but it's possible there was some miscommunication (especially with Charlie) and West thought that Charlie did call for it, even if Charlie hadn't. An umpire can also ask on his own. We don't know if this was done.
#2 - and by far the more important. Even if the umpires could legitimately look at the videotape, are they permitted to make a ruling on anything but home run or not a home run? I think not, but it's not 100% clear. Consider this hypothetical. While reviewing a videotape to see if a ball went fair or foul into the stands, the umpire notices that the batter missed tagging 1st base. The opposing manager has appealed on that issue, but no umpire was watching. If the ball was ruled fair, could they use that video review to call the batter out? And if you say "no," what is the difference between that and the interference call in today's game?— judas_priest - For #1- Charlie didn't talk to West until AFTER West reviewed the replay.
For #2- Only HR rulings are allowed to reviewed for replay. West's "we take all information about the play" is a bunch of BS.
It was interference, it wasn't called, and then the review reversed the call against the rules.— verve - The league always sides with the umpires so they don't look bad. I'll be very surprised if they go against the call. This is the same league that sided with the umpire who called a guy safe (clearly out) 2 feet in front of him when the A's played the Yankees in the playoffs 2 years ago. Bullsheet and blind as bats...and now they make up the rules as they go along.— Kanayd
- Blown call aside, we still left 11 runners stranded. That needs to be worked on immediately or it'll be rough playing against the Braves and Brewers. We needed to bury the Marlins and other teams below .500 and we aren't. More hitting practice please.— Kanayd
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- West is wrong and can't write the rules as you go along. If you want to use replay for fan interference, fine. Then change the rules. Another classic example of Selig and Torre sticking their heads in the sand and not keeping up with the times. Once again, MLB is going to sit back, like they did with the steroid issue and wait for catastrophic events to happen before they do something. In the meantime, Joe West is home enjoying his dinner waiting for his paycheck.
- WEST LIES, NOTHING NEW. UTLEY NEEDS A WEEK OFF, NOTHING NEW. CHOLLIE WON'T SIT UTLEY DOWN BECAUSE HE'S UTLEY, NOTHING NEW.— DONDEN31
- This loss belongs to Ruben Amaro for refusing to call up players from the minors. Utley clearly needs a break and the pitchers are getting burned out. For what? The Ruben doesn't want to pay the travel costs for more players? Or is it he's more interested in winning a Minor League championship than the World Series?— FMARK
- Hahaha, Wheeler, That squirrel headed dork, priceless kelprod2. I thought you were going to say the third most famous groundhog in Pennsylvania.— EL Zorro
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- Does anyone really think tired,old Cholly remembers what he said to Cowboy Joe? Cholly is a pathological liar who makes things up as he goes along.— Wilhelm Von Humboldt
- Manual said he never asked to review play to see if it was a homerun, so the instant replay should never have been used. It clearly was interference, the phillies clearly had no energy, and relief pitching
continues to frustrate and blow leads lately. We're still up by 7 1/2 games but I remember when the mets were up by 7 a fews years ago.
