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Dobbs now a free agent

POSTED: Thursday, October 28, 2010, 3:06 PM

Quick update here:

The Phillies have made a few moves involving their 40-man roster.

The headliner is probably Greg Dobbs becoming a free agent. The Phillies had the option of offering him arbitration, but instead removed him from the 40-man roster, at which point the veteran infielder elected to become a free agent.

Jamie Moyer also elected free agency, although that was more of a procedural move, with the Phillies clearing his spot on the 40-man roster. Moyer's contract expired at the end of the season. Five days after the World Series, he will be free to sign with any team.

The Phillies also outrighted catcher Paul Hoover to Triple-A Lehigh Valley. Hoover then elected free agency.

They now have 38 players on the 40-man roster.

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Comments  (64)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:51 PM, 10/28/2010
    Sorry to see Dobbs go but his stock has fallen. Even sadder to see his wife leaving!
    chescoguy
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:52 PM, 10/28/2010
    I find it amazing that anyone on this forum would talk about trading Raul. If ever there was an tradable player it is him. Phils would have to pay the bulk if not all of his contract. At that point why not just release him?
    hbbfam
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:57 PM, 10/28/2010
    beagelmommy's got it right
    jklecko
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:04 PM, 10/28/2010
    Raul would be difficult to trade, but he really has to go. He has consistently played poorly in September and October. Werth will never be re-signed; the money he will be offered is simply too much. Trading Victorino would make no sense unless the return were staggering. The Phils really need a solid right-handed hitting OF to platoon with Dom Brown in RF. When Dom takes off, then that OF could platoon with Raul, with the eventual goal of replacing him. Ben Francisco is OK, but the Phils could do better.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:20 PM, 10/28/2010
    beagelmommy's is an idiot just like the rest of you who want to trade the core of this team...if the phils dont sign werth its b/c they dont want to fork over a little more money of what they made off us fans this year. we dont need to trade any of the core players...injuries play a role and to over look that you are guys are irrogant. Valdez at SS? a journey man who has a strong arm, but lead the team in grounding into DP's and he didn't even start hahahahahahaha...Rollins is the spark to this team, and he's a leader on this team (dont have too many of those, at least the outgoing one's)...Victorino is a GOLDEN GLOVE outfielder...Chase has shown more hustle then any player on this team each year. Howard has hit more HR's and RBI's over the last 5 years then Pujols...if you can't sign Werth move on, just like moving on from LEE that many of you idiots cant do. H2O pitched great, and we win that series with our normal run output...people were praising Gross as the hitting coach when he was here a week, but what are thye saying now? Charlie who i love put the team in many of those positions as well, he has some horrible situational calls...Chooch who is usually clutch for us had the lowest batting average of the team and his lowest in any postseason series. there is only 1 trade i would think about if it worked out the way we needed it too and i still prob wouldn't do it b/c this team is goin to come back and win next year. but if i made a trade it would be Utley just b/c of who we have on this team and what is out there for FA's...they have a great righty bat out there who hits better in small parks with HR totals...ADRIAN BELTRE, if we signed him...you move Poly to second and you trade Utley for a young OF and RP...then you have the righty bat behind Howard again...but like i said i still wouldn't do it. I LOVE THE FACT
    jdowney47
  • 1 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:23 PM, 10/28/2010
    Trading Victorino is ridiculous !!! Covers the most ground in center since Maddox. With anyone else see how many go through the hole Ibanez
    creates in left. He kept Werth going to the line to make those catches
    again because his speed covers so much.
    batmann1
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:26 PM, 10/28/2010
    THAT ALL YOU PEOPLE ARE JUMPING SHIP B/C THEY LOST THE NLCS...i consider most of you non-phillie fans...just here for a championship and dont understand baseball. its the toughest thing to win the world series and the phillies were almost there 3 times in a row, weird how its only happen 1 other time in the NL in the history of baseball. why dont you guys look at the big picture and appreciate what this team has brought to this city...was it disappointing that they lost, YES!!! but move on...we have Halladay for 2 more years...Oswalt for another with an option...Hamels for another...most of this core for a few years...THEY WILL BE BACK AND WILL BE THE FAVORITES NEXT YEAR IN THE NL AGAIN AND THEY WILL WIN.
    jdowney47
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:55 PM, 10/28/2010
    I disagree. Every year, after the season, you look at what the player has contributed, and if there is a potential upside.

