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Lefties: Who is available? Plus Howard/Pujols (Updated)

POSTED: Monday, March 15, 2010, 8:32 AM

Even though the Phillies have dispelled the rumor, would you trade Ryan Howard for Albert Pujols?
Yes.
No.

In today's Daily News, Paul Hagen takes a look at the unsettled situation in the Phillies bullpen, where over the past few days young lefthanders Antonio Bastardo and Sergio Escalona have each experienced Grapefruit League hiccups. Bastardo is the clear frontrunner for an Opening Day roster spot, but pitching coach Rich Dubee didn't exactly sound thrilled with the situation when Hagen talked to him yesterday. It is too early to start scrambling for alternatives -- I didn't think Bastardo pitched as bad as his numbers indicated on Saturday -- but the Phillies are certainly monitoring the situation closely. As we've pointed out several times this offseason, the free agent market isn't stocked with Rolaids Relief Man candidates. At this point, there are three lefties available on the market who could fit with the Phillies. Former Royals lefty Ron Mahay would be my leading candidate to join the team, if they decide to go that route, followed by former Rockies Alan Embree and Joe Beimel.

Mahay - The Phillies have expressed cursory interest in the 39-year-old veteran over the past couple of seasons. And after posting a 4.79 ERA and 1.790 WHIP for the Royals, who released him in August, he might be forced to settle for a minor league deal. Mahay has appeared in the playoffs just once in his 13-year-career -- this year with the Twins, who signed him after his release from KC.

Beimel - Solid ERA (3.17) and manageable WHIP (1.361) over last five seasons,  but he has never been great against lefties, and just doesn't seem to fit with what the Phillies are looking for.

Embree - At 39 years old, he struggled for the Rockies last season. Has held lefties to a career .239 average.

The Phillies are in a tough situation. They have no idea how successful Romero will be with his comeback from elbow surgery. In an ideal world, they'd be able to evaluate Bastardo over the first month or so of the regular season. But if they decide Bastardo isn't ready even to make the Opening Day roster, it would be tough to expect him to be called up later in the season and thrust into a pivotal role.

On the other hand, it would be tough to keep both Bastardo (or Escalona or fellow prospect Mike Zagurski), and add a free agent like Mahay, or Beimel, or Embree for insurance, because the Phillies are already looking at a situation where they might want to have a bullpen spot for the loser of the Kyle Kendrick/Jamie Moyer competition. And they could also want to find a roster spot for Rule 5 pick David Herndon, who has thrived in the Grapefruit League and whose heavy sinker has drawn raves from just about everybody in the organization.

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I've received several emails regarding a report on ESPN.com that says the Phillies have had "internal discussions" about proposing a Ryan Howard-for-Albert Pujols trade.

I'm not going to delve into the situation too much, because I think we can all agree that High Cheese readers are much smarter than your average sports fans, and thus can put two and two together and form their own conclusions. But, just for the record, here is how I envision the "internal discussion" that supposedly took place:

RUBEN AMARO JR. (Shouting over pulsing techno music): Hey - I just saw Mozeliak buy a whole tray of Jello shots.

PAT GILLICK: Let's go see if he'll trade Pujols.

Point is, discussions take place all the time in front offices. But it is pretty easy to see that a Howard-for-Pujols swap would make close to zero sense for the Cardinals. Both will be free agents after 2011, and Howard is actually due to make more money than Pujols over the next two years. If the Cardinals think Howard will be easier to sign to an extension, why not keep Pujols for the next two years, then try to sign Howard as a free agent? Basically, the only way such a deal would work is if Howard, for some reason, really wanted to play in his hometown of St. Louis, and negotiated a contract extension at a huge discount prior to a trade. But the logistics of that are nearly impossible.

But, anyway -- consider the matter addressed.

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Update - 10:43 a.m.

Since there have been some questions about Scott Eyre in the comments section. . .Ever since he decided to retire, I've gotten the feeling from Scott Eyre that he would consider returning to the majors sometime this season. He was in Clearwater in late February and said he'd gone through his normal throwing program to get ready for spring, and said he hadn't completely ruled out the thought of returning. He re-iterated those points yesterday, as Hagen addressed in his story today. Keep in mind, though, that he is coming off elbow surgery, and hasn't pitched competitively since last October. Is it a realistic option? Probably not at this point. But it certainly is something to keep in the back of your minds as the season progresses.

