What about Kolb? Evaluating Week 7
Was Sunday's game against the Titans Kevin Kolb's final start of 2010? Here's an in-depth look at how he performed and why he struggled.
What about Kolb? Evaluating Week 7
Sheil Kapadia, Philly.com
After two very good starts against the 49ers and Falcons, Kevin Kolb struggled last Sunday in the Eagles' loss to the Titans.
Here's the weekly breakdown of how Kolb performed. As always, let's start with the pass distribution.
| Targets | Catches | Yards | YAC | Drops | |
| Jeremy Maclin | 12 | 5 | 42 | 12 | 1 |
| Jason Avant | 7 | 6 | 60 | 7 | 0 |
| LeSean McCoy | 7 | 6 | 54 | 54 | 0 |
| Riley Cooper | 6 | 3 | 51 | 4 | 0 |
| Brent Celek | 4 | 2 | 8 | 4 | 0 |
| Owen Schmitt | 2 | 2 | 6 | 4 | 0 |
| Chad Hall | 2 | 1 | 5 | 5 | 0 |
| Garrett Mills | 1 | 1 | 5 | 0 | 0 |
| TOTALS | 41 | 26 | 231 | 90 | 1 |
Note that Kolb officially had 48 attempts. However, two of those balls were spiked to kill the clock on the final drive of the first half, and he threw four balls away out of bounds, plus one was batted at the line of scrimmage. I didn't count targets for any of those plays.
What stands out is the Kolb-to-Maclin connection. In the previous two weeks, Kolb had targeted Maclin 14 times, and those throws resulted in 13 completions for 254 yards and a pair of touchdowns. Against the Titans, Kolb targeted Maclin 12 times, and those throws resulted in just five completions for 42 yards.
The good news is Kolb was looking for him. The bad news is the pair wasn't on the same page. Early on, Maclin slipped on an attempt that looked like it would have resulted in a first down. Kolb's interception in the second quarter was targeted to Maclin, but horribly underthrown. On another play in the second, Kolb did a good job to escape pressure and roll to his right, but he was off-target with a throw in Maclin's direction.
With 1:10 left in the first half, Kolb had Maclin open deep on what should have been a touchdown, but again, he underthrew him. And finally, in the fourth quarter, Maclin couldn't come up with a ball that was in his hands. It would have been a big gain, but he was unable to hold on. The play was far from routine, but one that he should make, so I gave him a drop. What can I say? I'm a harsh grader this week.
Kolb-to-Avant was efficient, as they connected for six completions and 60 yards on seven targets. Cooper came up big, not only with the great play on the 37-yard gain at the end of the first half, but also the touchdown and a third-down conversion in the third quarter.
Celek still has been unable to get things going. I'll take a closer look at his numbers later in the week.
The YAC were pretty much non-existent. The total is 90 yards, but 54 of those were to McCoy, who caught the ball near the line of scrimmage. The Eagles had only 28 yards after the catch on 15 completions to wide receivers.
Eight different players had at least one reception.
THE BLITZ, PRESSURE, SHOTGUN, ETC.
Kolb saw more blitzes than he'd seen in previous weeks. He dropped back 48 times and was blitzed on 12 of those occasions. On throws against the blitz, Kolb completed 6 of 11 attempts for 55 yards. He was also sacked once.
On two of those incompletions, Kolb made good reads but poor throws. It's worth noting that Kolb got better against the blitz as the game went along, which is a good sign. He started off 1-for-5 (plus the sack) the first six times he was blitzed. In the second half, Kolb was 5-for-6 against the blitz.
Kolb was sacked just once, but saw pretty consistent pressure. He did a good job escaping at times, but was off-target with his throws.
In the pocket, Kolb was 22-for-37 for 177 yards. Out of the pocket, he was just 3-for-7 for 17 yards.
Under center, Kolb was 9-for-15 for 66 yards. In the shotgun, he was 16-for-30 for 128 yards.
Note that the 37-yard completion to Cooper is not included in either of the above categories since Kolb lined up out wide on the trick play.
