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Braves determine 'screaming savage' is best suited for batting practice

It's called the "screaming savage." It's exactly what it sounds like.

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Braves determine 'screaming savage' is best suited for batting practice

POSTED: Thursday, December 27, 2012, 11:53 AM

For years, the Cleveland Indians have dealt with backlash given their moniker.  Their name alone has been considered outdated and culturally skewed, but their grinning "Chief Wahoo" logo has received the brunt of the frustration, and in recent seasons, the team has started to distance themselves from the image.

The unveiling of this year's batting practice caps from MLB continues this trend, as some teams like the Orioles and A's went with retro looks, but Cleveland persisted with the simple "C."  

The league's other Native American-inspired team, however, is going in a different direction.  

It's called the "screaming savage."

It's exactly what it sounds like.

The Braves' wordless image of a mohawaked Native American cocking his head back can be difficult to interpret--it is hard to tell whether the man is screaming or laughing uproariously.  

But one thing we interpret for sure is that the logo, originally named "Chief Noc-a-Homa," comes from a different time, when this sort of thing was... allowed to... be a thing.  

That time was the 1950s to the mid-80s.  And maybe it should have stayed there.

But for now at least, the Braves will be taking BP with the "screaming savage," probably under some criticism, and probably while exchanging uncomfortable glances with each other.

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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:59 PM, 12/27/2012
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    JoeArtistWriter
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:59 PM, 12/27/2012
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    JoeArtistWriter
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:31 AM, 12/28/2012
    That was a very profound contribution. Does "zero" stand for your IQ?
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:17 PM, 12/27/2012
    Mike I: you are not a fan of history or you would not have shown your ignorance with your idiotic comment. You are getting "Liberal" confused with "liberal". Today's liberals are the Luddites of the times. They are against everything and anything including a harmless baseball cap. I find it funny that you have such high regard for the Founding Fathers...the same group disparaged by you liberals as hypocritical white slave owners. Nice try, Mike. But me thinks you are still a dolt.
    stop2think
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:17 PM, 12/27/2012
    It's simple. If Native Americans find it offensive, then it is offensive ... In this case, why should other races get to decide what is right for one specific race?
    Reality Speaks
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:18 PM, 12/27/2012
    As an Irish-American, I feel the leprechaun on the Celtics uniform not having a beer in his hand is not
    representing my heritage correctly. Whom do I complain to?
    romanT
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:32 PM, 12/27/2012
    A Chief is no more racist than a General or an Admiral. A Brave is no more racist than a Pioneer or a Midshipman. Equating Chiefs and Braves to Whiteys and Crackers is beyond ridiculous. Redskins and Indians are more debatable, but it could be argued that these nicknames originated as a way to honor the nobility and valor of specific people rather than to demean them.
    dasher
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:01 PM, 12/27/2012
    thanks for helping to make my point while you miss the big picture. brave, chief, redskin, indian...all terms used by the white majority to describe a race of people who were virtually exterminated by said whites. are you, @dasher arguing that the nicknames of professional sports teams were given to honor native americans??? that's a new one to me and what were your words..."beyond ridiculous" @realityspeaks is on the money...
    wilcowaits
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:15 PM, 12/27/2012
    There's only one way to know if the screaming savage is offensive, ask the Indians. If they're offended by it, then it's offensive.
    harbo
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:37 AM, 12/28/2012
    I'm offended by gays shoving their agenda down my throat (so to speak). Not by Christmas trees or religion, but gays. Ok, hypocrites, I want my offenses recognized and respected.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:23 AM, 12/28/2012
    What? So now we're supposed to forget that braves or screaming savages never existed? Par for the course in this revisionist society. It's those who have a problem with the logo who are making the negative connections. The teams aren't trying to promote stereotypes.

    I find it ironic that team nicknames and logos get criticized while ethnic organizations abound. Changing a team identity isn't going to solve our race issues. But try telling that to a superficial hypocrite.
    Atomic Fury
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:49 AM, 12/28/2012
    @wilcowaits, you obviously have a computer. Do some research on the origin of these particular nicknames. You might learn something.

    I'm surprised that the agenda-driven PC police are not suggesting that from now on, whenever a drowning child is rescued from a raging river or a choking family is brought safely out of a burning building, we all refrain from calling the rescuer "brave" because it might have offensive connotations to some.
    dasher
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:57 AM, 12/28/2012
    Oh, and no more yelling "Bravo" when you like the job the orchestra just did!
    dasher
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:21 AM, 12/28/2012
    I think this is a lot to do about nothing. Its a picture of an Indian (Native American) period. Is this offensive? Is the Fighting Irish logo offensive to Irishmen? Are we that thin skinned that every innocent picture must be put under the microscope? C'mon man lighten up!!!
    lefty27
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:00 AM, 12/28/2012
    The Chief is laughing because he just scalped another land grabber. Seriously, THIS IS NEWS? THIS IS A JOKE, based on what is going on everyday nationally, amd or internationally! I personally, find this article offensive to any individual who takes this story on more than just merit. It is ridiculous & insulting to even consider using the word...RACIST... to attract readers.
    frank castle


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