Forget youth: Phillies need to diversify their offensive skill set
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Forget youth: Phillies need to diversify their offensive skill set
David Murphy, Daily News Staff Writer
Success at hitting requires the mastery of two opponents. The first opponent, the pitcher, is ever-changing. It is a variable that presents one of the most severe limitations of the evaluative abilities of even the most advanced statistics. A home run off of Chris Volstad counts the same as a home run off of Tim Lincecum. There are some ways to measure performance against pitchers of varying strength, which we will look at in a future blog post. For the most part, though, any of the standard measures we use to quantify overall success fail to accurately reflect how a batter might perform in a specific situation against a specific pitcher. This holds true for all statistics, from basic unit tabulations like home runs to ratios like on base percentage to complex approximations like WAR. For instance, all of those numbers say that Ryan Howard should be at a heavy disadvantage against a left-handed starter like Johan Santana, yet Howard is 8-for-25 with four home runs, two walks and five strikeouts against the former Cy Young winner. Those same numbers suggest Howard should hold a heavy advantage against a righthander like Tim Redding, yet Redding has held the first base man to three hits and three walks with 11 strikeouts in 28 career at-bats. From a statistical perspective, these sample sizes are too small to hold much of a predictive value. But Major League Baseball does not take sample size into consideration when it doles out championship rings. Four plate appearances against Chris Carpenter is a small sample size. Seven innings against Edwin Jackson is a small sample size. A Best-of-Five series is a small sample size. In the end, the only thing that matters is the result.
We have issued the disclaimer approximately 948 times, but we will issue it again: you can't make definitive personnel judgments based on a five-game postseason series. At the same time, the Phillies have reached a point where their fans are no longer satisfied with the results yielded by a 162-game sample. Losing three straight years to the eventual world champions, which they are three Cardinals wins away from accomplishing, reveals just how close this organization is -- or was -- to matching the accomplishments of some of the greatest dynasties in the history of the National League. It also reveals just how thin of a membrane separates success from disappointment.
Which brings us to the second opponent a hitter much master to accomplish his goal. It is an opponent that is far more constant than the pitcher who happens to be standing on the mound. In fact, it is the most constant opponent in the universe. Because it is the universe. Or, at least, it is the set of physical laws that govern the universe. Much has been made of the Phillies' age this offseason. Over the past week, many respected baseball minds have chimed in with the observation that the Phillies "need to get younger." But a few minutes of rational thought reveals the sheer illogic of this statement. If the inconsistency that plagued the Phillies' line-up could be rectified through youth, Ruben Amaro Jr. would be on the phone today swinging deals for Miley Cyrus and Taylor Swift and that guy who every day plays catch with his dead brother.
Saying that the Phillies need to get younger is like saying Congress needs to get busier. The House is not going to start churning out bi-partisan legislation simply because we replace John Boehner with Gunnery Sergeant Hartman and Nancy Pelosi with the pill-popping mother from Requiem for a Dream. All we would get is a narcisistic man yelling at the top of his lungs and a hopped up woman living in a paranoid dream world. In other words, we would get cable news.
Replacing the old with the young to perform a certain task only makes sense if the young can perform the task better than the old. The Phillies are not trying to lower the premium on their life insurance bill. They are trying to reach the World Series, and one of the ways they can improve their odds is by fielding a lineup that can use a cylindrical wooden object to make productive contact with a fast-moving sphere on any given night in any given situation against any given pitcher. We're talking physics. One of the biggest reasons the Cardinals were able to qualify for the playoffs was their offseason decision to fill an outfield vacancy with a 35-year-old veteran who had not played the position since 2007 and was coming off the worst offensive season of his career.
The point isn't that St. Louis out-smarted the Phillies. The point is that the Phillies should not and, given their track record, probably will not allow age to be the deciding factor in any of their offseason decisions. Their problem was not that the line-up had too many older players. The problem was that the line-up had too many older players with similar skill sets.
