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Thursday, August 14, 2008

Jimmy Rollins called Phillies fans frontrunners last night on Best Damn Sports Show Period.

Yeah, Phillies fans kind of took offense to that.

“They’re frontrunners,” Rollins said. “When you’re doing good, they’re on your side. When you’re doing bad, they’re completely against you. For example, Ryan (Howard) is from St. Louis. St. Louis, it seems like they support their team. They’re encouraging.”

It's an interesting topic, and I actually see both sides because I'm one of the few people who interacts with both parties.

First, Phillies fans have every right to boo. They've been through hell (and whatever sub-level and sub-sub-level there is to hell). They've witnessed one world championship in 125 years. They've seen years of bad baseball, bad trades and bad decisions. But they still pack the ballpark. They still watch on TV. They still buy jerseys, foam fingers and Phillies Christmas ornaments. They still fly to Clearwater, Fla., every spring. They still fly to balllparks across the country to watch their team play. They still support a team that has lost more games than any other team in professional sports history. But they're fans, and fans get emotional. They're not booing because they want the Phillies to fail. They're booing because they very, very badly want the Phillies to be what they always hope they can be.

It's just that most players don't see it that way. They're not from here. They weren't around for 1964. They weren't around for Black Friday or Game 6 in Toronto. They don't care about Ed Wade's inactivity at the trade deadline or busts like Andy Ashby and Lance Parrish or Bill Giles calling Philadelphia a small market team. They weren't around for those things. They don't know about those things. They don't care about those things. They're just trying to win today. They just know that their fans are booing Pat Burrell and Mike Lieberthal during Opening Day introductions in 2006. They just know they're booing Ryan Howard, who leads the league in home runs and RBIs and won NL MVP honors two years ago. They just know they're booing Tom Gordon before he throws a pitch. They just know they're in first place in the National League East, and they're getting booed at home even when they're winning.

They hear those boos and they're like, "What the hell?"

Fans hear Rollins' remarks and they're like, "What the hell?"

Ironically, Rollins is one of the players least affected by the boos. Other players wilt in Philadelphia. Rollins hasn't wilted one bit. But yesterday's uproar -- hey, I'm in LA, I only know it's a "big deal" because everybody back home tells me it's a big deal -- only illustrated the differences between fans who grew up in Philadelphia and the players who grew up elsewhere but play here.

I don't see those differences changing anytime soon.

Posted by Todd Zolecki @ 2:43 AM  Permalink | 255 comments
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Posted 01:20 PM, 08/15/2008
UPSETPHAN
Who is the real MVP Jimmy? The one that took charge of the fans' and players' positive imaginations last year or the one who doesn't run out a pop fly, shows up late on game day, contradicts his manager, critcizes the the "not cupcake" fans he praises on commercials, etc? Has the "not cupcake" MVP JIMMY turned CUPCAKE along with bobblehead agreeing, Ryan Howard? Philly has its share of "cupcake fans" and they are coming to Jimmy's defense when his ill-timed behaviors throughout this year don't warrant such "namby pamby" defense of a millionaire. Where are the 100 wins Jimmy so boldly suggested prior to the season? Perhaps he turned "cupcake", too! His negative behavior is encouraging to the team? Proficient use of bats and balls could be used to silence the boos, if that is what the players use and are paid to use in a proper manor in their "expertise" as MAJOR LEAGUGE BALL PLAYERS. How can "boos" change the "sticks and stones" analogy concerning PROFESSIONALS when grade school children are capable of comprehending it?
Posted 08:05 AM, 08/15/2008
drbob456
Well. It's our fault that the Phils are in a tailspin. These poor unappreciated millionaires have their feelings hurt. Mea Culpa. Mr. Zolecki has nailed part of the problem with this year's edition of the Phillies vs. fans disconnect. The other part is the loss of clubhouse leader Aaron Rowand. Apparently no one on the team has stepped up to fill his shoes in the clubhouse. Who qualifies? Certainly not Rollins who feels he is too good to ride on the team bus or leg out a grounder. Rollins has morphed into just another average hitting slick fielding shortstop. The woods are full of them. Howard and Victorino are still kids learning the game. Burrell and Chutley are the quintessential lone wolves and the bottom of the order is, well the bottom of the order. Boo Rollins? Not me. He hasn't been playing well enough this year to rate a boo. His plate appearances are being mailed in. And so another year of futility for the long suffering fan in Philadelphia while the players park their Beemers and Escalades in the players parking areas.
Posted 10:04 PM, 08/14/2008
Clinton, NJ
249 comments!!!!!! WOW! Rollins is a #$$@!&$@!%$%#^$^&%%$!!!!!!!!
Posted 08:44 PM, 08/14/2008
Blah202
I couldn't agree more with his comments. So true.
Posted 08:12 PM, 08/14/2008
pabst blue ribbon
bobby-t you there on sundays? thats our section 143
Posted 08:07 PM, 08/14/2008
rds260
Front runner implies that you only support your team when they are winning. If that was true about Philly fans, there would not have been any booing the last two years. Fans boo when a player screws up or ownership screws up and they couldn't care less what position the team is in or how many MVP trophies are in their closet. That my friends makes Philly Fans definitely not front runners. Jimmy's just angry because he is playing lazy ball and the fans are calling him out.
Posted 08:04 PM, 08/14/2008
pabst blue ribbon
my uncle, buddy and i have sunday season tickets. it seems like every sunday game is the third largest in the ball park's history, at least thats what the stadium announcer always says. so we're front runners? to a mediocre team in a mediocre division? the phils have not shown to be a true powerhouse we were hoping for. front runners when i watch games like yesterday when we lose after being ahead by 5? front runner, when we cheer for you and yell MVP? thats a bunch of bologna. you guys get paid rather well to play a game you've grown up with. a game most of us could only dream of. so when our former MVP isn't playing well, the spark that ignited our team hasn't set a fire under their bums, maybe we can boo. how dare we expect a quality team with guys like utley, howard, rollins, hamels, lidge, burrel and even victorino and werth. that sounds like a team that could succeed, yet we share 1st place with anothet mediocre team... the stinkin mets. tell me why we shouldn't boo
Posted 07:54 PM, 08/14/2008
BillZe
Great post Todd! The bottom line is we want a winner and do not accept when a player does not give 100%. We do not get as upset when an athlete fails as we do when they do not leave it all on the field. http://myteamrivals.typepad.com/phightin_phils_phorum/
Posted 07:52 PM, 08/14/2008
snealfleeba
Don't be PLAYA HATIN'!
Posted 07:39 PM, 08/14/2008
Einstein II
H..s a f...... N..... Thats all we all need to know.
Posted 07:32 PM, 08/14/2008
MrPhillie
+philly...you don't think Jimmy Rollins has been asked about the Philly fansprior to that show? Ever? That's craziness, Jimmy is supposedly a reasonably intelligent person and he obviously has thoughts concerning many things about Philadelphia, including fan support and reactions. He 100% knew what he said and meant what he said....he was not somehow "blindsided" by the line of questioning. The thing is, I think Jimmy spoke a bit of truth...Phillies fans (actually, Philadelphia sports fans in general) are a bit more emotional and unforgiving than most other fans. However, if a fan is laying down the kind of money necessary to watch a professional sporting event in person, then that person has the right to boo...as long as no profanity or personal remarks are used. I can see also that some players do not want to play in Philly because some of the enjoyment might be taken out of the game becasue of the sometimes unwarranted booing. Yes, athletes should be able to suck it up and play, but no matter how much money a person makes, they're still human. Jimmy has to realize his team is very much underperforming this year and given the fact that he predicted so much success for his team, he should understand the fan's frustrations. Personally, I never thought of Jimmy as an MVP-type of player and truthfully, he wasn't last year either. He is an above-average player...nothing more. Really, he is a career .270's hitter, so we should have never expected another year like last year. I'm not sure why he chose to make these comments, but I sort of get the idea that Jimmy tries to be the "cool" one wherever he goes, and he probably felt that with his "MVP stature" that he should make some bold comments...you know, looking tough in front of the guys.
Posted 07:14 PM, 08/14/2008
raoool
Rollins is not up to the leadership position that has been thrown at him (simply because the Phillies have no leaders) and being in the laid-back LA environment pushed his 'cool' button; so he sucks up with the California press to re-enforce his diminishing self-confidence. It's ok Jimmy. We know you're too cool to run out a ground ball; and why should an (almost) superstar badass have to be on time for a Mets game - you used to be ahead of them in the standings afterall and even won a division over them once. Who cares about Rollins? He's a Philly media phenom blown up for the same reason he's become team leader - there's just no other choice. The bad part is that Ryan Howard could have been great if he had teammates that could show him what it takes to be great (those things that Rollins doesn't understand like hard work, dedication, always trying to improve...). Rollins obviously has no clue about that stuff - he's already a superstar in his own mind. And Howard sees that and learns it's pretty cool making all this money to play a game. The two epitomize the Phillies - good enough is ok and I don't have to work at it. It's the fans' problem that the Phillies can't win a playoff series. The players sure don't care.
Posted 07:07 PM, 08/14/2008
kecward78
For years, ownership has done the fans wrong... and I'm not just talking about the Phillies. The ownership in this city has been cheap, cheap, cheap. All the teams are good enough to get to the playoffs, or at least contend, but they never have that great pitcher, hitter, shot-blocker, goalie, running back/receiver/quarterback. And it all just bleeds our pockets dry. Not that I think Ed Wade was a saint, but the same thing is happening to Pat Gillick, he gets to spend a little, but not enough to get that top-shelf guy. And the Eagles being $19 million UNDER the budget, but still no great receiver or pass-rusher, is just irritating and embarassing.
Posted 07:04 PM, 08/14/2008
mike l
Got an idea: how abouyt every time Howard strikes out an the same low and away p[itch we stand up and give him an ovation. Or when he throws the umpteenth ball past Rollins at second on a force out or pickoff, we all cheer. Or when Rollins doesn't run out a ball, we shout, "Good job, Jimmy, way to play!" Or whem Meyers falls apart on the mound and shows up Uncle Charlie, we give high fives all around. Now that would show everyone what great fans we are and make sptost and phillyboy proud of us. It would also show that we are the dumbest fans in the world.
Posted 06:56 PM, 08/14/2008
+philly
Ok lets all take a step back from what has been said. Jimmy doesn't not have time to think about responses to questions. We have all had time to think about our responses. We've had time to think about responses. I have always been a Philly fan from Central NJ right smack in the middle of the NY media. I have dealt with the NY fans and I take a lot of heat. However, reading the responses to JRoll really shows how ignorant people can be. Everyone has been quick to jump on the guy. Why? He has a job to do. He does it quite well, yeah there are times we wish he would have delivered a hit rather than a pop up, but this is part of the game. Baseball is a game of opportunity, where you fail more than you succeed. If we create an atmosphere where our players can succeed we might see better results. Lets change the scenario for now based upon our own lives. We work for a living. No matter what type of job you have you want a job that creates a positive atmosphere. Your job could be a minimal paying job or a well paying job. But our goals are all the same. You want the support of your co-workers, your bosses, and anyone else that might rely on you. If you don't get this support you just don't perform as well because you begin to worry about their thoughts. Now JRoll may not be bothered by booing fans, but some others on the team may let this affect their performance. Why do we want to create an atmosphere where our players feel like they are playing an away game. These guys we place great hopes of delivering a championship but yet we knock them during tough times. I believe these guys are capable of great things. There is time to rebound and put some distance between ourselves and the Mutts and Fish. This offense is too good to stay down for long and if our pitching continues we will do just fine. I am tired of hearing nothing but negative things about my sports town. I have suffered with everyone of you.
Posted 06:45 PM, 08/14/2008
phillyboy88
sptost...agree with you totally. these freakin' people are supposed to be able to say what they want, do what they want, criticize all they want..., I guess because the athlete(s) are supposed to just take it and not have their own feelings about it...? but when an athlete has a comment about the fans, OMG!!!! How dare he say such a thing about us???? freakin' idiots, get over yourself! makes me sick....j-roll was right. and if you take every generalized comment and think that it is about you, then you've really got a problem. he wasn't talking about "every" fan in Philly. if you can say whatever you want, why can't he? freakin' idiots...
Posted 06:42 PM, 08/14/2008
likeitis
Everyone has the right to boo but the fact is, booing is just stupid. Yes, booing is done in many ballparks, especially in the northeast, but nowhere is it worse than in Philadelphia. What we have here is a self-fulfilling prophecy: the fans here insist on their right to boo and scream obcenities at players but other ballparks are slightly and often largely more civilized. Jimmy has been tough enough to deal with it but he is concerned with the FACT that many top notch ball players and especially pitchers won't come here not because of the enticing fences in left, but because the fans here are so unforgiving and at times, they'll seek to run you out of town. Fans think the players are thin-skinned, and perhaps some of them are, but judging by the city's reaction to Rollins's comments, maybe some of the fans are a bit too sensitive themselves. Bottom line, as long as Philly perpetuates its rep as Boo Town USA, we'll never attract the best free agents on the market.