The previous two weeks, the Eagles' offense killed teams with play-action passes. Against the 49ers and Falcons, Kolb was 18-for-21 for 335 yards off play-action. Against the Titans, he was just 3-for-8 for 17 yards on those attempts.
THIRD DOWN, RED ZONE
As a team, the Eagles did well on third down, converting 10 of 18 opportunities. Kolb was 8-for-14 for 43 yards on third down. Crazy stat: Of the first nine times Kolb dropped back on third down, the Eagles came away with eight successful conversions. It wasn't just one guy, either. Kolb targeted seven different receivers on third down, and five of them had third-down catches.
After the hot start, however, it got ugly. The next six times Kolb dropped back on third down, the Eagles came away with just one successful conversion.
The Eagles had four red-zone chances. The results were a touchdown, two field goals and a fumble. Kolb was actually pretty good in the red zone. He completed 5 of 8 throws for 30 yards. On the first red-zone possession, McCoy was dropped for 5 yards on second down after King Dunlap missed his block. That gave the Eagles a 3rd-and-goal from the 12 instead of the 7, and they had to settle for a field goal after a short completion.
On the second possession, Kolb made a nice read and throw to Cooper for the touchdown. The third possession resulted in a fumble, but Kolb made another nice throw to Cooper for 9 yards on 3rd-and-3 before the turnover. And Kolb couldn't connect with Maclin on the fourth red-zone possession on third down.
SUCCESS BY DISTANCE
Here's a chart of Kolb's throws by distance. I used the same ranges that Football Outsiders uses so we'd have a point of reference. Short is 5 yards or less. Mid is 6 to 15 yards. Deep is 16 to 25 yards. And Bomb is more than 25 yards. These are measured from the line of scrimmage to the point where the ball is touched, hits the ground or goes out of bounds.
| Completions | Attempts | Yards | |
| Short | 18 | 21 | 113 |
| Mid | 4 | 7 | 32 |
| Deep | 3 | 7 | 49 |
| Bomb | 1 | 6 | 37 |
At first glance, it looks like Kolb threw a bunch of balls Short (21 of 41 attempts, 51.2 percent). But the previous week against the Falcons, 15 of his 29 attempts (51.7 percent) were in the Short range.
The difference is completions. Against the Titans, 18 of 26 completions were Short (69.2 percent).
Kolb took shots downfield, but couldn't connect. He was just 3-for-7 on throws between 16 and 25 yards. On throws of more than 25 yards, he was 1-for-6.
As a means of comparison, Kolb was 6-for-6 on Deep and Bomb throws (combined) last week. In the previous two games, he was 9-for-11 on those throws.
Kolb underthrew receivers multiple times. Even the 37-yard completion to Cooper (the only Bomb completion) was severely underthrown, but the Eagles' rookie made a great play on the ball.
OVERALL
The numbers show 22 incompletions, but it's a little more complicated when you break it down. Four balls were thrown away, and two were spikes. Maclin and Cooper each slipped on two other incompletions. And McCoy didn't turn around in time on one. In other words, of the 22 incompletions, there were nine that should not be classified as Kolb just missing a receiver.
That's not to say he played well, though. Kolb definitely missed his share of throws, and multiple attempts were off-target to receivers open downfield. Those could have been big plays, game-changing plays.
Maybe I'm not being harsh enough, but this is what I expected from him in his first season as a starter. A good game here, a bad game there. A great throw on one play, a horrible mistake on the next. Those are the general growing pains we're used to seeing from someone with his level of experience.
Now it's unclear when he'll next start a game for the Eagles. Michael Vick is back at the helm after the bye, and Kolb is back on the sidelines.
What I've seen out of Kolb through the first seven weeks certainly suggests he can be an effective starting quarterback in this league. At times, he's looked great throwing the deep ball. In other instances, he's looked shaky. I think he has the arm. It's just a matter of Kolb improving in that area with timing and accuracy.
I actually thought he showed improvement in terms of sensing pressure last week. He was only sacked once, and that number could have been higher. But Kolb needs to be more accurate on throws after he escapes the pocket.