Four of the first five hitters in the order are extreme pull hitters from the left side of the plate. Jimmy Rollins, Shane Victorino, Ryan Howard, Chase Utley - all pull hitters. As Raul Ibanez has aged, he has progressively increased his pull tendency. I constructed a spread sheet based on data from Baseball-Reference.com, and the results jibe with everything you saw on the field. No team in the National League pulled the ball to the right side more than the Phillies did this season. More than a third of the balls that their left-handed hitters put into play went to the right third of the field. The league average was 29 percent. The Phillies checked in at 33.7 percent. The four teams that came closest to them were the Cubs, Braves, Nationals and Pirates.
Ryan Howard pulled the ball 42.8 percent of the time. Jimmy Rollins did it 40.5 percent of the time when batting left-handed. Chase Utley did it 33.9 percent of the time. Shane Victorino did it 32.6 percent of the time as a lefty. Throw Raul Ibanez into the mix: he pulled the ball 33.4 percent of the time. Any time one of those hitters stepped to the plate, an opposing defense could figure that there was at least a 1-in-3 chance that the ball was going to the right side of the field. Not only that, they could figure that odds were better than even that the ball would be in the air. For every ground ball the Phillies hit, they hit 1.4 fly balls. Their .82 groundball-to-flyball ratio ranked 12th in the league. The Cardinals, who scored the most runs in the NL, ranked first with .96 ratio.
We are not suggesting that the higher a teams groundball ratio, the more runs they will score. Same goes for pull rate. In 2007, when they posted their highest single-season run total since before integration, the Phillies ranked 14th in the NL with a .71 groundball rate and pulled the ball to right field more frequently than all but two teams. The Phillies have been a flyball hitting team since the emergence of this current crop of hitters. They had the lowest GB ratio in Larry Bowa's last season as manager and they had the lowest GB ratio in Charlie Manuel's first season as manager. They have finished in the bottom half of the NL in each of the last eight seasons.
That is the way this line-up has always been built, and for a long time it worked. They are heavy on left-handed hitters who drive fly balls to right field.
Those who have watched this offense closely over the last five years know that it has always been plagued by maddening droughts. Why have they always been feast-or-famine? Why do they all seem to struggle against the same type of pitcher? Well, because they are all the same type of hitter (to varying degrees, of course).
The problem is that while the Phillies are hitting fly balls to right field at their usual rate, those fly balls are not traveling as far as they once did. From 2006-09, the Phillies finished in the top three in the NL in home run/flyball ratio. In 2009, 9.7 percent of their fly balls left the ballpark, the best mark in the league. But in 2010, they slipped to eighth with a rate of 7.5 percent. This year, they finished 10th at 7.1 percent. It doesn't take a beautiful mind to figure it out: if the number of fly balls remains constant, and the number of flyballs leaving the park drops, then chances are the team is making more outs. Over the last two years, that's exactly what has happened.
In 2007, their lefties hit .438 with an .818 slugging percentage to the pull side, which ranked first and second in the NL. In 2011, they hit .335 with with a .611 slugging percentage to the pull side. The NL ranks? 15th and 12th.
Either the Phillies do not have the capability to play as they once did, or they are not playing up to their capabilities. Either way, they have seen their on base percentage and slugging percentage drop, which means they are making more outs (reaching base less often means making outs more often) while accumulating fewer bases when they don't make outs.
You can argue that a lot of this has to do with personnel changes. They became more left-handed when they replaced Pat Burrell with Raul Ibanez, who hit for power this season but not much else during the final year of his three-year deal. Jayson Werth was a player who posted high on base and slugging percentages during his time with the Phillies. He was essentially replaced by four months of Ben Francisco and Domonic Brown and two months of Hunter Pence. Chase Utley was replaced for two months by Michael Martinez, Wilson Valdez and Pete Orr. Placido Polanco battled injuries and was replaced by those same players.
In 2008, Burrell and Werth provided two different skill sets for opposing managers and pitchers to deal with. In the 2008 and 2009 postseasons, the Phillies were aided greatly by the production they got out of Carlos Ruiz's deft bat-handling ability.
This year, Ruiz struggled in the postseason, as did Polanco. Along with Pence, those three players represented the diversity in the lineup. The Phillies lost.
