A buyer's guide to the Philadelphia Phillies: Cole Hamels
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A buyer's guide to the Philadelphia Phillies: Cole Hamels
David Murphy, Daily News Staff Writer
We're still a month away from the thick of the flurry of deals that always occurs in advance of the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline. Right now, teams are still focused on getting their draft picks signed, a process that will finish two weeks before the deadline, thanks to the new Collective Bargaining Agreement. Because the Phillies are 9.5 games out of first place and four games under .500 and trailing a slew of teams for the two Wild Card spots, the possibility exists that they end up dealing away one or more of their attractive pieces in order to stockpile for the future. The bottom would have to completely fall out for that to happen, but the bottom falling out isn't out of the question.
Over the next few weeks, we'll write plenty about the various issues that will affect the Phillies' deadline decision makings. But first, we need to get a firm handle on the return the Phillies should expect should they decide to deal.
When you really look at the situation, you'll see that the likely choice that Ruben Amaro Jr. will face is not whether to buy or sell, but whether to buy or stay put. The reason? The Phillies just don't have the kind of chips that would land them a package of players that offers a definitive facelift for the franchise.
When you look at the past performance of the trade market, you can organize each potential trade chip into a category.
Here is how I define them:
Level I - A first division top-of-the-rotation starter or first division middle-of-the-order hitter who is under club control beyond the current season, with their actual value a mixture of their performance on the field, their annual salary, and the number of years before they hit free agency. Think Cliff Lee or Roy Oswalt or Hunter Pence before they were traded to the Phillies.
Usual asking price: A Top 50 prospect plus two or three other players that includes either a Top 100 prospect, a near-major-league ready pitcher, or a young high-ceiling prospect.
Level II - A top-of-the-rotation starter who will be a free agent after the season. Think C.C. Sabathia before he was traded to the Brewers or Cliff Lee before he was traded to the Rangers. Or a young, controllable starter who is not a projected top-of-the-rotation guy.
Usual asking price: A Top 50 prospect, plus two or three lesser prospects that are fringe organizational Top 10 prospects.
Level III - A first division middle-of-the-order hitter who will be a free agent after the season. Think Carlos Beltran before he was traded to the Giants or Mark Teixeira before he was traded to the Angels. Also falling into this category are top-of-the-order hitters who are under control beyond the current season.
Usual asking price: A Top 50 prospect, a near-major-league-ready piece, or a combination of solid but not elite prospects.
Level IV - A first division back-of-the-bullpen, strikeout arm or first division middle-of-the-rotation starter who is under control beyond the current season or a first division top-of-the-order hitter who will be a free agent after the season.
Usual asking price: A good, perhaps fringe Top 100 prospect, or a combination that includes two solid prospects (usually among an organization's Top 10).
Level V - Level IV players who will be free agents after the season.
Usual asking price: A solid prospect outside or on the fring of the Org's Top 10 or combination of lesser prospect.
Level VI - Everybody else.
Usual asking price: Salary relief, spare parts
Here is how I rate the attractiveness of the potential trade chips in the Phillies' organization:
1. Cole Hamels (Level II): A bona fide No. 1 starter, the kind of pitcher who can turn an above average team into a playoff team (see C.C. Sabathia with the Brewers in 2008), a good team into a contending team (see Roy Oswalt with the Phillies in 2010), and a very good team into a title favorite (see Cliff Lee with the Phillies in 2009).
2. Hunter Pence (Level I/II): He is not a centerpiece player, but he reaches base, hits for power, and is under club control through next season, three things that figure to be in short supply this year.
3. Vance Worley (Level II/III): He is young, he isn't arbitration eligible until after next season, and he has had a damn fine start to his career. How high his stock is will depend on whether the bone chip and elbow inflammation he has suffered from becomes a problem again.
4. Shane Victorino (Level IV): Plenty of teams could use a center fielder who can lead off and hit with decent power, but he will be a free agent at the end of the season.