I was concerned about his confidence after getting benched, but Kolb looks to be mentally tough. He'll now go back to playing the role of the good solider and cheering Vick on from the sidelines, not knowing when his next opportunity is coming.
Not good. This sends the message that if Kolb had a great game Sunday he would have held the job. All QB's, especially developing ones will have some ups and downs and you can't fault him for this defense being just terrible. He's the future, Vick won't be here next year and we're not good enough to win now - so you season him. Andy has made some bad moves recently.....— HighDrama- Eagles vs the Titans, was definitely the faults of the defense who fell apart the second half. Kolb did have a TD on that game, but only because Cooper was able to make a move on the under thrown ball. If Kolbs get back behind the line, maybe we need to improvise on his throwing ability. Short passes and let the WR do the work. That is how KOLB got the 80 yard TD vs the Falcons. It wasn't his arm that did the work. It was Maclin's feet. KOLB does have the talent to be a good QB because he does have good WR and RB. And maybe Vick is not the future next year but we have him here this year. You just going to have accept it, maybe finally be an Eagles fan, not just a Kolb or Vick fan and cheer for the Team. — gauwow
- Kolb just needs reps. Reid should be hit with coaching malpractice for not getting them for him. One thing that gets me, Tennessee looks like a good team. They are 5-2 and first place in their conference. Only one Reid coached team in almost 12 years now, has beaten an eventual AFC playoff team only one time and that was a 15-6 defensive struggle. The QBing has always been pretty shabby- Baltimore 2008 anyone? The point is that for more than a decade, the Eagles can't compete with AFC playoff teams across the board. So with Kolb at the helm they have a 4th quarter 19-10 lead against a likely AFC playoff team. That's leading a team, the Eagles, that only beat one team with a winning record in its last 24 games. Not too bad. I'm glad we will get to see what Vick can do against "not the Jags or Lions".— jtj06
- What were not mentioned in the article were the 3-4 in-completions that should count as drops against the Titan defenders. Also the section breaking down the 4 three and out series following scoring drives by the Titans seems to have been left on the editors floor. When Kolb plays well he is showered with praise and compared to greats, lets be just as critical when he plays poorly. Was Kolb the sole reason we lost on Sunday, NO, but he was one of the primary reasons. And all the mentions of a developing QB really need to stop already. Kolb has been in the league 4 years now. Yes he is still settling into a prominent role in the offense, but he should not be evaluated in the same light as a rookie or second year QB. When a player is given the benefit of sitting and learning (while being paid) for three years, they accept that knowing expectations for them will be greater once they take over. You don't give a guy who sat for 3 years, 3 more years of playing before you evaluate his play. Tony Romo isn’t still in his evaluation period, 2008 Matt Schaub wasn’t still developing, neither is Matt Cassell. Kolb needs to be ready now to play and win…no excuses. The Eagles didn't trade McNabb to develop Kolb they traded him because they said Kolb was ready.— datbo215
- I would not be surprised if BABYARM is outta here at the end of the season.— BooDuhBud
- Sheil - you are a big fan of Kolb, which is fine, but don't let that ruin your articles. Like datbo215 states, you forget to mention all the near INTs the guy threw on Sunday. Those underthrown balls, were absolutely horrible. You have two WRs, Maclin and Jackson, who's strengths are to spread the field vertically, how can we have QB who's weakness is arm strength? I see that as a huge problem. Vick is only 30 years old, less two years of non wear and tear on his body while incarcerated. Sign the guy who best fits your system, which despite what people think, is barely a WCO.— EaglesBleedMoney
HighDrama -- if vick plays good, he'll certainly be back next year. why do you think he is starting? its to see if he is worth signing long term. the eagles have a plan. and yeah sheil, how about the all the dropped picks? you have to factor those in evaluating his performance.- thought the article was very fair. First year - plenty of other first year QB are WAY worse - see Minnesota, Washington, Oakland, Arizona...Kolb is way ahead of schedule.
