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Pence deal: Future is now

POSTED: Saturday, July 30, 2011, 12:07 AM

When Joe Klein was farm director of the Texas Rangers, he was called out of a staff meeting one spring training evening in 1982 and given a heads-up. The team was about to announce that two of the system’s best young pitching prospects, Ron Darling and Walt Terrell, were being traded to the Mets for veteran outfielder Lee Mazzilli.

Klein, livid, returned to the conference room. “This meeting is [bleeping] over,” he told the stunned aides, slamming his fist on the desk before heading straight to the bar to quench his hot anger with a few cold beers.

If the Phillies development people have similar reactions when they see their best and brightest bundled up and shipped out of town, they keep it to themselves. Or maybe they’ve just gotten used to it by now.

General manager Ruben Amaro Jr. announced the latest future-is-now deal moments after the Phillies beat the Pirates last night, making official what has been rumored for days.

The Phillies are getting All-Star outfielder Hunter Pence from the Astros plus $1 million in cash.

The Astros are getting four minor leaguers including a pair that have the potential to cause real remorse in a few years: Righthander Jarred Cosart and first baseman Jonathan Singleton. The Phillies also agreed to throw in righthander Josh Zeid and a player to be named later.

(Klein’s unhappiness, by the way, turned out to be well-founded. Mazzilli, who never wanted to leave New York, was traded to the Yankees before the season ended. Darling and Terrell went on to combine for 247 big league wins. A Rangers team with hopes of contending ended up losing 98 games.)

Amaro conceded up front that he had paid dearly. But the reality is that he had little choice.

The Phillies have a $175 million payroll and the best record in baseball. They also got a rude reminder of how vulnerable their lineup can be when Matt Cain and Tim Lincecum of the Giants thoroughly dominated them Wednesday and Thursday nights. They didn’t score an earned run in either of those games.

The reality is that the Phillies lineup, as it existed, was flawed. It was too lefthanded. It sorely lacked the righthanded bat that’s been missing ever since Jayson Werth departed for free-agent riches in Washington.

Pence can be that bat. He increases the chances that the Phillies will be able to cash in on one of the remaining years in their window of opportunity.

Domonic Brown might be someday. John Mayberry Jr. might be someday.

Pence is right now and that makes all the difference.

No, he may not be the kind of hitter that will force teams to pitch to Ryan Howard. But as his 62 RBI this season attest, he is the sort of hitter who has a knack for driving in runs if teams pitch around Howard to get to him.

Pence isn’t perfect. He doesn’t have the kind of power teams ideally like in corner outfielders. But he’s an all-out player who should be popular with the fans. He will help Howard but, more importantly, he will help put the slugging first baseman into a position where he can help himself.

One of the most impressive things about Howard on his way toward winning the Most Valuable Player Award in 2006 was his ability and willingness not to swing at pitches he didn’t want to swing at. He was willing to take a walk and he took them a lot, 108 of them, one for every 5.38 at bats.

That ratio has been steadily dropping ever since. Last year he walked once for every 9.32 at bats. That’s probably understandable. After signing his big contract extension, it would be only natural for him to feel the need to take the team on his shoulders.

Howard has been more patient this year, with a walk for every 7.8 ABs so far, and the acquisition of Pence should only help that. If it makes him more comfortable to let the hitter behind him take care of business, that will also be a benefit.

It will also allow manager Charlie Manuel to achieve the balance in his lineup that he talks about so often.

There is absolutely a risk here, but that won’t come into play for at least a couple years. Besides, you can say whatever you want about Amaro, but he isn’t afraid to aim high. And if there’s another parade down Broad Street late in October, will anybody really care about all those chickens that might someday come home to roost?

The Phillies want to win now.

They’ve put themselves in a position where they almost have to win now.

And Hunter Pence improves the odds.

It’s said that a starting pitcher’s job is to give his team a chance to win. The same could be said about a general manager.

Now it’s up to the players.


