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Baldinger slams McNabb

POSTED: Tuesday, April 6, 2010, 12:54 PM
Analyst Brian Baldinger recently ripped Donovan McNabb. (Steven M. Falk / Staff Photographer)

It's not unusual to hear an analyst criticize Donovan McNabb.

While many in the national media seem to think that Eagles fans have been too hard on him, most will concede that he has his faults (inaccuracy, never won a Super Bowl, etc.).

But NFL Network's Brian Baldinger recently took aim at McNabb in a way I don't remember seeing during his 11-year career.

Multiple analysts weighed in on the McNabb situation on NFL.com after McNabb was traded to the Redskins. But none had stronger words than Baldinger:

The Eagles should be ecstatic. I view McNabb as a flawed player, and it was never more apparent than in the back-to-back losses to the Cowboys last season. His flaws will never go away. Now, the Eagles get at least two chances to expose the same flaws they've been covering up for 11 years. It works against the Redskins that McNabb is still in the division. Andy Reid can finally stop covering up for one of the most overrated quarterbacks in the history of the game. The Eagles will go to the playoffs. The Redskins will be watching from the golf course.

Ouch.

It's unclear from the article whether his words were part of a TV discussion or whether the site simply was rounding up the opinions of several of its personalities.

Baldinger serves as an analyst for NFL Network and Fox. He played with the Eagles from 1992-93.

Thoughts? Has Reid been covering up for McNabb over the last decade?

Thanks to Bleeding Green Nation for the link.


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Comments  (219)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:54 AM, 04/10/2010
    baldinger must be drinking too much alcohol. how can he say Mcnabb is the most overated quarterback in history of NFL. this man has been voted to 5 pro bowls by his peers. They didnt pick him because they like him. He should have said Andy Reid is the most overated coach in history,because he is more responsible for them not winning the super bowl because he is head of the team and was out coached.
    stanbroc
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:27 AM, 04/10/2010
    Baldinger please stop drinking the Koolaid or whatever has you agreeing with this decision by the GM. Trades like this are bad for fans and you know it. Please tell me that you do not think that a QB designs game plans for all the big Eagle games. Look at the coach or coaches who did not make the necessary adjustments to the schemes of the other team. Philly will be lucky to win 5 games and they will not win a division game this year with a rookie QB. I can only hope we have the Bills, Chiefs, Browns, Lions, and Raiders on the schedule. You must know without an Experienced QB in the NFL you are not going to win. And you better have some smart experinced coachs who know how to design schemes that give the team a chance to win. A Team that loose 3 times to the same team it's clear the coaches are not making adjustments. And I must agree as a coach you should do what you do best, or what works for you, or run your core plays that were sucessful. Reed did this in three games look at the game tape, so why did he run the same plays that did not work the first game? Do you honestly believe that a experienced QB would call plays that require him to scramble 70% of the time. Rookie QB means loosing, or rebuilding season, or wait until next year, which is always bad for a fan.
    Justic4all
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:32 PM, 04/09/2010
    Baldy, what are the flaws?.......Make your case...it's unlike you to be so general, you sound trite and unnecesarily disrespectful of a good man and that's unlike you.
    robinlupe
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:29 AM, 04/08/2010
    Geez, everyone. Relax. McNabb was every bit the player and person who the Eagles drafted. Gave us great moments when he had a supporting cast, and when he didn't. He's a "big play" guy, not a "move the chains" guy. If a defense can take away the big plays, McNabb had problems. That's it. But the real reason that his Eagles didn't win the Super Bowl is the lack of DEFENSIVE playmakers. Right now, we have one, and he gets bashed because he doesn't tackle. Last I checked, the Eagles had leads in the most of the championship games and Super Bowl that they lost, and it was the defense that sagged. Good luck in DC, Donovan. Thanks for the entertainment. Now, let's get some defensive playmakers and enjoy the development of a young, move the chains kind of QB. By the way, the Raiders beat the Eagles in the SB. They had a big play QB who was more inaccurate than McNabb on the short stuff. His name was Jim Plunkett. But the Raiders had multiple playmakers on defense.
    Spaceman Eddie
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:44 AM, 04/08/2010
    Baldinger is wrong NO QUESTION. But at least he has been consistently saying this all along...Oh wait no he never said anything close to this until McNabb left town!! Typical media fraud
    elbc
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:51 AM, 04/08/2010
    tightmadness, and Holmgren, as president of the Browns, choose to sign Jake Delhomme rather than trade for McNabb.
    Mottz
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:21 AM, 04/08/2010
    wondo40, you are right. Randall was a "flawed" QB until he left head coach Kotite and o-linemen Baldinger. I think McNabb has covered up the Eagles flaw in drafting (with the exception of D-Jax) poor receivers and not having a balanced offense. I doubt Kolb will make the plays necessary to cover upthis flaw in the Eagles offense. By the way, Shanahan is a better head coach than Reid. Do the names Steve Young and Elway ring a bell? By the way, Shanahan called their plays. Reiddidn't call Favre's plays, Holmgren did.
    tightmadness
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:08 AM, 04/08/2010
    Brian who?..This guy is nothing more than a loudmouth. I look at what McNabb has done over his career in the game compared to Baldinger who mainly was on a Cowboys team. I'll take McNabb's stats over a loudmouth analyst anyday. When it's all said and done, which one you think is going into the Hall? Shut the Hell up Baldinger!..Guy couldn't even start for anyone he played for.
    Warpath85nIraq
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:24 AM, 04/08/2010
    I like it Baldy!!!! Hope you are right!
    mmmike22
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:57 PM, 04/07/2010
    Baldinger was on 610wip with midday guys. How does philly.com not know this? He went into a lot more detail as to why. Perhaps its available on podcast
    Four4Four
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:19 PM, 04/07/2010
    Baldinger does have agenda. To make sure he has a job. Making controversial statements that keep people talking is how it is done. Example: Howard Eskin. Whether that is his true opinion or not I don't know. But there have been way more overhyped QB in the league.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:05 PM, 04/07/2010
    Wow, so I guess Baldy is prejudiced too.
    bigphillydad
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:50 PM, 04/07/2010
    Two years agp, Baldy was doing an eagles game. They had the ball down inside the five. He said that was the perfect spot to run a "fade" play, but McNabb can't throw the face. Sure enough, they tried the fade and McNabb threw it over Celek out of the end zone. McNabb has a strong arm, but he never learned how to finesse a pass in 11 years. Every ball has to be thrown through a wall.
    mike l
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:21 PM, 04/07/2010
    PhilC, I won't attempt to stoop to your low level anymore, but you are the one who constantly talks about "intelligence" and uses racist code words, and talks about "liberals' as if that is a dirty word. I consistently try to have intelligent discussions on this board, and I respect exchanges with those who have a little perspective and don't just shoot from the hip, or from an embarrassing agenda. In my opinion, anybody who is still trying to piggyback on Rush Limbaugh's remarks is in need of help. I'd rather keep it to a football discussion, but a lot of the McNabb argument has featured unfortunate racial thinking on the part of both blacks and whites. For what it's worth, I am white, and take pride in being open-minded, articulate and fair, whether my position is popular or not.
    MG44
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:34 PM, 04/07/2010
    MG44.. You and your idol Mc Nabb are both idiots. Wunderlich is spelled both ways, and when you have no answer, you scream racism. My Friend, reverse racism kept Mc Nabb here as long as he was. If he was white he would have been long gone. Only Luries idiotic desire to have the next black QB win the super bowl kept him here. Well, you and seed got your wish, he is now being coached by the guy who got Elway his two rings. But, not happening here, Elway had a brain and could actually hit his recievers.
