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Peters, McNabb and ex-Eagles
Sheil Kapadia, Philly.com
Jason Peters was named to the AP All-Pro first team. (Alex Brandon/AP Photo)
On Friday, Jason Peters was named to the AP All-Pro first team for the first time in his career.
Peters was dominant and consistent in the run game throughout the season and kept some of the best defensive ends in the league away from Michael Vick.
According to Football Outsiders, Peters allowed just one sack all season (to Jason Taylor). Pro Football Focus has that number at three. But either way, he held up well in pass protection all season under Howard Mudd.
Then there's the issue of penalties. Peters was called for 10 penalties in his first season with the Eagles, drawing the ire of many fans. Last season, he reduced that number to seven. And according to PFF, it was seven again this season. Their numbers show that 22 offensive tackles had more penalties than Peters in 2011, and 31 other tackles had at least seven.
In other words, Peters was above average in that category also.
McNABB ON TV
Donovan McNabb will be a guest analyst on ESPN's Sunday NFL Countdown tomorrow. We've known for years that McNabb was looking to pursue a career in TV after his playing days were over.
And that time may have very well arrived.
McNabb was released by the Vikings in early December, but apparently no team wanted to sign him for the final stretch of the season. He turned 35 in November. In six starts with the Vikings, McNabb completed 60.3 percent of his passes for 1,026 yards, four touchdowns and two interceptions. Minnesota was just 1-5 in those games before handing the offense over to rookie Christian Ponder.
We'll find out this offseason if any team takes on McNabb as a backup in 2012.
CHECKING IN ON EX-EAGLES
I've seen quite a few ex-Eagles pop up in various articles/lists in recent weeks.
For example, according to Football Outsiders' charting numbers, Dimitri Patterson had an outstanding season with the Browns. His 67 percent success rate was seventh in the NFL among cornerbacks who were targeted at least 28 times.
Chris Sprow put out a list on ESPN.com of the best players per dollar at each position. One of his defensive ends was Chris Clemons, and his outside linebacker was Antwan Barnes.
Clemons has had 11 sacks in each of the past two seasons with the Seahawks. In two seasons with the Eagles (2008-2009), he had seven. The Birds traded Clemons and a fourth-round pick to Seattle for Darryl Tapp.
Barnes only played a couple games with the Eagles back in 2010 before he was released. With the Chargers, he had 11 sacks this season.
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Comments (40)
I would love to see McNabb backing up Vick next year...also, I knew they shouldn't have gotten rid of Patterson and Clemons....big mistake...why does Hanson make this team, but not Patterson?? And Barnes? Who knew...who is our evaluator on defense?? Imagine having these guys over Hanson, any of our other outside LBs and Parker???
Comment removed.- The line coach for a couple years, Segrest, was terrible as a line coach and, previously, as the special teams coach. Clemons, Babin, and, apparently, the entire defensive line underachieved with him. LBs and CBs still aren't getting coached up very well with Caldwell and Zordich.— calm weather
- The evaluators on defense are Roseman, Castillo and for the d-line, Washburn. I seriously doubt Reid asserts his opinion when it comes to defensive players.— p-diddy
- good example of poor player personnel evaluations. You can count Babin on this list too as we let him go cheap only to have to pay a heafty contract to get him back again. Petterson was always a decent DB and at least could tackle which is more then you can say about the current group and how do let Barnes go and keep the group we have now??? LB coach and secondary coaches need to be replaced as a start and add Juan to that group please— connorjr
- McNabb will prob retire before he signs as a backup.— Sidewinder7
- It will be interesting to watch if McDope vomits all over the ESPN set tomorrow. His TV analyst debut shouldn't be on NFL Countdown...it should be on The Biggest Loser for various reasons.— The Dude Abides
- McLoad on TV? Ouch, think I'd rather have him throwing at ankles in another time zone. He's way too ugly for TV anyways...— ratherlistenontheradio
- Wasn't Dmitri Patterson thought of as like the worst cornerback ever last year? Wasn't the consensus that he was a large part of why we gave up so many passing touchdowns last year, and stunk in the red zone? And who was really bemoaning Chris Clemons' departure for Darryl Tapp? Fans here are so F.O.S.— andrewfrombrooklyn
- FOS is an understatement. The fans on this site just parrot what the media tells them and the media parrots whatever their "inside source" from the Eagles tell them. Good for Clemons but he wouldn't have had 11 sacks here beause he wouldn't have been on the field enough bc he isn't the player that Cole or Babin are so who cares. Patterson: Just because some site grabs some stats and claims a guy had a great season doesn't make it true. He was a part-time player on a team that was 30th in the league against the run. The starters were Haden and good ole Sheldon Brown. Make of it what you will but being the slot DB on passing downs on a team that most teams chose to run the ball down their throats doesn't turn him into a future All-pro. Oh, and Babin doesn't have a monster contract. He outperformed his 6 million by about 8-10 million. — UncleStosh
- I always said McNabb was going into the hall of fame. I am right, he was, but he isn't now. From what I saw, his work ethic just wasn't there anymore. He was very familar in the Eagles system and it showed but I don't think he studied film like he needed to continue to be successful. If you are getting older and slower, you better get smarter or it is not for long.
