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How long will the Phillies stick with Raul?

POSTED: Sunday, April 24, 2011, 1:52 PM
Raul Ibanez is hitless in his last 18 at-bats. (David M Warren/Staff Photographer)

Raul Ibanez is struggling. He is hitless in his last 18 plate appearances, and is batting just .187/.265/.253 overall. Against lefties, he is 3-for-21 with nine strikeouts and a walk. Understandably, Charlie Manuel is giving Ibanez the day off today against lefty Wade LeBlanc. John Mayberry Jr. is in the line-up. For now, it is just a day off.

That's the short term. But the long-term picture is a lot hazier.

Last year, the Phillies were extremely patient with him, and their patience made sense. Ibanez was coming off serious abdominal surgery. He had experienced similar slow starts before. Although he wasn't driving the ball, he was making contact and reaching base. The Phillies still owed him $11.5 million for 2011. And, perhaps more than anything, Domonic Brown had yet to play a full season above Class A. All things considered, the potential benefits of letting Ibanez battle through his struggles were greater than the cost of benching him.

This year, though, the Phillies might have a shorter leash with their veteran lefty:

1) For starters, Ibanez's spot in the order is no longer a secondary option for production. Last year at this time, Ibanez was still surrounded by Chase Utley and Jayson Werth, in addition to Ryan Howard. They could afford to have their left fielder struggle. This year, though, the Phillies need to find a way to fill the power and on base percentage they are missing with Werth and Utley out of the line-up. They haven't scored more than four runs in 12 consecutive games. The Phillies are 14-6 compared to 11-9 last season, but their offensive numbers are down across the board:

  2011 2010
Runs/Game 4.6 5.3
Batting Average .260 .269
On Base Percentage .322 .345
Slugging Percentage .379 .431
Home Runs/Game 0.8 1.0
Record 14-6 11-9

2) Unlike last season, when Ibanez walked 14 times against 15 strikeouts in his first 81 plate appearances, the veteran left fielder has just seven walks against 22 strikeouts in 83 plate appearances. His numbers are well down from even a year ago:

  Ibanez First 20 Games in 2011 Ibanez First 20 Games in 2010
BA/OBP/SLG .187/.265/.253 .219/.346/.689
Plate appearances 83 81
Strikeouts 22 15
Walks 7 14
Extra Base Hits 3 6

3) The biggest difference between this year and last year, other than Ibanez's supporting cast, might be the options the Phillies have behind him. Mayberry has hit well in limited action this season. He is in the line-up today. He still has a lot to prove with regards to his capability in a regular role. But Domonic Brown is also working his way back from hand surgery. The top prospect figures to have a lot of catching up to do to make up for the at-bats he lost during spring training. He is expected to begin a rehab assignment by the end of the week, and it is a huge stretch to think that he would be able to jump right into the fray and be a productive major leaguer. But as soon as he starts playing regularly at Triple-A, you can bet the Phillies will be watching him closely. Maybe the Phillies continue to win games at a blazing clip. Maybe the rotation continues to dominate even as the schedule gets tougher. Of the 20 games they have played thus far, only two have come against a team with a winning record. Up next are the woeful Diamondbacks and Mets. By the end of the month, they will have played just six games against teams who finished 2010 with winning records, and only three against a playoff team.

The Phillies' May schedule features a 20-game stretch against teams who either finished 2010 with a winning record or currently have a winning record: the Braves, the Marlins, the Braves, the Cardinals, the Rockies, the Rangers, and the Reds. Thirteen of those game are against playoff teams from a year ago.

The Phillies will have a strong chance in most of those games thanks to their rotation. But if they hit a skid like they did last season, they might decide it is finally time to see what Brown can do with an everyday job in the big leagues.

It is important to keep in mind that it is still early, that Ibanez is in great physical condition for a 39-year-old, that he has had a history of epic slumps followed by sizzling tears. But the Phillies also have plenty of reasons to afford him a shorter leash than the one they kept him on last season. A lot hinges on how Brown bounces back from his nearly two-month layoff. If the Phillies decide it is time to get him into the line-up on a regular basis, they could slide Ben Francisco over to left field to platoon with Ibanez, with Mayberry spelling Brown against tough lefties. Or vice versa.

