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What they're saying about the Eagles

POSTED: Friday, December 2, 2011, 9:51 AM
Did DeSean Jackson quit on his teammates Thursday night? (Yong Kim/Staff Photographer)

Before I get to the roundup, be sure to check out our Eagles section for complete coverage of last night's game from the Inquirer, Daily News and philly.com.

Here's a look at what the national media are saying:

Matt Bowen of the National Football Post says he's played on a team that packed it in, during Steve Spurrier's final season in Washington, and he was reminded of that squad when he watched the Eagles last night:

Watching the Eagles lose 31-14 to the Seahawks out in Seattle tonight, I saw a team that look disinterested (minus a few players), played with poor technique and didn’t execute the basic fundamentals of the game.

... A general lack of discipline of both sides of the ball. Vince Young's turnovers, missed assignments, etc. That’s on Andy Reid and the players. And from my perspective, I am looking at a team that isn’t responding to coaching. And when you have that disconnect between the locker room and the coaching staff, that is serious trouble.

Seahawks left tackle Russell Okung suffered a potentially serious pectoral injury with 1:57 left in last night's game. The injury occurred when Trent Cole flipped him after a run play. Okung was blocking Cole and appeared to have let up, even though he was still on Cole's back, as the run went to the other side. Cole, after the whistle blew, flipped Okung to the ground.

"I didn’t see the play where they threw him down, but he got hurt," said Seahawks coach Pete Carroll, per the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. "He has a pec injury that doesn’t look good right now. From what I heard, it was really an unnecessary play that didn’t have to happen. You guys will probably see that. I don’t know if you saw it upstairs or not. He got thrown down and hurt his right shoulder or his pec or something. We’ll find out in the next day or so."

According to ESPN.com's Mike Sando, the view in the Seahawks locker room was that Cole took a cheap shot on Okung. I wonder if that play had anything to do with Carroll's decision two plays later. The Seahawks were up 31-17, had a 4th-and-6 and threw for 25 yards to tight end Zach Miller, before taking a knee to end the game.

Moving on, Dan Graziano of ESPN.com says it's simple: the Eagles are losers.

The Eagles are losers. It's as simple as that. One more loss will ensure a losing record for a team that does nothing as well as it does losing. There was absolutely no excuse for the defense to come out the way it did in this game, playing soft, missing tackles and watching Marshawn Lynch, who it knew was Seattle's only real weapon, run over it at will. There was no excuse for DeSean Jackson, who's still moping about his contract after insisting he wouldn't, to be giving up on deep routes when he's the only deep threat the team has. There was no excuse for the Eagles' penalties, for not calling timeout after a third-down stop with a minute left in the first half, for sending 12 men onto the field for a punt return and having to call a timeout when they were still in the game and looked as though they might need their timeouts. These are the careless, lazy, undisciplined acts of losing players and losing teams, and whatever the Eagles might have been or should have been, this is what they are. They are 4-8. They are the most disappointing flop of a team in the entire league. They are losers.

Former Eagle Jeremiah Trotter used Twitter to sound off on the Eagles:

This organization #Eagles have a history of making guys hate playing for them!!!!!!'

#EagleNation u can love playing for the fans an not love playing for front office at same time!

Mike Freeman of CBSSports.com says DeSean Jackson has quit:

If they try to trade him next season his value has dropped precipitously. If they give him a new deal fans will wonder why they gave a guy who quit on the team a new contract. I find it difficult to believe Eagles players trust Jackson. Same with the coaching staff.

In that game on Thursday night, Young was fighting hard. Other Eagles were fighting their asses off. Jackson, um, was not. Because Jackson has flat out quit.


