Posted: Monday, April 25, 2011, 2:22 PM | 37 comments |
 
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Was the Eagles’ selection of Kevin Kolb (36th overall in 2007) a wise pick?
Yes.
No.

If a quarterback is taken 36th overall in this week’s draft, and by 2014 he has only seven starts to his name, would you consider that a successful pick?

Almost definitely not. But evaluating the Eagles’ decision to draft Kevin Kolb – taken 36th in 2007 and with just seven career starts – is more complicated than that simple math.

I ran into this issue last week as Jeff and I prepared our series on the draft (round one on Thursday). We’re also looking back at the Eagles last five draft classes, and I drew the 2007 group, which is tough to evaluate when you consider that the top pick was Kolb.

How do you judge a pick on a player who, four years into his career, has hardly played – but who still has a chance to be an NFL starter at the game’s most important position? The question is not about how good Kolb will turn out to be, but about this: even if he IS good, was he the right guy for the Eagles to pick?

I spent a lot of time thinking about it before concluding that, sitting here today, you can still believe that Kolb has a future in the league, while also arguing that the Eagles would have been better off with immediate help.

First the positive: you can’t exactly say the Eagles missed when they picked Kolb. After all, he pretty much followed the path you would have wanted: spent a few years learning and developed well enough that the team felt comfortable handing him the keys when they parted ways with Donovan McNabb. That’s about what you ask of a second round QB.

While we still don’t know if Kolb can lead a team to the playoffs, he has shown enough potential that there are franchises that would be willing to give him a shot.

But ultimately, anyone drafted this weekend is going to be evaluated based on what they contribute on the field. And through a series of tough circumstances (Kolb began his career behind a franchise quarterback, and got stuck behind Michael Vick in 2011), Kolb has relatively little game action on his resume.

At a position as important as quarterback, it's smart for teams to plan ahead. The Eagles would deserve far more criticism if they had gone to the end of the McNabb era without a transition plan. But the NFL is unpredictable, and in this case it seems the Eagles were counting on things unfolding in an orderly fashion, when we know they often don't.

No one could have guessed that Vick would have landed in Philly or played as well as he did last year. Nor could anyone have known that a lockout would hurt the Eagles' ability to cash in on Kolb in a trade this offseason. But after the team got credit for taking a gamble on Vick that paid off better than anyone could foresee, it’s fair to ding them for drafting a quarterback who has hardly played, even if that is also due to circumstances no one could have predicted.

The evaluation could change, of course, if the Eagles pull off a Kolb trade that gets them a nice draft pick or a starting-caliber player from another team. Then you could make the argument that an investment paid off over time. (If Cincy doesn’t draft a QB, how about Kolb for the rights to Johnathan Joseph, the CB who was tendered? Just a suggestion ... )

Looking back on the pick, and the end of the McNabb era, you can see the Eagles' logic when they took Kolb. But the final evaluation has to be based on how things actually worked out, not the theory.

For now, while I don't think you can kill the team for drafting Kolb, it's fair to rap them for not getting tangible production from a pretty high pick. Even if it Kolb turns out to be a strong starter, it will almost certainly be elsewhere. Whoever picks at 36 on Friday will be hoping for a better return.

Posted by Jonathan Tamari @ 2:22 PM  Permalink | 37 comments
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:42 PM, 04/25/2011
    Kolb was drafted because the Eagles got tired of McNabb's injury history. In '06 he tore his acl, in '05 he had the sports hernia, in '03 he had an injury to his thumb, and in '02 he broke his fibula. Even in '07, he played on one leg while he rehabbed from his acl; no one knew he wouldn't get injured again--oh wait, in '09, he had injured ribs and missed 2 games. So, no, I don't think you could call Kolb a wasted pick.
    bobbyuk
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 2:58 PM, 04/25/2011
    "Was Kevin Kolb a wise draft pick?" answer that one bobby. answer=no, not really.
    beerflow
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:22 PM, 04/25/2011
    What a stupid article. Kolb was drafted because they were tired of McNabb, like bobby said. He spent 3 years learning. He was made a starter in year 4, everything looks promising, but he gets hurt and suffers from Vick's reemergence. He has followed the same thing the Packers did with Rodgers, except for the concussion and Vick being in the picture. It allowed them to dump McNabb and move on, just like the Packers were able to get rid of jack-donkey Favre. If they don't draft Kolb, McNabb is still here.

