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Thursday, August 28, 2008

I've received a couple emails asking why Charlie Manuel did not bring in J.C. Romero in the eighth to retire one batter and get the Phillies to the ninth. Carlos Delgado ended up tying the game with a home run off Rudy Seanez and the Mets went on to win.

It's natural in hindsight to wonder, but consider the following:

1) Romero had pitched in three straight games and in four of the last five.

2) Romero had thrown 66 pitches in those three games, the most he has thrown on consecutive days this season without a break.

3) Romero had never thrown that many pitches in consecutive games without a day off since becoming a reliever in 2002.

4) Romero had never before had three consecutive appearances throwing 20 or more pitches in each.

5) Seanez had easily retired the first two batter he faced.

I'm not saying you can't make an argument that Romero should have been in there. But after considering the aforementioned five facts, it's hard to do.

II. Other bullpen facts:

One of the big keys for the Phillies down the stretch will be getting the same performance out of a bullpen that dominated for the first three-quarters of the season. Certainly, the pen has shown some cracks lately, particularly with Tom Gordon and Rudy Seanez spending time on the disabled list. Charlie Manuel has said he is concerned about keeping his bullpen fresh.

As a whole, you wouldn't think the Phillies bullpen is "tired":

1) The Phillies bullpen has pitched 396 2/3 innings this season, the third fewest of any bullpen in the National League (Arizona, Milwaukee)

2) The average National League bullpen has thrown 419 innings.

However. . .

1) Chad Durbin has thrown 73 2/3 innings, the second most in the NL.

2) Ryan Madson has thrown 68 1/3, tied for sixth-most in the NL.

3) Madson and durbin have combined to throw the second-most innings of any pair of relievers in the league (Washington's Joel Hanrahan and Saul Rivera have combined to throw 147 2/3).

Here are some of the Phillies' more utilized relievers' statistics since Aug. 1:

Durbin: 2-0, 3.14 ERA, .294 BAA, 14 1/3 IP
Madson: 1-1, 1.93 ERA, .224 BAA, 14 IP
Lidge: 0-0, 3.12 ERA, .265 BAA, 5 Saves, 8 2/3 IP
Eyre: 1-0, 0.00 ERA, .087 BAA, 7 2/3 IP
Condrey: 0-1, 3.00 ERA, .353 BAA, 12 IP

Some other things to keep in mind:

1) Chad Durbin's 1.95 ERA is the third-best in the NL among relievers with at least 40 innings pitched.

2) J.C. Romero's 2.29 ERA is seventh best.

3) Brad Lidge's 2.30 ERA is ninth-best.

As far as the bullpen goes, the Phillies called up lefthander Fabio Castro today from Triple A Lehigh Valley and sent Andrew Carpenter back to Double A Reading. Carpenter pitched a scoreless inning in his major league debut last night against the Mets.

Castro was 0-2 with an 8.10 ERA in three games for the IronPigs after going 8-2 with a 4.40 ERA in 27 games at Reading. 