    Phil Checchia
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:27 PM, 04/07/2010
    More faults he missed...Can't keep track of the play clock when the game is on the line in the 4th i.e. terrible clock managment; when scrambling - he runs out of bounds for a loss instead of throwing the ball away. (Terrible field managament or choke under pressure). Can't make the obvious audible call at the line; the has no touch on his throws; absolutely not a leader/field general (all that joking and nothing is serious) am I missing anything?
    Atlas
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:01 PM, 04/07/2010
    Since Tom Heckert left the Eagles for the Cleveland Browns its very telling that he and the Browns did not make a trade bid for McNabb. Early on they (Browns) had interest in Kolb but disappeared from the scene when they learned only McNabb or Vick were available. Heckert was well connected with the Eagles and he would NOT touch McNabb. Instead he got another veteran QB in Delhome. He apparently would rather have Delhome. The same thing may also be true with former Eagles assistant coaches Spagnola and Childress as neither seemed to want McNabb. There must have been serious flaws in McNabb's game as Baldinger said.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:29 PM, 04/07/2010
    The Eagles get two 2nd round picks from Redskins. The one in the trade and the one that the Redskins won,t have. Thats two players. Think about it.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:07 PM, 04/07/2010
    "I stopped being an Eagles fan immediately upon the arrival of Reid and McNabb. So many ppl couldn't understand why...now you all know why." Because the 3 decades before those two arrived were just so successful! Is that it?
    sbdons1982
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:18 PM, 04/07/2010
    stay classy baldy. same guy who bemoaned the fact that reid never runs the ball to support mcnabb. next he will have a full time show on 610.
    theforty
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:18 PM, 04/07/2010
    stay classy baldy. same guy who bemoaned the fact that reid never runs the ball to support mcnabb. next he will have a full time show on 610.
    theforty
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:14 PM, 04/07/2010
    Soulman- on top of that, McNabb lost to the Raiders, that powerhouse of.... well, nothing, really.
    verve
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:54 PM, 04/07/2010
    McNabb's career up to this point is almost identical to Elway's. Yes, Elway made 2 more SBs by age 33 but he also was playing the 1980s AFC which was so weak that it did not win a single SB from 1983 Raiders to the 1997 Broncos. If Elway had of been in the NFC he never would have even made the SB until 97 and Terrell Davis. Before TD, Elway was the lowest rated QB in SB history. It is highly doubtful Kolb ever duplicates McNabb's career. The Eagles only hope is to build up the rest of the team better.
    sbdons1982
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:47 PM, 04/07/2010
    I'm ecstatis for McNabb to get away from the moronic fan-base bent on hating the guy. This city reeks of ignorance, and Kolb will lead us NOWHERE. Irrelevance.....Eagles Football 2010 - 2015.....prepare for the losing to become the "gold" standard.
    philly449
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:43 PM, 04/07/2010
    Ball-slinger! What a complete Donkeyhole!!!! Chump and total has-been to the core. Who the hell cares what YOU think!!!
    philly449
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:35 PM, 04/07/2010
    Baldinger was a scrub's scrub. He wishes he had 1/10th the talent of McNabb. It is very disingenuous to point to 2 games without the Center and where we couldn't run the ball. How well did the defense play in those games? As for Kolb, he has played 2 good teams and has 5 INTs in those games. His Ty Detmer-sized arm is a pick 6 waiting to happen on every deep out because he simply doesn't have the muscle to make that pass. Get ready for years without playoffs.
    sbdons1982
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:13 PM, 04/07/2010
    McNabb is a borderline HOF qb that had flaws when he got here and still has them but not as much as before. We know he isnt a pure west coast qb but andy reid didnt do the things to help the team and McNab b. It was always hand the ball to McNabb and make him win the game not use a little running game and play action. In washington shanahan will run the ball and set mcnabb up more with play action. The redskins have holes but I think Donovan and Shanahan will add at least 5 more wins with the defense they already have. The eagles are rebuilding which is fine but Keven Kolb is more for two years than this year just Aaron Rodgers was for the Pack.
    skills
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 1:04 PM, 04/07/2010
    Looks like Baldinger wants some attention.
    birdseed
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:56 PM, 04/07/2010
    I think the true definition of Mcnabb as a QB is somewhere between what Baldinger believes and what the national media believes. Mcnabb has his flaws but our defense has many flaws. I wouldn't be so quick to think this is an edge for the Eagles until they improve that defense. I'm not very high on how our defense will do based on our current roster.
    ynot716
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:42 PM, 04/07/2010
    Baldinger doesn't know anything about QB's if he thinks McNabb is flawed. They all have their limitations but McNabb can run as well as through and that helped cover up the Eagles flaws on their O-line. Never mind that their defense couldn't stop anyone from converting on short yardage situations, and there's no way McNabb or anyone could overcome that. The Eagles as a team weren't good enough to beat the Cowboys, but giving away McNabb to a division rival will turn out to be a really STUPID move.
    ricky
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:22 PM, 04/07/2010
    I agree with Baldinger to a point. I think "most overrated QB in the history of the game" is a little over the top, but I agree that McNabb is a flawed QB. He can still win you a lot of games, but covering up/managing those flaws I think was getting too expensive for the Eagles brass and thus they made a move so they can potentially set up their defense and sure up their O-Line through the draft. They just can't afford to miss on more than 50% of their picks this year. One thing is definitely for sure, the Players, coaching staff and FO is behind Kolb.
    WatchOut4DirtyRollerSk8rs
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:33 AM, 04/07/2010
    I wonder where Lonewolf was when we played in the Superbowl. Were you in your little sandbox with a wet diaper crying about the quarterback you didn't want to watch? You're like an LA fan...You should move there and start crying some more. Brian Baldinger's stats in his respective position, compared to McNabb's. Nuff said. Baldinger- HOT BAG OF AIR.
    PG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:25 AM, 04/07/2010
    brian baldinger is an idiot. how can any self respecting football fan actually say that mcnabb is not the best qb in franchise history. Please dont tell me ron jaworski was, because then I will know youre on drugs baldinger. sounds like youre a bit jealous, go back to your below average commentating and keep your dumb comments to yourself.
    ShaneOO
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:24 AM, 04/07/2010
    wondo40 Stupid comment. You do not have to have been a great player to analyze players. Bill Parcells can't coach because he was not an NFL star? Roger Ebert can't review movies because he wasn't a great actor? Agree or disagree with baldinger but the fact that he was a journeyman doesn't mean he can't have an informed opinion
    mcat13
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:04 AM, 04/07/2010
    Money. Money. Money. That is why Mcnabb is gone. I'm no great fan of McNabb, but all things being equal, he is probably still better than Kolb at this point.
    Einstein
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:54 AM, 04/07/2010
    I vote for lonelywolfie as the most overrated poster in Philly.com history. He posts comments but doesn't have the guts to answer questions when he clearly contradicts himself. No guts Lonewolf...
    Eilex826
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:53 AM, 04/07/2010
    McNabb will be a hall of famer. I wouldn't know of Brian Baldinger's existence if not for a dinky local station called comcast sportsnet. Enough said...