5. Trevor May (Top 50 prospect): Already a Top 75 prospect according to Baseball America, the right-hander has drawn positive reviews for his performance at Double-A Reading.
6. Domonic Brown (near-major-league-ready): Plenty of scouts still like what they see and think that Brown has suffered from a bout of Triple-A-itis.
7. Joe Blanton (Level V/VI): The market for his services will depend a lot on how he performs over this next month. After posting a 2.96 ERA in his first eight starts, he has allowed at least five runs in each of his last five. A free agent at the end of the season who will be owed somewhere in the neighborhood of $3.5 million at the deadline.
8. Jim Thome (Level VI): He has given talent evaluators reason to believe that he can still contribute in a DH role. But his back is an issue.
9. Ty Wigginton (Level VI): A low-budget American League team looking for a cheap bone to throw to its fan base could have some use for a right-handed DH/bench type who has some power.
Off the board: Carlos Ruiz isn't worth discussing because of the value the Phillies place on his game-calling. Jimmy Rollins has 10 and 5 rights, which means he can refuse any trade, and there is no reason to think he wouldn't do so, even if someone was willing to take on his contract. Placido Polanco isn't likely to garner much interest because of his health issues.
EDIT, 12:05 p.m. -- There was some question about Cliff Lee in the comments section. Lee can block trades to all but nine teams, which would likely block any possible move. That clause could be waived, but seeing as though Lee took less money to come to Philly, it's hard to imagine him OKing a deal to the Yankees or Red Sox or Dodgers, who are the only three contenders I can think of who would be able to accomodate his salary. Besides, the Phillies signed Lee for a reason less than two years ago, he has pitched at the level they expected him to pitch, so I don't see why they would all of a sudden turn around and try to deal him.
Hamels, clearly, is the player who could most impact a postseason race, which means he is the player who can likely garner the biggest return. Below is a look at how his season compares to the ones Lee and Sabathia were having at the time they were traded away just months before free agency, as well as a look at the players they garnered.
| Player | Age | Control | GS | RelApp | IP | ERA | K/9 | BB/9 |
| Cole Hamels | 28 | FA | 13 | 0 | 89 | 3.34 | 9.3 | 1.9 |
| Cliff Lee | 31 | FA | 13 | 0 | 103.2 | 2.34 | 7.7 | 0.5 |
| CC Sabathia | 27 | FA | 18 | 0 | 122.1 | 3.83 | 9.0 | 2.5 |
Lee return, along with reliever Mark Lowe:
| Prospect | Age | Level | BA100 | Org | Notes |
| 1B Justin Smoak | 23 | AAA | 13 | 2 | Blue-chip, was hitting .209/.316/.353, 8 HR in 275 MLB PAs |
| SP Blake Beavan | 21 | AA/AAA | NR | NR | Command/control near MLB ready command/control, Org8 2 yrs earlier |
| RP Josh Lueke | 25 | A/AA/AAA | NR | NR | Strikeout armed reliever |
| IF Matthew Lawson | 24 | AA | NR | NR | Was hitting .293/.372/.439, 9 HRs in minors |
Sabathia return:
| Prospect | Age | Level | BA100 | Org | Notes |
| 1B Matt LaPorta | 23 | AA | 23 | 1 | Blue chip power hitter |
| SP Zach Jackson | 25 | AAA | X | X | 7.85 ERA, 10 GS, 20 rel, 5.3 K/9, 2.8 BB/9 in minors that year |
| RP Rob Bryson | 20 | A | X | X | 4.25 ERA, 55 IP, 11.9 K/9, 3.3 BB/9 in minors that year |
The two deals were similar in that they both included a power-hitting first baseman ranked in the Top 25 of the Baseball America 100 that season. But none of the other five players in the two deals were ranked in the organization's Top 10 by Baseball America before the season. Both deals included a player with a pitching tool that could fill a role on a big league staff, supplemented by players without much projectability.