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Comments  (66)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:28 AM, 07/30/2011
    Amen. They have the bat they were looking for and I think it will make a big difference to the offense. Roy is on the way back also which makes them all the more formidable. I like the Phils chances this year. They are solid in all areas. I am looking forward to this fall.
    JimSeitz
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:40 AM, 08/02/2011
    I agree Jim. This article must of been penned by Captain Obvious. With a pitching staff that is the best in 20 years and the core of the team all in their 30's and holding the best record in the majors right now. What do we care about some prospects in the Minors right now? If we stink in 10 years but have won 2 or 3 World Series, I think most fans can live with that!
    PhillyJimi
  • 2 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:30 AM, 07/30/2011
    in 6-8 years they can trade some other minor leaguers for singleton and cossart,...
    Theo1980
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:37 PM, 07/30/2011
    Yes, the two were highly rated by some sort of scouting combine or the like, but high rankings are far from a guarantee of making it to the big leagues, even less a guarantee of being a star of any magnitude! I have seen four "can't miss" players come up in my lifetime. The first was Del Ennis, and my grandfather (a player in his younger days) told me he would be a star--he was. Dick Allen, and I decided he'd be a star based on his entire being and attitude--he was. Ken Griffey, Jr. was tagged can't miss, and he didn't, only being slowed down by injuries as he went along. Alex Gonzalez was the fourth, and if he is, we'll never know how much was A-rod and how much was A-roid.
    BEMiller
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:33 AM, 07/30/2011
    say what you want but this was a smart gamble, and better than renting beltran
    ChampAnderson
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:40 PM, 07/30/2011
    Actually, this really isn't a gamble at all. Hunter Pence is not going to get worse, all of a sudden. Though I might only say RAJ may have given a bit too much for him, the gamble is really on the Houston Astronautical's side of the equation. They are getting the guys who are some years away from being able to make it in the big leagues!
    BEMiller
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:21 PM, 07/31/2011
    Two points, one Beltran is 2-17 since joining the Giants and two, with yesterdays loss, Atlanta now also has 10,000 losses as a franchise. Both stats mean nothing but they are interesting. You wont find either widely published like when they rubbed the Phils noses in their 10,000 th loss. It would be nice if the Phils had the propaganda mechanism like the Yanks, Cards and Braves do.It amazes me how little national in depth coverage the Phils get unless it is some record breaking accomplishment like a no hitter. How about 39 Year Old Iban~ez Rallies Baseballs Best Team or Howard Reaches 1000 Hit Milestone or Howard Halfway to Micheal Jack Hr Record. film at Eleven. I guess I'm Dreaming we save those big headlines for dog killers, people who shoot themselves, Brett Favre and fat Redskin defensive linemen.


    DUDESKINS
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:52 AM, 07/30/2011
    I hope the player to be named later is not Vance Worley. Yes, trading prospects for a good, but not great player is a risk. But, suffering through another post season loss to the Giants is inimical. We didn't give up Mayberry or Brown. That's positive. With Ibanez on the way out, the Phillies should do okay.
    VANDERGRAAFK
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:20 AM, 07/30/2011
    I think Amaro gave a list of Class A players to Ed Wade to choose from. Then they will go over the scouting reports and pick one.
    krupps58
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:41 PM, 07/30/2011
    One way it sometimes works, sometimes they just don't want to announce who it is just yet. Won't be VW, however!
    BEMiller
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:53 AM, 07/30/2011
    And there's no guarantee that A players become major league players. Good move!
    VicM
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:12 AM, 07/30/2011
    It seems as if every writer in town is trying to downgrade Pence just a touch to deflect the pressure that they feel will be heaped upon Pence by the fans...That's part of pro sports..Pence is a gamer and will be up to the task....We got a good player now to compliment the reat of the lineup...Let's get the train rollin!
    bearsfriend
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:13 AM, 07/30/2011
    I dig it
    Mo Biggsley
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:13 AM, 07/30/2011
    its world series or bust! bottom line period.
    Phillies are the worst team in the majors when they dont hit anf the best team when they do hit.
    San fran shut them down again. i dont like that, it worries me.
    u canr ride the pitchers like we are there gonna be burnt out
    tucole
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:15 AM, 07/30/2011
    Singleton and Cosart are both 3 levels away from the bigs...Barring injury, they'll both make it to the show...Good deal Ruben!
    bearsfriend


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