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I really don't think Vick is going to be around next year. There is no conspiracy going on here, I truly believe Vick is playing better than anyone expected, that coupled with the fact that the O-line sucks is why he's starting. AR is trying to spare Kolb from getting killed (or in AR's words "massacred")by playing behind a truly battered o-line. Good example was on the fumble at the 5 yd line when McGlynn went the wrong way and the DT came free, if that were a pass play Kolb would have concussion #2 whereas Vick might be able to run away from those hits.— HuskerEagleFan 
Phil and Highdrama/Husker make good opposing points. Problem is that if we are going to only let Kolb play under the best conditions he really isn't developing, he's being shielded from the reality of the NFL. I'm also a little tired of hearing about the "young, developing QB" too. This is his 4th year. Enough with the developing, produce already. This guys learning curve is longer than turn 4 at Daytona. There is also the point about the relative strengths possessed by KK as opposed to the strengths of the WRs. KK simply does NOT match up well with the WRs. His relatively weak arm was dramatically exposed on Sunday. How many under thrown, off taget passes do you have to see to believe that? DJax and Maclin are burners and KK has a popgun arm. He can not take advantage of the best assets the team has and no amount of practice will change that. Vick is the better fit as the team is constituted right now. If he continues to play well, KK will man the bench or be traded. There is no other option. This isn't meant to provoke an argument, it's just my opinion.— tpizza- I just want to know how much time Kolb needs to prove himself, datbo215, hit the nail right on the head, Kolb should be ready. I see some of these rookies just coming out of college looking better than Kolb. Make all the excuses for Kolb you want, but reality is either Kolb has or he doesn't, and so far it really looks like he doesn't.— charmaine
- I think we should trade for Cutler. Who cares if he throws 3-4 picks/week. He has the golden arm and that's what really counts.— tommy_the_k
- Rookie qbs looking better than Kolb? How many rookie quarterbacks won offensive player of the week this year? I don't actually know. Maybe some have. Whatever the case, let's bring on Vick and see what the rest of the season brings. It should be interesting.
- datbo, I posted before I read your comment. Didn't mean to echo your thoughts but at least we agree, no more learning. Time to play well and win or step aside.— tpizza
- I respectfully disagree, tpizza. Kolb threw some pretty good deep balls the prior two weeks and I do believe he still has room to develop and he will improve. However, I am ready for Vick. I think the Eagles can hang with anyone in the NFC with Vick at QB playing the way he was playing before the injury.
- i like kolb. i really do. i just think vick gives us the best chance to win. now, if kolb was playing like peyton or drew bress, i would want to stick with kolb. i just dont see that happening.
- BTS, no prob. I thought I was seeing some improvement in that area too but last week was a sad regression and more of what I think KK actually is as far as arm strength. At any rate I'm with you as far as Vick is concerned and that's coming from someone who thought Reid should have stayed with Kolb. I'll root for the Es no matter who is playing QB though. Actually some objective thoughts here today. GOOD for a change.— tpizza
- you say you'll root for any QB,however all you do is bash KKolb from day 1,you said he cannot throw deep-then he throws an 83 yard bomb to Maclin into the Wind,,all you do is wait for KKolb to make a mistake,we'll young franchise QB's do have off games,vs tennessee,but he still had them in position to win before two costly fumbles (Mccoy-punt returner) in the fourth QTR,,when KKolb beat the niners and the falcons (both games you said he would fail)you went MIA for two weeks waiting for KK to have an Off game,,well your choice conVick should beat the Colts they are not an elite team in the AFC,,KK dismantles defenses like the colts with his pinpoint accuracy(79.9 vs first place falcons),but Big Fred is on the same wave level as you so when you bash Big Fred you are bashing yourself LOL..........wolf. — wolf 4
- Yes, I skipped far fewer posts than usual. I agree that it's all about rooting for the Eagles - whoever they throw in there.
