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Thursday, December 4, 2008

   The Flyers said yesterday that high-scoing center Danny Briere will miss four or five weeks because of a "significant" groin strain.

   They also said the injury had nothing to do with rushing him back to action.

   Maybe. But something sure looks fishy.

  Earlier this season, Briere had abdominal surgery and missed six games. He then returned to the lineup much quicker than expected, played two games and suffered a groin strain. Originally, the club said the groin injury was not related to the abdominal problem.

   Yesterday, Briere said doctors told him the injuries WERE related.

   I'm not a doctor, but I can connect the dots. When you connect them, it screams that the Flyers brought Briere back too soon.

   After the initial groin-strain injury, Briere missed nine games, then returned and played briefly Tuesday in a 4-3 OT win against Tampa Bay. He lasted less than half the game before re-aggravating the injury.

   Briere said doctors told him that, even if he didn't return to the lineup Tuesday and sat out another week or two, the injury could have resurfaced.

   Maybe. But it says here the Flyers need to start taking a more cautious approach before a player returns from an injury.

   In addition to Briere, defenseman Ossi Vaananen was re-injured in the early stages after his return. Earlier this season, Vaananen missed three games with a broken finger. In his first game back, he tore the stitches in his finger and had to sit out four more games.

    The latest injury to Briere opens cap space and will enable the Flyers to activate defenseman Randy Jones, who is recovering from hip surgery. Jones may be ready in mid-December. The defense is playing well, however, and they would be wise not to rush him back.

   In the meanwhile, with Briere out until sometime in January, one wonders if the Flyers will make inquiries again about free-agent Bendan Shanahan. The guess here is that they will ride out Briere's absence by using one of three hard-working, impressive players who have spent most of the year with the AHL Phantoms: Darroll Powe, Jared Ross or Jon Kalinski.

   Down the road, when Jones and Ryan Parent both return from injuries, they will have to make a decision on whether to keep 18-year-old Luca Sbisa or send him to juniors.

   Nobody asked me, but.....Sbisa needs to stay. He has become a valuable defenseman (and power-play contributor) and is playing beyond his years. Sending him down will only stunt his development.

* * * * * * *

   In case you missed it, Phil Sheridan wrote a terrific column on Scott Hartnell's glove-throwing escapade in Tuesday's bizarre 4-3 overtime win over Tampa Bay.

* * * * * * *

   Jones had hoped to be ready for Saturday, but is now aiming for mid-December.

   “There were some more issues with the hip and it’s not 100 percent,” he said after yesterday’s practice. “It has to be 100 percent for at least a week or two for me to come back. It’s just starting to turn around a little bit.”

    Jones estimated the hip was 80 percent healthy; he may be able to return Dec. 16 against Colorado .

  * * * * * 

   Marty Biron (2.95 goals-against average) will be in goal tonight for the Flyers. Scott Clemmensen (2.55 GAA) and Kevin Weekes (2.87) have filled in for New Jersey because future Hall-of-Famer Martin Brodeur (2.16), whom the Flyers defeated twice this season, is sidelined for at least a couple more months with an elbow injury….In the fans’ vote, the Canadiens are leading for all six starting spots for the Jan. 25 all-star game in Montreal. Flyers center Jeff Carter, who has 18 goals and is tied for the NHL goal-scoring lead with Buffalo ’s Thomas Vanek, isn’t on the all-star ballot and the organization is starting a vote-in campaign. Fans can vote at www.nhl.com….The NHL has put Scottie Upshall on notice for his major boarding penalty on Tuesday….A little over 900 tickets remain for tonight’s game.

