Tuesday, June 18, 2013
Tuesday, June 18, 2013

Minus Giroux, will others step up?

For the last three games, the Flyers have had no sustained forecheck, no emotion, no answers in their Eastern Conference semifinals against the surging New Jersey Devils.

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Minus Giroux, will others step up?

POSTED: Monday, May 7, 2012, 5:29 PM

Can the Flyers overcome the loss of Claude Giroux and beat the Devils in Game 5?
Yes. They are due to break out of this slump.
No. They are too far gone to recover now.

For the last three games, the Flyers have had no sustained forecheck, no emotion, no answers in their Eastern Conference semifinals against the surging New Jersey Devils.

And, now, as they try to stave off elimination in Game 5 on Tuesday, they have no Claude Giroux, the star center who leads the NHL with 17 points in this year’s playoffs.

Does that mean they have no chance?

Well, no.

In a twisted way, not having their superstar center – suspended by the NHL on Monday for a head hit on the Devils’ Dainius Zubrus on Sunday – may unify the Flyers and give them a rallying cry.

That’s their hope, anyway.

And, hey, if you’ve watched how the Devils have embarrassed the Flyers over the last three games, all with Giroux in the lineup, you know the Orange and Black need something, anything, to wake them out of their malaise.

You don’t have to look too far to find teams that rallied without star players in this year’s playoffs.

Pittsburgh did it in Game 4 of the conference quarterfinals against the Flyers, missing three suspended players – including winger James Neal, a 40-goal scorer this season – and registering a 10-3 victory.

New Jersey did it in Game 2 against the Flyers as standout winger Ilya Kovalchuk was sidelined with a back injury.  Final: Devils 4, Flyers 1.

Giroux will obviously be missed. He plays in all situations, and plays harder than anyone on the team.

The Flyers will need everyone to raise their level to make up for his absence, and it will be intriguing to see how they react. They responded all season without their official captain, the injured Chris Pronger. Now they will try to do it without their unofficial captain.

The suspension seemed to surprise the Flyers. After all, there have been worse hits (see Nashville’s Shea Weber and Washington’s Alex Ovechkin in two different incidents) in this year’s playoffs that did not draw suspensions. And the Penguins’ Evgeni Malkin didn’t even have a hearing after two questionable hits against the Flyers in Round 1.

For the most part, it seemed like stars were being spared. Or given light punishment. Take Neal, a repeat offender, getting just a one-game suspension after making a run at Giroux and LEAVING HIS FEET to hit Sean Couturier’s head on the same shift.

Based on those incidents, it’s easy to understand why many thought Giroux would be fined, but not suspended. He had no past history, and he didn’t leave his feet to hit Zubrus.

“It’s no fun; it’s not what we were looking for,” center Danny Briere said of Giroux’s suspension. “Obviously when your best player is going to miss a crucial game, it (hurts). But you know what, it’s our season (Tuesday) and there’s no time to sit back and complain. If we did, it would be wasted energy. It is what it is and we can’t change anything. At the end of the day, we have to move forward and have to find a way to win.”

Giroux said it was not his intention to hit Zubrus in the head.

“That’s not the kind of player I am,” he said.

That kind of explanation helped Neal in his hearing with Brendan Shanahan, the NHL’s discipline czar.

It didn’t help Giroux.

Without the shifty center, the Flyers figure to insert winger Zac Rinaldo into the lineup. Rinaldo gives the team energy, not scoring. The scoring will have to come from players who have been mostly non-factors in this series. Guys like Wayne Simmonds and Jaromir Jagr, among others.

Giroux’s absence will give others more minutes, and there’s a chance Andrej Meszaros returns and bolsters a sagging defense. Will they flourish or will the Flyers _ who were 3-2-1 against the Devils in the regular season and had one more point than New Jersey _ continue their freefall and be able to get tee times on Wednesday?

“Somehow, we have to make it work,” said Briere about another night of revamped lines. “Everybody has to dig deep. It’s one game. It’s not like it’s the rest of the playoffs without Claude.”

Well, it is if the Flyers suffer their fourth straight defeat.

“We have to find a way to win,” Briere said, “and go from there.”

Contact Sam Carchidi at scarchidi@phillynews.com, or on Twitter @BroadStBull.