Still, Ruben Amaro Jr. said he thinks the Phillies can re-invent themselves. He downplayed the notion that the team was hurt by a lack of offensive depth. He said this is still a championship-caliber line-up if it plays the right way.
His private opinion is probably a bit different, but putting the onus on the players who are already earning big money from the club makes a lot of sense.
How might they respond? Victorino has steadily improved over the last three seasons. His left-handed stroke carried them for a good chunk of the regular season. But to break into the realm of elite hitters, he must improve his consistency against righthanders. Despite his impressive power numbers from the left side this season, the Phillies still envision him as a guy whose best production will come if he focuses on the whole field and hitting to reach base instead of driving the ball to the right third.
For Rollins to improve, he will have to swing as he rarely has. His on base percentage and batting average were both right around his career averages, so he was not responsible for the drop off. But if he focuses more on hitting to reach base instead of hitting for extra bases, maybe he can bolster both of those numbers.
Still, the Phillies can live with their current levels of production out of two premium defensive positions. What they can't live with -- at least not without a healthy influx of new talent -- is the levels of production they received from their two highest-paid hitters this season. Those hitters, Chase Utley and Ryan Howard, also happen to be the players who Charlie Manuel has always seemed to regard with a What You See is What You Get attitude. Utley hits three. Howard hits fourth. Utley gets on base. Howard drives in runs and hits home runs.
Maybe Manuel can work with Howard and get the big guy to improve his plate discipline, to settle for a pitch he can serve into left-center instead of a pitch he can drive to right. But Utley already has the mindset of reaching base at any cost. And it isn't a stretch to think that he can turn himself from a player who looks to either walk or drive a ball to a player who looks at a hit as a way to reach base.
Compare Utley's spray chart to the one produced by Andre Ethier, another sweet-swinging left-handed hitter whose power dropped this season.
While most of Ethier's power still went to his pull side, note the number of hits that dropped into left field and center field as well as right. Also, note the disparity between fly ball outs to deep right field. According to these charts, which were produced by TexasLeaguers.com using MLB's PITCHf/x hit location data, Utley had a lot more deep outs to his pull side than Ethier. Although Ethier finished with a career-low 11 home runs and .421 slugging percentage, he still matched his career numbers with a .292 batting average and .368 on base percentage.
Of course, if it was that easy, the Phillies already would have transformed their lineup. Amaro's past actions suggest he will look for new personnel who fit the mold he is looking for. He started by signing Polanco and continued by trading for Pence. Both are guys who hit for average and use the entire field. While the Phillies say they are going to give the right-handed pull-hitting John Mayberry Jr. every opportunity to earn a regular job, you can bet they will be scouring the left field market for a professional hitter. They could also look to upgrade at third base, where Aramis Ramirez fits the mold they are looking for. It would also help to convince veteran utility men like Jamey Carroll and Jerry Hairston Jr. to sign on as a part-time player. It could be difficult to guarantee the requisite number of at-bats, but the Phillies clearly could have used an infielder with a better offensive repetoire than either Wilson Valdez or Michael Martinez offered.
Ramirez is entering his mid-30's. Carroll and Hairston are both in their late 30's. Maybe the Phillies think a guy like Wilson Betemit's hitting capabilities outweight his subpar defense. But one thing is clear: production is production at any age. The Phillies definitely need more young talent for the long run. But they are being judged by their fans on the here and now.
Please. Do both;get younger with some guys that have pop even if they do not play Rollins' type of D. Hanging on to older guys just opens them up to injuries and on it goes. The Phils can cut down at least 10 spots for money to do this. It will hurt but it must be done.— Koons- Ok Murph....you way overdid it this time. Why can't youjust say they need better hitters? The Cards have 6 guys in their lineup hitting .295 or better. We do not. I could have saved you 10,678 words today.— Mark1npt
- I hope that the evil doers who held the gun to your head and forced you read the story have finally left you in peace. — Bella914
- Sign Ramirez and bat him 5th.— Northeaster
- It's a shame Beltre isn't a free agent this off-season instead of last.— ton609
- too much over analysis.
