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Fans split on Iguodala's future

POSTED: Friday, June 1, 2012, 10:02 AM
Andre Iguodala played in his first All-Star Game this season. (Steven M. Falk/Staff Photographer)

The 2011-12 Sixers season, abbreviated because of the lockout, can probably be best divided into three parts.

There was the opening surge, where the young team rushed out to a 20-9 start. Fans were excited. There was even talk of this team being a legitimate contender, especially after they thrashed the Bulls by 16 points at the Wells Fargo Center on February 1.

But the two months that followed saw the Sixers go just 11-21, and left them fighting for the eighth and final playoff spot. Fans were calling for ownership to blow up the team. Everyone was to blame.

The third and final segment of the season was perhaps where Sixers fans saw the best example of what this team was truly made of. They went 4-1 over their last five games, finishing the regular season at 35-31 and securing a playoff spot and a matchup with the Chicago Bulls. Shockingly enough, the Sixers knocked off the top-seeded Bulls (thanks in part to Derrick Rose's torn ACL), and took the Celtics to the brink before being eliminated in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference semifinals.

Now, with the season in the rear-view, we asked Sixers fans to tell us who they want to see back next season and who the want to send packing. The results, as always, were surprising.

What to do with Iguodala?

Some love him. Some hate him. Either way, there is definitely a role on this team for Andre Iguodala. He is one of the best defenders in the league, and the constant knock against Iguodala is that he isn't a "number-one guy." People complain that he can't put the team on his back in the last five minutes of a game and carry them to victory. Those people, for the most part, are right. That's not who he is as a player. Sure, he gets paid like it, but Iguodala is not a superstar. Is that his fault? Can you blame him for a bad Ed Stefanski contract?

Once fans get over the fact that he is making over $13 million per year, there isn't much to dislike about the guy. He's unselfish, plays defense, runs the floor, has a solid mid-range game, can hit the three and has a great relationship with Doug Collins. He also was named an All-Star for the first time in his career.

Ok, he needs to work on free throws. I'll concede that.*

Because the Sixers' season ended in a loss, I figured fans would be down on Iguodala. He is usually one of the first to catch blame. Much to my surprise, fans are nearly split on the veteran small forward. 49.5 percent of voters want to see him back next season, compared to just 30.1 percent of fans after last season.

So will the Sixers trade Iguodala? Bob Cooney of the Daily News weighed in, and he puts the chances that he'll be back next season at 60-40.

Amnesty for Brand?

That brings us to Elton Brand, the savvy veteran who signed a max deal but has not been able to reach his full potential because of injuries. I like Brand, and what he brings to the locker room, but he simply can't get it done anymore.

I expected him to land on the "Go" side of things, but I did not expect it to be this lopsided. Just over 17 percent of fans want him back next season. What I took away from this is that a lot of people want the team to amnesty Brand, and use that money to bring in a free agent.

It's hard to disagree with that...as long as the right free agent is out there. If not, the Sixers can always bring him back for the final season of his contract. He can mentor young players like Lavoy Allen. Then, after the 2012-13 season, his contract will be up, and they can then target a free agent.

Backcourt on the rise

For all the flack that Evan Turner took this season, fans certainly gave him a ringing endorsement in this poll. Nearly 89 percent of voters want to see the second-year guard back next season. Jrue Holiday's popularity dipped slightly (98.5 percent to 94.3 percent), but he was by far the most popular player last season, so there was really nowhere else for him to go but down.

These two are beginning to look like they could be in the backcourt together for years to come, and judging by the way fans voted, they would welcome that.

Mr. Popular

As I mentioned, Holiday was the most-popular player after last season. This year, however, the honor goes to Philly's own Lavoy Allen (96.7 percent). I'm sure he was helped by the fact that he's a Temple grad and Philadelphia native. But the way he played in the Celtics series, guarding one of the best power forwards in the game, Kevin Garnett, opened a lot of fans' eyes. Expect good things from Allen in the future.

2012 SIXERS STAY OR GO
  Stay Go Total Votes**
 Andre Iguodala 49.5% 50.5% 5662
 Elton Brand 17.2% 82.8% 5408
 Evan Turner 88.6% 11.4% 5214
 Jrue Holiday 94.3% 5.7% 4976
 Lou Williams 65.2% 34.8% 5078
 Jodie Meeks 27.9% 72.1% 4610
Thaddeus Young 83.6% 16.4% 4617
 Spencer Hawes 44.8% 55.2% 4765
 Nik Vucevic 81.1% 18.9% 3985
 Lavoy Allen 96.7% 3.3% 4242
 Sam Young 32.7% 67.3% 2935
 Tony Battie 13.0% 87.0% 2944
 Craig Brackins 21.6% 78.4% 2623
 Xavier Silas 17.9% 82.1% 2576
 
 Doug Collins 94.0% 6.0% 4401
 Rod Thorn 70.5% 29.5% 3674

**Results as of 9 a.m. on 6/1/12

*I am not an Andre Iguodala apologist. I am a realist. Before you kill me over this issue, consider this: If he was making $8 million/year instead of $13 million, would you still feel the same way about him?