Posted 06:34 PM, 08/14/2008
IAMDETOX
Awesome post sptost!! I'm 34, so I've suffered a little longer.
Posted 06:33 PM, 08/14/2008
jtj06
The phillies would be wise to dump Rollins for some prospects while he still has that MVP sheen on him. He played way over his head. He has MVP talent, but not the heart and he isn't smart enough to improve his game.
Posted 06:32 PM, 08/14/2008
phillyboobird
jibberjabber, you hit the nail right on his bald head. why isn't anybody saying anything about that big dummy (from st louis)sitting next to jroll nodding his head in approval
Posted 06:31 PM, 08/14/2008
PhillyFan693
i dont understand rollins of all people cirisizing our fans. considering we sell out everyday to watch an underachieving horrible team play, and they dont even boo him..get out of here
Posted 06:10 PM, 08/14/2008
andrewfrombrooklyn
Rollins is right, to a point--like everyone else has said so far, most cities have front-running fans. But, really, who cares? I'm much more concerned about the inconsistencies on this team. They can't put it together, and maybe it's because one of their best players is doing a talk show when he should be working on his hitting or something. We love you, Jimmy. Now get back to work.
Posted 06:04 PM, 08/14/2008
Einstein II
JRoll is a just another misunderstood black boy. He got that big ol black chip on his shoulder this year, why I have no idea, I guess its just one of those black things, you knows. And the more you call him out on it, the more this bro will stink up the place. Drop him to 8th in the lineup. When he was out earlier this year the Phillies did fine without him. Victorino, Werth, Utley, Burrell, Howard, Feliz/Bruntlet, Coste/Ruiz, Rollins (and make him bunt everytime and run it out). FN.
Posted 05:51 PM, 08/14/2008
philly3038
I cheer homeruns, hits and good plays, I boo strikeouts errors and bad play and to me that is just the essence of sports and fans if you cant take it find a different job. Why a player thinks fans should just blindly cheer everything they do baffles me. I wonder if when they watch other sports do they ever show their own dissapointment with some plays
Posted 05:44 PM, 08/14/2008
jimmymack
Yo Todd, what's the all time record for hits on the blog? 230+ comments, pretty impressive.
Posted 05:39 PM, 08/14/2008
lcd24
sptost you are a arrogant punk fraud. Oh and as far a JROLL is concerned he was the MVP LAST YEAR, and just like the real world its not what you have done for me in the past its what you are doing for me right now! Right now he is just being a average player but I guess once expectations get raised in your eyes and JROLLS living off the past is enough. Oh and if he gets hot and leads this team to the playoffs count me out of the JROLL bandwagon, not that he is getting hot anytime soon. I guess as a fan base we are tired of bases loaded no outs and end up with three quick outs and no runs, or better yet when a new pitcher comes in and we swing at the first pitch and pop out but hey thats ok with you as long as we dont boo right?
Posted 05:29 PM, 08/14/2008
metro
I felt like my girlfriend broke up with me after I read his comments last night. Lifelong Phillies fan....Yes, Philly fans are tough…and regrettably maybe a little too much at times, but really not much different than Chicago, New York, Boston, etc. St. Louis gets all this credit for being a “model sports town”, but does anyone forget when they booed Pujols a few years back when he got off to a rough start….and does anyone remember how Ankiel got booed when he fell apart as their pitcher...I could go on. It happens in ALL the major sports cities that give a care about their teams, when are people going to realize that? NYY booed A-Rod, Boston booed Ortiz, etc…etc. I'm not a big fan of booing quite honestly, but it happens and will continue to happen as long as we continue to pay a ridiculous amount of money to see the games and not win championships. Unfortunately, people will continue to stereotype Philly until the end of time b/c it’s easy and most people aren’t open minded enough to look around, see the facts, and face reality…and those who think no one boo’s in STL, I have some solar powered flashlights to sell you. Go Phils!
Posted 05:28 PM, 08/14/2008
loosecannon
J-Roll is a total jerk.
Posted 05:28 PM, 08/14/2008
Calvinesq
Jimmy better ask Schmitty for the wig.
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Posted 05:16 PM, 08/14/2008
SteveV
You better believe I'm going to boo someone who shows up late, doesn't run the bases on multiple occasions, underperforms for an entire year, AND takes home $8,000,000.
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Posted 05:09 PM, 08/14/2008
daveb618
I'm proud that that Philadelphia boos teams when they do bad. We're not lovable losers like Cubs fans. If you don't perform, you don't deserve accolades. Success and cheers are earned. More importabtly, to say we're not good fans is totally NUTS! I have freinds from boston, nyc, pittsburgh, LA, SD, San Fran and they all know I'm a religious philly sports fan. They are intimidated by it a little bit. We are sports obsessed in Philadephia and that's unique and awesome. So if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen Jroll, just like Scott Rolen did. Last year you played great, this year you haven't. Get on base or BBBBBBBooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
Posted 05:02 PM, 08/14/2008
drsublux
I hate to disagree with you sptost, but you are wrong. As a life time Philly fan we have supported good teams and mostly bad teams. We as fans boo to let premadonna athletes know that you cant get away with lazy play or casting dispersions on our fan base. It is a slap in the face when a guy making millions it telling us how to be fans. I boo so the 50 owners of the Phillies know that I am disappointed with the team. And even though they are making money hand over fist they still dont hear our cries. And if some poor schlup that is only making 10 dollars an hour spends his hard earned money to go to the game and use the only form of displeasure to show the player/team/ownership how he feels then more power to him. I would like any other fan base walk a mile in my shoes and let me show them the pain it is to love our Philly teams. Their is no come back when someone says to you "how many championships you got". I just look away and say...bleep.
Posted 05:02 PM, 08/14/2008
tsoprano
This team is cooked. This team has to many bench players as starters in their everyday lineup. As far as Eggroll goes, I would say this guy definately wants out!
Posted 04:51 PM, 08/14/2008
djdiemidio
We're not fickle fans, we boo when he doesn't perform, we cheer when he does. Just because we boo doesn't mean we don't want him to succeed. Its the only way we can voice our displeasure with the effort he's given this season and at some point he needs to realize that and his lack of effort and pick it up. If booing leads to that, we've done our job as fans. If booing doesn't lead to that then Rollins just doesn't get it and will never hustle like we want him to. What don't you understand about that? Thats not frontrunning. Thats being a fan and caring.
Posted 04:48 PM, 08/14/2008
joker1
Yo Jimmy.....why don't you go join Scotty in Toronto; I hear they don't really care if you win or lose in Canada. The two of you can cry over how bad you had it here, and play on a team of losers, but what the hell you won't get boooed right? I will say the same thing to you that I said to him. You are way overrated and not nearly as good as you think you are. GOOD RIDDENCE LOSER!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahah
Posted 04:46 PM, 08/14/2008
sdking1112
Hey, Jimmy, Did you happen to see all the empty seats at Dodger Stadium while you and your buddies were getting swept? Now tell me, how many ballparks have you been in lately that show up in the numbers that Philly fans do. Just remember, fans show up and spend all that money to support their team day in and day out and like in anything else in life can become discouraged but no group of fans is louder and more supportive than here in Philadelphia!!
Posted 04:43 PM, 08/14/2008
ezd
Sorry Keep your...but that '93 team was pretty WT if you know what I mean. Kruk was fat, is still fat. Daulton & Dykstra were drunks...Dykstra accused of steroids, Mitchie Poo blew it all in the end. Fun to watch, but still not world champs. You do recall that loss, I'm sure, no?
Posted 04:36 PM, 08/14/2008
mtt122
At least we front run it all the way out.
Posted 04:33 PM, 08/14/2008
johnnyreb413
Instead of cheering for our team to win, you losers will all buy tickets to boo our players, particularly Rollins, to prove a point. What point are you gonna prove? That you are mad? If the team loses that night will you be satisfied because you got your rocks off booing even though it made the team no better? Everyone that is offended by Rollins' comments are the fickle fans he refers to. Correction: we don't pay the players, we pay Giles and the owners who then pay the players. Big difference. The business profits. If you don't like the players on the field, don't go! Then you will really see some changes.
Posted 04:31 PM, 08/14/2008
GetRealYouIdiots
What morons. What did he say that isn't true? When the Phils are winning and EVERYTHING is going well, you idiots are all over JRoll and Ryan H's hairy bean bags. And when things get tough, rather than cheer them and the Phils on, you jerks boo them. Here's an idea, why don't you morons continue to take the bait from the hacks who write this crap. Yeah, go ahead and ride two of the best NL players out of town. You people are clueless.
Posted 04:30 PM, 08/14/2008
pog
Yep....front runners.....but at least we run more than Rollins will and more than Howard ever will......done with this team.....
Posted 04:27 PM, 08/14/2008
djdiemidio
JohnnyReb just because he was the MVP last year and we were a fan of his in the past doesn't give him the right to do whatever he wants from now on. He hasn't hustled this year, he's performed incredibly low compared to previous years (not even solely compared to his MVP year), he has shown up his manager, and now is criticizing us for front-running? When have we even been in front to be front-runners? The term he is looking for is "fair-weather fan" but even that does not describe us. I am a passionate fan of all 4 teams regardless of where they are in the standings. I boo when I feel that they're not playing as hard as they can but that is all we ask of them. You need to realize that.
Posted 04:27 PM, 08/14/2008
andyballentine
Philadelphia is a very tough place for a professional athlete to play, and so is New York and Boston. If you go to a ballgame in a ballpark not in the northeast, the atmosphere is much more supportive for the home team. (How well I remember being at a Phillies game the first season of Citizen's Bank Park with my adult son, who was wearing his Bobby Abreu jersey, and enduring the repeated insults of a typical (?) fan who yelled at us, "Abreu sucks!!" Not only was Abreu the target of abuse, but so were fans of Abreu! And this was in the home ballpark. Some players can stand up to the pressure of playing in the northeast. Other very good players can't. That's a loss for the home team.
Posted 04:24 PM, 08/14/2008
bobcat262
fyi, Philly fans don't suck. it's been said before, everyone in this city works for the money they get and we choose to spend it at the stadiums, where we live and die based on our teams success (or more often than not, lack of success). So when we have pre-madonna athletes that don't perform the way the should, or to the level that they get paid for, it's dissappoiting. why should we waste our hard earned money on chumps that look at strike 3. It's the same as every other big city that expects so much more than what their team gives. It's not like we don't support our team, ask anyone who was at one of the fightins playoffs games, undying support for a team that earned it. What have you done for me lately?
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Posted 04:12 PM, 08/14/2008
Jeffy3
Booby-T, the Pat Burrell is the perfect proof that not all Philly fans are negative. We have shown Burrell a lot of patience and encouragement. Also, it probably helps that he always has carried himself as a class act and doesn't bellyache or mouth off to the press about the owners or the fans.
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Posted 04:08 PM, 08/14/2008
Donh
After staying up late last night to witness the Phillies squander another lead, then wake up this morning to the JRoll tapes being played on radio...it just numbs the senses. We as Philly fans pack this stadium night after night, then we watch as the owner's pass up opportunity after opportunity to improve the team, citing the ever popular "We were sooo close" refrain. We watch them trade the one legitimate leader this team had because of a few bucks, the same thing they did with Polanco not so long ago. Now,we are a leaderless team and have to endure the mindless rantings of another player who has turned his back on Philadelphia. We really need to re-evaluate what we look for in players, and return "character" to the top of the list. In the meantime, trade jroll to Seattle and get five 20 year old prospects in return. Don't like the City? Don't respect the fans? Seeya.
Posted 04:03 PM, 08/14/2008
Drummerboy79
Applaud the effort? You applaud effort in little league. This is the major leagues and the fans have every right to express their disgust with high paid athletes not performing at a high level. These aren't scrubs that the fans are booing for poor performance, these are former MVP's and All Star calliber players. They should expect to get booed when they continually don't deliver the wins and they should be professional enough to take it.
Posted 03:59 PM, 08/14/2008
johnnyreb413
Send Jimmy Rollins to Florida and watch him win a World Series. Then see how you feel about it
Posted 03:59 PM, 08/14/2008
MikeChm
I see Todd's point, but it is not that we don't want the team to win, or the players to succeed, we want that very much and that is why we boo when a player is consistently bad or doesn't give his all for the team. I guess J-Roll wants us to cheer for someone who doesn't hustle all the time, doesn't do his job (like get on base to startup the offense), etc. (Gee, I wonder who I could be referring to?) I have noticed that J-Roll has a completely different attitude this year. That is evident from the problems Charlie Manuel has had with him. He acts like he doesn't care whether they win or lose. That attitude will get him nowhere with the fans and also will never get him a World Series championship. Anyway, most of us only boo for good reason. (Some just boo to boo which is stupid.) We work hard at our jobs and we expect no less from the players.