they need more contact hitters who hit for better average.— Bob65S - what a unique comment.....4 of the guys need to adjust to hitting what they are pitching....not sitting around hoping you get your pitch....— nuggett
Comment removed.- So the Phillies are a team top heavy with lefthanded hitters who swing for the fences? REALLY?!?!? Wow, who woulda thunk it! Seriously, we know that they don't have enough gritty players who make contact and move runners. We also know that they are aging rapidly, and suffering and a crazy fast dropoff in skills (or they are all slumping at the same time). What I miss is the fire in their bellies. When they won the world series, they fought for every game like it was there last. The last two seasons, they looked defeated and helpless. We need to get the fight back!— dblankj
- Couldnt read all that, I only have so much time in the day. Lineup needs an overhaul. Manuel needed to mix it up in the playoffs, instead he just sat there chewing.
— phillyceltic - My head hurts.— PhightinPhil
- That's funny. The pain went right to a completely different part of my anatomy. — justacarpenter
- Wow, was that overwrting. And analogies to Miley Cyrus and Congress? Really?
No kidding younger players also need to be talented players.
Worst thing I've ever read from Murphy.— VicM - Like Carroll a lot been calling on him as the super sub for years... Ramirez would be a better upgrade then bringing back Rollins.. so yes I am for both those moves..
— Flyers1971 - "since before immigration"
Those darn immigrants!— Zherog - First, I like to say to you David what a great job you do, you are very informative and not biased for the home team.
In all sports, teams reflect their home stadiums. The Phillies
will never be a team that hits for average, they will always hit for the fences cause are fences are short. We need another good homerun
hitter on our team. There is one that comes to mind who is not goung
anywhere soon on his team that we should get and that is Batista. (sorry if I misspelled his name). I believe he also plays third base besides rightfield, we can always stick him in leftfield as well.
We need to solidify the bullpen with some great relievers and we can win the big one again. If I remember right that is how we won last time the big one. Lots of players that can Knock it out and hold on in the end, it has worked before and will again. By the way both tems in it now use the same formula.— wildgreenman - The Phils just cant hit consistently and it was apparent long before the NLCS .Those were not slumps Utley et al were in this has been the case for two and a half years now or ever since they were accused of stealing signs.( I believe it to be a coincidence).
The Phils weree badly out managed in the NLCS when La Russa put winning ahead of loyalty. Manuel owes the fans not the players. there were obvious times he should have replaced players, had them take pitches ,changed pitchers when he didnt.
Utley gives away a strike every time up,and winds up swinging at bad pitches. Howard is an automatic out against left handers. Rollins is very undisciplined at the plate and is no leadoff hitter.
What was Victorino doing batting 5th ? If that didnt tell you how bad this lineup was i dont know what does. Why was Polanco allowed to play everygame when he was an automatic out? Why wasny Ruiz pinch hit for late in those games when he was pitiful at the plate?
Even pence ,in spite of his average swung at some bad pitches either high or outside almost reaching accross the plate at times and hitting weak ground balls.
In spite of all that ,Lee not holding the 4 run lead was the turning point in the series . Ironic.— gardner - Few weeks ago I wrote an article on Utley's power decline on pulling balls as well. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/860448-analyzing-chase-utleys-recent-slump
I could have went more in depth, but it's a fairly simple, quick read.