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Comments  (33)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:17 AM, 12/03/2011
    From reading these comments most of you dont deserve a winning team anyway. Because you are losers yourselves. Angry, biased, mad at the world because my life sucks chumps. And your favorate past time is complaining about men that did something with their lives and are fighting for their worth. I"m glad they havent won a superbowl for most of you because alot of you evil in nature. You attract what you put out. Losers.
    Zeru
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:30 AM, 12/03/2011
    Yea , fire all the staff!!! They've been giving the cowboys hell every year!! Andy Reid, knows how to beat us!!! Glad to see the fans actually hanging their king! No more Reid in the east in 2012. Andy, nothing personal but you are good when it comes to beating us! Just glad to see u leave the NFC east! Who knows, we might have an open spot for after the season...... We'll see............
    Mike896
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:22 AM, 12/03/2011
    Eagles sucks!!!!! Hhahhaa. Djax, keep up the good work playa! Love the implosion!!!! To eagles fans:

    KAAAAAABBBBBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!! Hahhaha. Go cowboys!!!!!!! See us this playoffs in 3D!!!!!! Hahahahaha
    Mike896
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:20 AM, 12/03/2011
    The thing I find completely unacceptable about this team is that I (and the rest of their fans) care substantially more about these losses than the majority of the players do. I am getting paid $0.00 to agonize and get frustrated and get downright angry about how this team is playing, while most (not all, but most) of the guys making millions don't seem to care even a little bit.
    kobrakai7474
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:31 PM, 12/02/2011
    I don't quite understand Jeremiah Trotter's comment. HE didn't get the contract he wanted, but a lot other players did. And, he came back ... twice. What's he going to claim next? Battered wife syndrome?
    andrewfrombrooklyn
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:41 PM, 12/02/2011
    "#EagleNation u can love playing for the fans an not love playing for front office at same time!"

    LOL! I think the last people they want to play for are fairweather fans. And if Trotter hated the front office so much, why'd he come back?
    december77
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:44 PM, 12/02/2011
    They have already quit on Reid, and now they are quitting on themselves, which I have not seen them do since the 1970s. A once-proud franchise that is now shameless.
    NM Eagle fan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:31 PM, 12/02/2011
    Trotter's tweet is very telling. The Eagle's organization is famous for using you up and discarding you. Eventually that attitude infects the players (some, not all). The 2012 Eagle are the result. The front office and head coach have to go, otherwise things will never change.
    tyroneslothrop
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:45 PM, 12/02/2011
    Let's reset this whole thing. Perhaps we can get a Super Bowl winner in another fifty or so years.....LOSERS for now!
    psubrian
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:41 PM, 12/02/2011
    eagles = the joke of the nfl.
    bloodymess
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:09 PM, 12/02/2011
    It all starts from the top. Sometimes it's not always the players. Maybe in Indy it is, but Manning is a rare type of player. What players did San Fran. bring in this year to jumpstart their wonderful transformation? Who did Houston sign to get their defense to go from one of the worst to first even after losing Mario Williams for the year?
    There's a very fine line between winning and losing in this league and that fine line starts with coaching. To decide to start the season with Casey Matthews at LB was stupidity. To decide to try and win games without your best player touching the ball the maximum amount of times was stupidity. To make an offensive line coach your defensive coordinator was stupidity. To think that Vince Young would be a legit. backup QB in a pass happy offense was stupidity. To continue to play DRC as the nickle corner knowing he has no interest in the job was stupidity. To sign Nnamdi and play him in a zone defense was stupidity. To have Desean Jackson return punts is stupdity. To continue to dress Desean Jackson is stupidity. To play a wide 9 when you have nowhere near the quality of LB's needed to make it work is stupidity. I'm sure I missed a few but you get the picture. The way they handled this season made the fine line as wide as the Grand Canyon.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:55 PM, 12/02/2011
    Reid says that Jackson is less productive because teams are paying more attention and double-covering -- the same thing that's often done to other Class A receivers, usually with little effect. We have to conclude that either Jackson is NOT an A receiver - and not entitled to big bucks - or that he is an A mental case. Maybe both. Whatever, he has let down his fans and team in a big way. He seems to be a T.O. clone - a great guy and super talent for a year or so, then a whiner, griper, and general cancer.
    wgiambatista
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:35 PM, 12/02/2011
    Sheil, those are some serious words from former NFLer Matt Bowen - any way they can be forwarded directly to Jeff Lurie for his consideration?!!
    Mr. Magee
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:14 PM, 12/02/2011
    This team has QUIT on Andy Reid. There is no turning that back. We need a new Head Coach. Please Lurie if you are listening, please put Reid and Castillo out of their (and our) misery. This is an absolute nightmare. Lurie, if care care any about this franchise or fan base, please fire Andy now. Even Marty as interim HC would be better than what you are putting on the field right now.
    TheBIG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:39 PM, 12/02/2011
    Poor talent evaluation is where it went wrong. The defense has 5 special teamers starting.