Posted 03:58 PM, 08/14/2008
cedara
Rollins didn't do anything to endear him to Philly fans by his comments. I see it as a way to justify his poor performance on his part, but I don't see him as the root of their problems and I don't boo their performance even though I'm not happy with it. When I was in Philly in the 60's, I loved to sit out in left field all be myself at Connie Mack Stadium and enjoy the ballgames. I didn't boo then, even though they usually lost and were the perennial last place team and I don't boo now. The new age Philly fans are paying their wages and if they want to boo, that's up to them. This team deserves it from their performance and that is what it is. Not just Rollims. Most of his vehemence has been directed towards the fans and their booing rather than at Charlie Manual and management where the problem really lies. He should also point at the sportswriters and himself who pick them to win with an underperforming team, thereby putting the pressure on. Who's he trying to pull the wool over? He needs to open his eyes instead of living in his dream world!
Posted 03:54 PM, 08/14/2008
SteveV
Typical crybaby athlete. He's making $8,000,000 to play a friggin' game. Oh, I better watch who I boo, because they might get upset and leave. And to respond to the people that think the "fans" ran these people out of town, you're idiots. It's all about MONEY. Send J-Roll to Florida and see how he likes it playing in front of 2,500 fans a game.
Posted 03:53 PM, 08/14/2008
bobby-t
I am a season ticket holder with seats in left field corner. Even when Pat Burrell was in his worst slumps and getting hammered by fans on sports talk radio, the fans at the games in that area loudly cheered Pat and encouraged him on and I know he could hear it. The vast, vast majority of fans at the games are incredibly supportive of this team and rarely boo a hometown player. So if one wants to generalize, base it on the behavior of the majority of fans.
Posted 03:52 PM, 08/14/2008
johnnyreb413
We also see a perfect example of just what Jimmy Rollins is talking about on this wall. RollinsMVP's comment at 3:35 PM. Purchasing tickets to boo the man who he proclaimed MVP and named his screen name after. True fan eh? I think not.
Posted 03:42 PM, 08/14/2008
johnnyreb413
Could we see Philly chase another talented athlete out of town? Jimmy Rollins is right on cue. These things I have been saying for years. The dumb fans should be booing the atrocious, invisible, vastly wealthy ownership of this team instead. Philly booed Mike Schmidt. Mike Schmidt! They have been on Donovan McNabb since day one. They chased Scott Rolen out of town. When you have great talent, it is easy to get caught up in just how good the guy is. He is not going to hit a home run, drive a team down the field for a touchdown, or score a goal every time he is on the playing surface. Give me a break. Applaud the effort. If you want your precious championship so bad stop laying all the unnecessary pressure on these guys. And you wonder why places like Carolina and Tampa Bay won Stanley Cups or the Marlins win World Series. Their fans might not be the most "dedicated" because of attendance, but they don't douse their players in flames day in and day out.
Posted 03:41 PM, 08/14/2008
burholme
Was Jimmy hanging around the batting cage with Manny before he made those comments? I'm proud of the fact that certain athletes can do well here and others don't. It's a reflection of who we are and I would never change that. For instance, the Pittsburgh Penguins can cheer the likes of Jagr and Malkin and Crosby. None of them would look right in black and orange.
Posted 03:37 PM, 08/14/2008
bpphilly
SPTOST: You are completely missing the point. Booing does not make you a front-runner, it makes you passionate. As a season ticket holder, you better believe I'm justified booing with the slop they put on the field. Burrell dealt with it for years and kept his mouth shut, J-Roll should do the same. Start performing and doing your job...so far this season he has failed miserably at that. Or he should try playing in a place like KC where no one cares either way. Obviously SPTOST, you don't follow and/or care about the Phils as much as the majority of posters on here. You're just as clueless as J-Roll with your moronic posts. Beat it Dope!
Posted 03:36 PM, 08/14/2008
EL Zorro
Todd, I am as frustrated as the people who boo their lungs out. But I don't boo. What I am going to accomplish with that. Are they going to hit better, pitch better, run faster? Please. The fans have a right to boo? Well, I am getting all my friends and boo you every time you come to work. See how you like it.
Posted 03:35 PM, 08/14/2008
jreese
Todd--am I wrong here? Outside of this season, the Phillies have been front-runners for exactly one day of Jimmy Rollins career--the final game of last season, which they followed up with three quick losses to Colorado. I don't think he, or the fans, know how to be a front-runner.
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Posted 03:33 PM, 08/14/2008
KGKoons
Look, fans pack the new park. They want a winner like all other city teams do. It was Jimmy who predicted the 100 wins, remember? The hitters are right now in the tank while the staff is just overwhelmed with innings because few of the starters have had more than 5-6 innings. Of course, the fans, who pay these guys zillions are moaning. It is bad enough that people like myself are old, can't wait too long for a championship, but it does seem other cities have far b etter opportunities to win, whether it is a Philly jinx, I don't know. Still, Philly just can't seem to get 'breaks' or contributors like other cities and fans , who are very loyal, are just frustrated to the enth degree. Rollins should get that but having no historical memory of the trials of Philly sports, he of course, does not.
Posted 03:32 PM, 08/14/2008
Flyers2001
To be a frontrunner, you actually have tp be in front. Since 93' when were the Phillies truly in front? What a joke this guy as become. I use to like him, but when he signed that contract it went right to his head. Shame he spent so much money on his nice big cottage in South Jersey, hit the road, your time is up.
Posted 03:23 PM, 08/14/2008
ag
Rollins is correct and he should have said that. The fans who boo and yell when a player like Jroll or Howard doesn't perform well for a period of time, are really pathetic. They are the same idiots that boo Donovan and Andy Reid. Some of those fans have responded previously to this blog in typical bitter Philly fan fashion. For instance ...Rollins is whiny, so trade'em and play Brunlett.. are kidding me? Do you know anything about baseball? These are type of fans who make us REAL fans look bad.
Posted 03:20 PM, 08/14/2008
djdiemidio
sptost, everyone defending Jroll, and Jroll himself: You are all misunderstanding the term "frontrunner". A frontrunner is a person who claims to be a fan of a team and follows them passionately in good times, but when the team is losing or simply playing bad he could care less about them and couldn't tell you one thing about the team or the players (like most Dallas Cowboy fans). This does not describe us Philly fans at all (most of us anyway). Booing is not frontrunning. Booing, is in fact, showing how much you do in fact care. Regardless of how they are playing we still pack the ballpark everynight even though they've been under .500 since early june, something not seen often from front-runner fans. If you all would simply understand the term then you would see how wrong you and J-roll are.
Posted 03:20 PM, 08/14/2008
ematusko
Todd, you are usually unbiased and right down the middle, which gets on my nerves, but I understand. In this instance I agree with you 100%. This is a passionate town that bleeds its teams' colors. The fact that the team's front office cares more about the bottom line is an absolute travesty!
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Posted 03:17 PM, 08/14/2008
FishtownFitz
J-Roll is just a whiner that wants to go back to the West coast. Everyone is talking about what a bad year he is having but, excluding last year when he played way over his head, this year is exactly how all his other years were. He tries to always hit home runs, he doesn't steal nearly as many bases as he could and he never bunts to get on base. He just wants to cause a stir and get out of town. He knows this team is not going anywhere. He wants to go to the A's, let him. But boo the hell out of him the rest of the season, I'll bet he cries.
Posted 03:17 PM, 08/14/2008
tdoc
Jimmy is an out-of-towner and doesnt fully appreciate our fustrations as philadelphia sports fans...it's not easy being us...could be worse for him though; he could be playing in NYC
Posted 03:12 PM, 08/14/2008
jeff gross
anyone else see where he's going to go back on tonight to clarify his comments? Everyone get ready..he's going to eat major crow at command of management. They can't have us not going to games any more etc
Posted 03:06 PM, 08/14/2008
TempleKev
Will.i.Am.... I'm sorry, but you are NOT a real fan! Real fans boo because they care about their team; the same reason we cheer. We have no personal vendettas against any of the players, only certain expectations. If your getting paid 8 million a year (50 k/game, 12,500/at-bat) to play baseball, than you had better at least hustle and show up on time without whining like a child. Philly FANS just want the players to care as much as them!
Posted 03:00 PM, 08/14/2008
SDNP
I got a question...if Chase was to jog to 1st base from an infield pop up, would he get critizised for it....I know 95% of the MLB jogs on pop-us, now he's known for not hustlin?
Posted 02:59 PM, 08/14/2008
condor
glennboe, show me in the constitution where we have the right to boo. our founding fathers didn't have booing at the ballpark in mind when they wrote the 1st ammendment. get a life. and the phillies are not a t-ball team that should get participation trophies for playing the season. as richard petty once said, "2nd place is the 1st loser".
Posted 02:57 PM, 08/14/2008
cadilacjack
If you would run the bases as well as you run your mouth we wouldn't boo you. Please, just hit, field, and lead team to wins like you did last year.
Posted 02:47 PM, 08/14/2008
samtheman
How can you call someone a frontrunner who continues to go out and see a team that has not won a playoff game in over 15 years? The real frontrunners are those people who live in Philly and are sick of all of the losing teams so they go out and buy a Red Sox jersey.
Posted 02:46 PM, 08/14/2008
jeff gross
Can we sum this whole thing up by agreeing that as long as the team is trying as hard as they can to win, and this means hustling, getting psyched up and being on time etc the fans are behind them and are supporting (ie: cheering) for them. Look at last year's 76ers. If they are lazy and don't seem to be giving their all whether they win or loose we will not support them and they will be booed as only Phila fans know how to boo
Posted 02:38 PM, 08/14/2008
TheHammer
It is a shame that Jimmy Rollins raised this issue. Now he will become the target of the idiot boo birds. A reality check here: I attended 70+ games when Mike Schmidt played. I heard boos and read the newspaper accounts of "The Fans". Only once did I ever see a fan boo. The boo birds are a vocal minority (many of whom post here and can barely type) and their numbers are blown way out of proportion by the media and the players. It may sound like 42,000 people boo, but in reality, it may be only a few hundred. Mr. Rollins, don't let a few people sour you on Philadelphia. It may be tough to ignore them, but the vast number support you and the team and want you to succeed. Unfortunately, as long as the fans allow those few idiots to represent them, the players will feel unsupported by "The Fans". No one wants to work where they are unappreciated.
Posted 02:36 PM, 08/14/2008
glennboe
It is every fan's right to boo. The first amendment protects that right. You also have the right to be a jerk to your waiter when you are having dinner with your wife. You are, after all, a paying customer. And to the toll collector, that you feel is taking too long, prolonging your wait in line. That doesn't make you a nice, respectful person though. If you think booing an athlete is your God given right, so be it. But, it doesn't make you a true fan. If you really want to win a championship, and you really want your players to succeed, you should be supporting them, and cheering them. Particularly, encouraging them if they fail, when they are trying their best. There is no one who wants to succeed more than that athlete that you are booing. Their is enough pressure to succeed in the big leagues. Booing will just increase the chances of an athlete failing in the future. A true fan encourages and cheers their players whether they fail or succeed, as long as they are trying their best. I have no problem with booing someone, who is not trying their best, ie. not running out a popup, backing up a play, etc. Unfortunately, the overwhelming majority of booing involves frustrated fans taking out their anger on an individual who is the most frustrated one in the house, the player. I do not think it is a coinicidence that St. Louis has been much more successful over the years than Philadelphia because of their supportive, respectful, and genuine fans.
Posted 02:36 PM, 08/14/2008
pinkygonzales
I'm glad J-Roll said what he said. We've taken the booing too far. Here is the truth that no one wants to hear. They (the players) are the ones actually competing, and beleive it or not, they want to win more than we want them to win. They do their best. And what do we do when they fail to get a hit or make an error. We boo them. We tell them they are worthless. We try to make them feel small. And after we've done this, we get mad at them for basically telling the truth. And we expect them to be contrite. We expect them to care about what we think of them. We expect them to love us as much as we love the team. And quite frankly, we don't deserve their love.
Posted 02:34 PM, 08/14/2008
jSchmo
I would give this more weight if it wasn't Rollins saying it. C'mon Jimmy. You don't hustle, you're late to the park and the team just lost the 3rd straight game. What do you want, roses? This town cheered Pat Burrell through a horrible year in '06 and supported Ryan Howard while he waved at pitches like a rookie leaguer into July of this year. I boo when I see a team not playing hard or a player not hustling. Cheering through thick & thin isn't a real fan, it's a stepford. Would you reward an employee with accolades when he was screwing up sales left and right? No way! Well the Phillies are employed by the fans and we have a right to let them know when they aren't doing their jobs. http://phillysportscentral.blogspot.com/
Posted 02:27 PM, 08/14/2008
qnsphilosopher
J-Roll needs to realize that almost every team in Major League Baseball has a fickle fan base, aside from those fans in St. Louis. Some fans are forgiving, like Cubs fans. Some fans are resentful, like my fellow Mets fans. Some fans express themselves often, like Phillies fans. I believe that, regardless of who you are and what city or state you play for, you do not call out those individuals who help pay your salary and love the team you play for. Devout fans spend their (very) hard-earned money on expensive baseball tickets to see their players perform. As fans, we acknowledge that baseball players are fallible like any other human being, but we do expect our team to play with heart and resiliency. If J-Roll should not care for his remark from the aforementioned economic standpoint, then he should care from a personal ones. Some fans spend most of their spring and summer watching their respective team compete for a pennan and World Series championship. J-Roll needs to remember what it means to be a fan, if he can. Maybe then he'll think before he speaks. P.S. This race for the NL East is very exciting. Regardless, we (Mets, Phillies, Marlins) fans know that our team won't make it past the NLDS.
