The Untouchables: Start with Drabek
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The Untouchables: Start with Drabek
David Murphy, Daily News Staff Writer
Just got back upstairs to the press box from an interesting hour, during which general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. and manager Charlie Manuel both addressed the media.
The dominant topic, of course, was the trade market, specifically Roy Halladay. Amaro does not address specific trade possibilities, so most of the questions were phrased in a general sort of way. Like, "Let's say there was a pitcher available, and let's say he was about 6-foot-6, threw the ball right-handed, and won the Cy Young in 2003. . ."
But Amaro and Manuel both shed some light on the organization's tack right now. The most interesting thing to come out of the news conferences was the fact that Kyle Drabek is apparently not going anywhere, even if Cy Young himself descends from the heavens as the result of God looking to shed a little payroll.
Amaro did not mention Drabek by name, but did say there are some players in the Phillies system whom he would not trade, regardless of circumstances. And Manuel said that he himself would not trade Drabek.
"There are some untouchables in our system," Amaro said. "We feel that we are building a pretty strong farm system. I think Marti's done a pretty nice job in that regard and our player development people have done a good job of developing, especially this year, it's gone really well, which puts us in a decent position (in the trade market). That said, we have to be prudent about what our future is about. It is important to win now, and we understand the importance of that. But that said, there are players that we would like to keep for our future and I would say that they are not untouchable as others."
Asked if there were players whom he would not trade under any circumstance, Amaro replied "There are."
Manuel was asked if there were any minor leaguers that he would not trade, even if it meant sacrificing some immediate gains on the big league club.
He said yes. Kyle Drabek, the 21-year-old righthander currently tearing up Double-A.
"It'd be tough for me to trade Drabek," Manuel said. "I like Drabek because he's strong in his legs and his hips and he's a drop and drive kind of pitcher. I'm not a pitching coach but I like his mechanics and I like where he comes from and he's a strong-bodied kid, like Tom Seaver type or a Bartolo Colon, and he's got that kind of stuff. And he's young, and I think he has a big upside to him."
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Amaro declined to discuss specifics about the Phillies' scouting of Pedro Martinez.
Here is what he did say:
"We did see Pedro. I really don't want to comment much about it, other than we are trying to do what we can to add to our club and if we feel at the end of the day that Pedro is going to help us, then we'll make a run at him."
And if they are considering Pedro, they are doing so as a starter. That's not big news, but Martinez did begin his career as an electric set-up man, so I figured it was worth asking.
That's not even a picture of Drabek.....geez, get it together.— LF- i don't see a deal for halladay getting done without drabek. you think the jays would go for knapp, carassco, brown and donald? that would seem to be the best we would offer, assuming that there is someone else amaro feels is untouchable (taylor?)— djacobs5582
- Dave - you're electric. Boogie woogie woogie.— Clearly Ambiguous
- Carlos Carrasco, Jason Donald and Lou Marson should be offered for Roy Halladay, but a trade would presumably need at least one more piece unless Toronto would accept John Mayberry & Kyle Kendrick. too. I'd rather move Victorino before Happ, Drabek, Knapp, Brown or Taylor. PS: This would never happen, but I'd move Carrasco, Mayberry & Rollins to Atlanta for Javier Vasquez, Yunel Esccobar and Matt Diaz. Still don't like the Jaramillo trade for Taschner (via Ronnie Paulino).— bacbank
- Love to keep Brown, but if you could keep Drabek, Taylor, I'd liking part with Knapp, Carassco, Brown and Donald.— 76er
- Moving Victornio is interesting. Taylor could come up and Werth goes to center. If that is your Major League ready player, give the Jays Donald, Carassco, Brown and either Carpenter or Vance Worley.— 76er
- Drabek, Brown, Taylor, and Donald. That's the package that one speculator summed for Holliday. Might as well throw in Happ and Mayberry, because that's the farm, fellas.— trungy
Comment removed.- Donald , marson, Happ, Carrasco should be plenty to get Halladay. That will give them a SS that will fit in with toronto, and Happ, who is already pitching in the Majors. Lets make it happen : #1- Halladay, #2- Hamels, #3- Blanton, #4 Lopez, (until Myers is back), #5 Pedro Martinez, now that spells, REPEAT!— Will.i.Am
- moving victorino is stupid IMO.— z03mbm
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- The question that needs to be asked is this; with the nucleus or our club getting older (most approaching 30, if not already 30 or older), is it worthwhile to possibly mortgage the future by trading unproven prospects in a trade in an attempt to build a dynasty right now by obtaining a proven, legitimate # 1 pitcher, maybe the #1 pitcher in all of the majors? Obviously, you can tell I think so.— Reddgie Noble
- Who says we have to give 4 or 5 players for this guy? When did you all become MLB GMs? Do any of you have a clue about negotiating? You must all be typical Philly Democrats, lining up to give away other people's assets. Gillick and Rube must be laughing uncontrollably at all your suggestions. What a joke!— Mark1npt
- man its ROY HALLADAY! who knows what's going to happen when rollins,howard,utley and hamels deals are up in the next 2,3,4 years, go for it now!— wearethechampions
- PS...I love Halladay, not in the Biblical sense, but he WAS a CY Young winner....6 years ago. That's a long time ago in pitcher years. He would definitely upgrade our staff, but his best years are probably behind him. You never mortgage the farm for past performance.— Mark1npt
