A different perspective on Halladay
Veteran reliever Chad Durbin on Halladay.
A different perspective on Halladay
Ryan Lawrence, Daily News Staff Writer
Quick: name the only reliever in camp to have a 2008 World Series ring.
It’s Chad Durbin, of course. The veteran reliever, who first arrived to Philly before the ’08 season, is back for his second tour of duty with the team in 2013.
Durbin is scheduled to come out of the ‘pen tonight in Tampa against the New York Yankees. The 35-year-old Durbin has already pitched in four spring games, with mixed results.
In his first two appearances, Durbin didn’t allow a run, gave up just one hit and struck out two while walking none. In his last two, Durbin has given up four runs on six hits in two innings.
When asked about his spring, Durbin gave an interesting answer, even invoking Roy Halladay’s off-kilter performance from Tuesday into his explanation.
“I think I started too well in the first couple and then, two or three pitches into the last two outings, I’ve had guys on second and third, and then it’s like, all right, let me try to get out of this,” Durbin said. “You have a game plan going -- I think it’s kind of like what happened to Doc yesterday -- you have this game plan going and you’re only going to throw a majority of heaters and try to get some fastball command, and then all of a sudden you’re trying not to let runs score, and then, in turn you let some runs score because you try to hit the accelerator and it just hasn’t been hit yet.
“So you try to make some pitches and you come off of it… it’s a good process. And it doesn’t matter how long you’ve been doing it, you try to go get it and it’s just not there yet. And then it makes you go back to the drawing board, ‘OK what do I need to do.’ I feel like my stuff, my bullpens have been great. My stuff’s been solid. It’s just a matter of going out there and pitching more.”
Here are the lineups for the Phils and Yanks, including a familiar name hitting fifth for an injury-ravaged New York team.
PHILS
- Ben Revere, CF
- Kevin Frandsen, DH
- Chase Utley, 2B
- John Mayberry Jr., 1B
- Domonic Brown, RF
- Darin Ruf, LF
- Josh Fields, 3B
- Freddy Galvis, SS
- Humberto Quintero, C
Cliff Lee will start, with Durbin, Zach Miner, Justin De Fratus and Mike Stutes also scheduled to pitch.
YANKS
- Derek Jeter, SS
- Ichiro Suzuki, LF
- Kevin Youkilis, 3B
- Juan Rivera, 1B
- Ben Francisco, RF
- Matt Diaz, DH
- Chris Stewart, 1B
- Melky Mesa, CF
- Gil Velazquez, 2B
Andy Pettitte is starting for New York on the mound.
Comments (27)
I dislike Chollie and Dubee as much as (more than) the next guy, but blaming them for Halladay losing it is probably unfair... I blame Rube for thinking that an aging pitcher with a lot of career innings is worth getting rid of Cliff Lee AND 3 additional prospects for AND committing 4 years to ($80 mil), and gloating about the big "catch" while failing to put together a 25-man roster with a bullpen, bench, balance and depth capable of winning in the post-season before the aging stars became washed-up...
in retrospect the $80 million and prospects for 2 good years of Halladay did NOT pay off, because Clueless Rube failed to do what was necessary to win in 2010 and 2011 and then in 2012 and 2013 showed he isn't even trying but is too afraid to d anything to either compete now or to build for the future so he's just blowing both the present and the future— warbiscuit- JABRONI - ALERT!
Total idiot way of looking at things as usual. Most intelligent fans appreciate the acquisition of Halladay and the reasoning behind it. Explaining it to a Jabroni is a waste of breath. And I like Charlie and Dubee... I've watched hem help the Phillies win a ton of games.
RAJ - 4 years as GM - 1st,1st,1st, and 3rd. Of course we all want another World Series, but who (our than a Jabroni) can blame a GM for his players getting hurt? And old? Please, these guys are younger than he Yankee core that won in 2009.
Jabroni- Please take your negative, idiotic thoughts over to NY....hats where u belong.— cdedrick05 - Well said. Only an idiot would have anything bad to say about Halladay or RAJ for acquiring him. RAJ helped build the team that won the most games ever for this organization (2011) but was caught in a slump at the wrong time to prevent them from the WS that was rightly theirs. Before 2008, everyone would have traded 20 years of last place just to see what a championship win was like - boy, how winning that championship has changed these fraudulent fans. Philadelphia fans are disgusting in the way that they complain about EVERYTHING! "The Phillies won't spend money" (before 2009) - "The Phillies spend too much money and waste their farm system." "The Eagles have the most cap space of any team" (early Reid years) - "The Eagles waste money on signing free agents who don't live up to expectations." Although there are exceptions, Philly has the worst fans of any city. Who else would boo Hamels during his FIRST start of the year after he was the WS MVP? A few years ago, I was proud to wear my Philly sports gear around other cities, now all I hear about is how I am associated with the low life fans who cheer Jayson Werth when he gets hurt on another team. — hoyaray
- At least we don't have to blame dogbiscuit for being a dope. All anyone has to do is try to read that stupid S to see it. You miserable old F.— PhillySubsMac
- just what one needs to do for meaningful life. Watch sports everday, doing little else, and blame somebody for something everyday.