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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:58 AM, 03/15/2010
    Maybe the Cards know that Pujols will eventually get busted for PEDs and lose his mojo. That's one reason to trade him sooner rather than later.
    23
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:05 AM, 03/15/2010
    Murph, my sources indicated the conversations went like this. RAJ and PG happened to be using side by side wall urinals. RAJ asked PG about his thoughts of trading Howard for Pujols and PG laughed so hard he almost tinkled on RAJ's leg.
    DennyP
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:21 AM, 03/15/2010
    BS. Think about this. What is everyone talking about today in Philly? Soda tax? trash tax? Healthcare reform? Flyers and Sixers lose? Eagles?? How about the number 64!! No one is interested in pre season baseball or writers today. SOOOO let's make up a bogus story about Pujos for Howard. Why not Moyer for Lee? Oops, I just gave away tomorows top lead.
    abnrgr
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:10 AM, 03/15/2010
    ESPN is a bigger joke than the sixers
    Timmy
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:21 AM, 03/15/2010
    Why not Scott Eyre? Or is a guy that had a 1.50 ERA not good enough?
    joe$
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:37 AM, 03/15/2010
    Buster Olney was just on ESPN. I'm not saying the Pujols / Howard trade would happen, but I do trust Buster when it comes to his reporting. He is simply stating that there is an internal discussion that the phils could take advantage of the Cardinals not wanting to pay Pujols the ARod money he deserves.
    BammBamm
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:46 AM, 03/15/2010
    Who knows, it could be true. Remember the Pedro rumors last year? I'm not saying the Cardinals would trade Pujols for Howard, but maybe somebody threw the idea out there in one of the meetings, the same way somebody asked Amaro, how about Pedro? when they were discussing some pitching options last summer. Somebody told me once, when you hear the river making noise it’s because there’s water running… or something like that.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:56 AM, 03/15/2010
    Where there is smoke, there is fire. This is the Pete Rose scenerio. No evidece on Pujols taking PHD's. Imagine the line-up with him. Where would he bat, clean-up? This is too delicious to think about. I never was a Howard fan. The Yankees showed the world how vulnerable he is. And the defensive change? Why not? I disagree Murph that the Cardinals would be foolish. Your scenerio fits on the Howard ging to St. Louis for alot less. Howards gone anyway, lets win 2 WS with Pujols.
    SPBilly
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:58 AM, 03/15/2010
    I feel this is a false rumor. But give this a thought. Werth is the Phils only right handed power. If the Phils do not resign him trading Howard for Pujols balances the lineup. Still I do not think this is a real story.
    rolan01us
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:11 PM, 03/15/2010
    First off, it was only RAJ setting his Fantasy League roster when PG threw out the notion of which one he would trade for......no biggie. The guy in the next stall should've minded his own business. Second, has anyone else noticed how much smaller Pujols' head and neck are from his dominating days playing alongside McGwire? I can tell you from firsthand accounts down here at spring training for the last 10 years that Pujols is now a much smaller man than he was all those years, so positive steroid test or not, I wouldn't trade for him. You don't know what's coming down the road in bad press or injuries. Thirdly, would it make great sense for the Phils to add a RH bat like Pujols at a time when they are gonna lose their only RH power threat in Werth and have another lefty bat like Brown wainting in the wings to replace him? Sure......it makes a little sense. As for Howard taking less money to play for St Louis, yeah he could and probably would, but there's no way we pay Pujols a king's ransom to play in Philly.
    Mark1npt
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:11 PM, 03/15/2010
    First off, it was only RAJ setting his Fantasy League roster when PG threw out the notion of which one he would trade for......no biggie. The guy in the next stall should've minded his own business. Second, has anyone else noticed how much smaller Pujols' head and neck are from his dominating days playing alongside McGwire? I can tell you from firsthand accounts down here at spring training for the last 10 years that Pujols is now a much smaller man than he was all those years, so positive steroid test or not, I wouldn't trade for him. You don't know what's coming down the road in bad press or injuries. Thirdly, would it make great sense for the Phils to add a RH bat like Pujols at a time when they are gonna lose their only RH power threat in Werth and have another lefty bat like Brown wainting in the wings to replace him? Sure......it makes a little sense. As for Howard taking less money to play for St Louis, yeah he could and probably would, but there's no way we pay Pujols a king's ransom to play in Philly.
    Mark1npt


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