    GoPhils09
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:29 AM, 04/07/2010
    I used to think Baldy knew what he was talking about, when it came to the NFL. After this, I feel he has no credibility. It's O.K. to criticize McNabb, but he went overboard. Where was this kind criticism before? His remarks were always balanced, until now. I guess I was wrong about how much he knows or how honest he really is.
    duke56
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:24 AM, 04/07/2010
    yikes... that seemed unnecessary.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:20 AM, 04/07/2010
    Time will tell, Baldy.
    misterhman
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:16 AM, 04/07/2010
    Baldinger always made a lot of sense to me when he analyzed games, I am in complete agreement with him on 5 needless to say.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:05 AM, 04/07/2010
    "Kelly - 9-8, with 4 AFC titles, 0 SB...McNabb 9-7 w/ 1 title and 5 NFC title games, 0 bowls. Very similar" How this is similar i don't know but u are right, we aren't going to agree. Thanks for the civility though. Perhaps i inferred a dismissive tone on Moon and i apologize. You seem to be not real impressed with 9 pro bowls 49,000+ passing yards and 291 TD's and a train load of 4th quarter comebacks and game winning drives. Yes, Kelly had the hurry up but McNabb had Reid who passed as much as run-shoot offense. Two good seasons and he is in, HOF cant keep him out based on Fouts being in. Good day
    Mottz
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:55 AM, 04/07/2010
    Baldy right on the money again.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:52 AM, 04/07/2010
    Mottz, We're not going to agree, but read my post again on Kelly...I absolutely give him credit for getting to the SB 4 times, and no, I appreciated Moon as well...what were you reading? While stylistically, I compare McNabb most with Elway and Young (and he may never attain their career levels), in terms of results (winning), he and Kelly are quite similar. Career numbers (reg season) - Kelly: 101-59 (10th all-time wins)...McNabb 92-49...with 10 wins, McNabb surpasses him, and if he only goes 9-10, they have the same exact record. Playoffs: Kelly - 9-8, with 4 AFC titles, 0 SB...McNabb 9-7 w/ 1 title and 5 NFC title games, 0 bowls. Very similar. My eyes also tell me that McNabb had more ways to beat you and did not have the offensive personnel and new wrinkle (hurry-up) that Kelly took advantage of. Verdict: both HOF-ers if not at the level of Montana, Unitas and Elway...I compare McNabb favorably to him.
    MG44
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:33 AM, 04/07/2010
    MG44, i only bought Young up cause they have similar careers in terms of #'s. Kelly WON 4 AFC Championships and you don't weigh that into your consideration? McNabb won 1. If you give no credit for that i just think that's wrong. Kelly and McNabb's resume's are not that similar. You may prefer McNabb over Moon but wow you just dismissed a terrific career of Moon's. If neither won a championship and lay the career's side by side in boggles the mind that one thinks McNabb was a better QB.
    Mottz
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:28 AM, 04/07/2010
    Did you ever notice that the Eagles have timeouts left at the end of the half or at the end of the game when another QB is in. Kolb won't make the one or two Sports Center Highlight plays that McNabb makes each game but he will have a flow that McNabb never could establish with the offense.
    Burbs Bound
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:23 AM, 04/07/2010
    wolfkiller, why? Its a real assessment of McNabb's career. Hasn't done enough in career so far to get into HOF but he has some years left and could possibly do that. That's all. His time here has come and gone. Good run but the canonization of him is a lot overblown. Who logs in just to personally attack another poster and I am the PSYCHO?
    Mottz
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:19 AM, 04/07/2010
    Mottz (This is actually a cut above the usual exchanges on these blogs), I did not bring Young into the conversation, and would also place him ahead of DM. I give credit to Kelly for getting to the SB 4 times (at least as much I do Donovan for getting to 5 NFC title games): Kelly is 9-8 in the playoffs; McNabb 9-7. Kelly: .631 win%, McNabb's is .650-plus to this point. Although different styles and strengths, a fairly similar body of work. I prefer McNabb, and I prefer him as an overall qb to Moon (picture-perfect passer with huge totals but no great team accomplishments)and also Fouts.
    MG44
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:18 AM, 04/07/2010
    The truth always hurts about a star athlete. If a qualified eye analyses McNabb's skills they would come to the same conclusion. He's been like so many athletes who were bigger as a youngster and got away w/ strength and raw talent. In college he was a scrambler w/ a strong arm and didn't need to be refined. Got to the pros and given stater's money and thrown in to a short pass oriented offense. His scrambling continued to serve well. As time went on and his physical assets got older and the defenses got wiser to his skills he failed to improve/adjust. Playing the same teams every yr. twice you can see how the def. is wise to him.......he didn't get any better and now his legs are not the same. Since he never developed proper passing technique he is still a poor accuracy qb and cannot run as well. Forget reading defenses and making audibles. He's average now at best. Goodbye, good luck, auvoir, ciao!!!
    stoneman
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:54 AM, 04/07/2010
    I didnt give one single statistic, I gave 4 statistics for a few qb'S who didnt win a superbowl but are in the HOF. If you feel that the voters look at win% as the most important factor that is fine. My opinion is that they look at the entire body of work against your peers in that position. Today McNabb doesnt add up. 3 years from now I would bet his #'s are even or better than Fouts and McNabb was more successful resume in terms of win's/losses and playoff history. If he doesnt get in at that point I think its an outrage
    Mottz
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:48 AM, 04/07/2010
    MG44. That is astounding. Fouts is the nearest comparison I found. Ahead of Kelly and Moon? You cant be serious? Kelly WON 4 AFC Championships and Moon's career was FAR more productive. You gravitate to whatever stats make you feel better in defending McNabb but the overall body of work is what matters. If McNabb's career ended today there isn't any way he would be in HOF. You just have to look. Another very productive 2-3 years and that story could change. DO you think he has had a better career than Steve Young? Statistically a near dead heat...oh that's right, Young won that thing called a SUPERBOWL!!!
    Mottz
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:30 AM, 04/07/2010
    Mottz, There's no single statistical basis in which to compare qb's. I have said most of this past season that McNabb is on a Hall of Fame track. Looking at fairly recent qbs (without a SB win) who are in the Hall, I'd put McNabb behind Marino and Tarkenton, but ahead of Fouts, Kelly and Moon. I tend to gravitate toward career wins, w-l%, and also what my eyes tell me. "5" has already crafted a HOF career.
    MG44
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:28 AM, 04/07/2010
    I don't mind Baldinger making those comments, but he should explain what he thinks those flaws are. A lot of pedestrian quarterbacks have won the Superbowl, usually because they had a great defense, so I think McNabb is good enough to win a Superbowl.
    ej610
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:00 AM, 04/07/2010
    What SPECIFICALLY did Baldy nail??? WHAT ARE THE FLAWS; seems that important piece of info was ommitted..time will tell...tick, tock..