    After they won the world series, I said "They should act like they lost and ignore the emotion of the moment".

    The team needs to get a lot younger. Jimmy Rollins has pretty conclusively shown that his best days are behind him. Unless he wants to do a lot more conditioning offseason that he's shown, I don't see much upside there.

    As bad as werth looks sometimes at the plate, his defense is great and teams don't like pitching to him.

    Howard was a mess this year. Whatever he's doing, he needs to stop. Not a single home run in the playoffs. He's the biggest disappointment simply because I expect him to look at tape of himself striking out all those times and think "gee, I need to change something". Even ESPN showed before the Giants series how to strike him out. Either he improves or he'll be ineffective and go through an ugly process where the phils can't cut him and just have fans boo him all the time.

    Nobody is jumping ship. These guys make millions are subject to the same scrutiny that any of us are at our jobs.
    fmMD
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:30 PM, 10/28/2010
    Many thanks to the Grand (Old!) Master for his contributions on the mound! It was a very nice stay on our team, and I really hope someone will let you continue your career in the Majors. The memories are many, varied, and sometimes intense! The two games you came into last year after the rain had washed away the start by your "replacement" stands tall and proud. The wins you generated when you first got here were remarkable in themselves......but especially in light of the fact that Gillick had "lightened the load" by trading away Abreau et al. Every year people kept expecting you to retire....with blood on your hands no less. I'm sure that you'll be getting a ML contract when you show you are ready. And Mr. Dobbs! Without you in '08, who knows WHERE we woulda been? Thank you for what you did for us!
    TBear
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:36 PM, 10/28/2010
    Starting pitching does not appear to be a core need right now. A right fielder, long relief, and a better hitting bench are what the Phils need to find. Phils are not likely willing/able to resign Werth (who will get $15M a year for several years). Teams are not likely to take Howard or Ibanez in trades because of their contracts. We can't trade Ruiz as we don't have a suitable replacement. Since Victorino is the youngest and fastest between him, Rollins, and Utley, I would not be in a rush to trade Victorino. Additionally, if Werth goes, we have no replacement for Victorino. So either we hope for the best with Brown (or some other call-up or pick up) in a platoon or trade Rollins or Utley. I would tend to go with Brown and look for Rollins and Utley to have a better, less injured year. And keep some money for a plan B if the offense struggles again next year...
    JohnFC
  • 1 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:36 PM, 10/28/2010
    The real question is how to get rid of Ryan Howard. He has not been the same hitter since the Yankees shut him down in last year's WS. Next year he will be lucky to see 25 HRs and 90 RBIs. Because of his long term high salary conract I don't think the Phils can unload him anywhere
    FlAJOE
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:49 PM, 10/28/2010
    I wonder how many times this offseason I will have to read, 'Eat Ibanez' contract and then sign Werth.' - - - - If the Phillies elect to eat the remaining year on his deal (which they won't), it does not mean they don't have to pay him - - - - Hello!
    PhightinPhil
  • 1 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:49 PM, 10/28/2010
    They don't need to trade anyone to keep Werth. If you take the salary they just trimmed by canning Moyer, Dobbs,and Romero they could give Werth a fat raise.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:55 AM, 10/29/2010
    Paul, I believe they already have 145 millions committed to 16 players, so they have to trade not only one but maybe two players to accommodate Werth, unless the organizations raises the payroll significantly or somebody takes Howard or that other player is Utley or one of the Roys. I don't think that's going to happen.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:50 PM, 10/28/2010
    Rollins has gone downhill every year since his MVP year. He's also having trouble staying healthy. It doesn't get any better as the player gets older. I think his trade value is already pretty low. Besides, who do they have to replace him? Wilson Valdez is a good utility man, but he's not an everyday shortstop. I think they'll let Rollins play out his contract and then let him walk. They really need to start grooming a replacement.
    SteveS11


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