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Four Phils file for arbitration
Daily News staff
It was simply a formality, but the Phillies four arbitration-eligible players were among 128 players who officially filed for salary arbitration on Friday.
Pitchers Joe Blanton and Chad Durbin, catcher Carlos Ruiz and outfielder Shane Victorino filed. Blanton made $5.475 million last year, Durbin $1.635 million, Ruiz $450,000 and Victorino $3.125 million.
The players and the Phillies must exchange salary figures by Tuesday. If the sides cannot work out a deal, hearings are scheduled to begin Feb. 1.
The Phillies had 10 arbitration-eligible players last year and avoided a hearing with all of them.
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Make deals if you can. I read that the average from last year's arbitration results aveage 175% increases league wide. Now the majority of those were for younger players making low amounts (like Ruiz), but it's hard to tell where an arbiter will go. Plus, if you avoid the confrontational nature of arbitration, everyone is more comfortable.— verve
I wish it was all soo easy.... You're probably right about Ruiz but I have a feeling Victorino is not gonna be here too much longer if Dom Brown and Anthony Gose perform because that money could be put into another pitcher or signing Howard again.. In the end it's gonna be up to whether they can keep Howard and I would say we need him more than we need Victorino... Wish we could keep them all but the Phillies we know aren't gonna do that..— JLingle3
Of course all these guys need to be resigned. Victorino is a good offensive player and a gold glove outfielder, so he will not come cheap. Ruiz and Victorino have been some of the teams best post season hitters. You can never have too much pitching so a one year deal fo Durbin and a multiyear deal for Blanton would be the smart way to go.
Agree. This is Shane's last season with the Phils. Maybe he can link up with Cliff Lee and win World Series' for some other team. Sadly, the Phillies reign as a championship team is all but over. Ruben Amaro does not have the brains to keep it going. The Lee deal was all the evidence we need.- Chooch deserves and should get the biggest bump, and the longest contract. Shane's the sparkplug for the team and he is a gold glover so we need to keep him at least a couple of more years.— eicholson
- Dom Brown, Anthony Gose, and the new guy we picked up from Toronto are all outfield candidates. But I wouldn't think Victorino would necessarily be gone--Werth may be gone after this year, Ibanez in 2. So that leaves rookies in the OF? Doubtful.— DCExpat
- Sign them all to 2 to 4 year deals. You guys crack me up. Blanton was the only one pitching well for them during a long stretch and he's young. Shane's still young and he's not going to LF with his speed and arm. Ruiz really showed himself to be a top-flight catcher and Durbin is solid in Mid relief. Dom Brown should be up now to platoon with Rauuuuullllll - I don't care that he bats left - Rauuulllll wore out. i'm more worried about the starting pitching not having Lee - That still hurts. Hopefully Cole steps up and Happ continues doing well. The number 5 spot is worrisome - Pedro might be it or Kendrick - but what about Carpenter (maybe better in middle relief) and Savery?? Maybe Mathieson will surprise. Still looks like Phightins' re the best in the NL and "COULD GO ALL THE WAY!!!"— Phillyexp
- LMAO @ Durbin. Maybe if he gained some semblance of control he would be due a pay raise. As for now, he deserves nothing. Ruiz and Victorino are the most underpaid of the group.— phillyfan412
- Liberty, the Phils are still the best in the NL. Who got better. Amaro did a good job getting Halladay. Lee was going to ask for bigger bucks-no way the team is paying over $40 mil for 2 players. Keeping Lee until the end and letting hiom go would get two picks which wouldn't even see double A for a couple of years at least. Amaro got the minor league players to re-stock in case the Phils need to get someone during the season, because they'd only have Brown without them. How come you think Amaro had the brains to build a winner, but not to keep it?— mike l
- Carlos Ruiz deserves the biggest raise - he is way underpaid for all he has done for the Phillies - he has been the Catcher for back to back a Pennant winning team and makes less than 500,000?? That is Disgraceful. Victorino deserves a big raise as well.— phillydude
- Liberty, the Phils are still the best in the NL. Who got better. Amaro did a good job getting Halladay. Lee was going to ask for bigger bucks-no way the team is paying over $40 mil for 2 players. Keeping Lee until the end and letting hiom go would get two picks which wouldn't even see double A for a couple of years at least. Amaro got the minor league players to re-stock in case the Phils need to get someone during the season, because they'd only have Brown without them. How come you think Amaro had the brains to build a winner, but not to keep it?— mike l
- all 4 need resigned and Phils better work on getting Park back here.— jwatson
Liberty One. You are an idiot. How can you say Amaro does no have the ability. To keep Lee and get Halladay was a pipe dream. Go support another team you, if you cannot see what a great team we have here.- ruiz deserves a raise. victorino should give back some money with the way he played in the playoffs.— babiesmakinbabies
- I'd give all 4 an extension. In a dream world, I'd trade Victorino and move Domonic Brown up and lock up Werth but I just don't see that happening. Joe Blanton is seriously the most underrated pitcher on the staff. Despite being an innings eater, his breaking pitches were incredible this season. He really matured as the season progressed. Carlos Ruiz should be locked up for a long time as we have nobody even close to being ready in the minors. Plus, he's a solid backstop and while streaky at the plate, he can be pretty clutch. Chad Durbin gets a bad rap too. He's a great middle relief arm and is good for getting key outs. So yes, bottom line, extend all 4. These are all impact players.— Greg V.