    RoastedBird
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:10 AM, 04/07/2010
    wondo40-'nuf said, bingo!
    tellitso
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:21 AM, 04/07/2010
    SINCE WHEN DID MAKING THE NFC CHAMPIONSHIP 5 times out of 11 not enough for a team's owner? Unless you are the SF 49ers or the Dallas Cowboys, any logicial owner, team president, and team coach would have kept McNabb. PHILLY HAS ONLY WON ONE SUPERBOWL. WHY DO WE THINK WE DESERVE SO MANY? We should be grateful for what we had with McNabb and you can guarantee the the Eagles won't make it to another NFC Championship game as long as Banner and Lurie are at the top. Mr. Ruthless and Mr. Cheap.
    highschoolallamerican
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:18 AM, 04/07/2010
    BALDINGER IS A BITTER MAN AND HIS JOB IS TO BE EASILY TAKEN BY SOMEONE WHO MADE THE PRO BOWL AT LEAST ONCE.
    highschoolallamerican
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:28 PM, 04/06/2010
    Maybe this analyst can cover 5's hall of fame induction ceremony. That's closest he'll come to being there. Don't know his number, didn't know what position he played...talk about an impact player.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:14 PM, 04/06/2010
    Nice touch, Baldinger. You're an idiot with a mic, so shine on and God speed. But in all this dancing on Donovan's grave (so to speak), all I ask is an even hand if/when Kolb goes 8-8, 7-9 or 6-10 this coming year. Please keep it fair & balanced and cry for Kolb's swift departure out of town. Disregard the other positions and players and their importance to TEAM play, and place the blame for all losses squarely on the back of Kolb. That's all I ask. For many of you reading and posting here, to do anything less hypocrisy at its highest level.
    phillykid407
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:03 PM, 04/06/2010
    Right on, Baldy; thanks for telling it like it is! With sending Donnie Mac south on 1-95, the Eagles fans are now in for a real treat (yeah even the knuckleheads here still crying over McNabb's loss), and also Andy Reid has now been set free (but at the same time has no excuses left!). The treat that the Eagles fans will now witness starting this coming year is how the West Coast offense is truly supposed to efficiently operate: ie. with an ACCURATE QB who takes quick 3-step drops, and hits his receivers in stride! Sounds like McNabb? No, did not think so! No more jitterbugging behind the line for 8-10 seconds waiting for someone to get open 60 yards downfield. Kolb is well-trained in , and his strengths are tailor made for Reid's WC offense, and undoubtedly Reid is breathing a huge sigh of relief that he no longer has to make excuses for-and accomodations in his offense- for McNabb any longer. We will now consistently week-in/week out see Reid's true offense for probably the first time. Yes, Reid is now on the hook with Kolb with McNabb gone, but it is a safe bet with the offensive skill set that the Eagles now have, plus that of Kolb himself, and his training. Forget McNabb; if the Eagles get the defense straightened out with some good ball-hawking playmakers in the draft, they'll be fine.
    bust6711
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:01 PM, 04/06/2010
    Glad to see there's one person outside Piladelphia who see Donovan for what he is. He covered his flaws with his athleticism all these years. Now that athleticism is gone, all he has left is his flaws. Did he give us the greatest 11 years in Eagles history? Off the top of my head, I'd say 1960 was better than any of the past 11 years. Same goes for a few years in the late-40's. McNabb will never understand us Philadelphia sports fans the way Dawk, Trot, JB, and Seth Joyner did. That's his biggest flaw of all.
    jimmyeagles
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:00 PM, 04/06/2010
    McNabb gave it all he had, and it wasn't enough. Most overrated of all time. No, that would be one Mike Vick, who the Eagles should trade off for a bag of footballs. Regardless, Kolb is the guy, and I'm an Eagles fan first, so I'm cheering for Kolb now. Plain and simple. Time to move on from McNabb people, it's in the past now. Doesn't matter what Baldy or anyone else says now.
    cnova000
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:59 PM, 04/06/2010
    Very courageous comment from Baldinger..had nothing to say while McNabb was an Eagle..waits until he is traded and everyone is piling on to say his piece. Below average player now is an expert, what a fraud.
    djfromphilly
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:58 PM, 04/06/2010
    Yeadon75 @ 4:54pm: THANK YOU. Word for word...I second those sentiments. Finally, some sense on this forum.
    phillykid407
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:56 PM, 04/06/2010
    Someone help me, is brian baldinger a hall of famer, did he play for more than the two years in philly and what did he do any pro bowls? HELP
    VegasEagleFan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:53 PM, 04/06/2010
    Lonewolf10, thanks cause your post should just about do it for the McNabb talk, now i can go to bed. LOL
    Mottz
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:50 PM, 04/06/2010
    rush is an idiot....obama..my man
    Lonewolf10
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:44 PM, 04/06/2010
    raool, how so? This is not the same hysteria Iverson supporters had? Please keep in mind i am referring to on the field, not off. Never had surronding cast, McNabb never had receivers. The fans ran him out of town and didnt appreciate him, ditto McNabb. He is gonna comeback and haunt the sixers, ditto McNabb. How is this different
    Mottz
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:40 PM, 04/06/2010
    uhm no Mottz, not the same story as Iverson. Other than skin color and the fact that they both played professional sports in Philadelphia, there's nothing the same about the stories.
    raoool
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:37 PM, 04/06/2010
    Yeeahhhh...for all you McFans, he didn't win a superbowl. Period. He doesn't have what Brees has, he doesn't have what the young Crosby has, and he doesn't have anything that would want me to keep him here. I said it 7 years ago and my opinion hasn't changed. Good riddens. Next should be andy reed....oh that's right, they measure him on his cheese-steak eating capabilities.
    aussieflyer
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:35 PM, 04/06/2010
    so after seeing the majority response do I dare ask was RUSH Right?
    slapback
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:33 PM, 04/06/2010
    been tellin people that same thing...the eagles will know how to play against mcnabb and that only hurts the redskins
    Anything_Philly_is4me
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:31 PM, 04/06/2010
    Would you rather have Trent Dilfer and a Superbowl or Donovan McNabb and no SB. Eli Manning and a SB or McNabb and no SB? SB's define careers for the most part. It defines teams for sure. I dont like it anymore than anyone else but he has a ring, McNabb doesnt. Dilfer did was was required of him. How did Jason Campbell make out with all those great tall receivers? Imagine a QB reunion and every QB who ever lived attended. Dilfer would be introduced as "Trent Dilfer, Superbowl Champion". How would you like McNabb introduced? What if an alien came down, knew nothing of football and was standing next to McNabb and Dilfer...what do u think it would notice, the gigantic shiny superbowl ring on Dilfer's finger or or McNabb's low interception total?
    Mottz
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:16 PM, 04/06/2010
    "Over-rated", says Baldinger. McNabb=Hall of Famer. Baldinger who?
    HTownInTheHouse
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:15 PM, 04/06/2010
    Baldy hits the mark----sees all the film with Ray Didi over at NFL Films in NJ and just tells it like it is--- that which he sees.
    Romus
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:13 PM, 04/06/2010
    mcnabb will not throw to slobs in washington they have 4 tall receivers 6'5 6'4 6'4 and 6'2 who are young (3rd and 2nd yr)with talent and speed. the key again is their o-line if that can be shored up(a big if)they will run the ball zone and power blocking and hit deep downfield passes that is their plan..will it work? time will tell. bald-dinger is just another idiot 6th string former lineman of the nfl who could not block anyone or anything. teams win SB trent dilfer has one I guess he was a great qb right?
    only 9
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:05 PM, 04/06/2010
    Lets compare stats from 2 HOF'ers who never won a SB. Marino-59.4 completion %, 61,631 passing yards, 420 TD's and 252 int. McNabb cant touch those #'s. Dan Fouts-58.8 completion %, 43,040 passing yards, 254 TD's and 242 int. McNabb is 59.0 completion %, 32,873 passing yards, 216 TD's and 100 Int. Now stats are like bikini's, the show a lot but they dont show everything. You might think McNabb can come close to Fouts #'s HOWEVER Fouts has 24 4th quarter comebacks, 26 game winning drives and led the league in passing 4 times. Fouts did all that in 181 games, McNabb has 148 games played. He has a lot of work to do to match that career.
    Mottz
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:58 PM, 04/06/2010
    Baldinger likes to hear himself talk. I guess he figures if he keeps talking, someone nationally will notice him. We get it, McNabb sucks but does that mean his replacement will be better. Should they get rid of NcNabb and put in a nobody because you don't like McNabb?