yo.....it's fun....you're supposed to be having fun. Have you even played sports most of you. You're just displaying a negative world view. it gets old, and gives Philly fans a bad rap.— retzlaff - If the Phils can't run on that lineup they'll never be able to.— Phlflyer1
- actually Halladay won few big games for Phils ... yes he won a Cy Young and had 2 good regular seasons for Phils, but in big games and post-seasons he had one no-hitter and the other times was generally medciocre --nowhere near the big game success that Hamels amd Lee had ..in 2010 he got bombed in big games against Yankees and RedSox when Phils season seemed at issue (precipitating trade for Oswalt) and he then blew the 2010 NLCS game 1 to SF with a poor effort that sealed Phils fate (Phls have never won a post-season series after losing game 1)...in 2011 NLDS fans like to blame Lee for game 2 but bottom line is that the series then was simply 1-1 and it still came down to Game 5 with Halladay getting outpitched and losing in first innning ... indeed Carpenter had an even worse game 2 than Lee in game 2 but came back to be a hero so we'll never know whether Lee might have done better (result could not have been worse as a loss is alas a loss) ... bottom line, Halladay did not win the crucial games in 2010 and 2011 and has never been to a WS for that reason ..he was a costly acquisition and it is now clear that it never paid off .. whether or not he's a good guy or whether it's his "fault" that he's now in decline, Phils owe a lot more to Hamels and Lee who carried them to WS in 2008 and 2009 respectively
Cliff Lee's teams went 8-3 in his 11 post-season starts and he was generally brilliant in each of those 8; Halladay went 3-2 in his 5 post-season starts (with one of his wins mediocre; only one of his wins worthy of note...and indeed the same day Halladay threw his no-hitter, Lee threw a comparable masterpiece for Texas)— warbiscuit - in 2009 Lee had 5 great post-season starts for Phils (1.56 era, 5 Phils wins)
then 2010: 10/6/10 NLDS gm 1 Halladay wins 4-0 (no-hitter);
10/6/10 ALDS gm 1 Lee wins 5-1 over favored Rays (10k's, 0 bb's)
ALDS gm 5 Lee wins dciding gm 5 over Rays (9 inn, 0 runs)
NLCS Gm 1 Halladay Loses Gm 1 to Giants (4 runs)
ALDS Gm 3 Lee wins at NYYankeees 8-0, 8 inn, 13 k's, 0 runs
(Lee then lost in WS)
so for 2010 post-season, Lee pitched 3 brilliant games, Halladay 1;
that gives Lee 8 brilliant post-season games in which his team won; Halladay 1 ... a 1-0 loss in a deciding game is alas a loss
in 2011 both Halladay and Lee were top 4 for Cy Young with Halladay, a more consistent and Lee with more shutouts and more brilliant games; we'll never know how the Phils might have fared with Lee pitching 2 games in NLDS instead of Halladay, but the result (NLDS loss) could not have been worse
then in 2012 Lee was still top 10 starter; Halladay 43rd in era and looked (and looks) washed up— warbiscuit - yes it's a shame that Clueless Rube squandered 2009, 2010, and 2011 seasons by not getting the necessary complementary players (bullpen, bench, depth, balance) and instead remained content to make his big name 'splash' each July and then sit tight instead of evaluating the team's needs and filling the glaring issues that would obviously sink Phils in each of those post-seasons, like a competent g.m. should do-- so the imbecile merely destroyed the franchise without any post-season success (what, you ask? having Pedro as your no. 2 starter and a closer with a 7.0 era wouldn't work in 09? having no bench or bullpen didn't work in '10? not helping a shaky offense and awful bench didn't work in '11? who woulda thunk it?)— warbiscuit
- @warbiscuit. Halladay and Lee have been worth the money. They don't have Cy Young Awards for nothing. You can argue that the Phil's would have been better hanging onto a Gio Gonzalez for instance, but it is what it is. Top notch pitchers cost money and will get paid. Plus they don't all get to the World Series and come out with a victory.— dross
- I'm all for "win now" strategies...but needed a g.m. with a clue how to evaluate players and team needs and who could put together a 25-man roster with bench, bullpen, balance and depth capable of winning in the post-season, and not just a clueless empty suit to waste the team's money and prospects on a few big "names" with top-heavy, deeply flawed rosters ... with an incompetent g.m., all you get is a team depleted of all its money and prospects with nothing to show for it ..that's why Rube should be fired -- for squandering 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012 as much as for 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016, etc— warbiscuit
- everybody likes to attack the realists who tell it like it is, but I've been accurate about Phils roster and expectations last year and this one ... naive partisan fans can defend the clueless g.m. --who history records that he destroyed the frnachise and had no post-season success -- they can delude themselevs that the overpaid over-the-hill former stars still have it, but unfortunately that won't help the Phils be a competitive baseball team in the forseeable future— warbiscuit
- and now for 2013:
2 good starters and 3 question marks/mediocre starters
1 good set-up reliever, 1 non-reliable closer, 5 question marks
8 starting hitters all major question marks/mediocre players
1 strategically-challenged manager
1 confirmed imbecile as g.m— warbiscuit - Relax - Everything will be fine . . .— majpooper
- guys....just ignore the bisquit! It's not worth it. He's like my aunt's little chihuahua who stands in front of a mirror sees himself, thinks it's another dog and goes ballistic barking and jumping around looking at himself. Don't you guys realize that most of this is just one bisquit personality arguing with another? Ignore it.
Oh....and Durbin's so wrong here it ain't even funny. Doc had NOTHING working and couldn't have gotten out his American legion team yesterday. There's trouble in River City.........— Mark1npt
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