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Collins: Bynum 'might be best low-post center'

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Collins: Bynum 'might be best low-post center'

Filed Under: 76ers | Olympics
POSTED: Friday, August 10, 2012, 3:01 PM
Sixers coach Doug Collins talks to his former player Andre Iguodala before the U.S. plays Argentina. (Photo by Phil Sheridan)

LONDON -- Sixers coach Doug Collins was broadcasting the Olympic semifinal between Spain and Russia when it became official. The NBA office had approved the stunning four-team deal that brings center Andrew Bynum to Philadelphia.

To say Collins was happy would be understating it. The only possible negative is that he has to wait a couple months to get his radically rebuilt team on a basketball court.

Collins had a lot to say. Here's some quick hits. There will be more in The Inquirer and here on philly.com tomorrow.

On big changes after a good season: "I thought it was incredible what our guys did. I thought we maxed out our time. For us to take the next step, we were going to have to make some changes. One of the keys one was having to amnesty Elton (Brand). It was the only way to get any flexibility. I think a lot of people felt like we were doing all these things for salary cap room next year, but we had in our sights, could we get in the (mix) for Andrew Bynum. He might be the best low-post center in the NBA. You can throw the ball into him, he can score, he can defend, he can rebound. He's from New Jersey and I think he was looking forward to coming back East."

On the impact: "We think we've gotten bigger on the front line. We're more athletic. We're bigger on the perimeter, we've added shooting. All the things we set out to do, we think we've done that. Miami is still obivously the class of the East, but we think we can line up and play with most teams now."

How it came together: "We had three teams that we locked in to doing it. But Orlando was looking for a home for Dre. At the last minute, Denver came into the picture to be the fourth team. For them to move Dre and get Aflalo and Harrington was the thing that really pushed it over the top and got them to do the deal."

On being aggressive: "The thing I love is our owner has been very, very committed to making things happen. Amnestying EB was a big thing. You have to be realistic when a team is maxed out and make changes. Josh Harris and I always talk about intelligent risk. His business is built on intelligent risks, and we think we've taken a lot of intelligent risks.

On the departure of Andre Iguodala, traded to Denver: "We're going to miss Dre. The thing I'm happy for Dre about -- the last two years, he finished on an uptick. What he did to help us win, the Chicago game where he goes the length of the floor and makes to free throws to put us into the next round, the way he defended (against Boston in the second round). I wish Dre well. He's been on a world championship team, he's been on the all-defensive team, he's been an All-Star, he has a chance to win a gold medal. The two years I've known him, good things have happened for him."

On Iguodala's reaction: "I'm going to talk to him before the (U.S.-Argentina semifinal) game here. My son Chris saw him in the hotel today. He said, `Dad, he's fine. He was in good spirits.' We had to wait until it went through. The conference call just went through. I'm going to thank Dre for everything and wish him well. It's interesting how things work. I believe we open up with Denver."

On getting a dominant center: "You've got to have a good big man. You have to be able to throw that ball in the post."