Posted 02:27 PM, 08/14/2008
Trot
When are these crybabys going to learn we SEE they tank (JROLL) when needed most, we SEE a ballplayer not doing fundamentals like hitting to the right side or getting a fly ball or running out hits (JROLL). We SEE a manager that is not using the right guys in the right situations (BRUNTLETT and JENKINS and RUIZ) We see it day in now and day out and I want to break my TV. This team is full of superstars that are MEDIOCRE with no fire or desire. It looks lately like they are disinterested and just are there to pick up a check. Am I the only one out there with this observance?
Posted 02:26 PM, 08/14/2008
pabibb
Winning the MVP was probably the worst thing that could have happened to Jimmy. This year, he has that "I have nothing to prove" attitude and seems very complacent. He needs to become the leader this team sorely lacks since Aaron Rowand departed. I wish he would just keep his mouth shut and remind everyone why he was MVP last year. We want more than to finish first in a mediocre division in a mediocre league. This city is hungry for a real winner as we have endured sports disappointment for far too long. Jimmy's comments and actions this season haven't helped. Don't blame the fans Jimmy. Show us some heart!
Posted 02:26 PM, 08/14/2008
condor
come on, phillie phans, give jroll a break. he's an entertainer, not a player, and we pay to be entertained. and this is part of the entertainment, the 8 mil gag joke. want a winner, move to new york. want a whinner, stay in phily.
Posted 02:24 PM, 08/14/2008
jgfromnj
Rollins is RIGHT! Philly fans are the worse. They act as if they are owed something from every sports team in town. They treat Eric Lindros like the Messiah when he arrives then years later they chase him out of the city. Remember the "Philadelphia wants Jim Thome" hats everyone wore a few years back. Flash-forward - they chase Thome away also. TO was a godsend - then they HATE him. Dashing Donnie was the savior of the Iggles - now he SUCKS! It's fitting that the only Championship this town has seen in decades comes via a Giants fan from Jersey.
Posted 02:14 PM, 08/14/2008
dankil13
I was a big Rollins fan before this year - and I considered him the best SS in the league. He is the most talented, all-around player on this team. And if he played the game as hard as Utley did and went to the plate with the same approach (that is to hit line drives, not HRs), he would be a perenial all-star and have multiple MVP awards in his trophy case. If only the players on this team had as much heart and passion as the fans... but unfortunately, we want to win more than the leaders on this team. Apparantly we have set our expectations higher than most of the players on this team. How sad that we call Rollins our team leader - please bring back Aaron Rowand because he understood this, he was a real team leader, and would never accept comments like this or lackluster hustle from anyone on his team!
Posted 02:14 PM, 08/14/2008
dankil13
I was a big Rollins fan before this year - and I considered him the best SS in the league. He is the most talented, all-around player on this team. And if he played the game as hard as Utley did and went to the plate with the same approach (that is to hit line drives, not HRs), he would be a perenial all-star and have multiple MVP awards in his trophy case. If only the players on this team had as much heart and passion as the fans... but unfortunately, we want to win more than the leaders on this team. Apparantly we have set our expectations higher than most of the players on this team. How sad that we call Rollins our team leader - please bring back Aaron Rowand because he understood this, he was a real team leader, and would never accept comments like this or lackluster hustle from anyone on his team!
Posted 02:08 PM, 08/14/2008
1culi
Crazy, go somewhere else then jimmy (ill never call him j-roll again). Fans in philadelphia have passion and our attendence at home games (and away) certianly show that. Win a championship...and youll be an idol in this town for the rest of your life!! Stop whinning like a little baby and go get us a ring instead of striking out all damn night!!!
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Posted 02:04 PM, 08/14/2008
coolnamehere19125
dont like phillies fans? ask to be traded. philly fans want a championship. one or two every couple of decades is not alot to ask for. we have nhl nba nfl mlb and nothing in 25 years. if i did my job like you pros do you job i'd be fired. cry some more you big baby. you can dry your eyes with $100 bills. PUNK
Posted 02:03 PM, 08/14/2008
give me liberty or death
Wow 138 comments so far, when a politician is charged with some form of corruption ie using other peoples money. there are very few comments. no wonder the city affairs are in the state they are in, no one cares. keep following a GAME played by adults. adults that do not care about the paying customer, no less
Posted 02:03 PM, 08/14/2008
TheRock2020
Define "support". Packing the stadium is not "support" if everybody is booing.
Posted 02:02 PM, 08/14/2008
thefanatic
Will.i.Am is clearly a masochist. Rollins told us all what to expect from this team when he stated they were the team to beat. Only NOW have I come to the realization that he meant us to take him literally and that the Phils ARE the team to beat...and beat...and beat. As much as I hate Jose Reyes, it is only because he is a Met. I would take him over Jroll in, as they say, a New York minute. You're a cancer Jimmy. Get out! Until you do, we're doomed!!
Posted 01:59 PM, 08/14/2008
WmsCrew
The only fans that boo, are those that care about thier team. The fans have every right to be frustrated with an UNDER-PERFORMING team. And what has Rollin done this year? Wll.i.Am is NOT an "actual FAN". He' a stepford!!! I don't care how much a player (in any sport) makes, but QUIT WHINING, YOU'RE GETTING PAID TO PLAY A GAME!!!!!
Posted 01:56 PM, 08/14/2008
tc083069
Great column, TZ. I don't boo the Phils, but Rollins' comments still sting. He just does not understand our 25 years of pain. The solution is that if you bust your butt every time you put on a Philadelphia jersey, you'll never get booed...just ask Chase Utley, Bobby Clarke (the player, not GM), and Dr J.
Posted 01:53 PM, 08/14/2008
luvmesumbb
Way out of line. Is he for real? Respect is a 2 way street. He is one of the most unapproachable players around. He dodges reporters and fans and is not warm and friendly at all. I think he has a lot of nerve. I have been to 6 games this season, while the fans stand for him shouting 'MVP'. We show our appreciation year after year by selling out so many games and buying his memorabelia. He tried drawing Ryan Howard into the conversation by comparing us to St. Louis fans, you saw the look on Howard's face like a dear in headlights, like JR was committing professional suicide. Lastly, I am so tired of other cities bringing up the Santa Clause incident from what, 35 years ago. That had nothing to do with any of us around today and get over it. Doesn't everyone want to win" Show me a stadium where fans are cheering 'we don't want to win -- we just love looking at you!!' and I will show you a bunch of wimps.
Posted 01:49 PM, 08/14/2008
Bigbadrookie
If I was an ‘A’ player on the Phillies i.e. Ryan Howard, Chase Hutly, Jimmy Rollins and Hammels, I would be very angry and frustrated too. However, I would turn my frustration to ownership for being so CHEAP!!! They knew that they needed help, but did nothing. Philly fans and players are being fooled by the owners. They put together a team to compete and wet our appetite, but they will not get the right talent needed to win a championship.
Posted 01:47 PM, 08/14/2008
lgroniko
Gimelthead - 12:35pm - You CAN change the business side of the game; don't buy tickets.
Posted 01:45 PM, 08/14/2008
usn1223
Mondonj, I was with you until you said let Bruntlet play. I like what JRol can bring to the game, but I believe his recent actions indicate that it might be time to consider moving him. I think his best days are behind him although he still is a great player. Lets trade him and Brett Myers to Ed Wade and the Stros for Tejada and Oswalt?? Dreamin...
Posted 01:44 PM, 08/14/2008
pat h
JRoll had a career year last year MVP was well deserved. Now since were focusing on JRoll his career avg. .275 with a very poor on base percentage for a lead-off hitter.... That's basically tells you that this is the real Jimmy Rollins were seeing in 2008....I still love Rollins as my SS, but thes # speak for themselves....
Posted 01:44 PM, 08/14/2008
nickpa1
i wonder who trims his facial hair?
Posted 01:43 PM, 08/14/2008
Joe Mastronardo
YES! YES! YES! the NEW Jimmy Rollins!! Jimmy, I agree!!
Posted 01:42 PM, 08/14/2008
coolnamehere19125
every 1 still has free speech in this country. I (we) dont have to agree. that said rollins you are a (fill in bad word here). front runner means jumping on the band wagon when the team is winning jumping off when losing. how manny winning seasons have the phils had while you playing? how manny championships for the phils 1 one in 125 seasons. fans still go support the team(s). the flyers 76ers phillies & eagles all have great new stuadiums thanks to fan support. and countless losing seasons the fans still go to games. freedom of speach if, i want to cheer or boo I have that RIGHT. You jimmy rollins are 100% wrong.
Posted 01:41 PM, 08/14/2008
bshuler
SHUT YOUR MOUTH AND PLAY BASEBALL. You just dropped 2 games to the Dodgers. Instead of running your mouth on a talk show, go get some sleep and come out ready to play.
Posted 01:39 PM, 08/14/2008
carpinj
Stop worrying about Jimmy Rollins...He'll be gone in 3-5 years and we will all still be here with one world series title. FOCUS ON THE BIGGER ISSUES...Why couldn't Lidge come in and pitch to Kent? Manuel is killing this team with poor decisions...Taguchi the night before, losing w/out your best pitcher in the ninth two stright nights...
Posted 01:35 PM, 08/14/2008
mkat33
Yes, Philly Fans boo. So what? What are we supposed to do? It's not like we can sit in the stands and say, "Gee, guys. We really love you. Always have and always will. But, you know, you're not really playing up to your potential right now and, quite frankly, that concerns us. And, when you don't put forth the effort that we think you're capable of, we actually get kind of irritated. So, please don't take this the wrong way, but we really don't want to see any more sub-par efforts. We think it'll be best for all of us if you just try a little harder. C'mon fellas. Go out there and give it all you've got. And remember, we're here for you." Now isn't "Boo" a whole heckuva lot easier as well as more to the point. We're not front-runners. We're Philly fans. By the way, Jimmy. Does anyone recall us booing guys like Del Unser and John Vukovich? No. Do you know why? Because even though their abilities were only a fraction of yours, they gave it all they had, day in and day out (or whenever they actually got the chance to get into a game).
Posted 01:35 PM, 08/14/2008
deldog64
Jimmy ....your impatient at the plate. You swing at bad pitches and don't think your way through an at bat. You need to take some time to learn how to hit. Perhaps if you put your attention and energy into that instead of worrying what everyone else is doing? Well then there would be no issue
Posted 01:34 PM, 08/14/2008
realist024
I hate the booing...and I think we are waaay too quick to boo our players. What happened to booing the other team and being the "12th man"? However, this was the wrong person to speak up about it. James Rollins needs to play like he can and stop trying to be J-Roll a.k.a Willie Mays Hayes. Be on time, play like you give a damn, and shut it. Ryan Howard, now thats a guy who has a legitimate complaint about fans booing.
Posted 01:33 PM, 08/14/2008
sptost
oh and mondaj, i bet you like j-roll last year! if you didn't, you're a liar. frontrunner!!!!!!
Posted 01:32 PM, 08/14/2008
Norma
Hey, Jimmy.....Steel yourself for 8/10 when the team returns home! Too bad I won't be at the game until the 20th. He definitely needs to take some lessons from Burrell. Pat was booed for 2 years, and never took it personally. He appreciates the fans passion. Does sound like maybe J.Roll wants out. I'm sure Bruntlett would love his job. See 'ya, Jimmy!
Posted 01:31 PM, 08/14/2008
brad21
somebody needs to explain to jroll that if philly fans thought he sucked all he would hear is E-A-G-L-E-S chats.
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Posted 01:29 PM, 08/14/2008
DaFranchise
The comments could be a way of motivating himself for a strong push...Drawing the ire of the fans might get give him something to prove since nothing else is working. I also believe it's more of a frustration thing with mgmt not doing anything to help this team out. How long did they know gordon was hurt? No Manny or any other bat etc...I will still wear my 11 Jersey proud and continue to root for this bunch all day long!!!
Posted 01:28 PM, 08/14/2008
branden
who in the world cares about this? my god you people are idiots.
Posted 01:27 PM, 08/14/2008
lennyk
A percentage of phillies fans use Racist comments, making light of spouse abuse,making fun of charlie because he studders,or call people fat.I could go on with huge list of negative and personal comments I have heard over the years. That is not front running it's crazy. People who use these tactics to express their displeasure with out team have deeper issues. THese are the same people that have road rage and treat coworkers like crap because the hate their life.
Posted 01:25 PM, 08/14/2008
chrissmith
The problem with Philly fans is that their stupid, and sports are their lives. Get some other hobbies or interests. Take a walk. Go to a restaurant. Read a book. Sports are just simple entertainment. But Philly makes sports seem like religion. Silly stuff here.
Posted 01:25 PM, 08/14/2008
theanswer80
booing doesn't make you a frontrunner you idiot. they haven't won anything in 28 yrs and yet they fill the ballpark constantly there isn't anything frontrunning about that.