Really it is too bad, I would have gone to Canton to see the induction, guess I will just go see Dawkins instead!!!! He is can't miss HOF.— willbert31 - McNabb was a much better QB for Eagles, than the loser Vick...McNabb won many playoff and big games....Vick has never even won a stinkin' playoff game for Eagles...LOL.— frank105
- This is true, Vick only has 2 career playoff wins in his entire career yet people think he is great, I'll never get it. You can run around and beat bad teams in the regular season but once it gets to tough teams and the playoffs, he can't do it. McNabb was good, was never going to carry the team on his back, but they could have won with him with the right pieces. The Eagles cut their ties at the right time with him, but still have not replaced him. — Sidewinder7
- Vick is a waste of time for the Eagles...and a waste of life as a human being. If he's not in prison (like he should be)...he should be kept in a cage outside. McNabb is a better human being than Vick by far, but a total choking loser that will NEVER be in the HOF. Philly needed a Rocky mentality at the QB position. Unfortunately with McNabb....we got Adrian.— The Dude Abides
- We are all, by nature, clearly oriented toward the basic human values of love and compassion. We all prefer the love of others to their hatred. We all prefer others’ generosity to meanness. And who is there among us who does not prefer tolerance, respect and forgiveness of our failings to bigotry, disrespect, and resentment? The Dalai Lama
- McNabb on ESPN...Can't to hear him say nothing.— joedavola
- Peters is a great one. Could be HOF if he ever gets on a team that accomplishes anything.— jtj06
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- Don't care about his criminal history I care about the fact that he can not play QB in this league. His stats and success or lack thereof support that. — Sidewinder7
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- This comments section is a prime example why the people of Philadelphia are just miserable people. 18 comments and only one of them was made for a current player, to applaud his season. The rest was to complain about guys who previously played here. Ridiculous. Can't appreciate anything you have but can only negatively focus on what you don't. Typical Philly.— beegal99
- Typical Philly is right on, beegal99. We KNOW LOSERS (even degenerate ones) when we see them. You can continue to walk around town with blinders on.....And Crusader is a MORON!!— The Dude Abides
- How ironic is it that Garcia is on a playoff roster, but McNabb doesn't have a team to play for. I don't think he's all that great as a commentator either. Doesn't really have the voice for it. As far as a backup, he was relegated to backup status the last 2 years, and all he did was complain. What coach needs that?— watsonmr
- And you armchair QB should understand the other divisions are not as tough as the EAST. With our record this season and if we were in the West we would be in the playoffs and you know it. Vick IS a great QB and he wants the big game as much as anyone. McNabb is great too, I wish they didn't trade him but...money talks. Need more protection for Vick and we have it. Next season 13 and 3, Eagles vs 49ers in Bowl. Mark my words.— Showtime226
- Vick had protection, he held onto the ball too long and ran from pressure that was not there into sacks. Vick can't beat anything but bad teams, he never has. He is a turnover machine who doesn't think his lead leading turnovers were the reason this team struggled this year. Vick is great you say, but you don't back it up. — Sidewinder7
- mcnabb will be lol on tv. he tries too hard to say something important and sound intelligent.— bloodymess
- Showtime226, you do realize the eagles were 1-3 vs. the NFC West this season. If they were in that division they would have had a losing record. And PS, unless Goodell is planning on re-aligning the leagues the Eagles and 49ers are in the same conference and can't play in 'Bowl'...Do you even watch football?— TXEaglesFan
- It appears it was the coaching on the Defensive Line. Mike Paterson played brilliantly this year under the new coach. The Linebacker coach needs to be thoroughly evaluated before next season.— Dexter
- I'm an Eagles Fan who is glad we have Vick instead of holding on to Kevin Kolb. Matched up against all the other QBs in the League the Eagles could have gotten at some point or the other, Vick is a great bargain.