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Comments  (37)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:19 PM, 08/10/2012
    DC, I LOVE YOU!
    dudega
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:18 PM, 08/10/2012
    it would be nice to get a quote from bynum on his thoughts of the trade.. hopefully he doesnt intend to pull a crybaby sulking act like odom did in dallas.
    zwarte piet
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:47 PM, 08/10/2012
    WOW. Did not see this one coming. Bynum is the best big man in the league. He was third option at best on the lakers and now, he should be the first option and show what he is all about. The only complaints I've heard is that he is in his final year. But so was Iggy. I would rather one year with Bynum then one more year with Iggy. Moreover, these critics assume we can't sign him to long term. He is a local guy, and following the new new owners focus on the history of this franchise, point out that this is the team that brought you Wilt, the greatest big man of all time, and Moses, who brought us the championship. He can make his own legacy in the 4th largest media market, in his own backyard. He can be compelled and if not, at least we can see how this team can play with a real big man. I love this trade. I haven't been this excited since Croce took AI with the first pick in 1996.
    Fo Fo Fo
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:20 PM, 08/10/2012
    Of all the new people in management, I think Josh Harris is the key. This guy is willing to roll the dice if it is worth while. Think back just a couple years ago when we had Snyder and Stefanski running the show to now. Bynam could be a superstar very soon!
    Bobby V
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:38 PM, 08/10/2012
    Agreed...while some may not have liked what the Sixers did towards spending available monies after the amnestying of EB, they still sheared $18.5 million by doing that.(and remained on the hook for like $16 million after the Mavericks got him)....Basketball people make basketball decisions...Harris stepped up, allowing moves to be made...hope it all works out.
    bearsfriend
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:32 PM, 08/10/2012
    Great stuff getting honest comments, especially after going through the CIA/James Bond "codes of secrecy" through the Pre-Draft, and then the moratorium through Free Agency in early July....wish DC could have been asked if Harkless was drafted at #15 with the intention of moving him to the Magic...as the Magic was known to be interested in him at #19 in many mock drafts....Through much of the Summer many fans were somewhat miffed by certain moves, but "calculated risks" have seemed to payoff in what obviously was a conscientious effort to land a monster big...Although it's early, wondering if DC still plans to experiment with Hawes as a "stretch 4", or is he a 6.5 million dollar insurance policy? (can't be traded till December 15th)...Also, is Thad Young still on the "bulkup plan", and can he be trusted by DC to handle the 4 paired with that low post monster, who will both provide an aide to stretching the floor on offense,bring double teams, and pose as a ferocious rebounder defensively, taking pressure off Young....Last, as Iggy moves on, like Lou in early July, the Sixers are left with but 2 trusted ballhandlers to intitiate...More moves to come?
    bearsfriend
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:39 PM, 08/10/2012
    Richardson makes a good outside shooter to bring instant Lou points. Andrew is way overweight and has bad knees and ankles but if if if he gets serious, loses some weight and will follow Doug's orders, this kid could be very good. He will have to be very disciplined: which he was not in Lakers-land. If they use him correctly, he will be a monster in the middle and with Thad , Lavoy, Moultrie, he will get lots of rebounds. And he can score 16 plus points a night , again, if used correctly.
    Koons
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:41 PM, 08/10/2012
    Not going out on a limb to say this, but assuming Bynum is healthy, he figures to get enough touches to score in between 22-24 points a game, and garner 11-13 rebounds...He WILL be option #1, with insane athleticism to even score when plays are NOT run for him.
    bearsfriend
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:41 PM, 08/10/2012
    Now go and make Kate Fagen an offer she can`t refuse
    Pearchair
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:41 PM, 08/10/2012
    They look really nice for next year. The best true Center in the NBA when he's healthy, an emerging PG in Jrue, much needed shooters like Richardson, Young and Wright. Turner's development is key though -- it be nice to see him take his game to the next level.
    gordon7
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:46 PM, 08/10/2012
    This is great for Sixers, but it speaks as to the hypocracy of the NBA. What does Orlando get out of this deal? For that matter what did Memphis get out of the deal for Paul Gasol? It's like the NY Yankees and Pittsburgh Pirates acting as the NYY own personal farm system. Pirates never get better and NYY continue to restock.

    Same goes with NBA. Stern is so happy to have Lakers stay relavant. Now if he could only get the Knicks to bot be..., well the Knicks.

    And finally, it's a shame that the DIVA Miss Dwight Howard got his way. He's such a wuss...
    IrishJoe
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:53 PM, 08/10/2012
    I'm baffled by people that don't think this is a brilliant move.