Comment removed.- chances are Kevin Kolb will start more games this season,,mike conVick has started 3 games in three years and beat two doormats (lions and jacks)and was down 0-14 vs the deadskins when he tapped out of that game,,no one complained when KK hit Maclin with a 83 yard bomb INTO the Wind vs the first place falcons with a convincing win with 325 yards passing 79.9% accuracy,133 QB rating,,KK's progress is the most promising part of the eagles future,,conVick will tap out again he's a running QB and it could happen on the next play,or the play after that,,also with three starts in three years his chances of playing a complete season is slim and none,,the BIRDS cannot plan a future with a QB on the run..the conVick apologists are bitter mcnoheart leftovers and donot want to see KK do well,they wait for the young QB to make a mistake poor excuse for so-called Eagle fans......wolf.— wolf 4
- wolf...i see your post on here all the time..and only time u cheer for the eagles is if they have a white qb. i can see u not liking vick or as u call him convick...but whats your beef with mcnabb..ok he never got us a ring, but neither has kolb...nor has he even lead us to the playoffs..kolb couldn't even hold his starting job that was just given to him..what makes this guy a savior..cause he is a white qb? regardless of what color qb u have or how bad the qb is..if he is the starter u cheer him on..not pick and choose to root for the eagles cause they have a player on there u like or dislike..i remember seeing u post u r no longer a eagles fan cause vick is the starter..but u calling someone else a hypocrite when u one yourself..your constant bashing of black qbs leads me to believe u want a white qb no matter how bad of a qb he is...ridiculous if u ask me..i agree with reid for once..vick should be starting..and i agree with most of the posters on here..this is kolbs 4th year..he no longer is a project..he either has it now or he doesn't which is why he is riding the bench now..if kolb is starting i'll cheer and hope he gets better...if vick is starting i'll cheer and hope he doesn't get hurt..u root for the color of green...not the color of their skin..just food for thought — bigjay215
- And with that comment the objectivity comes to a screeching halt.— tpizza
Kolb will see more action soon. Vick will be injured again in no time.- Love the "young QB" reference in Wolf's note. Good grief, the guy's in his fourth year already. Give me a break. Also love the "poor excuse for so-called Eagles fans" reference. This from the guy who signed off as "ex-Eagle Wolf" when Vick was named the starter over Kolb. The word "Hypocrite" doesn't even scratch the surface when it comes to Wolf.— birdseed
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- I disagree with some of you, but not by much. Yes, the learning curve is very small for kolb right now, but there is still a curve. Matt Cassel was a system product. As are a lot of BB's players, once they leave, they crumble. Schaub wasn't that good the first couple years that he left Atlanta. This should be Kolb's year to grow more int he system and develop a good understanding of where his guy's will be on the field. On a scale of 1-10 i'd give him a solid 6, close to 7, thus far. After the week 1 debacle, he's looked relatively good. The more he play's, the better he'll perform. I like Vick, but I don't like what Andy's doing. If this was supposed to be Kolb's year, then why is Vick the starter. They anointed Vick the guy after he beat up on the Lions. Idk if it's because of the O-line struggles or whatever, but if Kolb's the guy then you should be willing to let him take some lumps, the line isn't as horrid as people make it out to be. I get the inkling that Vick will be the guy after the season and Kolb will get traded. For Kolb's sake, I hope that's not the case, because we just wasted three years of this kids career. People love to hate on him, for absolutely no reason. The BABYARM comments are so ridiculous, he's proven over the past couple games that he has a strong enough arm. He doesn't need a cannon like McNabb had, that's a rare attribute that all qb's wish to have. Someone said there were rookies that have played better than Kolb in 2010...WHO??? If Kolb had Steven Jackson in the backfield he's be performing on a similar level to Bradford, who has been solid, but not overly awesome, he's great for a rookie QB.— Omorales510
- it's only luck kolb isn't giving bret favre a run for INT's.— escapedcamden4monterey
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- Yep, some rookies coming out of college look better than Kolb. The only reason Kolb did well the week before in the game against Atlanta is because he wasn't any type of pressure the entire game, he had plenty of time to make his throws. Thank is how he got "offensive player of the week". When he plays against the Titans, he got a lot of pressure, and he played awful, how much time does he need to develop, that is an excuse for Kolb and it is getting pretty old.— charmaine
- As some have already stated, Kolbs does not have the arm strength to make the deep ball accurately and consistently. He's struggling to get it down field which has affected his accuracy, and he's simply not able to put enough velocity on his throws to take advantage of these ultra fast receivers that we have.