- Here comes the Greedy Train! GIMMIE GIMMIE GIMMIE!!!!— jibberjabber
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- Ruiz is way underpaid. He plays well in the playoffs. Remember how the Phillies threw all that money at Daulton and Lieberthal? Niether won a World Series [as a Phillie]. Ante up.— fillyfan
- I'll bet that Carlos gets the biggest percent increase and rightly so.
- I could go for Wawa hoagie right now. Mmmmmm.......Goobler.....— jibberjabber
- They plug in their experience and statistics and add a little, subtract a little, etc. Its' not rocket science. If you want them for longer than one year, do two at a lower rate. Just math.
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$450,000 for a catcher who has averaged 400 ABs for the last three years, .246 av., many clutch hitting moments, especially in the playoffs, and a stellar defensive catcher. That is nothing but a disgrace! The Phils owe Chooch big time!- Victorino has not earned a raise. Blanton neither. Ruiz gets nothing . Be smart and make them earn it !!!— daffydux
- @mike i - we have three all-star outfielders and a couple of highly-regarded outfield prospects.. in the rotation we have one elite pitcher and four inconsistent average pitchers. our strength is offense and our minor league depth is strongest in outfield. werth is probably gone next year, and will probably command similar money to lee.. so why not trade werth instead of lee to create salary room and replenish prospects lost in the halladay deal.. werth or victorino or ibanez - moving any of them would have been better than moving lee. instead, our rotation consists of one elite pitcher and four inconsistent pitchers - that didnt get it done against the yankees last year and it wont get it done against the yanks this year. amaro blew it. i think there is more to the lee deal than meets the eye.. either amaro allowed gillick to steer him into a deal with seattle before amaro had completely thought things through or amaro is looking at things like: on a typical three-game home stand, fans will have more opportunity to see werth hit a homerun than they will to see lee pitch, so trading lee instead of werth or one of the other outfielders makes sense in terms of attendance.— zwarte piet
- sign victorino because werth is gone next year (or sooner if the phils lose an important pitcher early). should try to lock up ruiz too. give durbin and blanton 1 year contracts.
