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Dawk surprised by Vick signing

POSTED: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:40 PM

Former Eagles safety Brian Dawkins was surprised that the Eagles signed Michael Vick, but he was not surprised that Donovan McNabb supported the move.

In an interview with Peter King of Sports Illustrated, Dawkins talks extensively about the Birds' decision to add Vick. He said he remembers McNabb talking to Vick on the phone in the past, adding that McNabb often tries to help young quarterbacks in the league, particularly young African-American quarterbacks.

Dawkins was also asked how McNabb will respond if he's slumping and Eagles fans are clamoring for Vick to get a shot.

"I'll just say that if there's anyone who's been through the fire as a quarterback, it's Donovan," Dawkins said. "The crowd in Philadelphia has chanted for A.J. Feeley, for Koy Detmer, for Kevin Kolb. Donovan stood strong. This is no different. But I honestly think having someone pressing him will be good for Donovan, if it happens. At the end of the day, let's be honest: Eventually Michael will want Donovan's job."

The last part sentence is particularly interesting, and it's true. The question is: When will that time come? When will Vick get an itch to be on the field more, to be a starter? Will it be as soon as he tastes a little bit of success? Will it be later in the year if McNabb struggles? Will it be next year in training camp?

Actually, I'm jumping the gun here like everyone else. First, I want to see how the 2009 Vick compares to the 2006 Vick. But if he's retained his athleticism, and is working hard with Andy Reid and Marty Mornhinweg, the questions are valid.

Dawkins also said Vick's performance could help push McNabb.

"Signing Michael means Donovan will make sure his game stays tight," Dawkins said.

So that's his take. Honest and insightful as always. And keep in mind, Dawkins has had McNabb's back from the start. He knows how he's wired, what motivates him and what makes him uneasy.

***

As you're probably already aware of by now, the Eagles cut safety Rashad Baker and added defensive back Brandon Harrison.

Unless you're a college football junkie, you probably know next to nothing about Harrison. I called on a friend, who is a Michigan man through and through to give me a short description of Harrison.

He e-mailed moments ago:

He’s small, jacked and a hard worker, but I’d be stunned if he made an NFL roster.

So there you have it.

Earlier, we offered some thoughts on Panthers-Giants from last night and the Jason Peters-Osi Umenyiora matchup.

And as for that QB now in Minnesota, well MTC is choosing to formally ignore the story. I have a feeling you might get your fill of it elsewhere.

