New York Daily News suggests Yankees trade Granderson to Phillies for Ruf
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New York Daily News suggests Yankees trade Granderson to Phillies for Ruf
Matt Mullin, Sports Editor
The dust hasn't quite settled in New York after the Yankees were swept out of the playoffs by the Detroit Tigers.
One media outlet is suggesting that the Yankees make a deal with the Phillies, trading Curtis Granderson, a power hitting center fielder who would fill a need for the Phillies, for Darin Ruf, the reigning double-A MVP.
Granderson has a $13M option for 2013, making him affordable for the Phillies, while Ruf is a 26-year-old career minor-leaguer with no real position on the Phillies. In winter ball, Ruf is hitting .276 with four home runs in eight games.
Here is what John Harper of the New York Daily News wrote over the weekend:
It's not that Granderson can't cut down on his strikeouts and get back to being something closer to the player that finished fourth in the 2011 MVP voting. It's just that I don't believe the Yankees are going to commit to a long-term, highly-expensive deal to keep him after 2013, so the time is right to trade him.
Granderson makes a lot of sense for the Phillies, who desperately need power, as well as a center fielder, and they're still very much in a win-now mode, trying to cash in before their high-priced starting rotation gets too old.
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At age 26, Ruf is not really a phenom, having developed his power gradually after being a 20th-round pick out of Creighton. The Phillies are converting him from first base to the outfield, and scouts believe he can play a serviceable left field.
His bat could be valuable to the Yankees in a part-time role in 2013, if he proves ready, and eventually he could become a mainstay in the lineup.
The Phillies might be reluctant to deal one of their few highly-touted prospects, but some scouts, pointing to his high strikeout total (102 K's in Double-A) aren't sold that Ruf will be able to put up big numbers against major league pitching. And Granderson could be a long-term answer in center for the Phillies if they're willing to commit financially.
So what do you think? Would you make the deal?
- Seriously? Did you even read the article? Believe it or not, Amaro is not even quoted! There is no comment or reference to RAJ or a Phillies front office position or response whatsoever. The entire article is a lazy recycling of a New York Daily News ham and egg columnist playing fantasy baseball and that has absolutely ZERO to do with Amaro. I am all for legitimate criticism of our front office when appropriate, but you simply can't get out of the way of your own agenda sometimes, Advanta. Once again, a total over-reaction to an inane speculation from a New York media outlet. Pull yourself together, man!
— Special Agent Fox Mulder - Dont get fooled again RAJ.— z03mbm
- The Phillies are the only organization that regularly doubts and downplays it's own prospects. There was a time when Arbuckle openly questioned whether Ryan Howard could hit HRs in the bigs, just because he was hitting them in AA. This is when he and Wade considered trading him to the Pirates. The Cardinals, Tigers and Reds would ALL play Darin Ruf on their big club, they currently all have a "Darin Ruf" type on their rosters.— Phila Phans
- in complete agreement with all that @Phila Phans wrote above. Funny how many teams that made the post-season featured guys in their very early 20's. The Phils? They neither draft nor develop young-20's talent nor would they give a shot to anyone down on their farm regardless of performance or promise. Utley arrived at 25, Howard at almost 26, others much the same.
Just the way it is with the Phils. They doubled the Giants in spending each of the past three seasons and they outspent the Cards by tens of millions for those three years as well, but those two teams are clearly the class of the NL and have been since 2010.
Meanwhile, we'll all watch tonight as two teams of scrappy players, many of whom did not even have a starting job until the past 1 - 2 seasons, go at each other like their lives depend on it, playing baseball the way it's meant to be played. The Phils (and the Yanks as well) stick with their aging teams and abhor change.
Anyone honest with themselves can count 5 players in each starting lineup tonight that would never be given a chance to win a job on the Phils. Carpenter, Jay, Descalzo, Craig, Kozma, and David Freeze a year ago? Get serious.
Pagan, Scutaro, Blanco, Crawford, Belt?? Would be lucky to get a second look from our GM for bench jobs.
This is the way good teams are built and work together, a sum of parts greater than those parts should ever produce. Each of these teams beat us the past two seasons and here they are again, playing for all of the marbles tonight.
Our GM just doesn't get any of this.— advantasux - Rollins was 20 y.o. when he made the Phils. Hamels 22. Brett Myers 22. Utley 24. Kendrick 22. Burrell 23.
Nice research.— John621 - I stand corrected. I will issue a caveat however that the players you listed were all brought up by the previous administrations (Wade and Gillick) and not in the four years under the current GM.
The rest of the point I made regarding the kinds of players that find their way onto other teams' rosters and into their lineups stands as I wrote it.— advantasux - "would they give a shot to anyone down on their farm regardless of performance or promise."
Worley, Bastardo, Stutes, Galvis, DeFratus and Aumont are all 20 somethings who've gotten a chance from Amaro. Let's not go crazy praising Gillick for doing this. He brought in busts like Garcia (for Gio Gonzalez), Eaton and Jenkins and got lucky with re-treads like Werth, Victorino and Stairs.
— rudeman - Bring back Victorino and keep Ruf.— Boru
- Exactly. Get Youk to play 3B and groom Asche to take over in 2014. Give D. Brown his last chance to fulfill his legendary "potential" and get yourself a couple of capable veteran outfield reserves. Shore up the bullpen a touch (Madson) and viola.........the NL Pennant. — World
- I'd rather they trade Howard for Granderson, and put Ruf at 1st Base. Howard can DH for the Yankees against right handed pitchers. He'd be a terror in Yankee Stadium.— SteveS11
- Boru, exactly!!!!— John621
- The Phillies are going to have to make several important decisions. the first and most important one is whether they are going to try to win through their farm system or continue to trade prospects for very expensive veterans. Obviously, a team in contention must enter the free agent market because all positions cannot be adequately filled by just using players from the minors. That is different than relying more on free agents and ignoring the players in the minors who are promising. Second, the Phillies need hitting and granderson may be on the downside of his career while Ruf looks like he is just entering his prime. Eithefr way, the Phillies need to work for the future as well as the present.— Drumgoole
- No to Granderson for Ruf.— Dave Clemens
- Just to clear this right on up. Granderson has a $15m team option with a $2m buyout. So if the Phillies acquire Granderson from the Yankees they have to pay $15m which is more than Pence is getting in arbitration. Which means this deal would make no sense because Ruff looks like a lot better prospect in 2013 2014 than Joseph.— JoeinSouthPhilly
- Be careful here. While that power is desirable, the Phillies would be acquiring a player who will at best be under contract to you for only one year. Granderson is 31 years old and this upcoming contract has to be the motherlode for him. And look at those strikeouts...195 Ks in 2012. The Yankees don't ordinarily trade players like this.
As for myself, I would rather see Ruf get a chance in the bigs with the Phils. This is the stuff of legend and he would be just a blip on the salary chart. Greg Luzinski played LF, never embarrassed himself, and hit a lot of big HRs for the Phillies.
Give Ruf an opportunity to become a star in our town.— World