- Ruiz deserves a raise---compared to the other salaries, he is grossly underpaid. He was THE MAN last year. He should be brought up to at least Shane's present salary-- to be fair. HOWEVER, these obsene yearly salaries plus all the sponsorship monies that most are able to secure are one of the reasons that most of you can't afford to take your family out to a nite at the ball park, or if you can afford one nite a year, at the end of the nite you wonder why you spent so much money to see them lose because undoubtedly, the nite you go, they won't win. LOL— K728
- You're the best in the NL. So why go looking to replace known quantities. But, comparatively speaking the ownership and Amaro should be ashamed of themselves for what they are paying Ruiz. Sign all four while they are young. Pitchers are the most questionable from year to year but there are no annual guarantees for the other positions either.— MFinSC
Blanton is the most underrated player on the team. As for fair pay, who knows in these times?- Durbin is solid ? The s word must refer to the hits he gives up in clutch situations. Phils will be sure winners in his case. Chooch should get three yr mega $$ deal rather than the annual bruhaha. Victorino wil demand huge bucks in his case and will probably get them. Doubt Phils will commit to long term mega deal as they will need all the mega deal bucks down the road for Howard. Carpenter should contend for a starter role as he is not suited for pen. Savery is clearly not a real prospect at this time. My opinion is that Phils should sign Pedro to one yr deal and have him contend with KK and Carpenter for 5th slot. Hopefully a buyout of settlement of some sort can be reached with Jamie.— mick314
- I am more concerned than ever with the frugal Phils (relative to Yanks and Mets). They probably got a speedy minor league outfielder in the Lee deal just so they can replace Shane who will ask too much for what the Phils budget allows next year and then Shane leaves via free market. The Phils have a shot at being good for years if they will just stop pinching pennies and millionaires too. I do understand the Lee trade because Lee was going to ask top dollar and more than Holladay and the Phils got Phillippe Aumont who could be a great closer soon. But I am beginning to see a pattern with Amaro unabashedly talking budget all the time.— sportsdead
- Hard to fault Amaro on the Lee deal without knowing what Lee was demanding. Myguess is the years may have been the trouble point. After saying he wants to try arbitration he says he wanted to finish out his career with the Phillies. Hard to give a pitcher more than 4 years since many come up with injuriea. Still Halladay, Lee and Hamels at the top of the rotation, thats a potential dynasty.— Don w
- Is there any doubt; Shane Victorino a Philly and Vegas guy as am I!!— hrlevine
- Is there any doubt; Shane Victorino a Philly and Vegas guy as am I!!— hrlevine
- The lee deal was a long term good move by amaro,ruizs contributions to this team,his handling of the pitchers makes him invaluable,deserves a two year deal,vic i dont see as being here long term,expect werth to be rsigned and moved to center,brown moving to left,durbin is even more important now considering the state of injuries in the pen,another two year deal,blanton is the perfect number 3 on this staff,steady and durable,another two year deal— soliteryman
- babiesmakinbabies - just out of curiousity, have you ever offered to give back some of your salary when you've underperformed on the job?— catnameddomino
- hey LibertyNow, what makes you think you know anything? We got Roy Halladay and you're being greedy as hell. Three (possible) Aces on one team is not something most teams can afford, save the Yankees and RedSox. Phils payroll went from $89M to $140M in three years. We dont have our own TV network. Find a new team to cheer for.— jme42257
- Mr. Liberty--and most everyone--seems to miss the point with the Halladay-Lee deal. Even if Cliff Lee were as good as Roy Halladay (okay, it's incremental) the deal gives the Phillies a BETTER rotation because now its two RHP's and three LHP's. Four of either is TOO MANY! As far as the rest, some guys won't stay no matter what, since $$$$$$ is the only answer for them. The team in New York is the ONLY team in baseball with virtually unlimited $$$$$$, and it has been that way since I can remember (i.e., 1949). As Phillyc----- (I won't write the rest of that) says, GET ANOTHER TEAM TO TRASH!— BEMiller
- Try to sign Ruiz through his arbitration years. Offer Victorino 2 years through his. That doesn't mean you couldn't trade him after this year. Pay Blanton whatever arbitration gives him this year and then he's gone. Durbin should never have been offered arbitration in the first place.— JeffR
- Ruiz is the ONLY one who deserves a raise. Blanton almost 5 1/2 mil???...lmao!!— P.H.I
- Werth will be gone after 2010. The upside is that he will have a great year for the team. I disagree with the statement about the Championship years being done, however, 2010 will be the last part of this ever closing window. That is why the Yankees aren't committing to Damon, because their tooling up for Werth, and he will be part of the last championship calibre team here. I think it was a mistake to get rid of Lee, although Halladay was brought here as the guru for Hamels. We could of had them both, which would insure, at the very least, the NL Pennant. It was RAJ's obsession with this guy that is dubious.— SPBilly
- Victorino was shaky in the postseason. This is the last year for Victorino and Ibanez. Blanton is the key. Ruiz and Durbin are very necessary, though not as dominant as Blanton is at his position. Trade Victorino for some pitching. Werth cannot ever leave.