— Bobby Yost - That assessment is good and it's what I was alluding to. Utley's been in a steep power decline. It's undoubtedly due to his knee problem. He would be in a natural decline due to age anyway, although less steep. What that says to me is we will probably never see the old Chase Utley again. If he learns to change his approach that could buy some years but you have to look at that for what it is: A guy trying to compensate for his declining ability. Now multiply that times 4 and you have our infield. If youth isn't part of the equation when getting new players we're just deluding ourselves that we'll see 2008 again. — s
- Solution: Bring in the right Field Fence to match the distance that our older players now hit......Raul hits a 3 run homer in game 5 :)— flyerssignguy
- Well, look at all the teams in the playoffs and look at the NLCS and ALCS MVPs and tell me about youth. Look at the overall offensive stats, and the only "old'' player in the top 5 was probably Pujols at 31 years old. Longoria, Cabrera, Freese, Cruz, Braun, Fielder, Craig, Weeks, Andrus, Napoli, Molina, Sean Rodriguez, B.J. Upton, Desmond Jennings, Corey Hart, Miguel Montero, Chris Young, Justin Upton, Delmon Young, AlexAvila, Austin Jackson, Johnny Peralta, Ian Kinsler, Mitch Moreland would be young in the Phillies lineup. That’s 25 very good young players. Even veterans like Pujols, Holiday and Schumaker would be the second youngest on the team’s starting line up. The same age of Victorino and only trailing Hunter Pence. So yes, we need to get younger. Tell that also to the Yankees and Red Sox.— EL Zorro
- Pick up Oswalt's option and trade him for Michael Young to play SS.
Trade Blanton to the Red Sox for Youkilis to play 3B.(He's entering the last year of his contract)
Sign Matt Murton to play LF.— T-Money - Murph, you can't cast pearls among swine. You write in a way that assumes those who read it are above a sixth grade level in comprehension. Now if you only limited your writing to cliches and negativity they would understand...
It's evident that you put alot of time and thought into these recent pieces. I just wish more people would appreciate them instead of responding with typical talk-radio talking points.— Russ - Also, remember in Spring Training that Charlie wanted Howard to be more of a pull hitter. I guess he forgot Howard was a better (power) hitter when he went to LF-LFC-CF since coming into the league. Look it up in baseball-reference.com.— EL Zorro
- I generally like Murph's columns, but he obviously gets paid by the word. There isn't anything here we didn't already know, just a total rehash.
- When the Phils go in an offensive funk, they're all in. Nobody hits.
They're all anxious to swing, and often swing at bad pitches.
I don't mind swinging, just look for a pitch you can get the barrel on.
Saw something where the Phils averaged 3.8 pitches per batter in the regular season, and that dropped to 2.8 pitches per batter in the playoffs.
— Fan74 - The old, ball-and-chain Utley needs to be moved to the bottom of the order or out of town.— Astro Jones
- I would argue that age is a factor on two fronts, one which you alluded to Dave when you said "Utley had a lot more deep outs to his pull side than Ethier." Some percentage of Utley's outs were balls he used to hit out of the park -- a loss of power. I do agree that Utley is probably the best study in the line-up and can probably change. However, that brings me to the second age factor which is injuries. The entire infield has played significant parts of the past 2 season injured. And that's not just time on the DL. Polanco is probably the best example of how playing hurt, even when not on the DL, can affect your hitting. His bat pretty much disappeared after April. If you can't keep them on the field no amount of approach-at-the-plate change is going to matter.— s
- You can say it's overkill. I say the Inky/DN needs another ten sports guys like Murph who do some work instead of mailing it in nearly every day.— PhillySubsMac
- true — justacarpenter
- I appreciate David Murphy's insight, but in this particular piece, it just took too long to get to the baseball analysis. I do like the in-depth stuff(stuff that Montgomery, Amaro, and Co. can't easily argue with). I think the Phils will continue to look for power to take advantage of the small park, but I think they need more disciplined at-bats, and I think adding a top leadoff hitter(for starters) can really help accomplish this. Sure, it's nice to have a team that can beat teams 10-4(and do it frequently), but you have to be able to scratch out runs against good pitching. The 2002 Angels did it, the 2003 Marlins did it; I think the Phils need to do it too.— 76erfn
- I enjoy your work David, especially the blend of analysis, opinion, with humor, thus putting things in proper perspective. Don't forget though that it's not all science. Baseball is part design and a big part serendipity. I'm guessing that Cholly was angry some of his men didn't heed advice to have smart at bats, and that he welcomed Amaro's commnents about plate approach. I suppose the folks bashing Lee would want Randy Wolf back since he beat the Cards. One comment is that I believe because of his physical condition Utley did transform his game to hit more the other way by the end of the year.— retzlaff
- "Any time one of those hitters stepped to the plate, an opposing defense could figure that there was at least a 1-in-3 chance that the ball was going to the right side of the field."