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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:35 AM, 06/01/2012
    caught: actually not only more than one ball, but only three defenders.
    chuckw
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:27 AM, 06/01/2012
    Iggy's trade value won't get any higher than it is now. IMO, he goes to either the Lakers or the Thunder, depending on how that series goes. I would only be willing to take Gasol or Harden in return, as either would fill a need. With Harden, Holiday, and Turner in the starting lineup, any one of those guys can get you 20 a night, as long as there is a legitimate big man in the middle who can pass the ball (other than Hawes). Garnett or Kaman could be that guy.
    beegal99
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:50 AM, 06/01/2012
    You're right Iggy's trade value won't get any higher but you can forget about Harden. The Thunder ain't trading him and they don't need Iggy they have a perimeter defensive stopper and oh yeah their sf is Kevin Durant
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:47 PM, 06/01/2012
    There is NO CHANCE that the Thunder will trade Harden, period.
    chuckw
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:29 AM, 06/01/2012
    True Cosmo, the Sixers shouldn't over pay Hawes, or Lou Williams for that matter. Both are good pieces though. But the reality of an NBA that has too many teams and not enough talent is that demand will dictate that teams will sign average and even above average players to bad contracts that weigh teams down like an albatross. I think Hawes is a decent defender in the post because when he's got his legs, he's can block shots (see early in season) and at only 23, he's already serviceable as a post defender. Offensively, he has A LOT of years ahead of him to develop a hook shot from the low block. I think he'll be in the top 6-15 range as a post in this league.
    DeanoP44
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:35 AM, 06/01/2012
    @chuckw: You're right. This is far from scientific, but just wanted to let you know that each person can only vote once.
    MattMullin
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:49 AM, 06/01/2012
    Matt: you mean the other 100 times I voted for keeping Xavier Silas did not count??
    chuckw
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:37 AM, 06/01/2012
    What Hawes lacks, though, is physical strength to be a consistent contributor. I think it also adds to his injury history as well. If he can't improve his body and physical strength, he'll never maximize his talents. I would not want a guy on the roster who isn't 100% committed, and to me, that's how he comes across.
    beegal99
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:38 AM, 06/01/2012
    PLEASE IGGY IS A GREAT DEFENDER BUT HE CANT SHOOT!!! ITS OBVIOUS THE SIXERS WANT TO KEEP ET AND JRUE....ON THIS TEAM IGGY CAN NO LONGER BE APART OF WHAT THEY'RE BUILDING BECAUSE HE CANT SHOOT!!! His mid range game sucks and his freethrows suck and he really cant finish at the rim with both hands.... We have to see what we have in ET AND JRUE without Iggy handling the ball the majority of the game and getting the rock at the end of the game he's a good player but we have holes on our team like a shooter and a big man we gotta score...It was great knowing you Iggy
    salis15
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:56 AM, 06/01/2012
    Agree the 3 of them can't play together but are you saying get rid of him regardless of the deal? I'm a firm believer in addition by subtraction but this team will suck if it's Jrue and ET and we get nothing substantial for Iggy. I'm talking Detroit Piston level of suck
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:40 AM, 06/01/2012
    I don't think that the team should anmesty Brand. The team is over the cap around $9 million and he's due $18 million. Brand is great in the locker room and when he's feeling strong, he can outplay anyone the team could bring in with the available cap room anyway. Let Brand play a final season and then perhaps the team will be able to upgrade in that spot the following year.
    DeanoP44
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:54 AM, 06/01/2012
    A local sports radio host made a good point yesterday: if Iggys defense is tops in the league, how could he not be selected for AT LEAST the 2nd team defense? I only say this because its indicative of how the rest of the league sees him. I admit that I saw Iggy do a few things in the playoffs that were inapposite to his normal decisions, but i think its time for him to go.

    Lou as well. I wish him luck finding out how "valuable" the NBA believes he is.
    frstrm
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:06 PM, 06/01/2012
    My 1st advice is don't listen to sports radio hosts, most are self promoting buffoons who's expertise lie in 1 sport.
    2nd, go back and look at the all defensive teams, with the exception of Tony Allen every player selected was on a team that appeared often on national telecasts.You'll find Heat, under, Clippers, Celtics etc. Rajon Rondo made it and Jrue Holiday ate him up. The coaches who vote only actually play teams a handful of times so their exposure to players not in their division is limited. Often the vote is based on reputation which is fueled by exposure
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:16 PM, 06/01/2012
    Just because a sports radio host said it, does not mean it doesn't have insight or value.
    Lets look at your point. Look at the two players who finished above Iggy. Lebron James and Luol Deng. I would say both are better defenders than Iggy. So, with that said, the radio personalities point has merit.
    blah
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:51 PM, 06/01/2012
    As usual you totally missed my point. Why am I not surprised?


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