Posted: Monday, October 13, 2008, 12:23 AM | 17 comments |
 
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I'm sure you all know the nuts and bolts, so I'll go over them quickly before getting into some meatier issues.

Jamie Moyer was knocked out of the game after allowing six runs and recording just four outs. The Phillies lost 7-2. The NLCS is now 2-1 in favor of the Phils.

On to the run down:

1) The biggest question posed to Charlie Manuel afterward is one that I'm sure that is on all of your minds. Where does this leave the Phillies for a potential Game 7? Moyer hasn't been sharp in either of his playoff starts. Take nothing away for what he did for this team during the regular season, but there is obviously some legitimate concern about sending him out to the mound for a potential Game 7 at Citizens Bank Park. Here is what Manuel had to say:

"We just have to wait. Rich Dubee and I will talk it over. . .Tonight it seemed like they kept adding on and they were really swinging on him good. But a lot of times he goes out and holds them."

A lot could depend on how Joe Blanton pitches Monday. He would be available to pitch on regular rest in Game 7, the way the rotation sets up. But nobody else would be available on longer than two days rest.

2) The melee: Shane Victorino declined to answer questions about the bench-clearing incident in the third inning. A couple Phillies said they thought they might see something from the Dodgers in retaliation for Brett Myers throwing behind Manny Ramirez in Game 2. Myers said last night that particular incident was unintentional.

"Were we expecting it? Not really," Manuel said. "But that's baseball. And you deal with that."

Manuel went on to say: "I have a problem any time you start throwing over somebody's head. There's a lot of problems. I was a player for 20 years. I got hit in the face real bad, as bad as you can get hit. And when you start to throw over people's ehad, there's a good chance people are goin to get hurt. That's not what these post-seasons are about and what baseball is about. Pitching and pitching inside and moving the ball around is all part of the game. But at the same time, you start throwing the ball up around people's head or like around their face, there's no place in baseball for that."

Manuel did say he thought the incident was over in his mind. J.C. Romero said he was trying to play peacemaker with Manny Ramirez, who had to be restrained by teammates during the incident.

3) One bright spot from tonight (there weren't many): The bullpen allowed one run in 6 2/3 innings. They've allowed just five runs all postseason.

4) Celebrity sightings: Tiger Woods, Jon Lovitz and Penny Marshall. So the A, B, and C lists were all represented. I think I also saw the guy who played the dad on the O.C. So I guess that would mean the D list was repped as well.

Posted by David Murphy @ 12:23 AM  Permalink | 17 comments
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:36 AM, 10/13/2008
    Leave Sandy Cohen out of this!
    Echo
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:19 AM, 10/13/2008
    Pat Sajack was in the first row
    robm0202
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:20 AM, 10/13/2008
    and Mary Hart read the lineups, doesn't that count as part of the E List?
    robm0202
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:35 AM, 10/13/2008
    Jon Lovitz is quite possibly the worst "comedian" to ever live. Also, I have to give credit to David Murphy for transcribing Charlie's quote into intelligible English.
    DrexelDragonFan
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:36 AM, 10/13/2008
    Let's hope for Blanton to pitch lights out tonight. Rollins needs to take his time and wait for his pitch. He's got to get it going for the Fightin's
    ChekUrFax
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:54 AM, 10/13/2008
    Cole should pitch tonight on three days rest and again game 7 on three days rest if needed
    reddevil
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:17 AM, 10/13/2008
    reddevil, Hamels would be going on full rest (4 days) for Game 7 if he were to pitch tonight. This is why tonight's start for Blanton is big because if he pitches well, he'll probably get the ball in Game 7 (if necessary) on full rest.
    jtripper
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:29 AM, 10/13/2008
    Dodger's fans are frauds. Half the stadium was empty in the first and last innings. Am I the only one who saw Russell Martin put down his middle finger when he gave the sign to Kuroda the pitch he threw over Victorino's head? Rollins looks out of it...he needs to wake up or we are in trouble.
    Lemur
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:50 AM, 10/13/2008
    When you brought up the D list, why no mention of Dan Gross ??
    mick314
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:09 AM, 10/13/2008
    Agreed, ChekUrFax. Reddevil and half the population of Phillies' fans, will you stop beating a dead horse? The idea of pitching Hamels on short rest has come up before and been answered by Charlie and by Cole. In order for someone to pitch on short rest, he needs to be eager and willing to do so - Clearly, Cole is not. Forcing him to do so seems to me a bad idea - You risk him not being in the game mentally, and we all know how important one's head is in the game of baseball. Doesn't translate into a sure pitching outing. If Cole ever becomes open to the idea, I bet he'll get the ball. Just don't count on it anytime soon.
    gbrettfan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:40 AM, 10/13/2008
    I enjoyed the interview with the dodgers catcher last night - he just shrugged and said "it was over his (shane's) head" and then inferred that its very common in baseball to throw at the other team. I always wish Jamie well and it broke my heart to see him last night after the Dodgers got all those runs.
    phan in TN
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:16 AM, 10/13/2008
    What is Martin's problem anyway? He stands there like a statue and then gets mad because the ball comes close to him? And what did Victorino do to get booed and the Dodgers mad at him, besides telling them he didn't want to get hit in the head? I've never liked the Dodgers, but at least Cey and that group were men and played baseball, instead of crying that an 84 mph ball was coming too close. And Fox, thanks for bringing us Mary Hart (who?) All of LA and that's the best you can do? Also, someone please tell Joe Buck to shut up once in a while and try to rein in his ego. Maybe one of the Phils can pretent to shoot a moon after a homer, and Joe can scream again about how "disgusting" it was.
    jefgov
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:44 AM, 10/13/2008
    Good news Fightin' Fans you do not need to deal with the worthless comments of Buck/McCarver - 1210 WPHT has finally synched up the radio broadcast with the TV broadcast. An ugly game last night but not nearly as hard to watch when you can listen to Harry, Larry and Scott.
    bird11
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:46 AM, 10/13/2008
    It's a shame Hamels isn't tougher. The correct rotation would have him pitching tonight on 3 days rest, them come back for game 7 on full rest.
    rds260


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About David Murphy
David Murphy joined the Daily News as its Phillies beat writer in February of 2008. Born in Upper Merion and raised in the Poconos, he attended college at La Salle University before taking jobs with the Myrtle Beach (S.C.) Sun-News and the St. Petersburg ( Fla. ) Times. E-mail Dave at dmurphy@phillynews.com.

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