Posted 01:23 PM, 08/14/2008
theanswer80
booing doesn't make you a frontrunner you idiot. they haven't won anything in 28 yrs and yet they fill the ballpark constantly there isn't anything frontrunning about that.
Posted 01:21 PM, 08/14/2008
deldog64
Jimmy Rollins like so many players today has lost himself in the big money and spotligts. The truth is that although having a couple of good years at the plate Jimmy has never been a great player. He is inpatient and swings at bad pitches and when he faces quality pitching he fails to produce because he fails to learn how to hit. But becauss last year he was awarded the MVP he doesn't see that about himself. Thirty years ago Jimmy would have been a below average player but because the game has been so watered down he is now considered a star and of course he now see's himself in that way as well. Well Jimmy and the rest of the Phillies if perhaps your teams ever won anything then we would see how right you are and how wrong we are but as it stands you have not won anything other than a weak division title and that was only made possible by the legendary collapse of another team. It seems that this man is very full of himself for doing nothing ...Go Marlins
Posted 01:19 PM, 08/14/2008
CaliPhilly
I am in LA and have 6th row seats tonight. i will make sure rollins gets talked to right away. we boo because they just got tied for first after losing three in a row.
Posted 01:18 PM, 08/14/2008
stefek23
Don't you have to have a team consistently in first place or at least within 10 miles of first place to be considered a "front runner"? Sorry, J-Whine, I think you may have used the wrong term. Learn your history before you start bashing the people who pay your over-inflated salary, bro.
Posted 01:17 PM, 08/14/2008
acerulli
What is getting completely lost here is that this season is now officially over. The Phils are done. Whatever they had last year, is gone. Jimmy will no survive this on the field, and Howard will take a beating for it, too, as he was there nodding approval with the loudest silence I have ever heard. And the rest of the team is not going to be happy with Jimmy that he brought all this, not only on himself, but on the entire team. Utley, Burrell, Dobbs, Werth, Victorino et. al. now have to carry this with them the rest of the season. Step aside boys, the Mets and Marlins are coming through.
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Posted 01:14 PM, 08/14/2008
DangFool
This POS needs to catch a slapshot square in the nuts. Our biggest fault is our loyalty. We've had very little to chear about in the past 20 years and we're still packing the ballpark on weekdays. Was he friggin kidding? Oh, atleast Ryan had enough sense to keep his mouth shut. Big wing, no contact.
Posted 01:13 PM, 08/14/2008
acerulli
Perhaps Jimmy would like it better in St. Louis, where Tony LaRussa will constantly tell him what a terrible lead-off hitter he is, that he needs to work the count, draw walks, beat out ground balls; that he is not, never will be, Rickey Henderson, because Rickey actually got on base. Oh wait... Larry Bowa already tried that, and Jimmy wasn't happy then, either.
Posted 01:13 PM, 08/14/2008
Mark1npt
Truth...are you out there? oh , I forgot you're on the West coast now, 3 hr time difference....I'll have to admit you had me last week...now I feel like a fool....your inciting, racist comments were all a big play to get us going....just keep running hard for us, ok? Every play, every day.....right on out of town......
Posted 01:13 PM, 08/14/2008
Mark1npt
Truth...are you out there? oh , I forgot you're on the West coast now, 3 hr time difference....I'll have to admit you had me last week...now I feel like a fool....your inciting, racist comments were all a big play to get us going....just keep running hard for us, ok? Every play, every day.....right on out of town......
Posted 01:12 PM, 08/14/2008
RayEMTFF
Jimmy DAYS in Philly are comign to and end.You can see this coming after His First Benching for not Running. Then Him Arriving Late. Its amazing what a MVP award can do to change a person. And If Im corrected we the fans pay for contract so yes we have the right too BOO when ever we want. We are Philadelphia We want WINNERS and Loser's
Posted 01:11 PM, 08/14/2008
MY Pal Boomer
Hey Jimmy........BOOOOOO!!!!!
Posted 01:04 PM, 08/14/2008
ABV
Whatever. I'm a diehard Phillies fan and for the most part J-roll is right, whether or not he should have said this I don't know. Anyone who wants to get rid of him has got to be a complete and total idiot. He is one of the best shortstops in the game right now. If someone like Myers said this then we all have the right to rip him a new one (and I say that because of his latest antics with his manager for all to see). Not a player who produces like Rollins. Get over it.
Posted 01:03 PM, 08/14/2008
Mark1npt
It's all about self esteem issues and feeling good....kumbya my Lord, kumbya......
Posted 01:02 PM, 08/14/2008
TheMan
J-Roll can live in the past with his MVP year, but we as fans live for now. And now he's stinkin' up the joint. Imagine stepping into the batters box with 30,000 chanting MVP. Imagine stepping into the batters box with 30,000 booing the hell out of you because you stink now. Sorry, J-roll, keep your mouth shut, run your dinky ground balls and pop ups out, show up on time and then you won't get boooed. Chalk it up - the next player to leave Philly because he couldn't handle the pressure. Nice trip to LA, huh? Way to step it up fellas! Can't wait till you get back home to boo little Jimmy.
Posted 01:02 PM, 08/14/2008
lgroniko
Count me as one frontrunner who is going to stop putting money into the pockets of these prima donnas. My wife and I don't earn in a year what is taken from one of J-Idiot's checks in withholding. Forget the Sunday tickets next year. You deserve a stadium full of crickets.
Posted 01:02 PM, 08/14/2008
WDG99
J-Roll caught lightning in a bottle last year...at the end of the day, he's a career .270 hitter with below average on-base % and mediocre power. Have fun in St. Louis....give your ex-infield mate Rolen a call to see how that all worked out. Philly fans just want a winner - period - whatever team gets the next championship will have a "boo birds" bye for many years afterwards. Let's Go Flyers!
Posted 01:01 PM, 08/14/2008
qed
Jimmy's confused. We are not frontrunners (that would be teams like the Florida Marlins, TB Lightning, etc), we are rough and sometimes difficult. You either deal with it or you don't. I've said it before, this batch of Phillies is a bunch of wimps. Chase can't enough speak unless Jennifer approves what he says. Give me Pete Incaviglia and John Kruk any day!
Posted 01:00 PM, 08/14/2008
Chaseisdaman26
This is absolutely pathetic. In many ways I tend to agree with Rollins. As a diehard Phillies and Eagles fan, I tend to be ashamed of rooting for these teams at times because the overall Philadelphia population is naive and tends to not be aware of what makes your team truly better. (e.g. rooting for Garcia to replace McNabb, then he comes in for the injured McNabb and then he gets booed for Feeley, when Feeley has been less than average his entire career....that is just common stupidity). However, with that being said, Rollins has proven that by winning the MVP, he has all but allowed himself to become the most self-absorbed and self-loving player on the team. First the lack of hustling, then the tardiness, now this....add in the fact that with the exception of last season's record breaking year, he really is one of the league's most UN-DANGEROUS lead-off hitters. He tends to be feast or famine, doesn't really work counts, rarely walks, K's and doesn't do little thing with the bat to win games. I say if he wants out so bad, trade him to some small market team in need of a SS and get some quality young talent in return.
Posted 01:00 PM, 08/14/2008
doo dah man
as long as the parks keep getting filled, nothing changes. the teams will do just enough to keep the seats full, but not enough to get over the hump. and so players like rowand leave and non-leaders like rollins are left to be the soul of the organization. and, unsurprisingly, this what we get. Open the sports page and it's rollins crying, mcnabb crying, westbrook crying, lito crying. When I was 18, I bled with these teams, but after working for 20 years I find it much harder to get as worked up to watch a bunch of spoiled brats. Sure, it's nice to see them win, but everytime one of them does something like this, the fire inside me dies a little more. Where have you gone, Tug McGraw?
Posted 12:58 PM, 08/14/2008
tomis
Front runners don't boo they move onto the best team. The word he was looking for is possibly fickle, which may or may not be true. Until he understands he should stop pretending he does and just play baseball.
Posted 12:57 PM, 08/14/2008
josefbreuer
this season, when the fans have been buying out the stadium and providing the organization the huge revenue from each sell-out, the players who criticize the fans, those fans who boo, demonstrate how narrow-minded they (the players) are who deliver criticism about fan support. when we buy tickets, concessions, and souvenirs, we're helping to underwrite those multi million dollar contracts players command. and though i in no way begrudge professional athletes the earnings, protections and working conditions they've won thru collective bargaining, i am reminded by comments like j-roll that he (jimmy rollins) has poor memory. whether he has no institutional memory, or no individual memory matters little. about fan support, the man needs to be more careful about what he says. there is a helluva a lot of fan support. and as one reader aptly noted, being a playoff team, for the team we've been rooting for for the last three years, is not good enough. and when the offense goes south like it did in the last two games of the most recent homestand and the first three games in LA, any fan who is disappointed is justified, if he or she expresses that disappointment. to jimmy rollins: "fan dissatisfaction comes with the territory. you're in no position to complain about the character of fan interest and support. go put on your spikes and deliver."
Posted 12:56 PM, 08/14/2008
Phillymike77
Don't one of our teams have to actually WIN SOMETHING before we can be frontrunners?
Posted 12:53 PM, 08/14/2008
Rod72
I only boo for lack of effort such as the Jroll not running out a ground ball. He's making 8mil dollars a year that we as fans are paying for. We have earned that respect. If Jroll wants to get booed for being lazy he doesn't deserve our respect.
Posted 12:52 PM, 08/14/2008
Emarsh
I see a lot of negative comments about the Phils... there are many town criers here screaming about doom & gloom and have been for weeks, even when they were 4 up on the Marlins. There are still 40+ games on the schedule and I hear all you sissies "Screaming it's over, it's all over". Then go route for the Red Sox or Yankees or some other poser historic "winning club". BTW, they’re still in 1st. Either you’re a fan or not... PERIOD!
Posted 12:52 PM, 08/14/2008
latur99
Maybe St. Louis fans are so nice because they have won a world series within the last 2 1/2 decades.
Posted 12:52 PM, 08/14/2008
Mark1npt
Truth = Rollins.....we've been had bloggers!
Posted 12:51 PM, 08/14/2008
GANick
I suppose Rollins expects a standing ovation when they return from this dismal road trip. They have one more to lose tonight and don't be surprised if San Diego sweeps them.
Posted 12:51 PM, 08/14/2008
Bake McBride
JRoll's whole schtick has changed since Utley signed his contract.
Posted 12:51 PM, 08/14/2008
irishblizzix
Look, I was at Dodgers Stadium on Tuesday when the team was a complete embarrassment and essentially gave the Dodgers the game. Rollins wasn't in the parking lot as the Phillies fans were getting screamed at and in one case, a Phillies couple was surround by a mob of Dodgers fans getting taunted. Phillies fan will boo their home team if they are doing a completely terrible job. They deserve it.
Posted 12:50 PM, 08/14/2008
bark
Anyone agree that about 75% of the time, when an individual player is being booed, it's only about 25% or less of those in attendance? Meaning, the few-bad-apples cliche basically applies. And that when that same player does something well, or accidentally hits a HR, that the other 75% (or 100%) cheer far more loudly than the boos were? It goes to show that pro athletes are mostly spoiled brats who've been given everything in thei rlives, including constant puffing up, so when they fail, in their minds, it's not possible that they are at fault. Everyone says that Rollins has been acting like a prima donna all year long, this is just the latest example.
Posted 12:50 PM, 08/14/2008
ezd
I consider booing to be unsportsman like behavior. I think it makes fans look and sound like idiots, like they have no restraint, no class. As a spectator, athletics to me are all the same no matter what level- NCAA, pros, Olympic or a bunch of kids. As a fan you don't sit there on your rear and boo. That is just so ugly, as ugly as some unruly silly parents at a little league or pee wee football game who don't know how to behave. I don't care what the management decides they get paid. If you don't like what you are seeing or might see then don't buy a ticket. The chemistry for a world championship team is either there or isn't. Fans can't make that happen with booing so suck it up. Stop creating so much negative energy because that is all we're going to get back in return.
Posted 12:50 PM, 08/14/2008
neddyflanders
I'll never go to or watch another Phillues game until they trade this guy.
Posted 12:49 PM, 08/14/2008
rbecker1963
This is why I no longer go to games or buy merch. As long as all of the Suckers keep shelling out money, this is what's going to happen. It will not change until all of us (who Pay For Everything) say enough. Stop going. Stop paying $25 to park. $8 for beer. Bunch of suckers. I'd rather hear you scream rape.
Posted 12:48 PM, 08/14/2008
bpphilly
To all who defend J-Roll: If your kid was a straight A student for years, then began coming home with C's and D's and just didn't care, would you still cheer him? Or would you give him the kick in th a** that he needs? Sounds like there's a ton of terrible parents on here.
Posted 12:48 PM, 08/14/2008
emmcee
The truth hurts.
