Revisiting Eagles-Cowboys draft day trades
News blogs, sports blogs, entertainment blogs, and more from Philly.com, The Philadelphia Inquirer and the Philadelphia Daily News.
Revisiting Eagles-Cowboys draft day trades
Sheil Kapadia, Philly.com
Twice in the past five drafts, the Eagles and Cowboys have made trades that will significantly affect who we'll see on the field for each team Sunday night.
In 2007, the Birds sent their first-round pick (26th overall) to Dallas for a second-round pick, a third-round pick and a fifth-round pick.
The Cowboys ended up taking outside linebacker Anthony Spencer out of Purdue. In the second round, as you may recall, the Eagles drafted Kevin Kolb (36th overall). In the third, they took Stewart Bradley (87th overall). And in the fifth, they took defensive back C.J. Gaddis (159th overall).
So, how'd that turn out four years later?
Let's start with Spencer. He's started every game for the Cowboys since 2009 and has 18.5 career sacks. Based on coverage in the Dallas papers, the take on Spencer is that he flashed great potential in 2009, but didn't live up to expectations the following season. Results so far this year under Rob Ryan have been favorable, and Spencer has three sacks in six games.
He's started 44 games in four-plus seasons, but has never made a Pro Bowl.
Meanwhile, Kolb didn't bring the Eagles much in terms of on-field production. He started seven games, was awarded the starting job in 2010 and then lost it to Michael Vick. The Eagles got a second-round pick and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie back for him this offseason.
Bradley only started 29 games for the Eagles, although it felt like he had been here for a long time. He really only had one good year - 2008. Bradley missed all of 2009 with an injury and was pretty average in 2010. He signed with the Cardinals as a free agent and has been on the field for only about 21 percent of the defensive snaps, according to Pro Football Focus.
Gaddis never played a snap for the Eagles.
It's worth noting that the Eagles have just one player still on the roster from that 2007 draft: Brent Celek.
So going forward, the impact of that trade will really be Rodgers-Cromartie and next year's second-round pick vs. Spencer. A couple months ago, I probably would have argued that the Eagles would have the edge in that comparison, but Rodgers-Cromartie has been unimpressive, and the Eagles haven't exactly been getting great production from their draft picks the last two seasons.
The second trade took place in 2010. The Eagles moved down four spots in the second round to No. 59 and gave the Cowboys the 55th overall pick. The Birds also picked up a fourth-rounder.
At No. 55, Dallas selected linebacker Sean Lee. He's the Penn State product who will be wearing No. 50 and flying all around the field at the Linc Sunday night. Lee is the Cowboys' leading tackler. He also has three interceptions and never comes off the field, having missed only two snaps in the last four games, according to PFF.
Too bad the Eagles are stocked at linebacker and couldn't have used a guy like that...
The Birds took tight end Clay Harbor with the extra fourth-round pick, but ended up trading the No. 59 pick to Cleveland for a third-rounder (No. 71 overall) and two fifth-rounders (Nos. 134 and 146 overall).
They were not done yet, though, trading the 71st pick to the Packers for the 86th pick and a fourth-rounder (No. 122). At 86, the Eagles picked Daniel Te'o-Nesheim.
At No. 122, the Eagles selected Mike Kafka.
Getting back to the fifth-rounders the Eagles received from the Browns, they selected Ricky Sapp with one and traded the other to the Chargers. With the one pick from San Diego, they took Riley Cooper at No. 159. The Eagles also got a 2011 fifth-rounder in the deal, selecting running back Dion Lewis.
Got all that? Here's the Cliff Notes version: The Cowboys got Lee; and the Eagles ended up with six players: Te'o-Nesheim, Harbor, Kafka, Sapp, Cooper and Lewis.
Te'o-Nesheim was labeled a reach at the time and is spending this season on the practice squad. Sapp left the team during training camp. Cooper hasn't done much, although I'm not ready to write him off as a potential contributor. His value took a hit when the Eagles added Steve Smith this offseason.
Harbor at least has a role as the second tight end and has improved in his sophomore season. Kafka could end up being the backup in 2012. And I like what I've seen from Lewis in limited action.
So overall, two of the players are no longer on the 53-man roster, and none of the other four are starters.
Obviously, it looks like the Cowboys ended up with quality, and the Eagles ended up with quantity in that deal. When it comes to having an impact in Sunday night's matchup, it's no contest that Dallas has the edge.
IF THE EAGLES SIGNED FREE...
There were reports that the Eagles wanted to sign Cowboys offensive tackle Doug Free in the offseason. Apparently, Free all but admitted that the reports were true (without coming outright and saying so) when speaking to the Dallas media.
"I don’t know anything about that, no, sorry," Free said with a smile on his face, per Todd Archer of ESPNDallas.com.
Andy Reid didn't exactly deny interest either.
"I think he’s a good player," Reid said. "I can’t tell you I thought we ever had him. I will tell you I do like him and I did like him back in that period."
What would the line look like if the Eagles had signed Free? He would have played right tackle, and Todd Herremans would have likely never slid over, remaining at left guard. Evan Mathis probably would have won the right guard spot, and Danny Watkins very likely would still be on the sidelines.
