Posted: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 1:46 PM | 14 comments |
 
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What is your confidence level with the Eagles' wide receivers?
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Today we do the optimist/pessimist thing with the wide receivers.

But first, let's get to your voting results for the tight ends:

4 - 38.2%
3 - 34.8 %
2 - 14.6%
5 - 8.1%
1 - 4.3%

As you can see, over 81 percent of MTC voters registered a 3, 4 or 5.

I was debating between a 3 or a 4 and settled on a 3 since I feel like I've been a little too optimistic with these things.

I liked what I saw from Brent Celek last season. Not sure he has the ceiling of an elite tight end, but I think he can be productive and a nice fit with the rest of the team's offensive personnel. Remember, he's only 24 years old.

Sidenote: Want to feel old? Celek was born in 1985, and this will be his third season in the NFL.

The question of course is can Celek be counted on as a blocker. And no one has that answer. We'll just have to listen to what the coaches say about his progress in camp, but we won't really know until the games begin.

Twitterer SigmundBloom asked if Celek's upside could be 70 catches. As I told him, I think that would be a pretty extreme upside. Only five tight ends hit that mark last season. Celek's success will be measured by his steadiness as a receiver, his capability as a blocker and his worth in the red zone. As I: pointed out in the previous post, he had three red-zone scores in the team's final four games last season. The team really counted on him in the playoffs, and he came through, which is great to see from a young guy.

As for Cornelius Ingram, it looks like they got good value with the fifth-round pick. But no one really knows how he'll be able to contribute in his first season. I'm excited to see him at camp though.

Now on to the wide receivers. The poll is to the right. Remember, 1 means you're worried and 5 means you're supremely confident.

The optimist says...

Donovan McNabb has more weapons than he's had in his entire career here. And it starts at wide receiver. Before last season, we heard all about how DeSean Jackson was too frail, too cocky, etc. And how did he respond? 62 catches for 912 yards. Add Jeremy Maclin to the mix, and the Eagles now have speed and youth at receiver that rivals any team in the NFL. And don't forget about the other guys. The nice part about this group is that everyone has a clear role. Aside from Jackson and Maclin, you have Jason Avant, a great route-runner with tremendous hands and a knack for getting open on third down. Hank Baskett, a guy who has shown the ability to be a big-play threat and a red-zone target if the Eagles use him correctly. And Kevin Curtis, who is back and hopefully healthy. Don't forget that he caught 77 balls for 1,110 yards a couple seasons ago. Who are we missing? Oh yeah, Reggie Brown. Ok, so even an optimist doesn't know what to make of him. But if he has his head on straight, he can be a productive player. He proved that during the 2006 and 2007 seasons.

The pessimist says...

Ahh, I love how we think adding a rookie whose stock fell rapidly on draft day is going to solve this decade-long problem. The truth is this team could have gotten Anquan Boldin for a first-round pick and change. Instead, they drafted Maclin, who will be nowhere near as productive a player in the upcoming season. Why is it never about winning NOW with this team? And the best part is the Eagles have most of the fan-base and media brainwashed into thinking they are now OK at receiver. The best one I heard was "The Eagles have the best receiving corps in the division." Umm... that's because the Cowboys lost T.O. and the Giants got rid of Plaxico. Not because the Eagles got drastically better. There's a difference. You have Curtis coming off of an injury. You're expecting Jackson to improve, even though teams now know he's the No. 1 guy. And you think Maclin, a guy who spent his college career in a spread attack, is going to just pick up the offense right away. Don't forget how many WRs failed here as rookies before Jackson. Then there are the red-zone struggles, which can largely be attributed to this group's inability to get open down near the end zone. Want a stat? Eagles receivers had zero red-zone TDs in the team's final five games, including the playoffs. That's not gonna get it done, my friends.