Posted 12:47 PM, 08/14/2008
Mark1npt
So funny.....just another athlete looking for a way to get out of Philly....he's clearly frustrated....probably at his own performance but I'll bet any amount of money, he's speaking out of frustration because he knows we (the organization) could have had Manny or other star players and we didn't get them....he's probably as let down as we the fans are, and he's letting it affect his interviews...bad move.....this could get ugly on the next homestand.... On a separate but still related matter.....Has anyone noticed the absence of the one called "Truth".....me thinks we've been had folks....Truth = Rollins? Just a thought.
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Posted 12:46 PM, 08/14/2008
Mark1npt
So funny.....just another athlete looking for a way to get out of Philly....he's clearly frustrated....probably at his own performance but I'll bet any amount of money, he's speaking out of frustration because he knows we (the organization) could have had Manny or other star players and we didn't get them....he's probably as let down as we the fans are, and he's letting it affect his interviews...bad move.....this could get ugly on the next homestand.... On a separate but still related matter.....Has anyone noticed the absence of the one called "Truth".....me thinks we've been had folks....Truth = Rollins? Just a thought.
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Posted 12:45 PM, 08/14/2008
Bigbadrookie
I think JRoll is correct and it starts from those radio talk show announcers who constantly bad mouth our players and coaches. Do you think the players don’t want to win? Do you think they feel good when they lose? It kills the players when they lose and our FANs add insult to injury when they Booo our players. Stop booing our players because they are over achievers. Ownership knew they needed starting pitching and they let Loche (Spelling) go to be a stud on another team. They also let Rowand and did not replace him with a stud offensive player. They want to succeed by subtracting rather than adding. The players are playing their hearts out, but they have limited tools to work with. How the heck can someone boooo Ryan Howard? I can’t understand that one...
Posted 12:45 PM, 08/14/2008
uncle meat
Why doesn't J-Roll ask Pat Burrell if we're front runners? I believe Burrell had a couple of rather bad years recently, but he never made excuses, and never put the fans down. So, he got our support while he worked through his slumps. Rollins, on the other hand, hasn't seen a pitch this year that he doesn't want to swing at, and now calls us "front runners" for getting on him! Rollins was NOT right and the posts here blasting him don't prove a THING, except for the fact that I now know I'm not alone in thinking he's an over-rated punk!
Posted 12:45 PM, 08/14/2008
PuPuMan
Maybe he should ask Brian Westbrook if he wants to know what "Pressure" is.
Posted 12:40 PM, 08/14/2008
AHiredGun
Fans have the right to boo, especially Phillie fans. For countless years, the team was appallingly bad, they own some of the worst chokes in history (1964, etc.), the fans pay too much just to see a game, and the players are WAY overpaid. Mr. Rollins, if it wasn't for the fans who make it possible for you to receive your millions, you'd be earning chump change like the rest of average Americans. You should get down on your knees and thank God for those fans, even if they do boo.
Posted 12:39 PM, 08/14/2008
randy_w
"i dont boo em for not havin a good game". So your thoughts on this West Coast trip? Whew... the Phils are just lucky that they weren't playing this series at home-- or Big Ben standing atop of City Hall would be complaining about the Boos echoing all the way up Broad Street. Could you imagine if the Phils weren't booed for this? Then Charlie and Front Office would actually think that everything is just fine... oh wait, they do anyway.
Posted 12:39 PM, 08/14/2008
jon7173
Hey J-Rol instead of doing a tv show (a bad one at that) why not worry about batting practice so you can learn to hit like a typical lead off guy, legging out grounders and making it to games on time!!! What did you hang out with manny and take notes on how to be jerk! Punch his ticket outa here while we can still get value for him...
Posted 12:39 PM, 08/14/2008
what is truth?
There are those who are so cynical that they boo just out of general frustration without considering the player as a human being who will fail. But most fans aren't like that. If a player does something stupid then they get booed - and should. It is one thing to physically fail, another to make a mistake out of inattentiveness or lack of understanding. They are paid too much to justify that. But otherwise it usually takes a series of failures, when at least SOMETIMES you should succeed that gets to most fans for most players. It isn't frontrunning - it is reaction to reasonable expectations. Unfortunately, and I guess this is only human, the players magnify the reaction from the minority of unreasonable fans. We expect them to ignore that. But can human beings do that? Money does not change basic human reactions. But players have to be able to let go of it, or it just gets worse.
Posted 12:39 PM, 08/14/2008
TBear
I have been to six games this year. Every single time Jimmy has come up to bat I have stood, applauded and said (Loudly!) to any/everybody within earshot: Jimmy Rollins, the reigning National Baseball League's Most Valuable Player....at one-hundred and fifty pounds! Never again.
Posted 12:37 PM, 08/14/2008
dksurf
All of you/us, including Rollins -- please read John621's post that appears at 11:48am above. If that doesn't make sense...well, time to "feel sorry" for any of you, again, including Rollins, that doesn't "get it."
Posted 12:35 PM, 08/14/2008
gimlethead
This dude needs a reality check. It is a privledge to play. Unfortunately only a few athletes get it. He's not one of them. As a fan we cannot change the business side of the game. As a player he can't either but getting upset at fans for thier patronage -good or bad is just wrong. Whatever happend to respect. he lost it from me. Go whine in another town that doesn't have half the passion as Philly.
Posted 12:34 PM, 08/14/2008
give me liberty or death
who cares, what he says, he can say philly is filled with losers and the dopes will continue to line up and give the worst professional franchise in the world their money
Posted 12:32 PM, 08/14/2008
acerulli
mets_collapse: it is a bad fan base because they are unhappy when the reigning MVP starts playing like Steve Jeltz, and being benched for a bad attitude? I suppose they would be a better fan base if they just stopped buying tickets and stopped caring when the team "leader" and "sparkplug" has clearly stopped caring. And people are not upset that Rollins said there are "some ugly fans" in Philly... they are upset because he unfairly generalized an entire city of people, and its surrounding suburbs, just as you and so many other ignorant blind sheep are doing.
Posted 12:31 PM, 08/14/2008
frontrunnerya
Well first I would hardly call it a Rip and secondly typical Philadelphia fans boo their kids when they don't do well. Rollins is right on. I would never want to play in this city if I had the choice.
Posted 12:29 PM, 08/14/2008
Wally Ritchie
At least I never got booed when I was here.
Posted 12:29 PM, 08/14/2008
I_HAVE_A_DREAM_AND_ITS_NOT_OBAMA
Grow up you moron!! You deserve to get boo'd when you make all the money you do and don't run out a fly ball!!!
Posted 12:28 PM, 08/14/2008
GANick
Before this punk calls out the fans, he needs to show that he cares. His lack of hustle and nonchalont attitude is just the opposite. I guess he expects people to pay for a bad product and this year, he is a bad product along with his team mates. I think Howard put his 10 million in food.
Posted 12:27 PM, 08/14/2008
I_HAVE_A_DREAM_AND_ITS_NOT_OBAMA
Grow up you moron!! You deserve to get boo'd when you make all the money you do and don't run out a fly ball!!!
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Posted 12:24 PM, 08/14/2008
Phils30
Frontrunners huh Jimmy? Well at least we're running. Not jogging like you in your mope mode after a pop out in the infield. Your not Howard, and you'll never have a year again like you did last year. Stop swinging in bad counts and get on base and the rest will fall into place. As for the fans we're the ones who made you J-Roll if you don't like us go to St Louis & play for that choke artist Larussa. The fans there don't boo because they think they are watching golf.
Posted 12:24 PM, 08/14/2008
lalaw9833
One of the reasons why we cannot win a championship in this city is the fans. When things are going bad - and even when they are good - we find a reasn to dig into our teams' and bash them like they have never won a game. The Eagles' have one of the best QB's in the history of the franchise and people still criticize him. The Phils' have suffered through an inept front office for years, but the players catch the brunt of the fnas' ire. All of the teams' in this city have suffered similar problems from cheap, slugfest owners, to lackluster rosters', and so forth. We need to stand behind our teams' - with a more positive attitude - or never, ever, see another championship in this town.....unless it's from the Soul, and that's not good enough!
Posted 12:23 PM, 08/14/2008
phillyfan412
To sptost: Why the should we support him? Because he ran his mouth (yet again) during a lackluster year in which he has been benched twice and has had a major attitude? We treated him like loyalty last year not only because he had a great year, but because he ran everything out and acted like a leader on and off the field. This year has been completely the opposite. Not only is he having a sub-par year but all of his antics are the real reason people aren't happy with him. He's been anything but a leader this year. He can't even ride on the freaking team bus. The most amazing thing about this is that the fans have actually been very easy on Jimmy this year. They haven't booed him as he comes up to the plate. Sure, he's heard it on a few occasions, but he's had it relatively quiet for all the stunts he's pulled. Well that is all about to change now. Jimmy, if you thought you had it bad before, wait 'till your next home game. And why don't you give a long hard thought on who exactly you're talking to. That's right, the people who are fans of a team with 1 championship in over 120 years. Fans of a team with one very short playoff appearance in 15 years. Fans of that same team who has the most losses of any professional sports franchise. Yes, those same fans that pay to pack the ballpark every single night to watch you and the rest of your underachieving team.
Posted 12:22 PM, 08/14/2008
TreeHaus
sptost "give the man some support." Are you series? This city has embraced Jroll and supported him perhaps more than eny other athlete in Philly over the last few years. We supported him with standing O's how many times last year during his MVP season? not just because he was playing great all around baseball but because of the way he played and approached each game. He had a confident, never say die attitude, that he brought to the ballpark and more importantly the home of every philly fan. Its not just production of a player that wins over philly fans its the passion and he just doesnt seem to have the same fire in his eyes this year and it shows.
Posted 12:22 PM, 08/14/2008
acerulli
Just Jimmy-Being-Manny. Apparently money does not buy effort, and effort, apparently, does not buy support.
Posted 12:20 PM, 08/14/2008
acerulli
"There's a segment of Philly fans that prides themselves on being obnoxious and then they get upset when someone calls them obnoxious." ... ... ... This is very true. These people are known as "Eagles fans". And when one of the other teams starts winning, they show up at those games and bring their obnoxious Eagle fandom with them.
Posted 12:20 PM, 08/14/2008
p-diddy
Jimmy Rollins gets paid millions of dollars to play baseball. He's an entertainer. Get a real job.
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Posted 12:19 PM, 08/14/2008
gee1971
Absolutely ridiculous. The franhise has won a single champioship in it's existence and that was 30 years ago. Since that time, we have endurered 3 decades of management focusing their effort on filling seats and not winning championships. Not sure why jimmy doesn't understand the fans of this city. He basically has gotten a free pass for a sub par season with only some token booing for not hustling and showing up late to games. He's in for it now.
Posted 12:18 PM, 08/14/2008
acerulli
SPrae58: You are so off-base. Burrell had one good year, then went into a 3 YEAR slump. Yet, for the first year and a half, this city supported him, cheered him, gave him a free pass because they saw the EFFORT he put into trying to break out of his slump. And if had been to a single game this year, you'd have seen that Burrell has been the MOST SUPPORTED player in the lineup all year, despite the fact he has not hit well at home. They have ADORED Burrell this year, because he is rewarding their LOYALTY all that time he was struggling and they laid off him, and his LOYALTY in not ripping the fans when they finally got too frustrated and started to ride him.
Posted 12:17 PM, 08/14/2008
goawayfavre
i cannot stand that we as philadelphia fans (yes I am proud to be among you) get wrapped up in silly statements like this one. was he wrong? probably. todd makes a fair and balanced case for both sides. my issue is this: why wasn't there this kind of outrage when your organization let manny ramirez slip right through their fingers. what jimmy says should have no bearing on his play. having jimmy backed up in the lineup by the best righthanded hitter in the last 20 years would have a bearing on his (and the whole team's) play. does anyone wonder why all of a sudden jeff kent looks 10 years younger? it's because he's seeing fastballs at the belt and he's raking them since no one in their right mind wants to face manny. that could have been in our lineup. picture it phillies fans: rollins, utley, ramirez, howard, burrell, victorino, coste and dobbs. by far the best lineup in the national league. probably in baseball. it could have been had for a song. we are outraged by a stupid comment. why aren't we outraged by this?????
Posted 12:15 PM, 08/14/2008
mets_collapse_is_funny_to_me
rollins is correct, philly fans are the most negative fans in the country. anyone who disagrees either hasn't left the city in their life, or you are an idiot. philly fans booed the 1981 phillies, the world champion phillies and now they want to boo the league mvp from the NL EAST Champs. So don't throw around this attitude that the phillies should win a championship if they don't want the attitude. every one of you loved when rollins opened his "big mouth" and told the world that the phillies were the team to beat in the NL, and now you hate on him when he opens his mouth and tells everyone that there are some ugly fans in philly. get over yourselves and support your team. and stop blaming this on a contract dispute, there is no contract dispute, he isn't asking for more money. stop making things up.
Posted 12:15 PM, 08/14/2008
GrownMan86
Like , This whole article and issue is a joke. It just gives some fans more reason to boo our players. Thats why we can not keep great players here because one bad anthting and we are ready to give them hell. Go Head Boo Jimmy and its not going to hurt him he is paid. The only people who are going to be hurt are the fans because you are hust proving his point. And Todd is a jerk for posting this article!