Focus needs to be solely on Braves and Brewers. Let's go Phils!!— mikedi08 - delania, I don't think Kelprod2 said Wheels doesn't know the game. You guess that after being with the Phillies since 1971 (he was hired as the Publicity and PR Director) and picking the brains of players, coaches, managers, scouts and fellow announcers and by watching so many games, he should know a thing or two. However, it's the overanalizing he does every time that drives people nuts. Really, does he need to mention the double defense and guarding the line in every game? I'm surprised those words don't come out of TMac automatically after the seven inning like a recording. And BTW, the comment about Wheels knowing more baseball than Sarge is laughable. Wheels might know how to talk a better baseball game, but come on. If you have a little league team, and you want the players to learn more about the game, the baserunning, fielding, hitting, throwing, even bunting, who would you rather have? I thought so.— EL Zorro
- I agree with what you've said. The ambiguity is whether, if the umpire decides to review the play to see if it was a home run, after reviewing the tape, the umpire can then call fan interference and call the batter out. According to Charlie, West told him he was reviewing the play to see if it was a home run or not. The rule allows an umpire in that circumstance to determine if it was fan interference if the ball was called a home run on the field, not if it was called a double or some other hit. It is murky, but I am convinced that West thought it could have been fan interference and therefore he decided to review it. His subsequent reported story that Charlie asked for a review to determine if it was a home run seems like a cover up to hide the fact that he did the wrong thing by reviewing the play. Even Jack McKeon said the umpires may have been wrong initially in reviewing the play under the circumstances *saw him say that on a Sports Center clip).— OBLawyer
- We should give Joe West and those 2 idiot fans some Philly loving!— lonewolf100
- Joe West 1; Phils 0— M60tanker
- Wheels looks like he has oatmeal on his head— stoky
- Hey Chase Utley is not above criticism, remeber this is Philladelphia we rip everybody!— male
- Re Wheeler vs. Sarge: Sarge certainly knows the game from the inside better than Wheeler does. But unfortunately this inside knowledge rarely translates into verbal analysis that helps us understand what's happening on the field. Sarge has gotten somewhat better at this as he's gone along, but he's still relatively inarticulate about the fine points of the game. What Wheeler does well -- yes, well -- is explain the flow of the game in a way that the average fan can easily understand. I have no problem with him, and am somewhat bemused by the hatred that some hold for him just because he never played the game competitively. Some of the best announcers ever -- Scully, Harry K, Mel Allen, Ernie Harwell, Red Barber -- were never players and that didn't hurt their work. The best broadcast teams pair an articulate former player, or two, with an articulate, smart career broadcaster. Like Frantzke and L.A.— Dave Clemens
Joe West created the universe in 6 days and rested on the seventh.. he is infallable and all knowing.....................in his mind— Phil Lee- Dave Clemens, the difference between Wheels and the guys you mentioned (Scully, Allen, H. Kalas, etc) is they were play-by-play guys, not analysts. Nice try, though.
— EL Zorro - Cholly explaining anything is like Professor Irwin Cory describing nuclear physics. and Joe West sings far worse than he umpires.— stoky
- Charlie never spoke to West prior to the replay being reviewed. How could he have asked for it to be reviewed. If West claims he did, than MLB needs to review THAT video. If there is no interaction between West and Charlie than West is lying. And lying cannot be tolerated in ANY umpire or referee in any sport. I don't think West is allowed by the rules to overturn the onfield call. As an earlier post pointed out, if fan interference results in the batter being called out, we need to, as fans, take one for the team and try to interfere with every ball hit by opposing player, including foul balls. Also, who says that "fan" was a Phily fan. My guess is he's never visited Philly and his "get over it" comment sound like something a causal fan of baseball from S. Florida might say. No wonder the Marlins can't fill a stadium.
— Tiller - If you are having a bad day, just come and read some of these posts. It will let you know that there are a lot of folks more clueless than you are...— phillyaztec
- Can't blame the fans... natural reaction to want to catch the ball...part that gets me is that if that if the protest does not go through, a precedent has now been established on how the rule is to be interpreted... all home town fans would be wise to interfere with any ball near the fence...the runner will be called out instead of a hit (neither double or home run)! JOE WEST is a BOOB!— Fred B.
- Chase would have a great shot from a "sand trap". Good chip shot.— dogman5
- Shouldn't umpires know the rules inside and out. Hell that have 5 plus months off to do so. Or is that againstthe unions policy of "Do less and get paid more" Another example of that a-hole, Joe West, throwing out a manager for questioning a rule he knows nothing about!— TS1958
- Cowboy Joe( if an umpire has a nickname, he's already doing something wrong)has been rated one of the worst umpires in baseball by the players year after year, and yet MLB keeps bringing him back. So the game deserves him , and his incompetent umpiring. Watch MLB not discipline this clown in any way whatsoever.— drbob1
- drob1 false statement--players state that West is the BEST ball and strike ump in baseball; he is at the near bottom while doing bases. He is the "crew chief" and if there was a mistake, his crew would suffer. I don't know why the base ump, who ran out on the play did not call it interference from the start--it was his call/responsibility.— thechief
- candidly is an idiot. Howard's not an albatross to this team. He leads the team with HRs and RBIs.— palmyra21
- The best comment on this blog had to be from STOKY comparing Magoo's arguing to Professor Irwin Corey explaining nuclear physics.