Posted by David Murphy @ 11:17 AM  Permalink | 29 comments
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Posted 11:38 AM, 08/28/2008
CyHamels
Nice job by Dubee to mess with Seanez's head before Delgado came up. How many times does a pitching coach come to the mound after the first two batters are retired in order? In my opinon, he needs to go... Give me Lehigh's pitching coach, just look what he was able to do to fixing Brett Myers season that Dubee couldn't.
Posted 11:51 AM, 08/28/2008
phairmount
Why not bring in Lidge to face Delgado, he was warming up?
Posted 12:01 PM, 08/28/2008
B in DC
Cy, Myers wasn't in LV for all that long. I think he did a start in Reading and one with Clearwater, if I'm not mistaken. David, do we know who was handling Myers in the minors, i.e. did he have someone working with him the whole time at all of his stops? I'd imagine he did, but I don't know who it was.
Posted 12:17 PM, 08/28/2008
frankenslade
Eyre was outstanding last night. The Phils stopped hitting. Let's accept the defeat and prepare for the Cubs.
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Posted 12:57 PM, 08/28/2008
wru
Part of the problem was that Manuel brought Romero into the game on Monday night when the Phillies had a 5 run lead.
Posted 12:58 PM, 08/28/2008
mebphila
or - you could have USED LIDGE to PITCH to DELGADO!! Lidge was up and ready in the bullpen, he took down Delgado on 4 sliders the night before - it was a bad job of managing the "mound". Prior to the 2 game series - most folks thought he game to win was the one on Tuesday night. Who would have thought that the Phillies would have had a "Met-like" performance then against the tougher pitcher? (Met-like in the sense that the Phillies led throughout the bulk of the game - and managed to "give it all back at the end").
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Posted 01:50 PM, 08/28/2008
pubasnacks
Isn't there some cardinal rule stating that you don't bring your closer in in a non-closing situation? Manual has broken this rule many a time this season only to see it blow up in his face. This team is where its at in the standing despite its idiotic Manager.
Posted 02:40 PM, 08/28/2008
Wally 24
FOR THE RECORD! Eyre came in and pitched 1 2/3 innings with 3 Ks, 1 DP, & a foul out for a total of 16 pitches. With left handed Delgado due up 3rd next inning it made no sense putting Seanez in at all. Delgado already had a single and Hr in 3 at bats and Eyre would have been the best pick to face him IF YOU PITCH TO HIM AT ALL. Putting Rudy in a no win situation once again did no good to the guys confidence since they already have sent him down for making mistakes late in games. Also in the bottom of the 7th of a 3 to 2 ballgame, no outs, Coste is on first, and they let Dobbs hit away. The count was 2-1 when he hit into a DP. NY walked both Rollins & Utley and Burrell grounded into a 5-3. What happened to the small ball? Dobbs should have moved the runner then they have to face the top of the order with 1 out and Coste on 2nd.
Posted 03:56 PM, 08/28/2008
EL Zorro
I don't buy the Romero logic, Dave. He's durable and he is going to face Delgado only. It's not like he is going to have and 20-pitch at bat. Bringing Romero today makes more sense when they already were thinking about calling Castro up. Also, the Cubs lineup is filled with righthanded bats, so the probability of JC pitching are less likely.
Posted 04:16 PM, 08/28/2008
RollinsWasRight
Nice job, Murph, not painting a complete pitcture. The true measure of a reliever's work load is the number of appearances, not the number of innings pitched. The time and energy expended warming up is just as taxing as pitching another full inning. The Phils bullpen is overworked because Charlie has been relying on Madson, Romero, and Durbin ahead of Lidge all year, and those guys get into too many games, regardless of how long they stay in and pitch, or how many outs they record. Romero's IP total is nowhere near indicative of his workload, and Durbin's may be misleading the other way. They really needed another quality reliever at the deadline to alleviate the pressure on those guys, who've been toting around dead weight like Clay Condrey (sorry Clay, you did do a heck of a job Tuesday, but clearly no one trusts you in a tight spot) and Rudy Seanez. Plus, they are clearly still suspect in the 8th inning.
Posted 04:18 PM, 08/28/2008
B in DC
Kinda what I thought - Myers mad 4 Minor League starts, 2 with LV, 1 at Reading, and 1 at Clearwater. I think they might have been in that order, or the CW/Reading swapped. Rod Nichols is the LV pitching coach, and he may have been the guy Myers worked with the whole time, but I'm not sure. Anyone have a theory on why Andrew Carpenter was the call-up and not someone from AAA? His WHIP at Reading is worse than Adam Eaton's.
Posted 04:28 PM, 08/28/2008
gkit
With the obvious need for a 8th inning set-up man, and the performance of Eyre so far, when does Charlie give Eyre the chance to be that guy? Personally I would, he's well rested (only pitched 19 inn. so far) gets K's and is experienced. Anyone agree?
Posted 04:36 PM, 08/28/2008
RollinsWasRight
gkit: how much time do you want to give him before you try that out? 3 appearances with the Phils is not a fair gauge, in my opinion, before trying something drastic. And the Cubs released him because he was horrible...so I have to fear the re-emergence of THAT guy sooner or later. I don't want to see it in the 8th inning, trying to hold a 1 or 2 run lead.
About David Murphy
David Murphy joined the Daily News as its Phillies beat writer in February of 2008. Born in Upper Merion and raised in the Poconos, he attended college at La Salle University before taking jobs with the Myrtle Beach (S.C.) Sun-News and the St. Petersburg ( Fla. ) Times.

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