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Comments  (51)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:55 PM, 08/18/2009
    Dawk confirms what I have felt from the beginning, that Lurie signed Vick because it was a chance to get a younger, faster, healthier experienced QB at a bargain price and have all year to work on his passing gakme before he replaces the aging slower injured QB who costs Lurie more. Dawk knows all about Eagle "loyalty" when age and money are involved! Lurie saw a deal for the future and signed on while covering up greed with his facade of good intentions.
    atp2007
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:11 PM, 08/18/2009
    I wonder if 1.6 this year and 5.2 next year would have kept Dawkins an Eagle..If so I'd rather have him than Vick. Clubhouse chemistry, Banner doesn't believe in it.
    Bex
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:14 PM, 08/18/2009
    Dawk's comments are kind of concerning. I have season tickets, and I don't even remember the crowd chanting for Detmer, Feeley, or Kolb. That's just not true. The crowd has booed McNabb, but a lot of times that's just out of frustration for the entire offense. They've never booed him in starting introductions. The whole "Eagles fans vs. McNabb" thing is merely a fabrication. Yes, there are those who are against McNabb and think he's nothing but a choker, but the majority of the fan base still stands behind him.
    phillyfan412
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:19 PM, 08/18/2009
    phillyfan412, I concure.
    Richard Saunders
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:38 PM, 08/18/2009
    mainlinephan-you are correct. Arrogant Lurie, Banner and Reid have alienated at least 50% of the fan base unnecessarily. Ike Reese is correct, some of them will never be back. I'm one of them until Vick, Reid, Banner and Lurie are long gone.
    Dr. Michael
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:39 PM, 08/18/2009
    atp2007 is sooooo right
    RationAl
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:44 PM, 08/18/2009
    Uh,'scuse me Dr.Michael, but Vick is still on the team. Why are you still here?
    Richard Saunders
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:45 PM, 08/18/2009
    Agree with you BDAWK!! We miss you!!
    cote32
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:46 PM, 08/18/2009
    phillyfan412 - in 2003 the Eagles lost a horrible game to the Patriots at home in week 2 and some fans were chanting for Feeley at the end of that game. I clearly remember the "we want A.J." chants. But yeah, NO ONE has ever chanted for Kolb or Koy Detmer!
    ChazzLCamino
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:46 PM, 08/18/2009
    Thank you for ignoring the Minnesota story. Seriously.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:00 PM, 08/18/2009
    message to big red:draft an afro american QB next time..
    jack russell
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:16 PM, 08/18/2009
    I wonder how long it will take Vick to scope out a crip in North or West Philly with a sound proof basement so that he can start up another dog fighting ring. He could run a good business in those neighborhoods. That could really supplement the income of his one year contract in case things don't work out on the field. That way he could stick with what he's really good at. Maybe he could even get Ray Emery from the Flyers to room with him. They'd make a cute couple.
    Stinger
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:24 PM, 08/18/2009
    SHEIL you are the best and in such a short time. i thank you from the bottom of my heart for not reporting on mr. unretirement. thank you. thank you. thank you...........JRV
    JACK V
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:26 PM, 08/18/2009
    Either McNabb or Vick will be in a purple uniform next year when Favre retires for the 4th time. Either one is an ideal QB for the Andy Reidesque West Coast offence they run up there and either one fo them will by the end of the year guarentee the Eagles at a minimum a 2nd round draft pick (I bet a 2nd and 4th or 5th). We all saw this year how much the Eagles like the extra draft picks.
    Atlas
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:28 PM, 08/18/2009
    you idiots who always say the team should be loyal to old players and over pay them are dillusional... stupid people in philly
    maximus
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:37 PM, 08/18/2009
    Leave Dr Michael alone. If he wants to stay let him stay..."want a bone little doggy...come on give us your paw..hold on..dont you dare squeeze one out on the carpet..bad doggy..
    PORTACCHIO
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:38 PM, 08/18/2009
    A lot of people definitely wanted Garcia over McNabb
    JimG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:40 PM, 08/18/2009
    S*CK IT DAWKINS!....and you can do it too DR MICHAEL
    jaydes
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:43 PM, 08/18/2009
    PHILLY FOR LIFE, YOU ANIT IN THE S*CK IT
    jaydes
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:44 PM, 08/18/2009
    Vick won't be here next year. None of the money is guaranteed for next year and they aren't going to pay him 5 million to play 8-10 snaps per game. The second year part of the deal was just for show to help Vick with his bankruptcy court proceedings. He's trying to avoid having to liquidate all of his assets and if he can show that he stands to make good money in the future, then he can go through a bankruptcy re-organization instead of having to sell everything. He's just trying to buy some time with his creditors and the court.
    JimG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:44 PM, 08/18/2009
    Go away fake doc mike, real eagle fans don't want to be associated with fair weathers like you. You must be a veterinarian by trade although we all know you are a hater by nature. A real Dr. doesn't have time to post on websites all day.
    kcruel
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:44 PM, 08/18/2009
    *THEN S*CK IT
    jaydes
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:46 PM, 08/18/2009
