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What they're saying about the Eagles

Here's a roundup of what the national media are saying about the Eagles:

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What they're saying about the Eagles

POSTED: Sunday, January 23, 2011, 12:49 PM
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Here's a roundup of what the national media are saying about the Eagles:

Dan Pompei of the National Football Post has Michael Vick fifth on his Comeback Player of the Year list, behind Brian Urlacher, E.J. Henderson, Wes Welker and LaDainian Tomlinson:

He didn’t get my vote because I figured he came back from his two year hiatus last year, not this year. But he broke through this season and had the best season of his career.

Pompei said he's heard Eric Mangini's name as a possibility to become the next Eagles' defensive coordinator:

The Eagles might be interested in changing to a 3-4 defense. I am hearing the name of Eric Mangini as a possibility. They previously expressed interest in both Chuck Pagano and Dean Pees of the Ravens. What do all three have in common? They all know the 3-4.

It should be noted that sources have told both Les Bowen of the Daily News and Jeff McLane of the Inquirer that the Eagles do not plan on switching to a 3-4 defense. I have not seen Mangini's name in connection with the Eagles' opening anywhere else. And while ESPN's Adam Schefter reported that the Birds were seeking permission to speak with Dean Pees, that turned out not to be the case.

SI.com's Peter King has Henderson and Vick tied for his top comeback player:

Comeback player can mean coming back from anything -- injury, jail, whatever -- and I realize Vick was on the team last year and just didn't play much. I was solid on Henderson all along, but Vick's resurgence was so compelling and so great that I had to include him.

King has no Eagles on his All-Pro team. He's got the Birds ninth in his Fine Fifteen:

Sean McDermott replacing Jim Johnson turned out to be like Dave Van Gorder replacing Johnny Bench. Didn't quite work out.

Mike Sando of ESPN.com had Vick No. 2 on his final MVP list behind Tom Brady:

Vick seemed to be gaining on Brady late in the season, but his daring style caught up with him as December wound down. Vick fashions himself as a football player, not just a quarterback, and that is part of his appeal. But injuries affected his performance and availability late in the season, raising questions about whether he could make it through a 16-game season without adjusting his approach.

ESPN.com's Next Level gave Vick its Escape Artist award:

Michael Vick’s development as a pocket passer elevated him into the MVP discussion this season, but the Eagles’ signal-caller was still at his best when on the move. Among quarterbacks with 50 pass attempts outside the pocket, Vick was the only one to rank among the NFL’s top four in completion percentage (55.6), passer rating (93.5) and yards per attempt (7.7).

Additionally, Vick’s knack to run remained, as he led the league in scrambles (57), scramble yards (566) and first downs via scramble (23). Vick narrowly escaped with this award over some mobile competition in Matt Schaub of the Houston Texans (nine touchdowns, no interceptions outside the pocket), Sam Bradford of the St. Louis Rams (NFL-high 98 pass attempts outside the pocket) and Matt Ryan of the Atlanta Falcons (58.4 completion percentage, tops among quarterbacks with at least 50 attempts).

ESPN.com's Howard Bryant says that in Vick's case, the system worked:

In a culture numb to the gilded escaping freely, the rich buying their way out of responsibility by writing a check or signing an autograph, society won, too, for Vick was not handed a golden key following his incarceration. He was held accountable by the justice system, which sent him to prison; by his employer, which suspended him and treated him with appropriate skepticism; and most importantly by the public. Some members of that public appropriately view him as having served his time, meaning he is now free to resume a better, rehabilitated life; others appropriately want him to pay his social debt as well as his legal one; and still others will never forgive him for killing and torturing dogs, essentially for profit.