Vick is as accomplished as Tony Romo or Phillip Rivers or god forbid, Matt Cassell. I'm ok with Vick over Eli Manning within the Division.
Who would you want other than Brady, Rogers, Brees and Big Ben? Even at 8 and 8 football is good in Philly, it's just you guys don't know it, Andy has spoiled you.
I've been an Eagles Fan 50 years, I know better.
— Dexter - McNabb-- forever hated; scorn eternally deserved— Ashburn072
- You usually do a thorough job. There seem to be many ex eagles playing around the league and many would be eagles if the team had drafted them when they had a chance (hard not to think of Piere Paul as an eagle). How about an updated comparison of all these players and their replacements or "drafted instead"?— frd
- I can see in now. Don sitting there being asked how horrible it was in Philly and how we didn't love him. It's going to be unwatchable.— delcodanno
- Dexter - I would take Eli. He plays in all 16 games, which you want your starter to do, and he is a Super Bowl winning QB. And right now, I'd probably go with Stafford and Ryan. I like mobile Qb's, but the more football changes, the more it stays the same. The Qb's that stay in the pocket, and are accurate passers, are the QB's that win the big one.— watsonmr
- It's over guys. The nEaglews will be playing the elite teams next year in the first half and be out of it by mid season. The axe will fall on a lot of people. If we get a bright new coach who knows all about the new offenses, the rebuilding will be quick. If we get another retred coach who keeps Vick we will be like the Rams in 2013.— mario1239
- If mush mouth Shannon Sharpe and Michael Strahan can be an analyst, McNabb can do it no problem. Only thing is McNabb thinks he's funny, but he's not.— The Beast
- @TheBeast: McNabb speaks well for an athlete. Additionally, he has a college degree in speech communications. Something most of his detractors don't have in their own lives, yet find time to rip him even though he's a few years removed from the Birds.— beegal99
- Mcnabb isnt better than Vick by a long shot. If Vick got drafted instead of Mcnabb under Andy Reid the Eagles would have won at least 2 superbowls by now. Mcnabb is and was always a politician not a Qb.— Zeru
- HOF??? HOF??? are you kidding me????hahahahahahahaha— SkipinWV
- Typical fans. Blame the quarterback for everything. There was no time during the Eagles' run with McNabb that they had the most talented roster in the NFL. Even in 2004, the Vikings may have been more talented than the Eagles. Despite this fact, the Eagles were consistent winners. Of course, I like everyone in here, wants a Super Bowl. But to win the thing, you gotta have the horses. If you expected the Eagles to win a SB with Thrash and Pinkston, you are delusional. If you expected the Eagles to win the SB when Kevin Curtis and Reggie Brown (and Desean as a rookie) were the primary receiving options, that's just not logical. If anything, McNabb over-achieved. Not everyone can be Tom Brady. He's the best at making lemonades out of lemons. But other guys like Eli, Peyton, Brees,Big Ben, and Rivers have had talent up and down their rosters. To me, when people rip McNabb but give the rest of the team a pass, is totally asinine.— JayDuce
- If McNabb does wind up as a commentator, I just hope somebody tells him at some point that not every sentence has to begin with "Obviously".— words_matter
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