    And bearsfriend, I think you're right to point out the 12/15 date, as the team is almost certain to look different after that than before.
    evolutionary
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:09 PM, 08/10/2012
    Not that I want to see it often, maybe just once or twice a month, but it's nice to have the option to go super big with 3 7 footers - Hawes, Brown and Bynum. When was the last time the Sixers - a team that seemed comprised of 6-7 swingmen for the last decade - able to do that?
    Iron Giant
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:13 PM, 08/11/2012
    Vuc was a seven footer...Hawes, Brown, and Vucovic were three seven footers before the Bynum trade. The sixes didn't get taller but they got bigger because Bynum weights 285 lbs.
    fafink
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:18 PM, 08/10/2012
    irishjoe, the NBA declined to give the lakers Chris Paul.
    Flyers2001
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:30 PM, 08/10/2012
    I'm a Lakers season ticket holder, but a Sixers fan first. Bynum is extremely immature and injury prone. His attitude is horrible and he's not someone you want to root for. DC has some major work ahead of him in getting through to this kid.
    phoenix78
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:14 PM, 08/10/2012
    Duly noted.
    bearsfriend
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:32 PM, 08/10/2012
    Iron Giant: I mentioned that possibility elsewhere, much like the Lakers two seasons ago with Odom, Bynum, and Gasol, the human tree trunks.
    chuckw
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:54 PM, 08/10/2012
    intelligent risks? I like that. DC may finally win a championship (I am not a basketball fan of DC. But I will be rooting for his success). 16 million? It is nothing. Think about it. Sixers will probably sell out or nearly sell out for 2012-2013 season (and possibly another five season after that). That is truly intelligent risks to take.
    Josh has a whole sense.
    People who are successful in the past are more likely going to be successful in the future. I like Sixers chances.
    cchere
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:06 PM, 08/10/2012
    Bynum and gasol were not happy playing with Bryant in LA. It has to do with busting your hump down in the trenches and then watching the selfish Bryant shoot 30 shots a game. Anyone who has played on the same team as a Kobe Bryant can relate to this. Bryant's selfish play was an issue in LA,even Phil Jackson made comments regarding Bryant's style of play. Bynum's attitude could be a reflection of this discontent. I expect Bynum to do well in the Sixers team oriented offense.
    Beck
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:11 PM, 08/10/2012
    I hope one of these reporters asks Bynum if he still plans to go to Germany next month for that Orthokine regenerative surgery Kobe had
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:12 PM, 08/10/2012
    Its an amazing move.. I just wouldnt have given Orlando Harkless packaged with a first round pick to go along with the one we gave to miami. Truth is if the Sixers lose him next year it will hurt.
    Zeru
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:27 PM, 08/10/2012
    Losing the draft picks in the trade isn't really a huge problem. If we lose Bynum this team will probably struggle to get out of the league's basement as constructed. The picks are lottery protected, so we'd be able to keep high draft choices and rebuild that way. If we don't lose Bynum and end up winning lots, we only lose the chance to draft future role players, which we can get in free agency.
    OutofTownPhillyFan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:16 PM, 08/10/2012
    Who do you all think will be moved after 12/19? Hawes? Kwame? Wright? Nick Young? That's like $18 million right there. $21 if you throw in Lavoy. Thad could be packaged if they can get a better player. I'd keep an eye on how happy Kevin Love is in Minnesota, Chris Paul in LA, Josh Smith in Atlanta etc. Hopefully it's Philly's time to build a super-team and outside of Bynum I'd trade anybody else to get more all-stars here but I'd like to keep certain pieces if possible (Moultrie, Jrue if they plan on giving him the max). Look for players to want to come to Philly to play alongside Bynum especially if he re-signs in the summer.
    joecooler2u
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:40 PM, 08/10/2012
    hawes and kwame for sure i think will be gone. if brown plays well maybe they will keep him because hes cheap, but hawes is gone. i dont think they will get rid of young or wright because their contracts will expire at the end of the year anyways. that 18 mil you speak of will go to bynum and jrue (say 10 more million in salary for both combined) so that leaves 8 million left. if they trade richardson also, they will have enough money to throw to josh smith, al jefferson, paul milsap, among others. i imagine if any pf jrue, turner, or thad plays poorly with bynum, theyl be gone too. imagine a starting lineup of bynum, smith, thad, turner, and jrue with allen, moultrie, and others coming off the bench. that will be a championship contending lineup.
    HDemetriou
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:20 PM, 08/10/2012
    In other news Meeks is now a Laker.
    joecooler2u
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:38 PM, 08/10/2012
    Typo 12/15...Meeks now a Laker so he'll be playing with Dwight Howard, Kobe, Gasol, Nash. The rich get richer. He just better hit his 3's! lol Hopefully Bynum is a start to building a super-team here in Philly. If he re-signs you have to explore building around him even if you gotta give up youth. Nothing is guaranteed even with a super-team took Miami 2 years. Expecting a Lakers/Heat finals next season. Don't count out the old teams which are still sticking around (Spurs & Celtics) and OKC which is young and getting better with experience. Durant, Harden & Westbrook are getting good Olympic experience. So where does Bynum/Richardson put us in the standings? Orlando is out of the playoff picture, Brooklyn hasn't won anything yet or even gotten to the playoffs, New York was only 1 game better than us in the regular season pre-Bynum. We almost took the Celtics out again pre-Bynum. Chicago might not make the playoffs with Rose missing most of next season. Expect Doug, Rod and ownership to do whatever it takes to keep Bynum happy and wanting to come back. This team still could look very different even from what it is right now.
    joecooler2u
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:40 PM, 08/10/2012
    Turner and Hawes still have room to develop their games. For that matter, so does Jrue. This is a very nice nucleus, and adding Bynum makes everything else look better.
    Porcu
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:56 PM, 08/10/2012
    The move is expensive (4 first round picks-if you realize that Iggy, Vuc..,Harkless were Philly 1st rounders), risky, but definitely worth taking. Management realized that the team got to the second round with a lot of guts, luck and good coaching, but it needed better shooters and a low post presence. The signings and trade have addressed these problems admirably. I'll miss Iggy, but I think that the team improved to the point that they may be the 3rd best team in the East. I'd rather have this team than the Celtics, Knicks, Indiana or Toronto. We'll see.
    hbs1
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:40 PM, 08/10/2012
    You don't drive a Bentley everyday. Sit Bynum for 25-30 games. Get him down to 260-270. That front court looks really, Really good. I like the deal.
    combocancer1975
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:43 PM, 08/10/2012
    I could not believe they signed Brand after the Webber fiasco.