- A few other teams could (would)have figured a way to keep Halladay and Lee both, don't even go there. Chooch deff. deserves the biggest raise, but I'd try and sign the lot! just sayin'...— DJ
- Murph's last point is a valid one. Last year, this organization had 10 Arbitration Eligible players and avoided a hearing with all of them which is a credit to management. Additionally, while at the core I am on the side of wanting Halladay AND Lee, I agree with BEMiller you need balance in the rotation; that was an issue with all the Lefties last year. Also, Silly Billy is right- You need arms like Blanton over the course of 162 game season- it may not be pretty somedays, but the guy is mentally tough and stays healthy 2 key elements. Bottom line, Phils will be fine.— Nigel#1
- We need to sign Blanton for 3 years otherwise we lose him to F.A. after this season. We will probably lose jason Wertz next year as he will be a free agent and command big bucks leaving a big hole in the outfield so we need to sign Victorino for 3 years. Durbin I can take or leave. He doesn't hurt ypou and is probably as good as what is out there left in F.A. If we get him cheap we keep him. Always need pitching. Ruiz should be signed for 5 years. He is an excellent defensive catcher. He handles the pitchers very well, Gets a clutch hit for you every now and then and is a solid #8 hitter. He will be behind Victorino in the lineup this year and will probably be 2nd on the team in intentional walks as Victorino will get on and steal 2nd so that helps turn the lineup over. We don't know if Brown is ready and he needs to play everyday in the minors. Our bench is much improved and barring injuries we are in pretty good shape. My only concern is the bullpen. We need to sign the best available free agent now. We have nothing left ot trade from the minors for a year or two. We should still win the N.L pennant.— naplesbear
- carLOS! carLOS! carLOS!— kiwi
- Brown won't be a platoon player this year. Remember this guy started in Clearwater last year, got hurt and then was promoted to Reading around mid-season. We have two better options at this time to give Ibañez a rest once or twice a week in Francisco and Gloud. In the meantime, Brown will be honing his skills at Reading and Lehigh Valley. I agree that the most likely outfielder to be dealt is Victorino. Werth is the only RH power threat we have in the organization, now that we traded Taylor and a GM has to be crazy to take on Ibañez’s contract. Why would anyone even think about trading Werth? In the other hand, we have a few CF prospects in Gose and Gillies (the new kid from Toronto) in two or three years. Quentin Berry is another possibility. My bet is Vic will get a short-term contract (2-4 year) and then he’ll be traded as soon as any of the young guys are ready for the majors, the most likely candidate being Brown, taking RF, and therefore moving Werth to center as a short term fix.— EL Zorro
- Victorino obviously deserves the biggest raise from the bunch. I say sign him and Ruiz to a 3 year contract and save everyone the pain of having to go through this again. That should give the Phillies enough time to have another catcher ready to step in if necessary and will see Victorino through his peak years before he starts to lose some speed. They seem determined to trade Blanton one of these days so just go with a 1 year deal with him. Who cares about Durbin? If he pitches like he did in 2009, we don't need/want him.— SteveS11
- I love Vic, but if moving him means freeing his $$$ to use to re-up Werth I'd do it...— gwfisher
- I agree with Liberty Now on Amaro. All we had to see was the Lee deal. I want to have Shane around for longer than he may stay, but I also think the run for World Champs is over. Can't see anyone coming up who can replace a gold glove in the outfield or behind the plate. If they thought the Marson could be there, why did the trade him?— rosommar
- I keep seeing these Lee trade negative posts. At first, I thought that it was a bad trade. I stepped back an d kept re-looking at it. It is a win-win deal for the Phillies because the organization is looking past one year. I keep reading about team built to win now like the Muts. They had injuries last season and did not have the players to replace the injured and stay in the race. They do not have an effective farm system. Usually teams that are built to win have no depth. The Phillies felt that they would not be able to sign Lee after 1 meeting with his agent. It would not be the first time an agent mis-represented his client. Amaro, JR thinking long-term instead of short-term found a solution. Amaro, JR was being pro-active instead of being re-active. I would rather have a team that will be competitive for the next ten years than a team competing for this year. Now if they did a nice 5-year plan on the CBP seating and covert all the wasted space into seating. A 43,000 seat stadium is too small the the areas demographics. Stop raising ticket prices and get more seats. For example cover Auburn Ally with seats that cove both bullpens and put an enclosed bar with seats under the batters Eye.— jpelle36
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