Furthermore, people need to look at the reasons everyone claimed KK was a better fit than McNabb and now Vick. The big thing everyone kept saying was Kevin Kolb was so much more accurate than McNabb. There was going to be no more underthrowing and receivers would now be catching balls in stride. Well clearly Kolb does not have the accuracy everyone claimed he has, and with the deep ball it's even worse. Does that mean he will never be able to complete a pass in the NFL? Of course not. It just means he has one more flaw to add to a fairly large list. So just in case we've forgotten, lets list them.
-He's interception prone.
-He's got a weak arm.
-Now we see he's not as accurate as people thought.
-He's not particularly mobile.
-He's hasty in his decision making and prefers to get rid of the ball to the first person he sees instead of seeing if there's open receivers down field.
So what then may I ask is the reason we are all saying he's the future of this team? What are his strengths? Does he have any? There's just nothing that stands out to me. Most of the great QBs in history have had at least one or more traits that they excelled at. Manning and Montana had their accuracy, Young could run, Favre had durability and the ability to improvise, Ellway had a great arm. Kolb has what?? Do we see him being a standout in any category now or in the future? I'm not talking the best mind you, but just plain being above average in something.
Clearly Vick, despite his flaws, has far more assets to work with, as did McNabb. Why do we want a low average QB as the future of this team?— JFW3 - Agreed, Kolb is nothing special but is a great backup to have. — brmorgen81
- As far as near interceptions, all the QBs have then every game. Doesn't matter if it's Brady or Manning. The bottom line is he didn't have them. While Kolb did play a subpar game, it must be remembered that both he and Collins were not very successful throwing into the wind. Kolb will be just fine, and I'm not a Kolb guy or a Vick guy. I'm for whoever can win that Lombardi for us.— REVOLUTION
- Kolb needs more reps? Are you kidding me? He had all the reps he needed during the summer when he was pronounce the starter which indicated that the coaches knew he was ready. Kolb had some pretty decent moments between the 5 games. We have Vick who just jump in after career slump and had turned up the heat. Now if Kolb jump in as a starter in the middle of the season, I would agree he needs more time to develop, but he didn't. Right now, we need Vick to develop. He's already good, we need time for him to be great. @wolf & @jtj06 we can talk about the Kolb salad later after the colts game.— gauwow
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- Zeru, yeah people can have opposing views and not engage in some of the vitreol that some other "unnamed" posters do. The idea is to get the best QB out there. Right now it looks like Vick but if in the end it turns out to be Kolb I won't have a problem with that either. Some of these guys have got to stop seeing the QB as a black QB or a white QB. Gotta stop rooting for players in general. It's the team that's important, teeny boppers can apply elsewhere. Gettin' late. Later pal.— tpizza
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- It seem as if Kolb cannot have a bad game according to many of the the posters. He lost to the Titans. I believe the Eagles under Reid have never beaten the Titans, and Reid has a very poor record against good AFC teams. The NFC has a whole has a losing record against the AFC. So Kolb lost to a pretty good team after beating a decent team the week before. It happens, he's not going to go undefeated. But there were a lot of other problems that happened during that game that determined the outcome, especially on defense.— watsonmr
- In the last two weeks, against opponents who are 10-4, Kolb performed as well or better than all of the following QBs- Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Donovan McNabb. He led the only Eagle victory over a winning team in their last 23 games. In 5 total games against a fairly tough schedule- champs, 2 5-2 teams, and 2 weak teams- he has been NFL offensive player of the week twice. He led a victory over a team with a winning record, something that has been impossible for McNabb & Vick with essentially the same players. In those games he threw TD passes at a rate of 29 per 16 games. For perspective, McNabb beat that one season in his career and Vick has never passed for more than 20 in a season. So Kolb has produced. No question about it. Those are rock solid facts. If he maintains without improving, he will be a sure Hall of Famer. If he improves with more playing time...look out!— jtj06