    In order for Kurt Coleman to play in this league his arms would have to grow five feet longer because in coverage, that's how far he always is from the receiver.

    Additionally, I told my wife to cut me off, last night, because I thought I saw an Eagles LB make a tackle at the end of the first half.
    banned
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:59 PM, 12/02/2011
    You are right, it starts with poor talent evaluation. If Reid is gone, but we still have that great football talent evaluator Howey Roseman running the draft next year, we are doomed. Add to that, a defensive coordinator that is by far the least qualified in the league, it's easy to see why we are losers. Bad talent evaluation in players, coaches, and front office personnel. Time to clean out the mess, starting at the front office.
    OverFiftyYears
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:14 PM, 12/02/2011
    Vince Young was correct in calling this team the "Dream Team". However, he failed to mention that the dream he was referring to is a nightmare and that he would be at the helm it. Shame on us for believing . . .
    vinonoir
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:08 PM, 12/02/2011
    Stop making excuses for DeSean. The Eagles not giving him a contract is the ONLY thing this team has gotten right all year. Anyone who thinks the Eagles paying him would have prevented this is fooling themselves. He's a soft, petulant child as a receiver and the Eagles knew it and they didn't offer him a longterm contract because of it. Kudos to them.
    awl
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:44 AM, 12/03/2011
    I agree that not giving DJax the money was of of the things the birds did get right. Maybe the eagles didnt pay him because he has no heart. Whether he had the money or not he would be short arming passes across the middle and running out of bounds and diving to the ground to avoid hits. People talk about his enormous talent. After you say he is very fast you have said all the good things you can say. He doesnt run good routes, he doesnt have great hands, cant/wont block, and he is worthless in the red zone. And no he isnt a team player. I am sure he has more than a few teammates who would like to smack the kid. I cant believe a blue collar town like philly would want to cave to a punk like Jackson.
    Strom
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:58 PM, 12/02/2011
    DeSEanis right, Eagles are screwing him...If Eagles had refused to pay Vick his $100 million...Vick would be doing the same thing DeSean is doing.
    frank105
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:55 PM, 12/02/2011
    Andy quit also. He is coaching and speaking like a man trying to get fired. I think he just wants to sit in a diner all day and collect a fat pay check for doing nothing the next two years
    Luriesucks
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:49 PM, 12/02/2011
    I think Reid knows Jackson has quit. He's just trying to play things down because there's still games left to play and he doesn't want things to get even worse. And yes, it can get worse - at least so far the team has refrained from publicly trashing one another. What a hideous season.
    p-diddy
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:16 PM, 12/02/2011
    Young was seen in Egypt. He was in "denial."
    palmyra21
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:45 PM, 12/02/2011
    Really lame attempt at humor.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:16 PM, 12/02/2011
    once again the front office has ruined things for the fans. They should have paid DJax and they wouldn't have this problem. Now he's become a cancer and probably will be doing something spectacular for another team next year.
    Northeaster
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:47 AM, 12/02/2011
    Trots a weasel for saying that.. If he was such a tough guy he should have said that during his 2nd go around with the team.
    FABER
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:44 AM, 12/02/2011
    DeSean is a chump. I used to like the guy. No more. What a loser.
    s
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:16 AM, 12/02/2011
    If they don't have anything nice to say they shouldn't say anything at all.
    bc3030
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:52 AM, 12/02/2011
    A bunch of losers! Clean house for 2012!
    MRD
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:44 AM, 12/02/2011
    I think the play where Lynch came free for a touchdown after being in the middle of a scrum for 5 to 10 seconds pretty much encapsulated the entire season. The players were there, they made the play, and yet somehow, inexplicably, didn't make the play.
    words_matter
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:43 AM, 12/02/2011
    Remember the days when the big coach went for character guys? Seems so long ago.

    Was it all JJ?
    COskier
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:36 AM, 12/02/2011
    I'm embarrassed
    PhillyFanSouth
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:25 AM, 12/02/2011
    I'm embarrassed
    beerflow


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