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Report: Pence deal to Giants 'in place'

KPIX, a television station in San Francisco, is reporting that the Giants "have a deal in place" for Phillies outfielder Hunter Pence. However, Giants vice president Bobby Evans said in a text message that there's "no truth to the rumor" the Giants have a deal in place for Pence.

99 comments

Report: Pence deal to Giants 'in place'

POSTED: Monday, July 30, 2012, 7:54 AM

Which players should the Phillies deal before Tuesday's 4 p.m. trade deadline?
Juan Pierre
Jonathan Papelbon
Hunter Pence
Cliff Lee
Shane Victorino
Ty Wigginton
Joe Blanton
Jimmy Rollins
Placido Polanco
Laynce Nix
Chase Utley
Keep the players. Get rid of Manuel or Amaro!

KPIX, a  television station in San Francisco, is reporting that the Giants "have a deal in place" for Phillies outfielder Hunter Pence. Giants vice president Bobby Evans reportedly denied the report in a text message, saying that there's "no truth to the rumor."

But sources tell Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com that, although no agreeement has been reached, the Giants and the Phillies are indeed discussing a deal.

Pence, 30, is hitting .268 with 17 home runs and 59 RBI. Should there be a trade, the Phillies could bring up Domonic Brown from the minor leagues.

The Phillies are expected to become sellers after a weekend sweep at the hands of the Atlanta Braves effectively eliminated them from playoff contention. The MLB trade deadline is 4 p.m. Tuesday.



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Comments  (99)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:29 AM, 07/30/2012
    Trade J-Stroll first. Then we can get rid of Wiggy, Vic, Kratz, Polanco and Blanton.
    wo_fat
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:37 AM, 07/30/2012
    PaulSoTex, the Phillies need to get young players, not Michael Young. He's 35 years old making $16 millions a year. He has another year in his contract. He's also having his worst year since 2002, hitting .269 with 3 HR and an OPS under .700. He has split most of his game between DH (43) and 1B (32).
    EL Zorro
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:38 AM, 07/30/2012
    Pence was a good piece to add last year, when our aces were actually pitching like aces and our offense was woeful. He made a difference. This year, his offense has been pretty good but he obviously has flaws in the field. So, I'm with the post-ers who say his arbitration salary for 2013 is too high. We could bring in a Cody Ross type for probably half what Pence would get.
    eman
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:43 AM, 07/30/2012
    The Phillies front office should refund to all season ticket holders the value of this season's remaining home game tickets.
    delval
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:37 AM, 07/30/2012
    Go root for the Mets or Mets then, who wants you here anyway
    TexasYankee
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:44 AM, 07/30/2012
    I would gut the whole outfield for 2013. I love Hunter Pence's effort, but he has been far from reliable in right field. You could probably live with his outfield blunders and bad hitting approach if Utley and Howard were in their primes. Shane Victorino gave the Phillies some great years. He has done a great deal of charity work for the city, as well. But for some reason, he has been a shell of his former self in 2012. Maybe no extension from Amaro? Victorino has had a pretty good stretch here of late going, with the bat. John Mayberry Jr. is a player that many Phillies fans had hoped, was closer to the abilities of Jayson Werth rather than Ben Francisco. Mayberry is a fringe AAA/MLB ball player. His lack of desire is puzzling. Amaro and Manuel promised the fans new found patience at the plate for this season. It turns out that you can't teach old dogs(Rollins, Victorino, Pence) new tricks.
    FreeCable4Ever
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:45 AM, 07/30/2012
    Well it is that time of year all the talk about who is going and who is coming... Well if they trade Hunter and do not get at least what they traded to get him in value than we really got screwed over all. Blanton, Victorino, Pierrce out of the three get a relief pitcher who is stable and will help out for a few years. Also sorry but Iwould move Utely tio the AL there has to be a team that could use a part time 2nd baseman DH. Heck if you can get rid of Howard then I would dot hat too. the amount of $$ saved would allow this team to rebuild quicly and with good players. So nowwe wait and see if we get anything good in any trades we make shame Ed Wade isn't a GM some place....lol
    srcdaddy1216
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:53 AM, 07/30/2012
    friedmozzarella- I totally agree. Great run that Phils had, time to start rebuilding.
    mrjarn
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:53 AM, 07/30/2012
    Realistically no one wants Halladay, Howard, Utley, Papelbon, Rollins, Lee or Hamels at the prices they are being paid...who else are we supposed to trade again? That is 125 million locked up for next year already. The pitchers might bounce back, but the hitters are aging and shot. Well played Bobo the talking basset hound.
    lazyboy
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:13 AM, 07/30/2012
    Pence has issues with his madman swing but you can count on him to be on the field everyday. Unlike Polanco, Rollins, Howard and Utley. Howard absolutely must go to the AL as a DH and Utley too if he can't play a full season in the field. Utley would make a great part time player and DH on rest days. He has American League value.
    Lets Eat
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:21 AM, 07/30/2012
    Say what you want about Pence and all the hitters, but the big pitching rotation is what killed us this year. They let us down big time! We would be right in this thing if our supposed aces held their own.
    Mr. Underhill
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:24 AM, 07/30/2012
    Of all the deals the Phils made the past few years, the biggest loss of prospects may end up being the Pence deal, especially now considering the return on that trade. Hopefully, they end up with a couple top prospects in a deal for Pence.
    Romus has some great ideas but not sure if they can get both of those guys for Pence but that would be a best case scenario for the team, including Lee for Olt.
    NMPartners
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:26 AM, 07/30/2012
    They have to figure out the solution at 3B as the OF free agent market has more players so they can address the OF by a free agent. It appears to me that they have three options in regards to 3B, keep Polanco for next year, bring up someone from the minors (Asche), or trade for a young 3B (like Olt). Maybe they trade Lee for a package of Olt and others, maybe they don't, maybe Texas won't do that. I believe that they have to keep Lee. Next season could be Halladay's last so they will need Lee for 2014 to go with Hamels and the young kids (Worley, Cloyd, May, Pettibone, etc).
    Yes, the phillies have a lot of payroll tied up for 2013 already. Yes, this means that they will have to rely on a lot of minimum salary guys (Worley, Cloyd as starters, Schwimmer, Stutes, DeFratus, etc in the bullpen) to fill out the roster for next year.
    Another thing to consider is if the OF in 2013 would be better with Mayberry, Brown and Pence, or Mayberry, Bourn, Brown. You could substitute another FA center fielder in there (Upton, Cabrera) but the point is the same they need to figure out if they would rather have a FA center fielder or stick with Pence. Another point to trading Pence is that his cap hit of probably around $4 mil for the rest of the season would help tremendously in getting under the luxury tax for this year so they could go over it in 2013.
    sjuhawk416
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:07 AM, 07/30/2012
    There's no way they should keep Polanco. Even as a bench player he's too old and too injury prone. I don't see Asche coming up next year. Lee might get them Olt. If so, you have to listen to that deal no matter how you feel about Lee. They can cut payroll pretty easily. Just getting Polanco, Blanton, Victorino or Pence and Contreras off the books frees up a decent amount of money. The bigger problem is they have a lot of guys locked in to contracts (for example the whole infield other than 3B) which limits the changes they can make without trading. They could try moving a guy to 3B but that seems like a long shot to succeed. The FA market is often overpaid and too old. Trades and a good farm system are the way to get younger. So for the Phillies it's trades.
    s


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