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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:37 PM, 01/24/2011
    I don't think I want to see Mangina coaching our defense. Him being hired at Cleveland after his Jets tenure was like Leon Hess hiring Rich Kotite (We want to win now). He doesn't seem to get much appreciation from his players.
    JaxPhilly
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:37 PM, 01/24/2011
    Hoodlum your obsession with Kolb, a guy who didnt have any impact on the team is kind of pathetic. Rip him all you want, but he barely played, if hes traded then you can talk about 2nd or 3rd round picks all you want, insignificant. And no they wouldnt entertain bringing McNabb back, get off the pipe
    peteike
  • 1 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:21 PM, 01/24/2011
    Been watching them for over forty years. It will never change & they will never win with Reid. As for ownership? Well he's in the black every year so... That's a good thing! So gear up for the Phillies everyone and enjoy a real winner for the city. Hey keep an eye on the Sixer's too! As for the iggles next year? Me says get ready for the dark ages.
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:03 PM, 01/23/2011
    wiff is still struggling with the intricacies of the CPOTY award. Might just be because Vick won it. Might just be that he has an IQ equal to Kolb's uniform number. Might be both. It's sad really. Even the people above who didn't place him first had him on the list which means he's eligible. The rest is just opinion so who really cares except someone who can't stand seeing Vick win anything? Right wiff? Who really cares? Oh, and KK = LHS...tick...tick...tick...
    tpizza
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:59 PM, 01/23/2011
    3-4 or 4-3! It does not matter, you have to have the talent and the Eagles lack that very much. The teams that where in the Championship games today had a ton of talent on both sides of the ball. If the Steeler Offense had to rely on the Eagles Defense to back them up, the Jets would be going to the Super Bowl.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:38 PM, 01/23/2011
    What did Vick come back from, holding a clipboard?
    bill19666
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:21 PM, 01/23/2011
    You answered your own question
    tpizza
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:28 PM, 01/23/2011
    uhh, you guys are both a bit off. they dont really run a 3-4. a few plays of some 3-5 or 2-6 nickel secondary garbage does not count as a 3-4. They run the 4-3, and they dont have the players to run a 3-4 now. It is a very big difference. I hope they get mangini but I doubt Reid would be comfortable with someone that actually knows what they are doing being the DC. doubtful.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:09 PM, 01/23/2011
    Right, because Johnson had NO CLUE what he was doing. The eagles D was one of the best during Johnson's years. Its a shame he has passed. Dude, you really need to get a clue about football. Your posts are often way to opinionated and lack substance. What about Steve Young? Didn't he win a Super Bowl?
    mfmagazu
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:25 PM, 01/23/2011
    I say it sucks watching other teams in the playoffs while Andy's team is sitting at home.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:06 PM, 01/23/2011
    I've been hoping for Mangini since the start. That would be great! And this 3-4 / 4-3 stuff is non sense. Hiring a coordinator shouldn't be about your current personnel. If your personnel can't handle the system, then change them out. Besides, contrary to popular belief, the Eagles DID run some 3-4 the last 2 years.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:48 PM, 01/23/2011
    The Eagles ran some 3-4 the past 2 years? How'd that work out?
    ej610
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:03 PM, 01/23/2011
    SHEIL, YOU ARE A JERK! HOW MUCH DOES PHILLY.COM PAY YOU TO WRITE THIS DRIVEL! WHY DON'T YOU GO BACK TO COLLEGE AND LEARN TO WRITE! YOU ARE THE WORST PERSON IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD!!!!
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:05 PM, 01/23/2011
    (inside joke)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:08 PM, 01/23/2011
    ...anyways - GO FLYERS!!!!
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:14 PM, 01/24/2011
    chicken legs will be back in jail and pillsboy BOZO will be 3rd string QB for the skins when season starts in 2012.
    jwatson
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:16 PM, 01/23/2011
    uhh, how much do you want to bet on that ? Kolb will be in the league for a long time, and he will absolutely get to start somewhere in the next 2 years, guaranteed. There are at least 5 teams that have no quarterback, maybe more, and probably all of them would be willing to let Kolb start for them and see what he can do. (already broke an NFL record after 3 starts). One thing Reid knows is QB's, and Kolb is good. His playcalling though is horrible and even with Vick, its not going to win anything as was proved again, every year, until the guy is fired. Seeing Vick run around for his live is exciting but it is usually only done AS A LAST RESORT like if your 0-line is TERRIBLE or the playcalling is SO PREDICTABLE THAT THE OTHER TEAM KNOWS WHATS COMING AND CAN BLITZ EVERY PLAY. IT WILL NOT WIN A SB. Cutler, Big ben, rodgers, sanchez, all pocket passers, none of them run a 4.3 40, they stand in the pocket and make accurate passes in the clutch. Kolb will do that when actually given a starting job. Reid w/ Vick, Reid w/ Mcnabb, any scrambling QB, any gimmick, WILL NEVER WIN A SB. EVER.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:42 PM, 01/23/2011
    Every QB is a pocket passer when they have a pocket. No QB is a pocket passer when he doesn't.
    mlr710
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:34 PM, 01/23/2011
    yea, uh, that would be a great statement if it actually meant something. most QB's are pocket passers. Vince Young never won a SB. his career is great. Tom Brady is a pocket passer no matter what pressure is there, either he throws it in the pocket, or gets sacked in the pocket. hes not leaving the pocket. make sense. pocket passer. they win superbowls. 60-80% GARBAGE PASSING DOES NOT AND NEVER WILL. SCRAMBLING QB's THAT CANT MAKE THROWS UNDER PRESSURE DO NOT. Andy Reid is a genius because he wins 60% of his games in the regular season. No coach isnt that doesnt.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:12 PM, 01/23/2011
    i agree 100% with Dan Pompei mike mcVick cameback last season this is his second season back from levenworth,i brought this up last week and was attacked (by hoodscum_22 and his pals) like a small businessman at a DNC convention..wes welker came back from a career ending injury to all star status within one season and SHould be the Winner of the CBPOY award...wolf.
    wolf 4
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:11 PM, 01/23/2011
    I cant see hiring washburn a 4-3 guy and then hiring a 3-4 guy to run the d. doesnt make sense. but then again drafting a guy 5'11 180 pounds an making him a D/E because he's fast doesnt either.i say no way womangini comes here just for the simple fact that we all ready have a know it all coaching the team!
    Geno D
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:00 PM, 01/24/2011
    Hopefully the eagles send chicken legs injury list prone Vick packing like pillsboy BOZO and let/get a big, stud, pocket QB like the steelers and packers have.
    jwatson
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:00 PM, 01/24/2011
    Hopefully the eagles send chicken legs injury list prone Vick packing like pillsboy BOZO and let/get a big, stud, pocket QB like the steelers and packers have.
    jwatson
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:00 PM, 01/24/2011
    Hopefully the eagles send chicken legs injury list prone Vick packing like pillsboy BOZO and let/get a big, stud, pocket QB like the steelers and packers have.
    jwatson
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:35 PM, 01/23/2011
    I don't give a rats behind about individual awards, for him or anybody else. Football is a team game and should be viewed as such. Vick helped our Iggles to win the Division in what EVERYBODY thought was to be a down-type year. For this I am thankful, and certainly hope he will be around for an encore performance next season and hopefully, beyond.
    TBear


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