Phillies make Pineiro signing official
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Phillies make Pineiro signing official
Daily News staff
The Phillies officially announced the signing of righthander Joel Pineiro to a minor league contract with an invitation to spring training.
Piñeiro, 33, went 7-7 with a 5.13 ERA in 27 games (24 starts) for the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim last year. In 20 of those starts, he was 7-4 with a 3.84 ERA.
Piñeiro tied for the ninth-most ground-ball double-plays (23) among American League starting pitchers.
In 335 career major league games (263 starts), Piñeiro has gone 104-93 with a 4.41 ERA and 15 complete games for the Seattle Mariners (2000-06), Boston Red Sox (2007), St. Louis Cardinals (2007-09) and the Angels (2010-11).
Piñeiro is the 16th non-roster invitee to major league spring training for the Phillies, the team said.
inconsequential deal-- problem is NOT that they got Pineiro (or Willis for that matter)..problem is what they did NOT do -- all these meaningless bullpen and bench deals for low-cost garbage generally result in useless garbage (see,e.g. Baez, Schneider, Bruntlett, Herdon, Gload, etc) and Amaro has still failed to improve offense, bench and bullpen in 3 1/2 yrs - an intelligent g.m. does NOT max out his budget by putting ALL his pitching budget into a single overrated and overpaid closer and 2 great starters (cole will walk) but instead gets multiple quality relivers .. an intelligent g.m. does not put all his "offense" budget into a non-slugging so-called slugging 1st baseman with the rest of the offensive positions at best avg or below avg offensively and then can't afford a decent hitting 3rd baseman or any real quality on the bench.. a team can get to the post-season just on the strength of its starting pitching but the Amaro method is 0 for 3 in October and the numbers are unlikley to improve as the team is actually getting worse---meanwhile Amaro has squandered the Phils quality prospcts in his reckless manner of overspending for a few players, trading away all his prospects, while neglecting depth, balance, bench and bullpen, etc and the proof is in the pudding: and old team that has never won squat and has a meager future warbiscuit
Could not have said it any better. It seems like Amaro is stuck somewhere between negligent trophy hunting and Bean style bargain basement junk players. He gets a few big names by trading away the nuclear core of their original farm prospects then supplements the holes by acquiring junk journeymen who nobody else wants. His methodology is at minimum a gamble and at maximum a disastrous approach to building a championship team. Either way, the Phils will continue to jog up a down escalator as long as they keep Cholly the Chimp. daystrum- This comment has been deleted.
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right on the money! daystrum
It's raining, and Biscuit is on the warpath. Watch it now, watch it now.....
WB: you obviously lost out on the Amaro pictures raffle, so this constant public flogging of him is your payback. While I might give you that some is true, or at least factual (sometimes they aren't the same), the constant tar and feathering isn't making any progress, anywhere.
So propose an alternative? Who might you prefer in RAJ's seat? Who might do all the things you wanted him to do? Who in God's name will given WB peace on the baseball home front? Please, do tell. 24sDad
low risk, high reward jamarder
Warbiscuit and daystrum might be happier as Nationals fans? You know, the team that threw gobs of money Jayson Werth and finished a mere 21.5 games behind the Phillies. A lot of folks predict the Nats and Marlins will make a run this year and maybe they will. If I had to bet $1,000 on which team will win the NL East, though, I'd pick us. Secretly, I suspect Warbiscuit and daystrum would, too.
eman- Pineiro's signing has nothing to do with upgrading the offense. It's all about pitching depth. You can never have too much pitching. I once lived in Seattle. I watched Pineiro. He can pitch and he's a tough competitor. He's got a Phillies mindset. He's got some years on him so he's not a starter anymore. But he might be a guy you can call upon in the 6th or 7th and get you an inning or two. Injuries happen. Depth matters. Signing Pineiro to a minor league contract doesn't keep Amaro from doing something else for the offense. If Pineiro never sees the mound in Philly, so be it. Nothing lost. But he wouldn't be the first guy to turn from a starter into a good middle innings guy for two or three years at the end of his career. All upside. No down side. And no effect on anything else that Amaro might want to do.
Hey Biscuit Brain Go root for someone else. Copying and pasting the same rant on every article, regardless of the subject, doesn't cut it. Mets sure could use someone on their sites even if you do say the same thing every time. cuyatm
In the days of Wade and Amaro my impression were that they were cut from the same cloth: uninspired baseball men looking round the baseball scrap heaps for a warm body. I was wrong. Amaro comes across as a man who recognizes the window of oppourtunity this current team presents. The biggest crime would be for him to sit back and do nothing while other teams would win Halladay, Lee, Papelbon. Other GM's in our sorry past would have seen the likes of Howard, Rollins and Utley leave at free agency; with those players knowing this organization was not interested in fielding a winning team. Even our beloved Pat Gillick had some clunkers there while trying to fine tune this current team...........Let's face it, there are posters around who like to cry about Amaro, about Sheridan, about Hoffman, about anything only they know about. In the sorry history of this franchise we need to enjoy this run while it's here. Tomorrow comes a lot quicker these days..... DelawareRiverRat
24s - re: wb - do you really care what he proposes? How 'bout if you stick to your usual acute sense of what's going on - good & bad - you make for far better reading than him? As soon as I see the name, I skip to the next posting. Don't waste your time. I don't. dwp66
Agree with "eman", Warwhatever & daystrum should probably go follow some other team and take your negative attitude with you. phillyjim7
Boys, just trying to attempt a 'smokin' him out of his (fox)hole.' Kaboom!
But I will take your fine advice and stick to the principles of my New Year's resolutions. Thank you. 24sDad
The guy is a groundball machine...the pitching equivalent of Wilson Valdez.....we lost Madson, his changeup and his groundball ratio. Might we see Pineiro groomed to take the place of a Chad Durbin or 8th inning Madson when a DP is really needed in a tight ballgame? I don't necessarily think they signed him to be a starter. Time will tell, but it's a low risk potential high reward move. The kind Gillick liked, too. Mark1npt


