Knock outs
Have plans tonight? Don't feel like sticking around for the entire game? Try pitching against the Phillies. Last night, Mike Minor became the seventh straight starting pitcher to last fewer than five innings against the Phillies.
Knock outs
David Murphy, Daily News Staff Writer
Have plans tonight? Don't feel like sticking around for the entire game? Try pitching against the Phillies. Last night, Mike Minor became the seventh straight starting pitcher to last fewer than five innings against the Phillies.
That ties the major-league for record consecutive early KOs of starters set by the New York Giants in July 1949 and matched by the Phillies in September 2006.
As you might remember, it hasn't exactly been a Dean's List of hurlers:
- Minor: 2 1/3 innings, 3 earned runs, 73 pitches
- Brandon Beachy: 4 1/3 innings, 1 earned run, 82 pitches
- Yunesky Maya: 4 2/3 innings, 3 earned runs, 90 pitches
- Jordan Zimmermann: 3 innings, 5 earned runs, 76 pitches
- Jason Marquis: 1/3 inning, 6 earned runs, 38 pitches
- Jorge Sosa: 2 1/3 innings, 4 earned runs, 68 pitches
- Adalberto MEndez: 4 1/3 innings, 2 earned runs, 85 pitches
During this current stretch, the Phillies have scored 24 earned runs in 21 1/3 innings against opposing starters.
Comments (25)
Remember, We didn't slate their pitchers. They did. We only control our own and the big three were positioned perfectly.— batmann1- Who is Mark1npt? A pitching coach? A surgeon? (Or just a poseur?)— Bartleby
- He's a physical therapist with 30 years of experience treating sports injuries and a starting pitcher with 25......just sayin'. No need to pose when you have knowledge and game. Enjoy the ride and the education boys.— Mark1npt
EVERY team not in the race is throwing out untested pitchers this time of year. Give the Phillies credit for crushing them, as they should. September is really two seasons - one season is for the contenders jockeying for playoff position, and the other season is also-rans doing early try-outs for 2011. If you knock the Phillies for taking care of business against bad pitching, you're a sad excuse for a fan. Just enjoy the run they're on.— jpk- jpk, merely stating the obvious.....people are going gaga over us knocking out 8 pitchers by the 5th.....I'd rather they temper their enthusiasm and realize who we're facing in the process.....secondly, everyone loves to brag on Howard and how he comes alive in Sept and carries the team while piling up his legendary stats. What they forget is he accomplishes all those padded numbers against the same kind of AA and AAA pitching. If he was able to do that all season long against real bonafide ML pitchers, he'd really be the best ever. As it stands, I'm glad he crushes the little guys and plays for us, just as I'm glad this team is beating pitchers they should beat. But let's be honest and realistic about the accomplishment, and not go overboard.— Mark1npt
- Mark1npt...How do you arrive at the conclusion that a pitcher's arm speed approaches 220 mph?— expatinva
- Mark- don't disagree with some of your points...but I have watched this game for a long time and I know pitching. Some of my favorite pitchers are the guys who DON'T have that kind of arm speed and rely on control, movement, and selection vs. velocity. I think it is fair to point to the exceptions- Jimmy Key, Jim Kaat, Jim Palmer, Tommy John, Bert Blyleven, the Forsch Brothers, and even Moyer as examples.— Nigel#1
- expat....Have you heard of Dr. James Andrews and his biomechanical lab in Birmingham, AL ? That's where the most research has been conducted over the years. I've been to many seminars there over the years and have had the privelege to work with Dr. Andrews. What's even more surprising is that your rotator cuff muscles have to apply the brakes to that arm that is going 220 mph after every pitch is released. Can you imagine the strain they are under? First accelerating then deccelerating the arm. Awesome work of nature. Nigel, you are right and sadly I fall into that other category now, the Jamie Moyer type who has to get by on guile and changing speeds from slow to slower but we were discussing the drop in Lidge's velocity and the reasons for it, hence my dissertation on pitcher's mechanics and arm speed.— Mark1npt
- How'd they only score one run on this team?— robinlupe
Mark is on point about everything in my opinion. What's really weird about Lidge though is that he has pinpoint accuracy with the slide piece but has no clue where the heater is going. The times he locates with his #1 seems to be when he sacrifices some V-Lo, and thus I believe he overthrows it a lot cause he knows his readings are down, and it causes his ball to be up in the zone. On Howard, I'd trade him for prospects, go with a platoon that works like Sweeney and Gload did this year, and bring in a Cliff Lee or other 4th ace.
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