Posted: Wednesday, September 9, 2009, 5:42 PM | 11 comments |
 
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Charlie Manuel addressed the media an hour ago. As expected, the topic of conversation centered around Brad Lidge, whom Manuel removed from the game with the bases loaded and the ninth inning last night.

Is Lidge still the Phillies' closer?

"I'm going to sit down somewhere along the way and talk to him and whatever," Manuel said. "I'm getting kind of tired of it if you want to know the truth, really. I am. And the reason is, I figure I can put him in the game when I want to. I've been very loyal to him and stuck with him and I've done everything I think possible to get him going. There's no way I ever want to lie to him. Like I told you last night, I don't do that, and I don't have a history of doing that. But at the same time, we're going to win the game. And the best way to win the game, and that includes Brad is not out there to close, then I guess that's going to be my decision. Now, we are going to play to win the game. Our team is definitely not about the one guy. And I'm sure he feels that way. It's very important that we get him straight and right, but at the same time we're going to play to win the game."

It's pretty easy to read in between the lines there. But keep in mind that there is no rule that requires Manuel to designate a "closer." It isn't a quarterback or a starting pitcher. In the end, the Phillies' closer is whoever Manuel calls upon in the ninth inning of a tight game. Last night, Lidge got the first whack at it, but Madson ended up being the closer.

Remember last season, when Ryan Madson pitched his way into the eighth inning down the stretch? At no time did Manuel announce that Madson was his set-up man. He proved capable of the job, and ended up pitching the eighth inning in the playoffs. There's a good chance you won't know who the Phillies closer is until the ninth inning each night. Manuel did not rule out Lidge as a possibility in the team's next save situation. But he didn't rule out Madson and Myers either.

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Scott Eyre will see team doctor Michael Ciccotti tomorrow, at which point the Phillies should learn more about the source of his elbow pain and how long he might be sidelined for.

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Manuel said that he was leaning toward starting Pedro Martinez in the nightcap of Sunday's doubleheader against the Mets, and that Kendrick was a strong possibility for the first game. Jamie Moyer will likely pitch Saturday in place of J.A. Happ, who will miss the start with a mild muscle strain in his rib cage.

Pitching coach Rich Dubee all but dismissed the idea of starting Cliff Lee on short rest in the doubleheader. He called the chances of such a move "minor."

Unless something unexpected occurs, it looks like Kendrick will get his first meaningful big league start since late last season on Sunday.

Posted by David Murphy @ 5:42 PM  Permalink | 11 comments
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:08 PM, 09/09/2009
    FINALLY!!! Manuel is seeing the light that we have all been seeing. Like Howard, Madson has a history of stepping up late in the season. I, for one, would not hold his poor closing performances in June against him right now. He should be the closer. He has better stuff than Lidge or Meyers and I know that he's hungry. He wants to someday make what Lidge is making now.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:08 PM, 09/09/2009
    I applaud Charlie's loyalty to his players ... I suppose that's why they all love playing for him ... But I'm sure even he's tired of answering questions about Lidge ... It was the only logical conclusion he could possibly make ... Better late than never.
    PhightinPhil
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:11 PM, 09/09/2009
    Let's not forget, Bubba ... Madson blew a save just two weeks ago in Pittsburgh ... He has the best "stuff" of anyone in the bullpen, possibly the entire staff ... But as we've learned with Lidge, it is what's between the ears that matters most.
    PhightinPhil
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:14 PM, 09/09/2009
    It will be intresting to see if Kyle has anything. He never looked major league to me but it would be nice to see if he's learned anything this past season. Maybe he can pick up another pitch this off-season and compete somewhere for a major league job. He was great for us last year when we were really desperate for an extra arm. Good luck Kyle!!
    brickhead
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:39 PM, 09/09/2009
    they should start drew carpenter instead of kendrick, carpenter has much more upside and hes had the better year at LV, kendrick being the with the team right now makes zero sense, the guy isn't a major leaguer
    robm0202
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:46 PM, 09/09/2009
    2 run Madson's problems arise from too much usage. His arm doesn't seem to bounce back from day after day usage like a real closer's would have too...and let's not forget that even though he has nasty stuff, it is what's between the ears that matters for a good closer. He's failed miserably at auditions for the part in the past. Maybe this time is different? If not, Myers should salivate at the chance to be this year's savior and close out another WS clinching victory. It truly is the type of high ignition moment his little brain lives for.
    Mark1npt
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:46 PM, 09/09/2009
    2 run Madson's problems arise from too much usage. His arm doesn't seem to bounce back from day after day usage like a real closer's would have too...and let's not forget that even though he has nasty stuff, it is what's between the ears that matters for a good closer. He's failed miserably at auditions for the part in the past. Maybe this time is different? If not, Myers should salivate at the chance to be this year's savior and close out another WS clinching victory. It truly is the type of high ignition moment his little brain lives for.
    Mark1npt
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:39 PM, 09/09/2009
    I think Charlie is starting to understand that the team as a whole played tight, trying to get that extra run or not let anymore runs get in, knowing that Lidge was coming in. Plays in the heads of the other guys also.
    romanT
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:40 PM, 09/09/2009
    how can a first place team get out hit and out executed by the worst team in the league?
    scootch
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:41 PM, 09/09/2009
    DR, the fav lefty did not surface, but a win is a win.
    mick314


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About David Murphy
David Murphy joined the Daily News as its Phillies beat writer in February of 2008. Born in Upper Merion and raised in the Poconos, he attended college at La Salle University before taking jobs with the Myrtle Beach (S.C.) Sun-News and the St. Petersburg ( Fla. ) Times. E-mail Dave at dmurphy@phillynews.com.

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