How would that be an advantage to the defense? If there are three
fields (left, center, and right), then knowing that the ball has a
1 in 3 chance of being hit to right field doesn't really give you
an edge.
— nydb - Ok, I am getting a lawyer. I need to sue and get the last 5 minutes of my life back after reading this garbage. Lots of colors though!!!— amass1972
- Youth and skill are not mutually exclusive. Does Paul Holmgren do consultation work? Say what you will about the Flyers, but their GM is the standard bearer for making bold and beneficial moves. Take note Ruben.— Repubrebirth
- While hard to execute, a good approach at the plate is pretty simple: swing only at a pitch in your zone until two strikes. Then dig in and fight any and all pitches near the strike zone to avoid striking out and just put the ball in play. The Phils too often did neither. Hitters like Dykstra at his best or Pujols go leave an at bat on their terms only.— mtt122
- @Repubrebirth: Great, great point. One of the reasons I looked forward to this year's Flyers is the revamping of the team, with more focus on youth and goaltending. Who knows how it will turn out, but the Flyers have a good coach and needed to stop some inmates from running the asylum. Amaro put Charlie on the hot seat; unless Manuel wanted Jimy Williams, Mike Arbuckle, Davey Lopes, and Chuck LaMar all gone himself, I think it is Amaro who should be looking in the mirror.
— 76erfn - Excellent analysis.— kenkap
- So many guys CHOKED it is pathetic. Ruben must make material changes. Do it!!!— shawnmac
- Except for HRs, did howard hit anything else to LF?— psuwelsh
- I hate when people make simple things complicated. Baseball is simple- hit the ball when you're on the offense; stop the ball when you're on the defense. The problem with the Phillies on the offense is they don't think small ball. A series of singles scores runs just as much as a homer here or there. Howard needs to learn small ball. Since this is Philly I'll use a Rocky reference- Rocky learned to fight right handed even though he's a leftie and it threw off Apollo and he eventually won. If Howard could learn to hit small he'd have a LOT fewer strikeouts and many more RBIs. I love him when he homers but there's more to the game than power hitting. That's just my .02 from watching baseball for over 40 years.— Kanayd
- Ryan Howard SUCKS!!!!— shawnmac
- @nydb, I want to respectfully ask David Murphy the same question. And if the league average was 29%, how significant is being off by less than about 5%?— dasher
- @dasher,I thought about the 5% thing too; I didn't feel like doing all the math to see how significant it might be...
and as a general question (not for Dave)...if Ryan Howard pulls the ball 42.8% of the time, why put a shift on?— nydb - While I enjoyed reading your previous articles on the Phillies' offensive offense, this was a bit much to take in. Plus, some of the points you tried to make (while trying to be humorous) jut didn't hit the mark. The Miley Cyrus and Taylor Swift analogy was just plain ridiculous. Do you really think that ANYBODY believes the Phils need to get younger for the sake of age alone? Even a little leaguer knows the younger plyer must also have some talent.
I also do not like that you appear to be making a case for the Phillies to keep most of their starting lineup, including Jimmy. You say that the team will be judged based on winning a world series. That is true to an extent. But I think fans in general also appreciate the team trying to do some different things to make that happen...not just this year but for several down the road. I do NOT agree that the Phillies should sign a bunch of mid-late 30's players, as you have suggested by the names you include. Love your stuff for the most part, but this installment was not worth the read.— MrPhillie - I had the time so I read through the whole thing. I was entertained because it took an entirely different approach.— J.J.D.