Posted 12:15 PM, 08/14/2008
STIII
LOL I agree Will.i.Am. This has become classic Philadelphia comical. A millionaire speaks his mind and the folks go nutz. The call to boycott the Phils is way overdue about 10yrs to late. Flyers have moved up for really trying to win value. For the other 3, tuned down the fire years ago. Life is meant to be enjoyed. Just think football seasons coming up fast. Oh goodie!!!!
Posted 12:15 PM, 08/14/2008
cupper
I watch Philly sports from a long way away: Nashvilee TN. Watching Sports Center every night the game isn't on locally waiting for the score. I am known at work as the crazy Philadelpia sports nut. I support them unconditionally when I could just as easily support the Titans or the Preds(I have lived in Nashville for 14 years) and I haven't lived in Philly for 37 years.I curse and boo the T.V. but then it's over. Tension and release. Perhaps Jroll was just releasing a little tension. go Eagles.
Posted 12:14 PM, 08/14/2008
MacMike
Philly fans relentlessly boo when things go wrong, hate their players for every perceived slight and call philly sports radio stations to vent their anger 24 hours a day. Retired players from Schmidt to Carlton to Cunningham to Barkley have nothing good to say and no love for the town. Number of Championships in last 25 years- zero. Coincidence? You decide.
Posted 12:13 PM, 08/14/2008
StefanDio
Rollins just doesn't get it. Booing doesn't mean we're 'against them.' It means we just want more out of them even though we are still for them; we still fill the park and support the team big time. Doesn't he realize he is playing for the "City of Brotherly Shove?"
Posted 12:12 PM, 08/14/2008
Steve Jeltz
What a horse's rear! He lucked out beating Holliday for MVP, who had a better year than him, swept the Phils and went to the WS. JRoll has been coasting on last year's MVP all season. Play for LaRussa if that's what you want.
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Posted 12:10 PM, 08/14/2008
doorspj24
There's a segment of Philly fans that prides themselves on being obnoxious and then they get upset when someone calls them obnoxious.
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Posted 12:10 PM, 08/14/2008
bigz
At the salaries Rollins & others are making (& increasing ticket & other stadium prices that are charged to PAY the salaries), of COURSE we have a RIGHT to be 'front-runner' fans. How does a supposedly unhurt player such as Rollins go into the 'dumper' so quickly? Hopefully they don't have the attitude of 'I've got my $$$, no matter what'.
Posted 12:10 PM, 08/14/2008
Bubba346
Mr. Zolecki . . . Thank you!! I remember!
Posted 12:09 PM, 08/14/2008
bigz
At the salaries Rollins & others are making (& increasing ticket & other stadium prices that are charged to PAY the salaries), of COURSE we have a RIGHT to be 'front-runner' fans. How does a supposedly unhurt player such as Rollins go into the 'dumper' so quickly? Hopefully they don't have the attitude of 'I've got my $$$, no matter what'.
Posted 12:08 PM, 08/14/2008
jeff gross
Rollins misses the point of Phila fans. While we care about winning, as long as our teams go out every day and give their all we back them and will bring down teh roof with cheers. See last years 76ers. They weren't great, but they tried and hustled and we loved them, even when they lost. If, however, you show up late, don't run out ground balls, and don't seem to care if you win, we will boo you every at bat even if you are the defending MVP
Posted 12:06 PM, 08/14/2008
blsbuster
Hey Jimmy don't forget that us frontrunners came to the game and pay your salary. Oh and we also have to hustle to make $40,000 yr and do not have the luxury to just jog out a ground ball to second.
Posted 12:04 PM, 08/14/2008
dollydimples
Hey Wil.i.Am and everyone else with the same opinion. I am a Philadelphia fan through and through. I grew up in South Philly and have watched the Phillies, Eagles, Sixers and Flyers my whole life. Guess what Rollins and anybody else who thinks like him and believes he is right - you know where you can go. As a Philadelphia fan and a sports fan in general, it is my right to boo if I want to whether they are in first place, tied for first place or out of the race period and I will do this whenever and whereever I please with a smile on my face!!!!!
Posted 12:04 PM, 08/14/2008
jeff gross
given that we have a SS in teh olympics, it won't kill anyone if Rollins takes his attitude to a diffferent city. At least the kid will try to win
Posted 12:03 PM, 08/14/2008
thebaron
Kinda tough to be considered "front-runner" Phillie fan when your team is the losingest franchise in all sports. The phillies have lost more games than any other team; more than 10,000 games. Mr. Rollins has been part of many of those loses. This ownership wants nothing to do with winning. They are in it for the cash and only the cash. Bill Giles, in an interview this past srping, said the franchise wants to be recognized for more than wins and loses. What else is there for a sports team? Fans have stuck by this year in and year out. We live off the glory of 1980 World Series. Our glory is 28 years old. We deserve more as loyal fans. Heck, Rollins has show this year he doesn't care. He had to be benched for lazyness. I'll suggest winning the MVP last year was the worst thing for him, cause apparently it has clouded his mind.
Posted 12:01 PM, 08/14/2008
caveman
Is Rollins trying to run himself out of town? First he gets benched for not hustling, then he gets scratched from a start because he was late to the park, Larry Anderson called him out on the radio broadcast last night for not putting in the extra effort to get out of the slump he's been in basically all year, and then he is going to turn around and call us frontrunners? Frontrunners would not be even going to the stadium, they would be somewhere else supporting a winning franchise if they were true frontrunners. Go play in Kansas City Jimmy then nobody will ever boo you because they don't care and you can be happy
Posted 12:01 PM, 08/14/2008
bpphilly
By the way: I'm a season ticket holder and have been for years, just so there's no "you're not a real fan" talk. I've been putting my money where my mouth is for years! Time for some of these sissy players to do the same!!
Posted 11:58 AM, 08/14/2008
heatmizer
Frontrunner? A frontrunner is someone who is only there when you're winning. Last time I remember the stadium is filled even after your many collapses! Even when you lose... we are still there. When you dont produce should we give you some cookies and warm milk? GET OVER IT! Give me the money you make and you can boo me off the field EVERY NIGHT! You want to say the fans are harsh, maybe brutal? THATS FINE. It seems to me I remember when Utley was in a 0-24 slump and what did the fans do? They gave him a standing ovation. Why? Because HE is a PLAYER! He puts it on the line ALL the time. And the fans are with him. This is about workmanship. Coste and Werth, these guys are under average players. They dont have the talent the rest of the players do. But they are players! We have spent money on players that simply DONT pan out. ITS A DISGRACE! Oh and Jimmy if you leave.... the fans will still be there the next night.
Posted 11:58 AM, 08/14/2008
bobby
I odn't boo. Never have booed. Just not my thing. But I have no problem with fans booing to express their dissatisfaction with a poor effort or performance. (I'm not talking about the "Hey Burrell, you suck!" crowd.) So if you're saying that fans should never boo, or get down on a team, then we just disagree. This town, for the most part, rewards effort and performance. When one of those (particularly effort) is lacking, the player will hear about it. What's the problem? In a post above, someone makes the claim that if Rollins gets hot and leads us to the playoffs again, everyone will love him. Um, yah. That's a no-brainer. I don't recall walking into work and hearing anyone say "Hey, did you see Jimmy last night??? He showed up late for the game. Then he got nailed not running out a pop-up. Then he said it was no big deal when Charlie sat him down. Man, he's awesome!" But guess what? When he was 4-for-4 the other night, people were talking about how Jimmy is back and this could be the turning point. How can you not see the difference?
Posted 11:57 AM, 08/14/2008
swiftbosox
Jay Ro has been my favorite Phillie for the last several seasons. and it is certainly unfortunate that being a great shortstop doesn't guarantee intellect. It was an unthoughtful and disloyal comment..you hustle Jim and improve your lead.off role and no body would be on your back. Phillie is a great baseball town, despite idiots like Cataldi and Eskin..perhaps Jayro is listening to IP..since he's not getting killed at the Park...Hey Pat the Bat was hammered for years and never whined like a brainless punk.Turn it around Jay Ro and be the leader you were last year....
Posted 11:56 AM, 08/14/2008
brettg
I am so sick and tired of hearing about the Utopia in St. Louis. Mr. Rolen headed there and look what happened. I am sensing a frustrated player, Rollins, is just venting, but does he really want a bunch of fans to sit on their hands when things go bad, and offer polite golf applause when things go well? Sorry, Jimmy, not all fans can be corn-fed zombies. And you saw, Jimmy, what happened last year. How were those crowds for you?
Posted 11:56 AM, 08/14/2008
bpphilly
SPTOST: He is the reigning MVP, but it seems to me and everyone else who has watched every game that he has taken it a bit easier this season and his non-schalant attitude doesn't fly in a working class city. Jimmy has been known his whole career in this town as a hustler, but where is that this season. When players don't live up to the hype (including their own) they don't deserve to be championed as the best around. What does it say about you and your leadership abilities when you drive solo to a game instead of riding with the team on the bus, and then show up late??? I'm a J-Roll fan, but this year's numbers don't lie...even taking into account his time off for injury, his numbers are drastically lower in all categories this year. Every single one of them! His comments were out of line. Name one city that has real fans who would be content with a player underperforming. You can't. Smart money keeps his mouth shut and answers diplomatically in that situation, as Ryan Howard did. Maybe J-Roll is taking a que from the Ricky Waters/T.O. book and is trying to grease the wheels so to speak. Simple solution: Play hard, 100%, b*lls to the wall every game, every day and win. You'll get your props, garuanteed. No one in their right mind cheers for a sub par effort, especially when it runs you a minimum of $150 to see it live. Get real pal.
Posted 11:55 AM, 08/14/2008
Flyguy12
What have you done for me lately Jimmy? When you back up your NL MVP w/.272 8 42 .339 .444, plus getting yanked out of the line up for breaking the only 2 rules there are what do you expect?
Posted 11:53 AM, 08/14/2008
philsrmyteam
I think what bothers me most about Jimmy's remarks is that it just sounds like he's making excuses. It's too easy to blame the fans when you can't figure out what's wrong with you. Or if you're trying to take the focus off of you("It's not me! They're doing it!")My children do the same thing. I would think that a professional athlete would understand that a fan is going to be vocal when you act like you're bigger than the game or when you play like a slug. I also wonder what else is going on in that locker room that seems to be affecting the whole team-not just one or two guys.They all are just dragging through these games like zombies.
Posted 11:53 AM, 08/14/2008
SPrae58
Not saying that I agree with what Rollins has said but I do not believe he meant it in a fully negative way. Philly fans have brought down and bad mouthed for years and there has been worse things said about us. If you take a step back and look at it he is right, if a player is at the top of their game we idolize and admire them and they are all over the place but once the have a slip up everything is down hill for them in the fans eyes. As i can recall Pat Burrell was once at the top of his game and a great player but there was a time when he was not doing so good and the fans were behing him but still bad mouthing him. Although he has upped his game more the fans are not behind him as much. At the same time Rollins should not be talking because the Phillies havent done much lately. They need to up their game some more.
Posted 11:50 AM, 08/14/2008
Bassplayer
I attended all three games of the the LA series so far and I have to comment that Jimmy's body language in the field tells me that he has an attitude problem. He has ole'd at least four balls that he could have have a play on, some in critical situations. Trade him now, while he's worth something!
Posted 11:49 AM, 08/14/2008
acerulli
"If we start hating players when they are in a slump or playing poorly for a week or two, where is our loyalty and enduring support?" ... ... ENOUGH ALREADY! Philly fans are hard, they are demanding, it's true. STOP defending Rollins, he DESERVES IT. They guy has dogged the entire season because he wants more money based on ONE CAREER YEAR. And he hasn't even really been booed yet. He has no justification for these comments (but it sure sounds as though he will soon). He is unhappy that he and Ryan Howard can't cash in on the franchise, and the fans are not giving them blind love to help pressure management into keeping them happy and signed long-term. IT IS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!
Posted 11:49 AM, 08/14/2008
whiplash240
Ha, front-runners. Thats great. Jimmy, thats the first time anyone has ever considered a philadelphia fan of being front-runners. Just want to throw this out there: When your at work and you screw up, show up late constantly, and dont get you work done on time, does your boss come to you and go "Don't worry about screwing up, or showing up late, thats ok. Get'em next time!" Then proceed to pat you on the back and cheer you on. If the answer is yes, you probably work at a failing company. So next time Jimmy, when you deposit you nice big check after going 0-4 and watch your average drop while your team also falls out of first place, think about the fans who just had to empty their wallet just to watch your pathetic play and your pathetic leadership. Just remember this, Philly fans want to see you succeed. We dont root for you to fail. When you succeed, we are there and when you fail, we are still there.
Posted 11:48 AM, 08/14/2008
John621
First, J-Roll needs to learn what a frontrunner is. I've followed this team for every game, every trade, every hopeful spring, every signing, and every collapse since 1960. And every one of my friends and relatives has done the same. We're not frontrunners; if we were the ball park would be empty. No, we are frustrated; just as frustrated as the players that they haven't done better. But we can't take extra batting practice, or smash a water cooler, or put a pitch behind someone's head. For us, the ONLY way we can express our frustration is to be vocal, at the park and on the blogs and on the talk shows...granted, some of it is nasty and inexcusable, but most of it is just venting...Hey, Jimmy, the Phillies are ours. You won't find more loyal fans, even in St. Louis "heaven."
