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Thoughts on Martinez and Lopez

A few things before I check out of the Residence Inn and head down to the ballpark here in Clearwater. . .

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Thoughts on Martinez and Lopez

POSTED: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 10:45 AM

A few things before I check out of the Residence Inn and head down to the ballpark here in Clearwater. . .

1) The more I examine the situation, the more I believe the Martinez signing borders on a no-brainer. According to my calculations, the Phillies have guaranteed Martinez just over $885,000 for the rest of the season. So, essentially, that's the money they are risking. Everything after that comes in the form of incentives, which are presumably structured so that, if reached, they pay for themselves in the form of performance. Granted, it is easy for me to spend other people's money. But it sure seems like $885,000 isn't a whole lot to gamble. Especially if Martinez makes his major league debut in a mid-week game at home that wasn't previously sold out (I don't care how old the guy is -- his debut will be sold out).

The one unquantifiable concern that filled the airwaves in the build-up to his signing concerned his personality. As my colleague Sam Donnellon put it on Daily News Live, the Phillies clubhouse is very egalitarian. While there are plenty of stars on the roster, there aren't a whole lot of superstars. Ryan Howard is the most down-to-earth $18-million-a-year player I have met. Chase Utley would rather be pelted with rocks than bask in his celebrity status. And it wouldn't surprise me if the only two people who can get Raul Ibanez to talk about himself are his wife and Harvey Dorfman. I'm not saying there are no egos in the clubhouse - this is baseball, afterall, where a certain degree of narcisism is needed to survive. But aside from starting pitching, team chemistry was the biggest factor in the Phillies' World Series run last season.

Well, nothing I have seen out of Pedro Martinez thus far suggests that he will rock the sturdy boat that is the Phillies' clubhouse. Sure, it is early, and he is still very much in a honeymoon stage. But two instances yesterday gave me a good glimpse at Martinez the man. When he arrived at Bright House Field, a small group of autograph seekers awaited him. Instead of taking a back route to the stadium, he walked right toward them, chatting them up and signing their keep sakes. Later that afternoon, as he was dressing to leave, he sat with a Phillies minor leaguer and talked to him at length about the trials and tribulations of professional baseball. In neither instance was Martinez aware that there was a member of the media nearby. When he arrived at the park, I was sitting in my car watching the scene unfold from a distance. In the clubhouse, I was in another corner, talking to some Threshers personnel behind a row of make-shift lockers.

I'm a firm believer that true character is revealed only when no one is looking.

2) Most people assume that because I am the beat writer for the Phillies, I root for them to win. They do not understand when I swear that is not the case. Don't get me wrong - I like to see the teams I cover have success. I cover sports because I enjoy watching athletic performance at the highest level. But I don't have Phillies pennants hanging in my room. What I will admit is that I find myself pulling for certain individuals. It is only human. While part of the intrigue of covering sports is seeing how various human emotions reveal themselves in defeat, deep down inside you enjoy when certain guys succeed. The Phillies have a lot of these guys, and Rodrigo Lopez is becoming one of them. Out of baseball for two years, back at the big leagues at 33 years old, the likely lame duck in the rotation, it is tough not to enjoy what he has done in his last three outings.

Here is a stat for you: Since Pedro Martinez's physical, Phillies starters have allowed two runs in 25 innings.

3) Pedro Martinez is scheduled to throw a simulated game in about an hour. Stay tuned for updates.
 