Neither Smoak nor LaPorta has come close to living up to his hype thus far. Beavan is the quintessential command/control pitcher that a second-division team can pitch at the back of its rotation in the hopes of getting some cheap production. He has made 12 starts this year with an ERA in the 5's. None of the other players have done much of anything.
Factor in the production the Phillies have gotten out of the prospects they landed in the head-scratching Cliff Lee deal, and you'll see why it might be better to err on the side of hoping for a second-half run than selling off.
At later dates, we'll continue to take a look at the other pieces the Phillies have available.
I wouldn't trade Victorino, May or Worley unless it was a package to dump Blanton / Polanco or other doorstop. Everyone else is for sale. Relocator
Moving Hamels and/or Pence would be a short term move that they would quickly regret next season because the team would be worse than they are today. Hamels has to stay. Pence has to stay. Lee has to go. Make it happen. This year's mess is because of injuries and poor planning. Get a LFer and 3rd baseman in the off season and next year suddenly looks sunny. sfofan
Phils are ONLY 4 games below .500. Don't Panic. Look at last 2 seasons and who won the WS. Get rid of CM!!!!!! philsfansince1946
Just relax and hang on everybody, lets chat again in a month after this team comes out of its funk. i'm still hopeful they have a run in them, and it would be foolish to assume they're dead and buried at this point. let's at least wait until halladay, howard, and utley come back. i know they're laying motionless in the coffin at the moment, but the lid isn't shut just yet! CosmoK- David - Is Halladay off the list for the same reason as Lee ... where Halladay's "favored nation" no-trade clause (love that one) kicked his no-trade up to Lee's level when Lee was signed? I'm not sure if that's correct or not.
No-trade clauses aside, the logic of trading Lee or Halladay and signing Hamels is age. If you're going to sell and start over younger, maybe waiting a year or two to really get back in it, there's not much logic in keeping your two oldest aces versus keeping the one who's 5 years younger. The window for Halladay and Lee is closing. They also realize their WS chance are waning and might also not feel so great about suddenly being on a rebuilding team versus a contending team. If either guy feels like the chances of winning it all in Philly are now slim, I think they'd waive their no-trade clause to try and get a ring. s
Ruben has this team in purgutory hell in that they have to keep all the old guys and trade away the only good players under 30 (pence and hamels) ronin32- I'd also add what a few others have said: Hamels' price may have come down a bit with these last 4 starts. But I also have more concerns that he could have a physical issue that rears its ugly head after the big check is signed. s
Just say NO Seal Rock
did you seriously write this with no opinion on potential suitors?? jeez what a waste of a read spittooncj
They haven't signed him because Rube is hiding that Cole will soon be on the DL with elbow or shoulder problems. sonnybuoy01- why are we talking about dismantling a team on June 14th with 98 games left to play??? the talk should be about keeping Hamels and trying to get healthy...some Phillie fans are a joke...
lee is not the best trade chip, hamels is...David murphy just explained why dreinterests
The last time the Phillies were sellers (2006) it set the stage for 5 straight division crowns. On their current trajectory, we are in for years of pain and sorrow as they are full of old and fading players. Gotta love those who think they can still hold on to Hamels. They had a choice between 5 years of Howard (ages 32-36) or 5 years of Hamels (ages 29-33) and Ruben made the dumb choice. The Hamels ship has sailed unfortunately so they might as well get what they can for him and since I'm a big fan of his, I'll still have something to pay attention to in October. jtj06- I agree but to me, it's always been that they can't keep three aces. Three was only doable for a short window which, barring some miracle, they've now missed. They can afford two aces. If that's the case, why keep the two oldest aces? Maybe it works with some of the young arms coming up. But you also have two guys who signed up to win rings now on a team that's not going there for at least a year or two.
For those banking on this second half run, just don't go near any calculators. The word "epic" would have to be involved, either with other teams collapsing or the Phillies suddenly finding that missing light switch. s