    Phillies2008WSChamps
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:57 PM, 04/06/2010
    Turns out that Rush Limbaugh, a few years back, was probably correct. This time Brian Baldinger lashes out and it will be accepted because of who he is, and who Rush is. When someone mention's Rush Limbaugh, a lot of people get upset just hearing his name. When someone mentions Brian Baldinger, they think of an ex-Eagle who was a good but not great lineman. Brian Baldinger has his opinion of McNabb just like everyone else does. I truly agree with Brian, however, and it is true, that in the 5 NFC appearances, the Eagles could have gone to the Super Bowl at least 3 of those times. The Eagles were committed to surrounding Donovan with good ball players. Brian didn't go as far as Rush did saying that he's being hyped because he's a black QB, but Brian did state that McNabb is one of the most overrated quarterbacks in the league. As far as being a black QB, that's another subject. Black QB's in the NFL are present as we all know, and McNabb, probably the best one, has never won a Super Bowl, similar to the rest of the black QB's in the league. It's not that they can't, it probably will come, but white QB's seem to have a better sense of managing a game on the field. Joe Montana, Terry Bradshaw, Roger Staubach, John Elway, Tom Brady were and are all great QB's. McNabb is a good QB, but not a great QB. If he were in their classe, he'd already have at least 2 Super Bowl victory's to his resume.
    thomasg
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:48 PM, 04/06/2010
    This is the same story as Allen Iverson. It has to be the same outrage people now about trading McNabb as when Iverson was traded. OMG how could the sixers do this, the fans dont appreciate him, he was never surrounded by talent etc etc etc. Well he was surrounded by talent in Denver and they couldnt wait to get him out of there, couldnt play for a terrible Detroit team, couldnt play for a terrible Memphis team. Where did all those Iverson fans go? I never saw any apology. He was great, he was done and the sixers did the right thing. Its the exact same thing with McNabb.
    Mottz
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:38 PM, 04/06/2010
    Leegles...REALLY? Among the best of all time on any team? Just in the NFL right now...not in any particular order, Brady, Brees, P Manning, Rivers, Eli Manning (he has a ring no matter what you say, the just retired Kurt Warner, Brett Favre and that is excluding young QB's who have enormous potential but have yet to develop like Sanchez and Matt Ryan. Please. Top Eagle QB, absolutely. Top all time, not even close. He isn't even gonna make the hall of fame. Never won a SB and while his stats measure up in Eagle lore they do not overall. Win at least on SB before you can make that statement.
    Mottz
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:24 PM, 04/06/2010
    Its baseball season - I can wait until Sept and see what happens when Kolb & McNabb actually play some games.
    tnphil
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:09 PM, 04/06/2010
    We will see if it its Andy or McNabb...........
    JL68
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:04 PM, 04/06/2010
    BALDINGER SAID IT ALL. I AGREE WITH EVERY WORD. BTW, RUSH LIMBAUGH SAID IT ALL A FEW YEARS BACK.
    garcia7
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:04 PM, 04/06/2010
    BALDINGER SAID IT ALL. I AGREE WITH EVERY WORD. BTW, RUSH LIMBAUGH SAID IT ALL A FEW YEARS BACK.
    garcia7
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:45 PM, 04/06/2010
    Kolb better be good.
    bd73
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:53 PM, 04/06/2010
    This coming from a second rate career backup offensive lineman and an even worse anlayst. I guess he was too busy taking speech lessons while a real footbll player like McNabb was setting Eagles records.
    JLH
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:34 PM, 04/06/2010
    Baldinger should put his opinions right next to HIS Super Bowl championship trophy. Just another idiot with a microphone. Glad I'm out of radio range. Hey wiff, my garbageman thinks you're an idiot. His opinion has as much relevance.
    tpizza
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:33 PM, 04/06/2010
    Darn Baldy! Don't beat around the bush.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:27 PM, 04/06/2010
    It's all about championships, isn't it? The Eagles, in honoring the late Tom Brookshier, could have a nice 50th anniversary ceremony this year, honoring the last Eagle team to win an NFL Championship. Think they will do it, folks? The Phils, 76ers, and Flyers have all done this stuff.
    76erfn
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:20 PM, 04/06/2010
    Bill, your candor is refreshing, but respecting McNabb and his career isn't being politically correct. Being critical of McNabb doesn't mean one is honest, either. A number of media types either have personal issues with McNabb, or they side with the Eagles. Notice any media types who now rip McNabb, who also said that Dawkins wouldn't be missed and wasn't a leader?
    76erfn
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:10 PM, 04/06/2010
    McNabb has a fatal flaw and you can look it up: he gets the "yips." This is why he kills worms and makes a bad decision on whether to run or throw. He gets too excited, this, as any coach knows,will cause a pitcher or quarterback, heck any fielder in baseball, to have a poor release point, usually late. In McNabb's case, he released late under pressure and early in games. That won't change in Washington .
    hr4phils
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:00 PM, 04/06/2010
    Get 'em, Baldie. Hearing Baldinger on the radio, I have come to respect his point of view.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:47 PM, 04/06/2010
    BALDINGER HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD !!!
    BIGWILLIE3367
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:14 PM, 04/06/2010
    brotherman1,baldinger what have you wow,we sent you packing years ago shut up.
    brotherman1
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:10 PM, 04/06/2010
    WIP is on a McNabb hate campaign; trash the former QB, "oh, here's Kevin Kolb joining us". Downplay all of McNabb's achievements, then "Joining us now on the phone, Andy Reid". They are doing to McNabb was Screaming A did to Iverson. The morning show, in particular, is so thin-skinned about the draft-booing incident. They expect athletes to handle criticism, but can't handle any themselves. You now wonder why, in 27 years, this town has 1 world championship??
    76erfn
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:59 PM, 04/06/2010
    Looking forward to seeing some timing patterns that hit a receiver in stride and don't bounce. AKA west coast offense.
    drenner
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:55 PM, 04/06/2010
    I think both deserve blame. The bigger the game the less Mac came through. By the same token Big Andy never changed anything when it was obvious Mac didn't have it that day. Of course there is also the no big time receiver, no running game, the Eagles indifference toward certain veterans (Dawk, Runyan, TO-oh wait). But that is probably the nasty business side.
    Phils_World_Champs
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:52 PM, 04/06/2010
    brotherman1,baldinger what have you won shut up,u was ran out of philly lot of years ago.
    brotherman1
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:48 PM, 04/06/2010
    So Wondo40, because Baldinger wasn't a great football player, I guess he doesn't have eyes and can't make valid opinions? Mcnabb was a good QB for the Eagles, but everyone knows that he was never accurate enough to win the big game. How many big games did we see him miss wide open WRs for big plays? Can he throw the deep ball and read defenses well? Definitely. But, he is accuracy was bad and you will rarely win a Super Bowl with bad accuracy. That's his biggest flaw.
    eaglegrn21
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:45 PM, 04/06/2010
    I guess Baldy was listening to WIP as well. All of this talk is for the birds. We will see what happens when the season begins. Hope this does not blow up in the Eagles' faces, but the is Philly so we know it will.
    Bitemebiscuits
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:17 PM, 04/06/2010
    I'm very disappointed in Baldinger. How many QBs are better than McNabb? 5? 10? That's still pretty elite company. His long term stats are virtually HOF but few mention that Knock him for his weaknesses, but as McNabb is not regarded particularly highly, I don't think, "overrated" is a way overreaction by Baldinger. I mean, do people talk about him like he's Marino or something, a HOFer despite not ring? Not many. We know he's not Marino or Manning or Brees or Brady. So how is he overrated? Baldy is kicking a guy when he's down, and he's certainly out there with his opinion. Marino, Moon, Eli Manning, Keith Brooking don't agree. Baldy knows better?