GOOD ONE - STOKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PRICELESS!
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!— johnpaulcpa - It's karma for that fair ball they called foul down the third base line against the Fish last year or whenever it was.— jburd641
- Don't dump on Utley. He needs to be rested more this year. Damn, Charlie should use September to sit him down every 4th game. I'm sick of hearing that the roster hasn't been expanded YET because of the minor league playoffs--Who gives a damn about minor league playoffs? Joe West should be fired, plus it is obvious he has a long standing bias AGAINST the Phillies.— Tomme
- MLB needs to clarify exactly what the umps can rule on when they look at a replay. Are they only limited to whether a ball is a home run or not, or can they overrule the field ump and decide that a ball would have been caught or was interefered with? What is to stop them otherwise from saying, "oh by the way we noticed from the film that the runner missed second on his way around from first and he is out also"? MLB has to limit what they can rule on or just open it all up to review., which they do not want to do.
Moreover MLB has to put a time limit on the review so that the starter isn't standing there for so long.
From the photo oin today's Inky, looks like the fielder's glove was too far to one side to catch the ball anyway. Besides who knows if he would have held onto it, if he had caught it. MLB has to require stdiums to be built so that hands can't reach into the playing area.— atp2007 - Poor old Joe. That huge ego and big chip on his shoulder have to be compensating for something. Maybe he needs to get laid...— bbk713
- To TheGuyINCharge69....Apparently you don't and never will understand the ability to play baseball..Injuries sir, injuries....he will rise to the occasion...I hope you will???— patpr
- To TheGuyINCharge69....Apparently you don't and never will understand the ability to play baseball..Injuries sir, injuries....he will rise to the occasion...I hope you will???— patpr
- TripleOption,joe west does not fly.he waddles at best.if you can,t run to the play he should be fired!he has always made up his own rules.— lfran55
- kelprod2,THANK YOU & I AGREE. FIRE CHRIS WHEELER!!I LISTEN TO FRANSKY & ANDERSON.MUTE TV,SYNC RADIO WITH TV PICTURE USING DVR. WORKS EVERYTIME.
— lfran55 - palmyra21,let's see what howard does in the playoffs.that's where production counts the most.hopefully it's not standing there and taking a called third strike at the most inopprotune time like last year.— lfran55
- this is all about Blow West and nothing else...once again he inserted himself into the outcome of a game that he had no business being involved with. West has an ego the size of Florida and wanted to be the center of attention as usual. Why all the hate for Utley?? He's batting 3rd for a team that's 40 games over .500 and on their way to their 3rd world series appearance in 4 years— ericyshel
- Joe West is an a**hole! He's always very confrontational when he deals w/managers, I think he has an "itchy trigger finger" when it comes to ejections and BTW he acts like his s**t don't stink!— gmuny2002
- I didn't see the game as i was out of town so i have no
comment on the play or review. I do have a problem with
Joe West. He is the worst ump and has been for years. His
ego is as big as his body. I hate to see anyone fired but
this guy has been asking to be fired for years. I'm sure
West is still here because the union is blocking his being
fired. Eventually the union will have to give in to this and
let MLB fire this RAT— associate - Charlie's right. It was OK to review the call, because it may have been a home run. But then to say, "Wait, the outfielder was interfered with" -- that's not why MLB has review. And, who's to say for sure that he catches the ball. Yeah, he was there. I'd say 50-50 he makes that catch. You can't reverse the double call because you think, maybe, he makes that catch. That's not conclusive at all, even by NFL standards.— eman
- Joe West blew a call also in Pittsburgh earlier this year, Kyle Kendrick was on the mound, I think it was a bunt down the line that he called fair when it was clearly foul on replay - cost the Phils a W in that game as well.— kse
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