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Comments  (18)
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:27 PM, 05/07/2012
    No use complaining about it. It is what it is. When Pittsburgh lost their mind, they got what they deserved and we loved it, now when one our players pulls a selfish act, we need to find to win, and go on from their as Briere said. That being said, whether it's Giroux, the Penguins, Rangers, or any other team that's been guilty of these head shots...when are these players going to learn? Probably not until the minimum penalty is 5 or 10 games.
    brendanflyer
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:52 PM, 05/07/2012
    This series is over Tuesday with or without Giroux. Flyers youth finally caught up to them. 6 rookies getting serious playoff minutes was bound to catch up to them. Future is bright...
    pflynn20
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:57 PM, 05/07/2012
    And Shea Weber got fined. Further proof that Shanahan consults a Magic 8-ball in his deliberations.
    Darren9
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:17 PM, 05/07/2012
    I'm so glad Carchidi referenced the fact that James Neal only got suspended for one game after obviously going for the heads of G and Couturier on the same shift. How in the world is G out for the same amount of time? There is no balance here. Just BS.
    IssueMovement
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:43 PM, 05/07/2012
    Rinaldo will be sitting in the penalty box at least once, better work on the PK.
    Rochesterflyer
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:53 PM, 05/07/2012
    "When the best player on our team approaches me saying he doesn't feel like playing this series and wants to cry when things aren't going his way then take a bad penalty, I'm not going to say no." -Lavy from Vorhees this afternoon.
    theeutmost
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:51 PM, 05/07/2012
    TROLL - get off our board you loser!
    Daddio
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:04 PM, 05/07/2012
    I cannot see how anyone could imagine this series is not over, and the Flyers gone from the playoffs after the next game. Never mind the proposed nonsense about someone (or some several) stepping up for Claude Giroux. The real problem is, as has been through the playoffs, BETWEEN THE PIPES! Ilya Bryzgalov, the $50M lemon has had but ONE (count IT!) 1 (UNO!) really decent game of the ten in the playoffs so far played. Really, the sole reason that Pittsburgh went down was that Marc-Andrew Fleury was even WORSE than was IB. What a waste of money he is!
    BEMiller
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:33 PM, 05/07/2012
    You must be watching a different series than I am. The worst you can say about Bryzgalov in this series is that he hasn't stolen any games the Flyers should have lost. But he's been much better than in the Pittsburgh series (admittedly against lesser-quality scorers).

    If you honestly think that anything less than the combined reincarnation of Bernie Parent, Patrick Roy and Ron Hextall would have the Flyers in this series, you haven't been paying attention. They have been utterly and completely dominated on the boards on every stage of the ice, committing turnovers by the dozen per shift and unable to prevent the Devils from easily clearing their zone almost every single time. How on earth is any of that Bryz's fault?
    digs0
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:19 PM, 05/07/2012
    There is little doubt that Shanahan has a tough job, but he has been all over the board with his fines, suspensions and reasoning behind each. This suspension was borderline, but seems even more ridiculous with those infractions that received zero discipline and those that received similar punishment.

    @BEMiller, if you think this series being 3-1 rests on the shoulders of Bryz, your nuts. He has not stolen a game, but has given the Flyers every opportunity to win in this series. It is the 5 guys in front him that look lost, slow and unable to make a tape to tape pass...especially out of the defensive zone.
    phoreverphilly
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:29 PM, 05/07/2012
    This is why I was rooting so hard for the Florida Panthers two weeks ago.
    Snap Crackle Propp
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:35 PM, 05/07/2012
    Put a fork in them. They are too inconsistent, and they don't seem to be able to play a full sixty minutes. You would have thought they would have shown up after getting embarrassed in game 2, but they have been sleep walking ever since. It's a shame, I live and die following this team, but I feel like they have quit on us.
    72Tiger
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:50 PM, 05/07/2012
    It aint over till its over.Go flyers!
    bill the pill
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:59 PM, 05/07/2012
    Need some magic to steal Game 5. Calling Pronger (wishful thinking) and Mez...youngins need to step up and veterans need to make it happen.
    boom dynamite
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:24 PM, 05/07/2012
    Bryz kept us in the game last night. [period] Shanahan's explanation was excellent, and if considered in a vacuum makes perfect sense. when considered within the context of his other disciplinary actions [or lack thereof] it is really tough to follow.
    birdfannnj
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:32 PM, 05/07/2012
    The opponents control the puck about 70% of the time. Series is over.
    fanup
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:33 PM, 05/07/2012
    The issues you're seeing with this team now, are the same issues, EXACTLY the same issues they've had since the day Laviolette got here.
    I could write pages on why and name names, but I will only say this: Think long and hard..ASk yourself, when was the last time you ever saw a coach call a time out just minutes into a game to settle his team down because they were scored on in the 1st few moments or were in disarray and being dominated badly? Can you even come up with 1 time in the past few years that ANY coach has done this? And the reason that Laviolette has done this 15 times this year alone is the reason you're seeing what you're seeing now. Laviolette has failed to address or solve.. or worse, doesn't even think we HAVE a problem. But Laviolette has failed to instill a winning mentality in the team. A mentality that should be reinforced regularly. It's so blantently obvious that 1/2 the time, this team is just not ready to step on the ice and play. It wasn't Carter, it wasn't Richards, and it's not the 10 new players we have this year. The truth of the matter is that in reality, Laviolette is a horrible coach. A horrible teaching coach and a horrible inspirational coach. He's installed no viable system, holds no one responsible, and does not have the team ready to play. Ready to play every game, every period and every shift. ALL of these problems have been going on since the day he got here and won't be resolved until he's gone no matter who we put out there.
    dedhed
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:43 AM, 05/08/2012
    dedhed
    I kind of agree. You can't win if you don't adjust to the game. But my question is if they get rid of Lavy who is the next coach?
    starlight


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