    Bill in Md.
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:08 PM, 04/06/2010
    Baldinger is referring to the many open receivers McNabb missed because he failed to make the correct read or started running around prematurely. Someone in the know also said about the same thing. Of course Reid would cover up and protect his QB rather than tell the truth and throw him under the bus.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:01 PM, 04/06/2010
    Ah, the convenient trashing of McNabb when he is no longer around to serve someone's interest. McNabb is not as nimble or evasive as he was earlier in his career, but his flaws then are his flaws now. The team around him changed. The Eagles no longer have a top defense, or a top O-line, but they are determined to see Kolb succeed; their massive egos are on the line. It's about time they win a Super Bowl.
    76erfn
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:54 PM, 04/06/2010
    Lonewolf and all the others McNabb haters: I suppose Donovan has been the worst QB in franchise history because he didn't win a superbowl. Interesting that he surpassed many of Jaworski's records, who also failed to win a superbowl. But yet Jaws is revered in Philly much like Dick Vermeil, who never won a Superbowl in Philly. In fact, he was so damaged by Philly fans he had to step away, resurface in another city and win a Superbowl. Guess Bills and Dolphins and Chiefs fans feel the same way about Kelley and Marino and Montana. There's just something really wrong about all of the anti-McNabb sentiments. Can't wait until Philly fans start getting Ryan Howard because he strikes out too much! I truly enjoyed McNabb's years and was frustrated by the 1 hoppers, etc. BUT, in what is hailed as the ulitmate team game, Philly un-faithful only see 1 person at fault. Remember when the defense used to score TDs and block kicks and help the offense? The last 2 seasons, they struggled against everybody. The lost to the Cardinals, well donovan rallied them from a huge deficit only to watch the defense give it up in 5 mins. But enough of rehashing the past. As Andy said, we've got to move forward, and so shall I.
    yeadon75
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:50 PM, 04/06/2010
    Baldinger is an idiot.
    Bleue
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:37 PM, 04/06/2010
    Birdman...McNabb is a big play QB, but not real good at leading the team on extended drives. Andy took his changes with the bombs and big plays rather than having him convert 3 and 4s after two running plays. While McNabb was not accurate, he didn't turn the ball over. There was no real negative to chucking it all over the field except they got too predictable.
    oakie
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:29 PM, 04/06/2010
    Norm Van Brocklin was the greatest quarterback ever to wear an Eagles uniform. Sonny Jurgenson is second. Neither were with the team for more than 3-5 years, but they were both great and HOF'ers. Their leadership was way beyond that of McNabb. I am not a hater. I enjoyed McNabb's play for the first 5 years, but he faded after that.
    DrBri
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:24 PM, 04/06/2010
    Brian Baldinger is a stammering idiot! I think we have learned that Baldy is actually lonewolf!!!
    yeadon75
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:23 PM, 04/06/2010
    I agree with MG44. He's always been negative on McNabb. There's really nothing new here. But the comment that Reid "can finally stop covering up" for McNabb makes no sense. This is a football not figure skating. There's nothing subjective about it. There are stats, wins and losses. If McNabb were a bad quarterback it would would show up in the stats and wins and losses. A coach can't hide anything that doesn't come through on the field. Two bad games at the end of the season after 11 years on the field don't "expose" anything; they are what they are -- two bad games at the end of the season. Plus, whose judgment are you going to trust on the question. Baldinger's, or a player like Dawkins, who was in the locker room and on the field with McNabb and even though they weren't even teammates last season, still has nothing but praise for what he did for the Eagles?
    eagleeye
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:19 PM, 04/06/2010
    Man everybody needs to relax with all this McNabb bashing. I like how everybody is so comfortable with a noodle arm qb that who so called only played two games and has already manage to throw 7 ints ( but he knows how to read defenses) and who has lost every game he has played against a good opponent, Ravens and Saints (big games)sound familiar! Everybody in Philly drinking the Kolb kool-aid! This is going to get real hilarious the next two years
    Birdman411
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:15 PM, 04/06/2010
    So what he's saying is that Reid has been hiding McNabb's flaws by making him pass 40 times a game? Logically that makes no sense. You don't hide someone's deficiencies by handing him the ball and expecting him to make plays downfield as this offense has done since 2004.
    sf1027
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:14 PM, 04/06/2010
    Baldy has been more critical of McNabb, especially his decisions and inability to get rid of the ball quickly. I remember him talking about how awful he was in San Diego when it came to finding wide open receivers.
    oakie
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:12 PM, 04/06/2010
    I can't wait until McNabb throws for 400 plus yards against the Eagles. Also Baldinger wasn't a good player when he played in the early 90's. He was OVERRATED!
    dowens1617
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:12 PM, 04/06/2010
    While I am not a McNabb fan and think the Eagles will be better without him I don't take Baldi at his word. I had the chance to chat with him a few years ago as he was a client of the company I used to work for. I believe it was sometime in the beginning of July 2008. Anyway I asked him if the Giants were going to trade Shockey considering they won the Super Bowl with Boss at tight end. He said NO WAY, Shockey is the heart and soul of that team, I talked to my insiders, blah, blah, blah. July 22nd 2008 proved something different.......so take it for what its worth....
    phillysportguy
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:11 PM, 04/06/2010
    I really feel one of the reasons the Eagles threw the ball so much was McNabb needs to constantly throw to stay in rhythm. His accuracy being so poor, he needs 3 throws per series of downs to work the first downs. I think we will be much more balanced with Kolb and mix in a few more plays with Vick. It should be interesting to see how McNabb does if they do decide to run the ball in Wash.
    oakie
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:08 PM, 04/06/2010
    This is a complete about-face. Usually Baldy supports McNabb. Why the sudden change? Honestly speaking, every QB in the game is overrated. They get too much praise when things go well, and too much blame when it goes bad. If 90% of the analysts around the league think McNabb is a good QB, then you have to say he is. By the same standard, if 90% of the analysts say that Kolb has a good upside but is a complete unknown commodity, then we should also believe that as well and stop acting like he's some kind of savior. #5 is a great QB, and before his career is done he will most likely be in the HOF. Not many teams shop a future HOFer to turn the reins over to someone who hasn't proven a thing. It's a gamble at best.
    sf1027
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:07 PM, 04/06/2010
    Interesting, Baldinger has been an analyst for quite some time and I've never heard him bash McNabb like this. Baldinger just woke up one day 8 years later and his opinion completely changed? Seems odd.
    JimG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:05 PM, 04/06/2010
    gwilli1234 thank you for injecting some sense on this board! No wants to admit the FatMan is an awful coach! If McNabb was such an awful QB, then why not run the ball more to limit his "bad" throwing? Instead, McNabb averaged around 35-40 attempts a game! If FatMan was so great, why draft Fred Ex and Stinkston? Why keep James Trash? Eagles consistently have the biggest o-line in the NFL, yet are always at the bottom of the NFL in rushing attempts. Consistently can't convert 3rd and short! I guess McNabb was calling all of those pass plays. People are so happy that Kolb will the QB. Well the o-line couldn't protect McNabb (who can run) and FatMan won't run the ball, so does it matter who's back there taking the snaps? NOPE! Until the FatMan is gone, the Eagles won't win the big one! Should have went after Shanahan or coaxed Cowher to take over. I will still cheer my Birds on but who will the "fans" blame now that McNabb is gone?