Here's the line-up:

  1. Shane Victorino CF
  2. Placido Polanco 3B
  3. Jimmy Rollins SS
  4. Ryan Howard 1B
  5. Ben Francisco RF
  6. John Mayberry Jr. LF
  7. Carlos Ruiz C
  8. Michael Martinez 2B
  9. Roy Halladay RHP
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Comments  (42)
  • 1 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:18 PM, 04/24/2011
    Raul is not a product of steroids. He has a reputation around baseball for being a workhorse. One of the hardest working guys in baseball. Problem is no matter how hard you work sometimes its not enough He's a product of being 39yrs old for God sake. He's done. He should be sitting and Mayberry should be playing every day
    philliekev04
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:42 PM, 04/24/2011
    I agree! Because a guy is struggling it is not a reason to tarnish a rep of a guy who has been nothing but a class act his whole career. Some fans just don't get it and love to put people down because it just feels good
    pattymac3
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:40 PM, 04/24/2011
    But yet everbody says he's a "professional hitter"
    Hiding Behind My Keyboard
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:12 PM, 04/24/2011
    I thought today was Easter, not Jump Off the Bandwagon Day. The person who claims Rauuuuul is a product of 'roids should be ashamed.
    NewMick314
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:18 PM, 04/24/2011
    I hope they stick with him a lot longer. Better to slump at the beginning of the season then at the end of it. We should be thankful that the GM erred on the side of pitching. At least Raul is having a better start than Werth. BTW wait till someone is NOT on our team before name calling; if you must name call.
    charladan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:27 PM, 04/24/2011
    I'd give him some more time to come around. Early on he was getting some clutch 2 out hits --- frankly we need more of that. Let's continue to work Mayberry in to relieve Ibanez and Francisco and see where Brown is at mid-year. Hopefully by then Utley is back and you can drop Martinez and use the spot in order to keep 5 outfielders (Shane, Raul, Franciso, Brown, Mayberry). (I dont count Gload as an outfielder -- he is a pitching hitting specialist)
    Chicago_Phils_Fan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:25 PM, 04/24/2011
    When you have a car that doesn't run anymore, you get rid of it.
    n62
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:12 AM, 04/25/2011
    This is why I was hoping the Phils would release or trade Ibanez to free up money for Werth. I think his time is past. But since that wasn't to be, let's hope the notorious slow starts level out by June.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:34 PM, 04/25/2011
    Baseball contracts are guaranteed. He still gets paid if we release him. To trade him, someone either has to want to pay him or we still pay a big part of his contract. That's why it's not as easy as the "get rid of this guy" approach that so many posters advocate. Payroll isn't unlimited and teams can't afford to be paying guys that aren't playing.
    s
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:18 AM, 04/25/2011
    I guarantee that the Phillies WILL score more than 4 runs in a game again this season.
    SteveS11
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:54 AM, 04/25/2011
    sad to think that ibanez' 11.5 million salary this year contributed to the decision not to re-sign werth
    zwarte piet
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:09 AM, 04/25/2011
    Stay with the guy. He's been an historically slow starter. He'll come around. My God, if Philly fans and sportswriters don't have something to whine about, the world is not turning on its axis.

    David Murphy is a certifiable drama queen.
    EPC FAN
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:55 AM, 04/25/2011
    As pointed out, Raul is toast. He either finds that magiacal bottle of "elixer" he used his first year in town or he sits. While I'm not fond of Mayberry, he actually makes a little more contact than Raul. Time to package a deal to Texas for Michael Young. Agree with the analysis of the May schedule, it's brutal and a real test for this team. We might be back to the "Whitey" scenario where the pitcher throws a shutout and hits a homerun, Phils win 1-0!
    GG--please teach Victorino and Rollins plate discipline. When Rollins sees the batter in front of him walk on four straight pitches, why does he swing at the first pitch and pop out to the shortstop????
    mad2002mad
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:56 AM, 04/25/2011
    Ibanez is a streak hitter almost to the Burrell extreme. He was on fire in March, when we didn't want him to be, and now he's struggling. Put me down as predicting he'll have a big May and his season-ending numbers will be a lot like last year's -- not bad.
    eman


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