    Let me tell you, that jaydes is a genius!
    RationAl
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:46 PM, 08/18/2009
    CROTCH CHOP TO DR MICHAELS AND ALL EAGLE HATERS
    jaydes
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:47 PM, 08/18/2009
    Dierte Fan!
    jaydes
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:52 PM, 08/18/2009
    RationAl Fan!
    jaydes
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:04 PM, 08/18/2009
    dont think for a second that Banner isnt thinking about getting Vick in shape then trading him for a number one next year.
    maximus
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:05 PM, 08/18/2009
    Dr. Michael, where did you get that 50% number from? Thin air? You know good and well that every seat WILL be filled in The Linc for every home game. Get serious, this mythical exodus of Eagles fans is truly comical at this point.
    mlr710
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:16 PM, 08/18/2009
    Why do all the Vick haters claim to be so much more intelligent than those that are not. The same people will root for athletes from countries that eat dog meet...or make investments in countries that eat dog meat. They're so much more intelligent that they have to use that as an argument to defend their position. I know someone with a confirmed IQ of 175 who is appalled by the choices and acts that Vick made but supports his right to make a living in the NFL. If you're going to boycott the Birds and go away...then don't do so 20 times per day on every article written on this site.
    hope55
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:00 PM, 08/18/2009
    To Hope 55, could not have said it better.LOL. And I love Dawk however it was time to get younger and faster at free safety.
    fla.eagle
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:28 PM, 08/18/2009
    ill root for the dog killer the same way people root for the rapist in LA or that guy that committed obstruction of justice in a murder case over in baltimore. how about the guy that killed someone dui in missouri or even most recently the guy from cleveland who killed someone while dui. try this one out first. he without sin should cast the first stone.
    sanity67
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:29 PM, 08/18/2009
    phillyfan412 - Philly Fans vs. McNabb is a complete fabrication? Are you kidding me? Someone already pointed out in 2003 during the New England game that they were chanting for AJ. In 2007 roughly half the stadium booed McNabb during introductions of the Detroit Lions game (mostly because of what happened the week before against Washington on Monday night). There is more than just a "small vocal minority" of fans that call him a McChoker, McPuke, etc. No one that I can recall has ever dealt with more personal criticism yet won as many games, hold as many team records and appeared and won in as many playoff games except maybe John Elway. As a result of the two Super Bowls he won at the end of his career, everybody seems to forget that he was labeled a choker, made fun of for his horse gums, and he had his own Kevin Kolb situation when the Broncos drafted Tommy Maddox. just because you don't remember it, didn't hear it or weren't aware of it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
    WatchOut4DirtyRollerSk8rs
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:08 PM, 08/18/2009
    HEY DAWKINS: Why did you quit the Eagles?
    mungman
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:08 PM, 08/18/2009
    Dr. Michael - you claim to be "gone" - yet you still haunt us - like a bad taco. Please, be a man of your word.
    mebphila
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:40 PM, 08/18/2009
    The beauty of it is, when the time comes, someone will give up a high draft pick for a phenomenal athlete but an average quarterback at best.
    yoadrian
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:07 PM, 08/18/2009
    Wait until Andy is stuck like DawK was and #5 will be. Every day that passes on one day closer to the Vick era unless he totally blows it off the field. The more interesting question is who blocks for #5 or #7 ? Without Tackles it does not matter who talented and fast DeSean is, Macklin is, Curtis, Hank, Avant, Celek et., al. We will be able to run because Jackson, MJG, and Cole are road graders. We need a RT, #1 and my guess is Kink Dunlap is not bad but the gauge will be against Dwight Freeney on turf in a noisy stadium. We can live with Runyan 1 more year. Banner can save some bucks and send SA home where he belongs.
    oldBird
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:09 PM, 08/18/2009
    Wait until Andy is stuck like DawK was and #5 will be. Every day that passes on one day closer to the Vick era unless he totally blows it off the field. The more interesting question is who blocks for #5 or #7 ? Without Tackles it does not matter how talented and fast DeSean is, Macklin is, Curtis, Hank, Avant, Celek et., al. We will be able to run because Jackson, MJG, and Cole are road graders. We need a RT, #1 and my guess is Kink Dunlap is not bad but the gauge will be against Dwight Freeney on turf in a noisy stadium. We can live with Runyan 1 more year. Banner can save some bucks and send SA home where he belongs.
    oldBird
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:48 PM, 08/18/2009
    run the ball thursday night over 60% of the time and the ol will look good with what we have. who's playing on the defensive line? now there's a problem against manning............JRV
    JACK V
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:39 PM, 08/18/2009
    what the hell is an afro american? Do you mean african american???
    srf466
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:45 AM, 08/19/2009
    Dr. Michael bye bye now! maybe u can team up with yur low life buddies and FIND AN ISLAND TO LIVE ON. adios plz dont return.
    malimal
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:12 PM, 08/20/2009
    "And as for that QB now in Minnesota, well MTC is choosing to formally ignore the story. I have a feeling you might get your fill of it elsewhere." so true Sheil, so True
    FlyEAGLES_GA


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