_ Sam Carchidi

Posted by Sam Carchidi @ 5:30 AM  Permalink | 27 comments
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Posted 05:32 PM, 12/04/2008
bsp119
Sam, are you serious? Why would the Flyers have "rushed" Briere back at all when they were 6-1-2 in the last 9 games without him? Knuble and Gagne certainly haven't missed their centerman very much.
Posted 05:16 PM, 12/04/2008
dj.curly
Rich, I couldn't agree with you more. Biron is a solid back up guy but not the guy that will be spectacular on a regular basis. Last year's playoffs were a good example of getting on a hot streak at the right time.Take the end of the year and the very beginning of the year away and he was very below average. I like the guy but I'm tired of watching other team's goalie highlights every night. Give me a real goalie and then the stupid mistakes in front of him aren't as harmful.
Posted 02:45 PM, 12/04/2008
JourneyHome
Biron is going to be fine - when he is squared to the shooter controlling rebounds he can get us a Cup - unless you can really upgrade - Luongo last year or Brodueaur a few years ago, Hasek in his prime, Roy - I mean a top, top hall of fame goalie - unless we can get a hold of that we aren't going to do much better than Biron. I've always marveled at the Hexy = great goalie fans - awesome rookie year - huge, huge heart, bled orange and black but Bobby D is right. Stevens is a smart coach I second that completely - he'll get Lups going - Sbisa is second only to Timmo - totally agree. Phillies and Flyers, two pretty good home town teams - maybe it is Always Sunny in Philadelphia!
Posted 02:18 PM, 12/04/2008
jamarder
Hey, Briere is a grown man, if he felt like he was being rushed back too soon, then he needs to speak up and say I don't feel healthy enough.
Posted 02:11 PM, 12/04/2008
mebphila
RichardsC08 - I think you are quick to hit the panic button with Biron. He has played himself into the role #1 goalie (again) after a shaky start (no coincidence to the lack of depth at "D" to start the season?). He asserted himself last year - and mark my words - the Flyers don't get to the Final Four last year without him in between the pipes. Nitti has proven to be a more than admirable backup, too. Lest not forget, the NHL season is a marathon, not a sprint. How many years were the Flyers tops in the league during October, November, December - only to see things fall apart as the weather warmed and the games got more intense? This team has depth and character, and in my opinion, it has a starting goalie in Biron.
Posted 02:09 PM, 12/04/2008
kprimo25
Parent is a first round draft pick. In another year, add Parent to Coburn, Carle and Sbisa (three other 1st round draft picks), and the Flyers' blue line is sick. I'd trade Randy Jones to shed cap space, and with Briere on LTIR, we'll have a few bucks to spend at the trade deadline. That said, Lupul needs to pick up his game. Apparently he doesn't play well with job security. Start a trade rumor and get him off his duff. I like how this team is lining up for the playoff run and the post-season, though. That said, we've got two UFA goalies next year, so maybe next year is the year we finally sign a blue chip goalie.
Posted 01:45 PM, 12/04/2008
mactad
Can anyone give me an update on Giroux? Is he ready to step in with the injury to Briere?
Posted 01:34 PM, 12/04/2008
brkawy
Everyone complaining about Lupul not being worth the money should check the facts. His new contract starts next year. He's making the same now that he made last year. Briere needs to get healthy, the stats show the Flyers are fine without him, so there's no need to rush him. I'd like to see Briere moved because he's only taking time away drom Richards and Carter, but he has a no trade clause and a ridiculous salary for absolutely no defensive skill. I say bump either Alberts or Vaananen when Jones comes back, and depending on how Parent is playing, send the other one to the minors. We need a goalie, but that's been the case for the last 10 years. Holmgren put together a great team but over paid for a lot of the talent (see Hartnell/Biron). Flyers have all the pieces to make a great run this year, Carter/Richards/Gagne are looking incredible. The D looks good for the most part, Coburn took a small step back from where he was last year, but he'll regain last year's form before the playoffs. I'd like to see the D get a little more physical in the slot. How did Recchi get to the crease last game essentially untouched?