    Jacinto
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:00 PM, 04/06/2010
    I don't necessarily disagree with everything Baldy says here, but, he is a little harsh. McNabbs flaws are easily visible, true, but they are all magnified by Reid's flaws. Shanahan's strengths play to McNabb's strengths. It is alot easier to be a downfield passer when your playfake is respected by the defense. Reid rarely was willing to alter his precious version of the westcoast to fit 5's abilities. Big Ben isn't all that different as a passer than McNabb, but he has the benefit of a traditional offense with the threat of the run and talented receivers and he's had these things his whole career. Those things and a great defense get you a title apparently.
    bornlucky
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:57 PM, 04/06/2010
    donnie donnie, where did you run to?..time for my afternoon cocktail and meds..dont be a hata...pay your taxes and support my effort..my man..wolf~out.
    Lonewolf10
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:55 PM, 04/06/2010
    Something tells me McNabb will play well against the Eagles. I'm fine with going with Kolb; I asked for this change. But Reid wouldn't need to cover up for a guy who's throwing to Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell. Neither of them played after they left the Eagles, correct? So McNabb racked up quite a few wins throwing to guys nobody else wanted. Baldy is way off. McNabb is a good QB, sometimes very good. Never great, and maybe not as good a fit for the offense as Kevin Kolb. Eagles make the playoffs this year only if the OL and DL are up to it. And the secondary too, for that matter. Kolb/McNabb are the least of their worries. Glad Baldy is not protecting Kolb.
    tacklinjoe
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:55 PM, 04/06/2010
    Wondo, You nailed it buddy. I agree with you 100%
    sykesl19119
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:54 PM, 04/06/2010
    smitchell: The offense just seems to have had more flow and less herky-jerkiness, 3 and outs, etc., when it was Garcia or Kolb or even Feeley...right, i forgot how many playoff games they've won with them as QB...
    palmyra21
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:54 PM, 04/06/2010
    what does baldy know, he stunk as player..ahh its nice and sunny where I am..my man
    Lonewolf10
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:53 PM, 04/06/2010
    Baldinger is a complete jerk and incredibly over rated announcer. He should keep his yap shut.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:46 PM, 04/06/2010
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....BB got it sooooooo right!!!!He will be real good at handing the ball off and Shanahan will make every attempt to cover his flaws. But the only waty yo cover his flaws is to put him on the bench. The guy can no longer play...McSkin keeps his stats up INT/TD by throwing the ball at receivers feet....Bad footwork, bad judgement poor (if nonexistant) audibles. When was the last time we ran the no-huddle????HUH??? KK will do it weekly, he has the smarts, unlike knucklehead smith, air banjo was more like see ya McSCRUB
    SkipinWV
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:45 PM, 04/06/2010
    Marco Islander, Do you really think all of your "deep" questions negate what McNabb and company have achieved. Check the record books, and see how high McNabb is in career wins and winning %. Truly, analyze his surrounding cast all these years. As for your questions: Why did he lead the lead in passes batted down? (I don't know, maybe a porous O line) Maybe they could read his eyes. Why did he throw so many grounders? (Why is his td-int ratio one of the very best?) Why, in his career, did he lead so few 4th quarter and 2 minute winning drives? (Perhaps, because he did not need to, and still has a better lifetime winning % than masters of the hurry-up like Elway and Marino) Why were performances in those Championship games and Super Bowl mediocre at best? (Mostly, because teams were out manned, and how do you think he and the Eagles got there - by a coin flip?) The guy's 9-7 in the playoffs lifetime -not great, and certainly not bad and better than a lot of HOFers. So, i get it. He had nothing to do with any of the 9 wins (or with getting them to the playoffs, sometimes with a bye)and everything to do with the losses.
    MG44
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:45 PM, 04/06/2010
    Okay, I am fine with people pointing out the flaws in a player. That's sports. But what I have never understood is the absolute rage and vitriolic anger concerning this guy. Seriously, the Eagles were covering up for McNabb's flaws? If that's the case, wouldn't they have tried to make it so he threw the ball as little as possible? Wouldn't they have built a more dominating running game? No, they went in the complete opposite direction. They put the ball in McNabb's hands as much as humanly possible. Doesn't sound like a coach who is trying to cover up for the flaws of his quarterback. So no one is going to tell me that somehow Andy Reid is some brilliant genius who has been held back all these years by his quarterback. That's simplistic and idiotic. Why can't everyone just admit that McNabb was a very good player who just was never able to get over the hump, like scores of other players who have played in the NFL. Besides, who is Brian Baldinger anyway? He may have been one the worst players to ever suit up for the Eagles.
    Hemingway
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:43 PM, 04/06/2010
    @ Leegles, he was good, but not an all timer. Lets not get carried away, better than 90% of the QBs I can name(Montana, Young, Bradshaw, Fouts, Staubach, Theismann, Simms, Elway, Favre, Warner, Brady, Manning, Rothlesberger, Brees, Rivers, Marino, Tarkenton, Palmer, Etc.). Enough, he was a good qb, not great.
    kramer65
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:37 PM, 04/06/2010
    Phil C, You prattle on and on about this supposed "Wunderlich" score (It's "Wonderlic," dummy!), and can't even spell the name of the test. Also, please take your embarrassing, idiotic, anti-liberal and thinly veiled racist agenda off these boards. You are a true moron.
    MG44
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:26 PM, 04/06/2010
    The truly great qbs come out of a game when a drive fails and they either go to the headset to talk to the coaches upstairs or go to the sidelines to look at photos of the defense that just stopped them. McNabb did neither. He went to the sidelines and joked around with teammates. That shows a lack of comittment to me.
    klschs
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:21 PM, 04/06/2010
    This due has got to be on some kind of drugs. I ask all you philly fans how many NFC championship games did the eagles go to during his career with the team. You all think it is easy to win the super bowl.With the exception P. Manning and Brady no othe tp tier QB went thee more than twice during his eleven years. His talent covered up Andy Reid's flaws in that he is very predictable. You all think that because Kolb is more accurate he would be able tostep right i and lead this team. At least McNabb will have a running game behind him. I would not want to play the redskins next year. you all will see.
    gwilli1234
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:16 PM, 04/06/2010
    If McNabb is flawed and overrated, who's more at fault? McNabb or the head coach who kept running him out there for 11 years? I would argue the coach.
    tbone pickins
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:15 PM, 04/06/2010
    Baldinger is a clown, and was a horrible lineman when he played for the eagles
    phillyfanyo
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:15 PM, 04/06/2010
    Baldinger is a clown, and was a horrible lineman when he played for the eagles
    phillyfanyo
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:10 PM, 04/06/2010
    Baldinger's opinions are about as relevant as Ed Rendell. Terrible commentator.
    Fascism Rules
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:06 PM, 04/06/2010
    if you think donovan wasn't one of the best we've ever had, if not THE best, you are a simple hater who is frustrated by the lack of championships. i'm frustrated too, but will not deny how great donovan was for this organization. i'm excited for the kevin kolb era to finally begin, but i won't sit there and lie to myself that the mcnabb era was in any way, shape or form, a wasted or overrated period for the philadelphia eagles.
    aam13
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:04 PM, 04/06/2010
    Baldy hit the bullseye. But he was not the only Pro Football analyst to say McNabb had "fatal flaws". I posted that statement from another site right after their season was over. Answer these questions? Why did he lead the lead in passes batted down? Maybe they could read his eyes. Why did he throw so many grounders? Why, in his career, did he lead so few 4th quarter and 2 minute winning drives? Why were performances in those Championship games and Super Bowl mediocre at best? He was a Choker and could not perform under big time pressure. The stats and results speak for themselves.