    Iggy was a very good athlete but never excelled at basketball skills. He was a valuable defender, but not a franchise level player. Bynum could potentially become an anchor for the next ten years of sixer competitiveness. Now they have to get that other superstar and I don't mean Rudy Gay, Danny Granger, Luol Deng or Andre Igoudala. They are all-star level players but not superstar caliber. I say tank next season and try to get that number one pick.
    2sides2story
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:10 PM, 08/10/2012
    The Sixers gave up too much for Andrew who is still a work in progress at his position.Maybe here he can become a dominant center that he was not in Los Angeles.Like a previous commenter said if he becomes the first option and being home along with playing for a new contract could all factor into a great year for him and the sixers.
    Andrew Grier
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:25 AM, 08/11/2012
    I would like to thank the Sixers ownership in all of this for putting their money where their mouth is. This isn't the NFL, when then amnestied Brand, they're still on the hook for his salary minus what the Mavs are paying him. So in addition to paying salaries to the cap, they're on the hook for an additional 16 million this year. That really shows a financial commitment that you want to see out of your ownership. They've owned the team for just over a year, and have completely remade the team, and washed away the stench of Ed Stefanski (and Billy King), and made many of us happy Sixers fans. I started going back to games last year, and will definitely go to more this year, because they've done a really good job of putting a good product on the court.
    mjc1
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:58 PM, 08/11/2012
    after talking to some OLD HEADS about this trade, these cats watched Wilt and Bill battle long before i knew what a basketball was, this is what might get lost in the talks about getting Bynum, we kept our guards in place, these two youngsters have a chance to feed a dominant big man for the first time, shots will be open for them and the more you shoot the better you get and i was reminded that when Shaq went to miami the best guy on the team was a guard. when the OLD HEADS see good things ahead i feel good. im not saying we are the heat YET!! but when a little brother has a BIG brother to back him up...... you know!
    sube
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:51 PM, 08/11/2012
    Doug Thanks for helping to PULL THE TRIGGER on THIS DEAL !!! johnnyu
    john ullman
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:27 PM, 08/11/2012
    Im happy for Iggy, old friend and new teamate Andre Miller will make him feel right at home
    chalton harley
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:29 PM, 08/11/2012
    Like the deal. Bynam is young and Collins will motivate and give him proper coaching and direction.
    WestConshy


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