Posted 01:31 PM, 12/04/2008
BobbyD
Hextall's prime? What was that the rooike season of 86-87? Because other than that he was pretty marginal. Remember Claude Lemieux's wrist shot from the blue line beat him in Game 5 with series tied at 2, with less than a minute left in regulation to basically win the series vs NJD in 95? Or against Detroit in 97 Finals when Yzerman scored from outside blue line. Hextall = over rated, and couldn't carry Pelle Lindbergh's jock.
Posted 01:18 PM, 12/04/2008
cbecko
What happenned to the ten game limit for Sbisa? It is my understanding that if a junior-eligible player plays more than ten games on a tryout that the parent team is obligated to keep him on the roster for the entire season. The only way he can get sent to the minors is on a reconditioning assignment. Have the rules changed?
Posted 12:54 PM, 12/04/2008
Bazalite
The league put Scottie on notice for a "major boarding" call? They should have put the referee on notice for mis-calling a clean hit on the boards. Head shotting Gagne is legal but Upshall's hit is a game misconduct... shame shame.
Posted 12:04 PM, 12/04/2008
toph314
"The fact that they had Briere serve Upshall's penalty the other night really says a lot." It says nothing other than the fact that someone on the ice at the time of the penalty must serve the penalty. You're not going to put a defenseman in the box while short-handed and since a forward got the penalty and was ejected, that leaves just Briere and, I guess it was, Lupol to pick from. Briere has never really been a penalty killer so why not have him serve the penalty. So all that having him serve the penalty "says" to me is that our coach is smart.
Posted 11:46 AM, 12/04/2008
RichardsCaptain08
I think you need to start considering making a trade for a goaltender with your depth at defense. Vaanan's not great, but he's enough to dangle with Jones to maybe get a good goaltender in here. I mean a REAL goaltender, one we haven't had since Hextall's prime (yes, it's been that long). Boucher has been playing solid the last 3 years and would work well with this team. He's more agile than he was when he was younger (weird). Also, Florida has two great goaltenders (Anderson, Vokoun). Vokoun is old, but he's awesome and knows Timonen very well from their days in Nashville. I would like to see Biron go back to his healthy position of back up. He just won't win games for you (the breakaway save was a flash in the pan, so we're last year's playoffs).
Posted 11:46 AM, 12/04/2008
RichardsCaptain08
I think you need to start considering making a trade for a goaltender with your depth at defense. Vaanan's not great, but he's enough to dangle with Jones to maybe get a good goaltender in here. I mean a REAL goaltender, one we haven't had since Hextall's prime (yes, it's been that long). Boucher has been playing solid the last 3 years and would work well with this team. He's more agile than he was when he was younger (weird). Also, Florida has two great goaltenders (Anderson, Vokoun). Vokoun is old, but he's awesome and knows Timonen very well from their days in Nashville. I would like to see Biron go back to his healthy position of back up. He just won't win games for you (the breakaway save was a flash in the pan, so we're last year's playoffs).
Posted 11:36 AM, 12/04/2008
Flyers2001
Parent played well in the limited games last year and this year should have been a step forward. I would like to see Vananen as the odd man out as I think Alberts has really stepped his game up and become a servicable 5-6 d-man. Sbisa goes nowhere, keeping him after the 9th game of the year pretty much summed it up that he stays, or losing that year of restriction would be wasted. We will be fine without Briere so it just pays for him to stay out as long as possible to be as healthy as possible for the late strecth run. No need for Shanny either. Maybe the Flyers can showcase Jones when he comes back for a deadline deal to gain cap space. Its a shame the Flyers sign Loops to that deal as well because he is not living up to what he could be.
Posted 11:17 AM, 12/04/2008
Captain Splendor
Having Briere on the team is huge come playoff time. Teams basically will only really be able to check two lines. How soon people forget how great Briere was in the playoffs last year. The Flyers do not need more blueline depth, and Biron has been fine since early season struggles. Unless this team struggles for an extended period of time, I see no reason to make any changes.