Posted by Sheil Kapadia @ 1:46 PM  Permalink | 14 comments
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:54 PM, 07/21/2009
    I think there are some valid points made in both cases above, but I agree a bit more with the "optimist" side here--so I'll go "4"...by the way--we're talking about WRs here, not TEs...right Sheil? Check that poll title.
    reils
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:41 PM, 07/21/2009
    So the optimist thinks they'll keep 6 wideouts and Brandon Gibson won't make the team? I consider myself an optimist, but I'm happy with nobody named Brown being on the field this year.
    HandNik
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:08 PM, 07/21/2009
    The eagles have PUNKS at WR. LOL. ANYONE with a football head KNOWS the ONLY reason Jackson was any good because no one was covering him like a #1. it was a fluke season. the eagles are still a joke. hahahaha you guys are geniuses
    morvak
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:12 PM, 07/21/2009
    I think Reggie Brown can be their 2nd best WR next to Jackson. Watch for Curtis to get cut. And I am a white boy saying this! Reggie had an injury all last year. Try playing wide receiver in the NFL with a hamstring problem.
    FetchDixon
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:44 PM, 07/21/2009
    fetch- sorry to tell you, but there is no way Curtis gets cut. He'll catch 60+ balls this season. Brown is terrible even when he was healthy. He'll have a problem making the team in my opinion. morvak- I agree Jackson may be a punk. That doesn't mean I don't like him though. i don't agree with you on anything else you stated. Go birds.
    bpiont
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:57 PM, 07/21/2009
    I wouldn't be surprised if Baskett winds up being the odd man out, but with that said it wasn't injuries that sent Reggie Brown to the inactive list last year. Let's not forget he was healthy by the time the NFC title game rolled around and the team chose to activate Greg Lewis...now that's telling if you ask me. I go 4 with this group overall. I think Jackson, Curtis and Avant have the potential to be the best threesome in the division hands down (whether by attrition or not).
    ChazzLCamino
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:14 PM, 07/21/2009
    Whoops. Sorry for making the poll tight ends instead of receivers at first. Thanks for the heads-up. It's fixed now. What can my excuse be? Eyes still recovering? Yeah, let's go with that. -- SK
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:40 PM, 07/21/2009
    The Eagles have a very well-balanced, talented group of receivers just as the Patriots did winning their 1st 2 SB before Randy Moss. The depth is excellent in case threre is an injury. Reggie Brown does not bring anything to special teams whereas Baskett is a stud on coverages. The better blocking for our running game should help our red zone performance rushing and passing. Go EAGLES, Go Andy Reid, Heckert
    tommy_the_k
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:08 PM, 07/21/2009
    I agree with the pessimist comments as stated more, but neither arguement mentioned the upgrade at OL. If McNabb has more time to find the WR, they will be improved over last year.
    P Even
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:14 PM, 07/21/2009
    for whatever reason, the Eagles hierarchy still have high hopes for Brown. all I can say about that is - we'll see. I think Maclin is the wild card for the offense. it's not imperative for him to be a major factor this year, but if he is, than that will just give this offense another wrinkle. either way, the WR's should be fine. I'll give them a 4...more than anything, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the OL to come together & make the WR's & the entire offense's job easier...
    Reality Speaks
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:47 AM, 07/22/2009
    Gotta agree with the 3. This group has a chance to be scary good in 2-3 years. The FO had a chance to go 'win NOW' and chose not to. This entire off season, from the raise w/o extension to the decision to draft and not trade for a WR, looked like a rebuilding year.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:42 PM, 07/22/2009
    ewww, where is that funky smell coming from?...so the FO had a chance to 'win NOW' & chose not to? ah ha, I see...this has got to be the oldest rebuilding team in NFL history. and the previous post has got to be one of the more inexplicable theories in football...hey Joe, give up the funk...
    bboybeballin
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:22 PM, 07/23/2009
    blueballboy - laugh if you want, where did you see 'win NOW' moves this summer...The OL will take at least half a season to gel, after Westbrook the skill positions are rookies or 2nd year guys (plus Curtis), it would have been cheaper to extend McNabb now since football money is not guaranteed. This team will peak just as McNabb's contract expires. The FO has given up on 5, deal with it.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:16 PM, 07/23/2009
    hey Joe, my man! please ease up on the fascination w/ my sac...now to address your "rebuilding" theory. I see the 'win NOW' moves w/ the raise the FO gave to McNabb when HE asked for one instead of an extension...I see the 'win NOW' moves w/ the four-year extension worth $53 million given to Jason Peters...I see the 'win NOW' moves w/ the multi-year deal averaging $7 million per season they gave to Stacy Andrews...I see the 'win NOW' moves w/ Andy Reid saying in a radio interview that the team checked into the availability of Arizona Cardinals WR Anquan Boldin before the NFL draft, but found the price too high. Reid suggested the price might have been 1st-, 3rd- and 5th-round draft picks. "That's a lot of picks, No. 1," Reid said. "And then you're going to pay the guy $10 million. So you get hit on both sides of it."...son, just what are you seeing?
    bboybeballin


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