- @jtj06.. have you see the current QB rating for Vick currently at 108.8% right now with only 2 1/4 games, even though its already decided, wouldn't you want to or hope you can hope he can continue that stats? It's the best for the team. We saw Kolb Stats 2 games before the Titans and they were great, and what did we say, let Kolb play because he is running hot. But anyhow, he went cold. We are currently half way in the season. Improving playing time is for before preseason. We need to pull off wins. Vick was able to beat the Jags who had beat the Colts, have a little confidences, Vick behind the line would have the offensive putting scores on the board, not field goals. — gauwow
- Yeah and Vick has a 90 game track record and has done this in the past. Check weeks 7 & 8 of his most recent season as a full time starter (Pittsburgh and Cincinnati, 2 wins: 37-57, 523 yds, 7 TDs and 2 INTs). Then check weeks 9-12 (Detroit, Cleveland, Baltimore and New Orleans, 0 wins: 53-117, 571 yds, 3 TDs and 4 INTs). This is typical Mike Vick. He has played for years, looked great at times and turns around and looks horrible. How can anyone say, based on 2 games against dreadful defenses- Kitna will torch Jax this week too- that Vick is any better than the inconsistent, average-to-poor passer he was for 5 solid years? — jtj06
- That's not a misprint. That's 53-for-117 or 45% over 4 weeks in the NFL. That has to be a modern day record. Who else is capable of such a feat and that's just 7 starts ago for Vick. What has changed? — jtj06
- Ahhh Listen to the Moronic Philly fans at their best. Now Kolb, The NFL Player of the Week, prior to this last game, sucks. I've been cheering for the Eagles since Sonny was here and I've got to start siding with the Deadskins fans and Ravens fans down here. You people are idiots and jerks. The Titans are a good club and it was the Eagles Defense that gave up that game. Kolb has not a great game and you're down on him. How many starts has the guy had?? Give him a freekin' chance already, which it looks like he won't have since Vick is starting again. Fickle Philly fans - indeed.— Phillyexp
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- Shock, no one knows the future dude, we get a few breaks who knows maybe this is the year brother. Remember 2008 season? get in wild card, play it to final? except this time we do have a weapon x in Vick. Kevin may have permanent damage from concussions and throwing picks. I certainly would rather see what Kafka can do than waste another opportunity on Kevin (he doesnt get it, protecting the ball does not mean play toss and cacth with the full back...nor the other extreme, where all you want to do is throw for 300 yards and get more records, its the only way to Unite the Phillyfaithful. — jameslaka
- I'm a Vick and Kolb fan although I think Vick will lead the team to more wins if he stays healthy. The team plays so much better and looks energetic when Vick's in the game. The receivers are clicking the running game is clicking and then you've got Vick waiting in the winds for something to fall apart so that he can rip off a 30 yard run. Spying him don't work, blitzing don't work and week after week you have defenses drawing up plans just to stop him. Kolb will be great but he is just not there yet. I happen to think that his arm strenth is descent, however after a couple of quarters his arm gets tired and he starts to make bad throws. The eagle will make the playoffs because they are getting better with each game. GO EAGLES!— Tonygh12
- watsonmr, reasonable comments, as always. It just brings us back to the same old question though. If it's Kolb for the future why play Vick. If Kolb is the future why bench him. I don't get what they're doing and I really don't care who plays QB but I don't want to sacrifice next year for a feeble playoff run this year either. Hard to understand this unless Vick is the QB of the future too. He can't be traded. He's a FA so what's to gain by doing this?— tpizza
- ppizza-you are finally picking up what i am putting down.....wolf. — wolf 4
- tpizza, I hear people say that Vick won't be here next year, but how does anyone know that? If he was a stand up guy, he should resign with the Eagles, since they were the only team that offered him a contract and gave him a 2nd chance, provided the offer was legitimate. But there's still many games to play, and he hasn't played poorly. Who knows , he may have had a bad game against the Skins, but we will never know. When he got injured, they were down 14-0. But with the NFC a toss up, especially now with Romo down, Vicks going to get every opportunity to keep them in the playoff hunt.— watsonmr
- That's my point precisely watsonmr. I think the Es DO intend to bring him back. I see no other reason to play him.— tpizza
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