A Looooooooooong Day Lost
The Phillies and their fans sat through a lengthy rain delay only to lose to the Mets in 12 innings, 4-2.
A Looooooooooong Day Lost
Todd Zolecki
The Phillies spent 7 1/2 hours at the ballpark yesterday only to lose in 12 innings to the Mets, 4-2.
Yeah, that pretty much sucks.
"It was a long day and it didn't end well," manager Charlie Manuel said.
"It was kind of like a day-night doubleheader," Jayson Werth said. "It was a tough loss, being out there as long as we were."
Manuel acknowledged afterward that he is concerned about his team's hitting. The Phillies have lost 13 of their last 20 games, a stretch in which they have averaged just 3.75 runs per game. That shouldn't happen to an offense that includes Ryan Howard, Jimmy Rollins, Chase Utley and Pat Burrell. A week or two is one thing, but the Phillies' offensive struggles have lasted three weeks. The sooner the better, obviously, because the Phillies' NL East rivals are just begging to be buried in the standings.
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Jim Salisbury breaks down Brad Lidge's contract extension.
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Bob Ford points out two messages that came from yesterday's extension:
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Lidge is the closer.
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Brett Myers is in the rotation.
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Tom Gordon has been placed on the 15-day disabled list with elbow soreness. He missed more than a week last month because of shoulder soreness, so everything seems out of whack. But it sounds like Gordon's health issues have no bearing on Myers' future in the rotation. Pat Gillick and Ruben Amaro Jr. made it perfectly clear they expect Myers, who pitches tonight for triple-A Lehigh Valley, to return to the rotation this season.
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In the Phillies Notebook, Chase Utley and Lidge make the all-star team, while Pat Burrell is looking for help from Phillies fans.
I'm a Manual fan but he needs to: stop taking one AB a game away from Burrell; stop leaving Howard in the cleanup spot; make Rollins take a pitch; start making Chase NOT always take a first strike; make Gordon go on DL everytime he has a twinge and not try to "work through it" amd make the water ice stands have cherry after the 5th inning. And make the team put in another location to get crab fries. Yo Truth, it's jump off the bandwagon or jump off the Walt Whitman, not jump out of airplanes. And guys, we need to stuff the box for Pat the bat, just like Boston and Chicago do for their players. Other than that, I'm good....LOL. jimmymack
Honestly, what is the fascination with Burrell? Does he lead the league in Rbi's is he in the top 5 in Hr's. Was he the fastest to 100 Hr's in the 125 yrs of recorded baseball history? Burrell was a joke until his CONTRACT year. Now he is a beloved Philadelphia athlete that is deserving of an All-Star slot? The guy is a little above avg. PLEASE-- I think YOU should cut Cholly some slack-the players respect him and can approach him. If Burrell was healthy enough to play deeper I think Cholly would let him. Furthermore, the Brewers got alot stronger with Sabathia. I have no doubt that this collection of hitters will make the playoffs but to win a series P.G. has to do something pretty big. Losing Lohse looks pretty foolish right now. This team would spend the 4.75 million to sign a guy that helped us considerably last yr and was well liked and seemed to fit in chemistry wise. Pretty sad and classless!!! Truth
Truth, I'm actually more fascinated with Howard. Like how do you go from well-rounded to totally one-dimensional in 2 years? How does your average plummet 50 points each year? Your fielding get worse? Your Ks go up? Don't "superstars" usually get better? Guys that want to be the highest paid in the game? Burrell has made 8.3 a year for 6 years (50 total) and earned every penny of it. John in LA
Truth - you do know that they offered Lohse a much larger contract than he ended up with, and he turned it down, right? And from what I read in the offseason, he didn't like pitching in Philly. Enough of your "classless" nonsense.. Gary Varsho
J-LA What? He has earned every penny-are you delirious? I'm not even going to list the the Burrell files of ineptitude. Like I said he was a JOKE for 4.5 yrs. He was a part of the Leiby, Wolf, Abreau to cool to care crowd and you know it. Truth
Gary if you can back that up great- My info was far different. They were intimidated and didn't want to do business with Boras. They didn't offer him anything. Lohse decided to wait until later in camp until the injury bug hit and his value woulod increase. What your saying is pure balderdash. Accept the Phils for what they are the two C's. Classless and Cheap- Truth
Truth - never let the facts get in the way of a good argument: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20080614_Phillies_Notes__Lohse__front_office_didn_t_see_eye_to_eye.html Gary Varsho
Truth, Lohse confirmed the offer a few months ago. Talk about clueless. http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20080614_Phillies_Notes__Lohse__front_office_didn_t_see_eye_to_eye.html RG
TRUTH: Here's the info to back up Gary's claim about Lohse. It's from an article in the Daily News dated 6/14/08 titled "Lohse, front office didn't see eye to eye". Here's the link: http://www.philly.com/inquirer/sports/19939154.html. Here are a few excerpts: The Phillies and Kyle Lohse agree on one thing:The Phils did try to re-sign the righthander after last season. Lohse, who will pitch against his former teammates for the St. Louis Cardinals today, confirmed yesterday that he received a three-year offer in the neighborhood of $21 million shortly after last season ended. "They said no," said Amaro, referring to the offer that was made early in the off-season. "We continued to have discussions. We tried to re-engage them right into January. "Their expectations were different from ours." There it is. Lohse held out and ended up taking a one year deal for less money, but that's on him, not us. bski
I stand corrected...... Truth
Truth....Once again....Do your homework! Pat IS in the top 5 of HR's. In fact, he's only 1 or 2 behind Chase. Who is leading the majors, with 24. At least as of last night. And jimmymack......I totally agree with you about Chase *looking* at the first pitch! It drives me crazy! And more often than not, it's a strike. I don't necessarily remember him doing that the last couple of years. Maybe that's why his SO's are up this season. Not that he's anywhere near Ryno, yet! LOL! Norma
TRUTH: I admire the tenacity with which you defend Ryan Howard. One thing though. Every defense you raise centers on his offense(hr, rbi, etc...). What do you have to say about Howard's defense. If he is truly a complete player, you can't ignore that side of the ball. Why is he a butcher defensively who continues to get worse as time goes on? Does he not care about defense(because he's paid to put up big offensive numbers)? Does he not have the physical skill to play good defense? Does he not have the commitment and work ethic to become a better defensive player? I would think that, if for nothing other than personal pride, he would be embarrassed by what he's doing in the field and would want to improve. You never speak about this. Why? bski
Truth and those pesky "facts"... coming into this year, over the first 5 years of his 6 year deal, Burrell averaged 27 HR and 92 RBI a year. Look around the Majors, genius - those numbers for 8.3 mil a year are a bargain. And that doesn't include this year. Your buddy Ryan wants, what, 2.5 times that??? John in LA
Truth: As Frasier Crane said to Cliff Claven on "Cheers"---"What color is the sky in your world?" Burrell is also 2nd or 3rd in walks which means he's patience and tries to wait for a good pitch. I also 2nd what Norma said about his stats this season. We all think he deserves to be on this year's All-Star team since he's having a great season. He's certainly had his ups and downs, but from this time last year to the present, he's been very good. KarenA
What about Howard for Texiera? No brainer, right? He's in a contract year... John in LA