    The Marco Islander
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:59 PM, 04/06/2010
    HOW do you cover up someones flaws by throwing the football more than any other team in the league. Its seems like Andy flaws were covered by a Great yes i said Great qb. any coach who thinks you can win by throwing 75% is flawed especially if he has no SUPERBOWLS to show for it.
    dadifference
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:59 PM, 04/06/2010
    In spite of all the numbers that McNabb has compiled throughout the years, imagine how much better he may have been if Reid had put him in a "better position to win." (Andy's favortie expression after a loss) Had Reid run more of a balanced attack over the years that would have kept the defense honest, on their toes, not knowing what to expect. It might have given the Eagles more opportunities to win.
    klschs
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:58 PM, 04/06/2010
    Everyone thinks Reid was Mc Nabb's guy. Maybe not. Maybe it was that liberal owner Jeff Lurie, who repeatedly bragged to his Boston buddies that he would be the next owner with a black QB winning the Super Bowl. Does anyone think Reid would pick a QB directly opposite of what he needed to run his offense. Mc Nabb was athletic, innaccurate and dumb, none of which is helpful as a West Coast QB. He was actually stupid to the point of getting a 13 in Wunderlich, not knowing that games could end in a tie, claimed to be a victim of black on black crime. In short he was/is stupid. All successful West Coast QB's thought and reacted quickly to what they saw. Just think of how many times Mc Nabb stood in the pocket, having no clue what was going on, and was sacked or chased out of the pocket. Maybe the skins got him to play tight end or linebacker.
    Phil Checchia
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:57 PM, 04/06/2010
    Anybody with a football aptitude is in denial if they think he is even in the top ten...take a look at film of superbowl winning quarterbacks and you will clearly see how far Donovan is from a championship QB....he's been hyped and a darling of the press (not sure why) he's hypersensitive...like when he got benched - crying like a baby - give the kid a chance and rebuild ...its time to move on
    phillysmart
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:55 PM, 04/06/2010
    Yeah, Flawed. Plays for a guy who is the worst game-day coach in the NFL, has ZERO ability to call a smart game, and takes the team to multiple huge games and plays well enough in almost every one of them to come out on top. Reid is the reason we lost, not McNabb. And now???? Get ready for some AWFULLLLLLLLLLL Eagles football!
    knebman
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:54 PM, 04/06/2010
    I have seen and heard Baldy be critical of McNabb a few times, as he looked at the tape after games and said that there were receivers open, and McNabb didn't see them. At least Baldy has the cohonees to speak his mind, and not tow the national media line of "how could they do this to Donovan."
    watsonmr
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:53 PM, 04/06/2010
    If my memory serves me correct Andy Reid never change up his offense for Mcnabb, Mcnabb was made to make HIS offense work. We will see who was covering up for who and the most over-reated qb in the history of the game sounds very famiiar....RUSH BALDINGER
    dadifference
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:49 PM, 04/06/2010
    McNabb has ALWAYS been OVERRATED! "inaccurate in the short passing game" -- what? an NFL QB? Baldy is right on the money here!
    ChangeISNeeded
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:42 PM, 04/06/2010
    ur man Skip Bayless? And his NFL credentials are what exactly?
    EaglesBleedMoney
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:39 PM, 04/06/2010
    I wouldn't say Reid was covering it up, it was more like he was in denial.
    Voytas
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:36 PM, 04/06/2010
    As a devoted Eagles fan I couldn't agree more...I've watched McNabb for his 11 seasons and when Jeff garcia took this team on a roll when mcNabb was injured a few years back I knew that Reid's system was making McNabb look good...during his playoff games it became apparent that he can't win the big one...look at Rothlesberger, warner brees and manning and brady...they make plays when the system falls down...Baldinger better watch himself Rush Limbaigh got fired for saying the same thing
    phillysmart
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:35 PM, 04/06/2010
    McNabb might have lost all those games but Reid did as well ...
    Gringo4
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:35 PM, 04/06/2010
    Reid is too stupid to figure out and expose Done-avan's flaws. If Jimmy Johnson was still around he would have no problems figuring them out but Reid...no chance. The Skins will run the ball down the Eagles throats next season and show Reid what a real team is supposed to do and that is to RUN THE FOOTBALL!!!
    tralala
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:34 PM, 04/06/2010
    Donovan was a very good QB for about 8 of his 11 years in Phila. However very good QBs don't usually win Championships. Outstanding QB's usually dominate and inspire - Donovan just wasn't that inspiring. Let's face it if our Defense doesn't get better then even the Mannings or Brady wouldn't win here.
    afh726
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:31 PM, 04/06/2010
    Kingback, Who gives a *** about selective stats? Do you realize that the Eagles scored more points than all but 4 teams in the NFL last year with wholesale changes and a poor O line surrounding the qb? More than the Colts, by the way. That the Birds were 11-5, 10-4 with D-Mac, with a mediocre D? That McNabb averaged more yards per pass attempt last year than the "sainted" MVP, Manning, and I would prefer Manning's skill people and O line to Donovan's. And yes, they lost in the first round of the playoffs, making this the first one-and-done of McNabb's career. Manning? Oh, he's only done that 6 times!!! Just a little perspective, Mr. Stats.
    MG44
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:25 PM, 04/06/2010
    When I first learned of trading McNabb to Washington I was angry and upset over dealing him to a division rival. Two days later I am much more understanding and behind the move.With McNabb letting them know he wasn't about to go to Buffalo or Oakland, Washington may have been their only option, so they took it. The Eagles were physically dominated by the Cowboys and the Saints last year. Until they shore up the defense and offensive line, no quarterback is going to take them to the promised land. So it makes sense to deal Donovan while they can get something for him than to go 9-7 or 10-6 and then lose him for nothing at seasons end. While I still have some overall concerns about Kolb, he does have some darn fine weapons around him to make him look decent. If we can draft well this year and next, the Eagles will remain a very good team provided Kolb is not a total bust.
    bradco
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:21 PM, 04/06/2010
    Baldinger is right on, and McNabb never lived up to the hype, and was a PC protected guy. For all the lost championship games, the lost Super Bowl, the balls thrown inaccurately into the ground and the failure TO LEAD, he deserves all the criticism....stop the PC stuff....may he do better in DC, but I doubt it.....
    boasocal
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:21 PM, 04/06/2010
    I agree with A92Coupe - this is just odd. I have seen Baldinger speak highly of McNabb plenty of times on Comcast Daily News Live. Not saying McNabb isn't flawed, but what's his deal blaming him 100% for the loses against the Cowboys? Oh well, very odd if you ask me. Maybe Donovan made fun of his masterpiece pinky...
    EaglesBleedMoney
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:18 PM, 04/06/2010
    Baldinger watches film and knows more about football then probably all of you McNabb lovers combined. McNabb has got 2 years left as a starter, and Baldinger is right, McNabb will make the same mistakes there as he has in all of his other 11 years.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:18 PM, 04/06/2010
    my man SKip Bayless also said that the Eagles weren't scared of McNabb. He is aging, he doesnt have any real weapons now - think about it - most of the skins' "weapons" are all past their prime, and Cooley had surgery so who knows how good he will be. Oh - and their O-line SUCKS! Good luck, Donnie Mac.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:11 PM, 04/06/2010
    Baldinger should definetly lose his credentials for those comments! What an a**!! How could you have a job making that kinda money and that is the best you can come up with about a potential Hall of Fame QB? And we watch this guy?
    A92coupe