- Diversity you say how bout getting a pair of friggin glasses or contact lenses for ryan howard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!that work.....— chesterfield
- Diversity you say how bout getting a pair of friggin glasses or contact lenses for ryan howard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!that work.....— chesterfield
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- Sign Cyrus and Swift— NewMick314
- Bottom line after all the analysis of what their "problems" are...for five years they have continued to win more games each year than the season before(that is a very large sampling of 810 games)...all we are really looking at is increased expectations...a few bloop hits in a couple of post season games (the tiniest of samplings) and we would be looking at a dynasty for the ages...but that sort of result has more to do with the fickle nature of the baseball gods and the laws of probability than anything else..— stan the man too
- Interesting that I keep seeing Aramis Ramirez as one possibility for third base for the Phils. In talking to a friend of mine who is a die-hard Cubs fan (watches just about every game), he paints Ramirez as a notorious first-pitch hacker (saw fewest pitches per AB in the NL in 2011--about 3.3. Did lead in 1st-pitch HR, though--12), and terrible defensive player. No speed either. Doesn't exactly sound like the kind of hitter/player the Phillies should be courting.— dwill6
- David Murphy = Free Association.— eman
- I'm not a fantasy baseball guy, so i just checked out how this team compares with the rest. The stats don't lie, and the Phils need to make some big upgrades to bring the hitting up to the level of the pitching. Three lights out pitchers is enough. This team needs to bring no less than four new bats in the next two years that improve the age situation... Also, another fact. Charlie M chirping in their ears hasn't done anything the last couple of years. Blame on it on PEDs, age, CameraGate, whatever you want. The results just aren't there. It's a shame to waste this great pitching. Hope the GM gets it and makes the hard moves.— JRum
- If the fly balls are just as numerous, but falling short of 4-baggers, it could be that their strength has declined due to advancing age. I also think aging has cooled the fire in their bellies. JMJ for Ibby is younger and probably will be an improvement. I'd let Jimmy go for the second place they could get younger.— doc35
- Would love to see Oswalt & Blanton traded to the Yankees for Mark Teixeira. Yanks need pitching and this will open up 1st base for Pujols. Phils need a 1st baseman that hits consistently. After Howard heals-trade him. Tired of his unprofessional approach to his profession. Pujols is very talented, but headed to the Hall of Fame because of his work ethic.— CT Phil Fan
- oh my goodness, dave: how very well-thought-out. how very off-base. this is what happens when you cover a team that wins 102 games then chokes in the playoffs. because. the. phillies. choked. as they did last year. and the year before. now, if you could come up with a stat which spells out why the phillies have choked when it counts three straight years when they were wholly unchokable the year prior, i'm your man. they used to day that when there was a game where the entire season was on the line, best man on the mound was curt shilling. there are a handful of others in baseball like that. now that jimmy and chase have lost their magic powers, the phillies have none. and that's what's needed, not a bunch of meaningless numbers.— bubba church & granny hamner
- Put the same coaching staff and most of the same players and expect a different result - not gonna happen !— candidly
- Geez. Other articles on this site get roasted for lack of meaty content, so here's one with a thought-out approach and good analysis and... people can't read that much. Good comparison with Ethier because Utley's decline this season was the biggest story for the offense. Him cranking like he usually does makes the 2011 team a juggernaut, no question. And allows them to overcome the deficiency of not having offensive diversity...just a little. But a little is all they needed. The Cards lineup impressed the heck outta me. Ours didn't match up at all and won't without a healthy Utley.
NICE WORK MURPH!!!— KNuff - I think he has totally missed the boat on Rollins. I reposted the comment below because this would be painful to go and find. Rollins has over 6,800 at bats in the majors. He is not adjusting to pitchers and they have figured Rollins out. If you are a lead off hitter aren't you supposed to be hitting to reach base? I think Rollins is asking for 4 years. The Phillies will have a lot of money tied up (Probably $10 to $12 Million a year) for a .260 BA/.329 OBP hitter who is declining, demands to lead off which kills us, plays 130 games a year. Love his defense and leadership but signing Rollins will set us back years! Rent a SS until something better comes around.
"For Rollins to improve, he will have to swing as he rarely has. His on base percentage and batting average were both right around his career averages, so he was not responsible for the drop off. But if he focuses more on hitting to reach base instead of hitting for extra bases, maybe he can bolster both of those numbers."
— Bob20Philly