Finally, guess who's simulating Vick for the Cowboys at practice? Dez Bryant. Calvin Watkins of ESPNDallas.com has some details. And in case you missed it from Thursday night, I posted 15 things you should know about this matchup.
You can follow me on Twitter or become a fan of Moving the Chains on Facebook.
Andy wants mediocre guys because they know they have a job only because Andy took pity. 4thand10
Andy Reid can't draft. If he could, they would have won two superbowls. Ray Rhodes left him with Thomas, Dawkins, Trotter, Douglas and host of other talent. Next question. Fritz and Alice
Another PSU LB twist here...San Fran drafted Navarro Bowman four slots after Te'o -Nesheim in 2010; the same Navarro Bowman who looked pretty good against us a few weeks back. So we did our stupid draft day jitterbugging and let two strong players (from our backyard almost) get away. Thanks Howie! chesapeake
Yeah but you can't argue with the success of Teo....I mean Sapp.... Uh, Harbor.......Nevermind. The fact that we have desperately needed a legit linebacker and the michelin man trades 4 spots with the hated cowboys and gets Teo sums up how he has been as a G.M. But he makes up for it by sucking as a coach, he needs to go! yourdaddy!
Whatever talent and potential DRC has, the Eagles will destroy it. ej610
Wait a minute.so ur telling me two solid players is better than fifteen that suck.no,i dont buy that. Illeagle
Spencer and Lee are average players at best. Mr. Smith
We should have had JJP or E.Thomas or Pouncey, Sean Lee, Bowman....heck we should have had Chad Johnson over FredEx thght that was a given but we are talking about clueless Reid !!! We could go on forever about draft picks. The main problem is although I loved Jimmy Johnson, his scheme was prefect but his small player preference was flawed !!! See us vs NE in the SB ..vs...The Gmen vs NE ...the Gmen big strong fast Dline dominated with Spags running JJ's scheme...heck they won with 17pts we had 21 vs NE.. diehardeagle
Mr. Smith has your wife beaten you sensless again? Have you seen Lee play this year...you will Sun when he is amped up and knocking people all over the place..... tsump
Didn't Reid and his staff sign or draft every player on the team? What team has won more games than any other team in the league since Reid has been coach? I guess if you measure their success by looking at every single player that was available when they drafted and cherry pick the ones who have turned out well, the Eagles suck at drafting. Except you'd be an idiot to look at it that way. Every pick should be viewed in the context of who was currently on the roster, what they needed, what money was available to sign draft picks, what they were trying to do in the free agent market that year. Talent wise, the Eagles are the top team in the league right now. Number 1. They also probably have the best coaching staff in the league. The Eagles lost a bunch of games this year because of issues like poor tackling. Does that mean they did a bad job evaluating talent? Is it bad coaching? No. It's bad tackling. They did better against the Redskins. They couldn't miss tackles if they weren't in the position to make a tackle. They couldn't make tackles against the Redskins if they didn't have the ability. They have a lot of new players and a new defensive scheme. No off seasons. So, very, very predictable, they struggled early on. To then make a judgement on coaching, drafts, free agents, talent and such on the early poor play is ridiculous. One has nothing to do with the other. They have better talent this year than last. They have better coaches than they did last year. Under the circumstances, no assessment can be made until after the end of NEXT season. MikeP
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/09000d5d8238939c/Playbook-Cardinals-vs-Ravens?continuous=true
I dont know what the Eagles were thinking by letting that Kevin Kolb guy go... Zeru
So the big gap in the run defense wasnt Juan Castillo's fault? Making 3 of the best man to man corners in the league play zone in a foreign scheme that the Eagles havent run isnt bad coaching? Signing as many skilled position players as you can while ignoring the offensive line wasnt bad personell decisions? Signing "motor guys" vs getting the talent you need is a good decision? ( Brandon graham vs Earl Thomas ) Taking players in the 2nd 3rd 4th rounds when other teams wouldnt have taken them that soon or if at all? This isnt revisionist history.. because we scratch our heads with the rest of the NFL while the decisions are being made. Eagles fans say huh @ every draft thats why i dont even watch it anymore. Whatever the teams consensus need is you can always count on the Eagles to do the opposite. If the top 32 players in the draft are proclaimed by every scout in the NFL count on the Eagles to draft a player who is between 90th-200th to be drafted in the first and second rounds. Or better yet draft a 30 year old rookie in the first round who plays rugby and fights fires while just picking up the game 2 or 3 years ago. Yeah.. whatever.. The EAgles are another Green Bay Packers just waiting to happen. Waiting.. Zeru
Thanks for reminding us about the picks. Don't you think we've been tortured enough? Geno D
The Eagles apparently like the shot gun approach. Scatter enough shot and you are bound to hit somewhere. In these trades they may have picked up a nice back in Lewis and eventually got DCR. Don't forget that second round pick next year, that they'll probably turn in to six more picks, one of which may actually be a decent back-up who makes a couple of starts due to injury. BeFrank
Comment removed.


