Madson still believes Phillies made offer
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Madson still believes Phillies made offer
David Murphy, Daily News Staff Writer
We'll probably never know for sure what, exactly, went down between the Phillies and Scott Boras this offseason. As you probably remember, long-time set-up man Ryan Madson had been under the impression that Boras and general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. were closing in on a deal worth $44 million over four years when the Phillies announced that they had signed Jonathan Papelbon to a four-year, $50 million contract.
Boras believed that Amaro had verbally offered the deal, and Madson had decided to accept. But no offer was ever put into writing. Amaro, for his part, denies that the Phillies ever made an offer.
Now, Madson is in Cincinnati after having signed a one-year, $8.5 million deal with the Reds. He will be a free agent again after this season. The veteran righthander recently told CBSSports.com that he still believes the two sides had a verbal agreement.
"I can't prove it. But I do believe it," Madson said. Boras has '"been in the business for 20 years and it's never happened before.'' Madson also pointed out that Boras would have nothing to gain by concocting an offer that never happened.
Madons also said that he has moved on.
"I'm actually glad I'm here," he said. "It's been a nice change so far. I'm really not looking back. I wouldn't have changed it for the world. It is what it is. Everything happens for a reason. You can't make plans. Only one person can make plans.''
And he does not appear at all distracted by what happened, or did not happen.
"There's a handful of theories,'' he said. "I never figured it out. But it became pretty obvious they wanted to go in a different direction. So I just moved on to see who else was interested. Thankfully, the Reds came into the picture.''
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What did Ms MadDog say ?— NewMick314- He 'believes' Boras had an offer from Phillies.
He 'can't' prove it.
But he 'believes' Boras 'has been in the biz 20 years and it 'never' happened before.
But he 'has moved on.'
He does not appear to be 'distracted' by what happened or did not happen.
REALLY?
His blind faith in Boras is surprising given the reputation of the agent = dope.
Mrs. Mad Dog's blind faith in her husband is likely unqualified = duped.
TRUST BUT VERIFY.
Now, can we all just move on from this non-story. He's in Cinn, we have Papelbon, and until Madson wins the Cy Young (unlikely), and Pap'bon goes down on DL (never know), this exchange is likely better for the Phils and worth the extra $6M than the alleged verbal deal that may or may not have existed and evaporated. If I see another article on this the rest of the summer I will throw up.— 24sDad - Also, start showing him in a Cincinnati uniform. He is no longer a Phil. He's a Redleg.
— 24sDad - If I were a betting man, I would conjecture that the Phils were talking to Mad Dog and Papelbon simultaneously. Verbal offers were made to both with no one expecting Papelbon to accept. He did so RAJ had to back out of the verbal deal with Mad Dog and Boras. Now Amaro conveniently says there was no offer. A lot of writers have picked the Reds for the NL Central- in part because of the addition of Madson to their bullpen.— pajamas
- The first part is right.
The second is unlikely.
— 24sDad - Has he ever thought that maybe his agent worked the Phillies to see what they would pay him and take it back to the other player he was repping and asked that player if he'd take that kind of money????? Cause I bet Bora's went back to Pap' and asked him the Phillies were willing to pay Madson that money and he could get another year out of them.— DocPhillyfan
- Doc,
Isn't Pap repped by the Levinson Brothers?— johnny eagle - I thought after madson accepted their 1 year offer, they signed him to a 3 year extension. I believe they did, am i wrong here? doesn't matter anyway, but would like to know.
— marks22 - love how all of the sudden this is the kennedy assassination. they signed a better guy for comparable money, get over it.— snakeplissken
- Superagent!— ACBaughman
- I believe that there was just a breakdown in communication between Boras and RAJ.— PortCity
- How many cliches can he say in one statement? Lets count: "1. I'm not really looking back. 2. I wouldn't have changed it for the world. 3. It is what it is. 4. Everything happens for a reason. 5. You can't make plans (?). 6. Only one person can make plans (?)." Sounds to me that if he wasn't looking back, then he wouldn't still be talking about it. He's not happy and for some reason he isn't (publicly) placing the blame on his agent.— Penfold18
- Sure the Phillies made an ' offer ' , but with Boras you Never put it in writing , that way he can't go and ' shop it ' around the league ... that's what he's all about , pitting one offer against another , getting the most money , well the phillies weren't playing that game ...— ingy9
- Penfold18 , Madson was only talking about it , because the ' reporter ; asked him questions ,, Mad Dog's a pretty good guy , he was just answering questions ,, dufus !— ingy9
- Ingy9:
Even when asked a question, you can decline to answer it with "I've moved on." Idiot.— Penfold18