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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:59 PM, 07/21/2009
    I liked the dig at Rollins without you ever mentioning his name (Deniability). Even from overseas you can tell that the players are decent down to earth guys. The expressions on their faces, and some of their crazy actions (door to door to win an on line vote for all star game, Jenkin's over the top happiness after his pinch hit double in game 5, Utley's World F#cking Champions, and Boo ME, F You) show their true spirit. I, too like Lopez, just not sure he will stcik. He's out of options and will get picked up. Another thing I like about this team. The front office is decent with their players allowing and helping them to move on if needed (Coste, Paulino, and others who they moved to give them a chance to get to or stay in teh big leagues. That's why we're champs, cause we give 100% to players and get 110% in return
    fan_in_jerusalem
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:04 PM, 07/21/2009
    I remember some of the local sports reporters/broadcasters hinting how miserable it could be to cover the '93 team. By comparison, Dave, this current group must be relatively pleasant to be around. Question: when Rollins decides not to talk, do you get the sense that he's being difficult, or just trying to avoid what he perceives as a distraction?
    1980
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:05 PM, 07/21/2009
    Murph is high on cheese.
    T3rdEyevisual
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:09 PM, 07/21/2009
    "this team has no personality, they won the world series but the 1993 team is still more beloved"? Speak for yourself, Scooter. Define personality. If your definition or personality is a group of malcontents who do steroids, drink and drive, smash up automobiles and are still looking for the Mothership in the case of Darren Daulton, then fine. This team has no personality. But my definiton of "personality" is a group of guys who play the game well, recognizes that they're playing for one of the toughest (and sometimes most ridiculous) fan bases in sports, and still manages to have fun. I make sure that I'm in front of the television every time the Phillies play because the guys on this team are guys that I wouldn't mind inviting to my family cookout because they've managed to be interesting people without accumulating arrest records in the process. If that's not your kind of "personality", sorry. But it works for me.
    Raiderfan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:11 PM, 07/21/2009
    Real fans root for all of the local teams. If Jack the actor was a true L.A. fan he would have a L.A. cap on at the Phillies game and not a N.Y. cap.
    mungman
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:15 PM, 07/21/2009
    Scooter- the 93 team might be more beloved, but they didn't bring me a championship, nor did the 2001 sixers, the 97, 87, or 85 flyers, the 2004 eagles, etc, etc. The 2008 Phils are the champs and thats all that matters
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:18 PM, 07/21/2009
    Question for you Murph... If in Pedro's first 3 starts he goes 2-0 with a 2.60 ERA, averages 6 IP, 5 hits, 4 Ks, 2 walks and holds opponents to a .246 average, wouldn't we all be lauding the signing as a huge success? Poor Rodrigo Lopez (those are his stats).... Guy's done a good job.
    phila20fan
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:26 PM, 07/21/2009
    Details have come out on Pedro's contract. "Pedro Martinez's Philadelphia Phillies deal was just filed, and it pays him $2 million prorated (or about $1 million), plus incentives that could pay him several hundred thousand more. He is to receive $75,000 for each game from games six through 10 and $100,000 for each game from games 11 through 15, and a bunch more in the way of incentives and awards bonuses. Here's what else: $50,000 for 10 relief appearances; $50,000 for 15 relief app.; $50,000 for 20 relief app.; $50,000 for 25 relief app.; $75,000 for 50 innings, $125,000 for 75 innings, $175,000 for 100 innings. Plus, he gets $100,000 World Series MVP, $50,000 for LCS MVP, $100,000 for Cy Young ($75,000-2nd; $50,000-3rd); $25,000 for Gold Glove; $100,000 for Comeback Player of the Year. Plus, for each day on the active roster (not including DL): $50,000 for 15 days; $50,000 for 30 days; $50,000 for 45 days; $50,000 for 60 days; $50,000 for 75 days." Most interesting part of that for me is the incentive for relief appearances...
    ChrisInVT
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:28 PM, 07/21/2009
    Don't be surprized if Lopez is included in a deal this week. The Phillies are class enough to care about player's futures and with no options (they cant send him back to minors) they will deal him if they think they cant keep him with the team
    fan_in_jerusalem
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:30 PM, 07/21/2009
    Be real Murph...We know u have Phils boxers and Utley feety PJ's...
    Living_Legend
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:33 PM, 07/21/2009
    Lopez will not be included in any trades this week...He has no trade value. He's 33 years old and was out of baseball for 2 years before this season. He has zero trade value to anyone...The Phils will keep him in the 5th slot until Pedro's ready to take a turn (if he ever is).
    ChrisInVT
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:59 PM, 07/21/2009
    Nice post. Great observations. I think Pedro would be great in the bullpen as a step guy.
    76er
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:59 PM, 07/21/2009
    Chris, if those stats on Pedros contract are correct a lot of it is just media hype. There is no way he wins Cy Young or Comeback player of year with just a half of a year on the team. So you can throw out all those bonuses. Also I doubt be can make some of the "Time on roster" incentives due to how many days are left in season. In other words, they wanted to be able to announce a large number regardless of relevency. It's like saying we'll pay Howard $50 million for each game he gets a save in.
    fan_in_jerusalem
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:01 PM, 07/21/2009
    Maybe he doesn't root for the Phils, but the Inq/DN editorial staff and news reporters sure root for their 0bamassiah...
    fafafooey


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