Posted 11:10 AM, 12/04/2008
AreaMan
Let the Habs have the All Star Game, we'll take the playoffs.
Posted 11:03 AM, 12/04/2008
AreaMan
Am I the only one who does not see Briere being out for another month as a bad thing? I did not even realize he was playing on Tuesday night until he took that stupid hooking penalty. Him being out has really cleared the path for Carter and Richards this year. Carter is playing like a man possessed right now. Let's keep that going. The fact that they had Briere serve Upshall's penalty the other night really says a lot.
Posted 10:23 AM, 12/04/2008
CupCRAZE23
Sbisa is the 2nd best defensemen on the team right now in my opinion.
Posted 10:19 AM, 12/04/2008
IrishEyes
Ogie ~~ Boy did you hit the nail on the head....
Posted 09:25 AM, 12/04/2008
Prego614
Groin injuries and hamstring injuries are tough to judge. This though seems like it is related to his abdominal injury, almost similar to what Kevin Curtis of the Eagles had. I dont think they rushed players back from injury they took their time with Gagne and now look at him. But it would be nice to see this entire team healthy and on the ice together. I am not all for moving Briere unless a deal comes that you cant refuse. They are playing good without him but that doesnt mean that he is not valuable to this team. He just needs to stay healthy. Look what he did last year when he was healthy. He also performs well in the playoffs.
Posted 09:23 AM, 12/04/2008
BroadStreet
Sbisa is much better than Parent from what I've seen. No way should Sbisa be sent to juniors. Parent looked in over his head last season while Sbisa has looked extremely solid. Great skater and great at getting the puck to the net patricularly on the power play.
Posted 09:20 AM, 12/04/2008
OgieOglethorpe
someone ask eric lindros, keith primeau, and simon gagne about the flyers history of treating injuries.
Posted 09:07 AM, 12/04/2008
Flyguy12
The Shanny ship has sailed. If Briere isn't on LTIR they don't have the cap space to bring back Jones and/or Parent.
Posted 09:03 AM, 12/04/2008
Jon B
Any chance that the Flyers might try to move Briere once he gets healthy in order to clear up cap space? He's still a very good player, but it is getting more apparent with every game that he is the third best center on the team, and his price tag is a bit steep for that role (esp. since he is often a defensive liability). Not that he's not still a valuable player for the Flyers, but it seems that he'd be more valuable for another team, and the Flyers could surely use the blueline depth which would come if they are able to keep both Jones and Parent around. And it might enable them to perhaps sign Shanny as well.
Posted 07:52 AM, 12/04/2008
dave-tx
Once Sbisa goes back to juniors, he stays until the end of the junior season. The Flyers should be OK at defense when Jones and Parent return. Earlier this season I would have been all for Sbisa being sent back down, but he's playing significant minutes and has shown that he's ready to play here. Unless it just comes down to a numbers issue, he's earned a spot on the team. The Flyers still have a cap issue when Briere returns, and Jones is a likely candidate to be an odd man out, largely due to Sbisa's NHL readiness.
Posted 06:23 AM, 12/04/2008
BobbyD
If they did return Sbisa to juniors, but needed him later in the season due to injuries, could they recall him?
About Sam Carchidi
Sam Carchidi, who has covered primarily South Jersey high school sports and the Phillies for three decades, is in his second year as the Flyers’ beat writer. He has followed the Flyers since their inception in 1967-68, and remembers when only the third periods of their games were broadcast on the radio - just seven years before they became the city's most popular franchise.

Carchidi has written three books _ the nationally acclaimed Miracle in the Making: The Adam Taliaferro Story, which he co-authored with Scott Brown; Bill Campbell: The Voice of Philadelphia Sports; and Standing Tall: The Kevin Everett Story, which was featured on the Oprah Winfrey Show.

A lifelong South Jersey resident, Carchidi lives in Wenonah, N.J., with his wife, JoAnn, and he is a passionate sports fan of the colleges attended by his daughter, Sara (tiny Mount St. Mary’s in Maryland, which qualified for the NCAA men’s basketball tournament last season and is unbeaten in football since 1951) and his son, Sammy (West Virginia, an annual challenger for the nation’s No. 1 ranking in football and men’s basketball).