Posted 11:45 AM, 08/14/2008
absolutqt
He's right.
Posted 11:43 AM, 08/14/2008
tyson987654321
Rollins is right. it's embarrassing how fickle Philadelphia fans are. If we start hating players when they are in a slump or playing poorly for a week or two, where is our loyalty and enduring support?
Posted 11:43 AM, 08/14/2008
stoky
My cousin Al purchased "Save-the-A's" tickets for us to attend the 1954 games. I KNOW LOSING both ball games and teams. It isn't that we boo a human mistake like booting a ground ball or even striking out swinging in a crucial situation. It is the lack of hustle..showing up late... throwing to the wrong base... standing there with the bases loaded and not getting your bat off your shoulders (as JR did recently..and I think on purpose as well) Not working the pitchers when they are getting themselves in trouble is another of my great peeves and gets my boo. Our club just doesn't understand the drama of situation baseball. They all think they can win it with one swing of the bat. Look, I know these guys are mostly not from the Philadelphia area... but when they are here they should not knock the city who loves them and supports them. Why couldn't JR say something like "man... I need to improve if we are going to win" .. he would have the city by the watermellons. It is simple ..really.
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Posted 11:42 AM, 08/14/2008
acerulli
"It should be a lesson when you see other teams being cheered at their stadiums even when they are suck." ... ... ... I have heard this garbage over and over and over, and yet there is NO EVIDENCE of it in the real world. I have baseball, football, and hockey games here and in numerous other cities, and I have NEVER seen a town cheer a crappy team. The best they can hope for is that no one shows up, which is what USUALLY happens when teams suck. No fans...NONE...blindly cheer lousy teams. It is an outright lie.
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Posted 11:41 AM, 08/14/2008
cake2025
The people who say we should not boo need a reality check. I'm a partial season ticket holder and I can't stand when the Phillies with the line up they have go through their slumps. It's my right as a fan and as an american to voice my opinion. I'm not going to sit through 23 scoreless innings, a poor west coast trip, and wasted chances to gain ground on the teams in the NL East without booing. To those fans who say its wrong to boo, I say you are living in a fantasy world where million dollar athletes get a that-a-boy every time they under perform. So, please do boo when you see Jimmy next because you and him are not living in the real world and do not understand Philly fans.
Posted 11:38 AM, 08/14/2008
acerulli
It is a simlpe mathematical formula in this town: Work hard + play right = adulation ... ... ... show up late + play poorly + don't hustle = vilification. That is the way it works, and it is not going to change any time soon. Rollins inciting more of it is not going to solve anything, and every one else getting all fussed about it is only going to lend credence to his comments. And let us not be snowed in here, either... this has nothnig to do with fan support, on-field play, or wins and losses... ROLLINS WANTS MORE MONEY, and they are not giving it to him, so he is trying to get traded. J-Roll is no more, say hello to MANNY-Roll.
Posted 11:35 AM, 08/14/2008
dlscholt
Yeah, he's rich. Yeah, he gets adored everywhere he goes. Yeah, he's a prima donna. But sptost is right. I've watched the Phillies in several other parks, and (with the exception of NY) they're all supportive of the home team, regardless of whther they're in 1st or ast place. Whatever the reason, Philly fans are harder on the home team than most others. Wish he hadn't said it, though. It will just make feelings harder between the boo-birds and jroll.
Posted 11:32 AM, 08/14/2008
corporatehuman
I'm a big Phillies fan and I completely agree with J-Roll. It's pathetic how Phildelphia sports fans turn on their team so quickly. It should be a lesson when you see other teams being cheered at their stadiums even when they are suck. I love that Philadelphia sports fans take NO responsibility for how they support their teams. Do you wonder WHY there has been no championship? Fans ARE an equation into any game. You know, the -sixth- man. Fans are more important than they realize, and when they turn players against them they only end up hurting themselves. And besides all that, none of that beer guts in the seats could swing a whiffle bat. I'm waiting for a championship like anyone else, but I'm not going to whine and moan when it doesn't come. I don't go to the games and boo my own team. Come on what's wrong with you people?
Posted 11:32 AM, 08/14/2008
s
I'm a little disappointed in J-Roll this year but he has some points and Todd hit it pretty good. As fans go, I say there's Philly, New York, and Boston fans then there's the rest. It's tied to passion for and knowledge of the game, as well as to past pain.
Posted 11:31 AM, 08/14/2008
doo dah man
I love that he said "can't be no punk in philly." So, what he is saying is that that is somehow bad. He would rather be where he can be a punk and no one will care. I suspect, however, that Jimmy won't get his wish. THere's no way the organization trades him. He is just going to get booed mercilessly for years. Good job squandering all that good will, Jimmy. Looks like Rowand should have gotten half of that MVP award last year b/c it doesn't look like Jimmy is too interested in or able to motivate himself. That's a real shame, b/c he showed last year what he can do. Unfortunately, we've seen a lot more of the 2008-type Rollins than the 2007. It's really a shame. Athletes sure do make it hard to cheer for them, don't they? Does everyone else lose more and more interest in our athletes every year?
Posted 11:28 AM, 08/14/2008
GOdouble
Very well said, Todd.... Agree with you on all accounts. I just hope this doesn't blow up into a big T.O. type of mess. Rollins should talk about this with McNabb. Donovon doesn't like Philly fans, but he keeps it under the radar just enough to not cause an issue.
Posted 11:21 AM, 08/14/2008
jeff gross
Rollins is correct that we praise when times are good and are REAL nasty when times are bad--we're fans. However, if any local team is hustling, giving their all and aren't god enough, they still get support--see last years 76ers. What we definately won't stand for is loud mouth lazy multi-millionair players raggin us because they can't run out a ground ball, or show up on time
Posted 11:18 AM, 08/14/2008
RDF
Todd--I can't find the quote...but within the last month, Jimmy Rollins was quoted in your paper after a loss, as saying something like the manager gets upset at these things, but the players know it's still early. I wish I had written him then - now I can't find the quote. Do you remember this? That is the moment I began to doubt his commitment to winning. We need Pete Rose attitudes on this team.
Posted 11:17 AM, 08/14/2008
Barndog
Jimmy needs to play ball and shut up! I didn't hear him crying last year when the fans were all yelling MVP to encourage the league to vote him in as MVP. If it isn't for us paying customers who pack the park every game he wouldn't get his 8 mil. We boo bad play not and the time they do something good we cheer . It's ok in NY but nowhere else...OK.
Posted 11:15 AM, 08/14/2008
Will.i.Am
Im glad one of the phillies finally spoke back to yall, i love all our phils, im an actual FAN, i dont boo em for not havin a good game, and only talk well about them when they win. Through thick and thin is a real fan, Rollins is right for what he said, and these comments everyone has stated over it PROVES his plea
Posted 11:10 AM, 08/14/2008
sptost
jroll is absolutely right. the people who are getting mad by his comments are probably the ones who he is directing them too. if your not one to boo your philly team than don't take offense to his comments. he's just generalizing. it pains me that philly sports fans are like this because i am one true and true. i'm born and raised in the philly area for 32 years and i'm a diehard fan but i'm smart enough to know that in general, we suck as fans. we hate on our team and they're coaches and players when they're bad and we love them when they're good. look at all the people posting comments here about jroll himself. this man is the reigning NL mvp and he's being hated on. now you all watch him get hot these last few months and lead us to the playoffs and everyone will be back on the jroll bandwagon. he's our most important player and we need him. give the man some support.
Posted 11:09 AM, 08/14/2008
wmiami
UH-OH is this the beginning of the I just can't play there with those fans, ( I'm too good for this market ), I wanna be traded train ? Well your right Jimmy we don't think tour as wonderful as you do and we never will.
Posted 11:05 AM, 08/14/2008
davemarsh
you couldnt have put that any better Todd. like you said, i can see where jimmy is coming from but i still dont think he should have said that. im not even close to a front runner but i still see his comment as a direct slap to the face of every fan who supports the Phils game in and game out no matter what.
Posted 11:02 AM, 08/14/2008
jimmymack
mike c: the club's advance ticket sale for the remaining games is so strong that I doubt we'll see a drop off in attendance. Bad news for Jimmy is if the town turns on him, he will really hear it for the rest of the year. If they tank, then all the players can blame us for no support and being front runners. Of course it will have nothing to do with the way they are playing. Curious to see if Monty & Co. will step up to fans defense or ignore it.
Posted 11:01 AM, 08/14/2008
jibberjabber
Whaaaa whaaaa whaaaaa.......CLASSIC overpaid whining athlete rhetoric......JROLL....next time you ground out with the tying run on second I'll stand up and applaud. Maybe I'll stand up and applaud next time you're late to the ball park cause "there were too many red lights." Maybe I'll stand up and applaud as you saunter down first cause you popped out again. JROLL......next time I applaud for you will be when we have a new shortstop who isn't an A$$..................... TIME TO SET UP THE PHILLIES TEE TIMES FOR OCTOBER. THIS SHIP AIN'T GOING ANYWHERE
Posted 10:58 AM, 08/14/2008
AugustWest
Hey Jimmy. How about running everything out and showing up on time and being a leader instead of a whiner for $8M a year. How about changing the "Everything is OK, we'll get started tomorrow" attitude I continually hear on almost every interview with you and Shane and Ryan. How about Ryan Howard stop waving at pitches and become a real hitter and maybe make a sharp play at frst base once in a while? ow about that?
Posted 10:56 AM, 08/14/2008
unknownblogger
There was a time when you took the subway to go to the game you may see one of the players on the subway with you. Now it's too much the othere way. Not all but most athletes today are spoiled brats that need every one around them to kiss their behinds including their superiors.
Posted 10:55 AM, 08/14/2008
WildBill
yet another overpaid DUMB professional athlete - if he has half a brain then he clearly wants to get traded - boycott the Phillies!!!
Posted 10:40 AM, 08/14/2008
mike c
Well the way this west coast trip is going, the fans won't be front runners for long.... so let's see if the fans still fill the ballpark when the Phils fall from 1st this week.
Posted 10:17 AM, 08/14/2008
sixtoe
Most professional-level athletes are coddled from the day they step into high school. They're constantly being told how good they are by teammates, coaches, family, friends, teachers, college recruiters, and the media. For some, it stunts their sense of self, and when they're finally booed after "making it," it affects them very deeply. When you've been told every day for a decade that you're a star, how can the case possibly be otherwise? Fans must be wrong.
Posted 10:11 AM, 08/14/2008
bobby
I'm not sure exactly what is behind Jimmy's comments. He's really gotten treated very well in this town on the whole. So to come out with this statement now seems to me to be a conscious attempt to stir things up. Why do that? I can only think that it's to try and get the wheels in motion for a trade, which could eventually lead to a new contract. Hard to believe that winning the MVP may have been the worst thing for this guy. He was a lot better when he was trying to prove himself.
Posted 09:56 AM, 08/14/2008
giamatt
I never boo when it's not warranted. I hate booing for no reason, but sometimes the players have to understand that the fans get frustrated. When someone k's with the bases loaded, it's frustrating! We don't hate players (well, most) but I think it's right to boo a lack of effort. Maybe we would be more like Cardinals' fans if we had double-digit world championships. I do think that sometimes people in this town can be unreasonable, but they're usually the idiot types to begin with. The funny thing is, J-Roll would seem to be the guy that doesn't get that treatment.
Posted 09:29 AM, 08/14/2008
arrivaderci656
jrol is absolutely right that philly fans are front runners, but its the same in several other cities as well. fans boo when players are doing poorly, they cheer when they are doin well- if you disagree with that assessment of phillies fans, I don't know what you hear when you go to the ballpark. rollins is never going to have a repeat of his mvp season, he is just an above average hitting shortstop- there's no reason to get rid of him though, unless someone better shows up on the market.
Posted 08:56 AM, 08/14/2008
mondonj
Sorry but i will state it again, i never liked j-roll. Always thought he was whinny, boo-hoo i make 8mil a year and the people who make 40k a year and come out and see me go 0-4 boo. Get over it ya cry baby!!! He wants a new contract so trade him to someone and let bruntlett play.
Posted 08:47 AM, 08/14/2008
jimmymack
I'm sure so many of us have sarcastic comments to make concerning Mr. Rollins comments, but I think Todd nailed it (except for the booed at home, even though they are winning..the way they have played at home the last month and a half deserves boo's). Players don't get it, never have, never will. But I am sure of one thing, he thinks he has heard booing, wait until he gets home. Looks like he wants out so see ya Jimmy. I'm sure Amaro or Arbuckle will get some washed up, non performing player in return.
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Andy Martino is in his first season on the Phillies beat. A former New York City public school teacher and graduate of the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism, he previously wrote for the New York Daily News, where he covered baseball and worked with the award-winning investigative sports "I-team."