    Terrible, terrible article. What the hell was the point? Kolb injured during the year he was supposed to show something, Vick comes out of nowhere, so Kolb looking for chance to start somewhere else. Did I learn anything from this article...no.
    tripleplay83
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:25 PM, 04/25/2011
    Easy answer is no...They traded out of the first round to eventually draft an insurance policy. That policy played in only a handful of games and for the most part played well against one team with a solid defense. That first round pick could have been used for position talent that they very badly need right now
    rvb2321
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:31 PM, 04/25/2011
    If he was insurance and we turn it into a 1st rder then yes - I take that everytime.
    CSpangler
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:32 PM, 04/25/2011
    How can anyone say "no"? Franchise QBs don't grow on trees. They generally take 3 years to develop. If we don't draft a QB early that year, then McNabb is your QB last year and probably next year. Throw Vick out, that was a fluke thing. People are morons...at least Reid has the balls to have a 3 year plan at the time. Yea, a first round positional player would have helped that year and for a few years. But look at teams that haven't had a franchise QB for a decade now, do you want to root for one of those teams? Reid saw value in a guy he liked, realized McNabb wasn't getting any younger, so he made his move. That's the right move. If you don't think so, go root for Buffalo. I don't want a team with a QB battle between mediocre guys every year. We already have that with goalies on the Flyers.
    tripleplay83
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:42 PM, 04/25/2011
    well done tripleplay. And when we get a 1st rounder for him......great pick. What we get with that first rounder????
    peteike
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:43 PM, 04/25/2011
    "If a quarterback is taken 36th overall in this week’s draft, and by 2014 he has only seven starts to his name, would you consider that a successful pick?"

    How about if you took him 24th and by 2014 he only had 16 starts to his name?

    Did that article run in Green Bay papers 4 years after Aaron Rodgers was drafted?

    Seriously, I'm so sick of Philly's over-criticizing nature. Give us articles about where Kolb might fit best. Compare his stats to the other QBs drafted the same year. Compare his stats to other QBs in their first 4 years. But stop with this whiny nonsense to fill space.
    tripleplay83
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:48 PM, 04/25/2011
    @Pete the point is, McNabb is gone. It's not just trading 1st rounder for a 1st 4 years later. It changed the whole culture of the team when the young guys started rallying around Kolb instead of McNabb. Vick was a fluke thing. Pro Bowl QBs in their prime don't fall in your lap...ever. The Eagles got once in a generation lucky. If that didn't happen, or Vick didn't play well behind Kolb, then Kolb's our guy next year and played more last year. Everyone thought the Vick move was stupid after the first year when he only played sparingly in the wildcat. I'm still not sold on him as a franchise QB given his running. I'd trade Vick for picks and give Kolb a shot personally. Unless Andy's willing to totally depart from the West Coast Offense because it doesn't fit Vick at all.

    Also, Vick was the only chance behind that line last season. No other QB in the league survives without Vick's legs. That's not Kolb's fault.
    tripleplay83
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:57 PM, 04/25/2011
    Change the culture? How did the culture change? How did the Eagles do last season? Hmmm, 10-6 and a first round playoff loss. Must be McNabb's fault. Culture change, give me a break.
    mjc1
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:12 PM, 04/25/2011
    Kolb may still play significant time for the Eagles in 2011 if Vick gets hurt (odds are he will). Who knows if Vick will have an injury that misses two games, two months or the IR? We will find out how good of a pick he was soon enough.
    Clt Philly Fan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:21 PM, 04/25/2011
    Let's find out just WHAT transpires with KK before we start grading the papers shall we? And to be realistic about next season-assuming we get to PLAY one-we will NEED a much better O-Line. The "D" is so overmatched right now, that even if we DO get to upgrade one position signifigantly, there are just too many leaks to plug. The answer lies (in my humble opinion) in putting some MORE strength into the Offense. If V-7 can get the kind of time to throw that Mc5 had for all those years....we go to the NFC Championship Game. If our running game gets 23-2400 yards, we go to the Supe. I'll take my chances if we get there!
    TBear
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:22 PM, 04/25/2011
    the pick itself was OK, if that was the time they traded down to let dallas take ware or spencer though I dont know if thats worth it overall. McNabb was old and they needed someone ready to play at anytime. More stupidity is going with another scrambling QB like Vick, instead of actually starting the guy you used that high pick on. Vick is good, but gimmicky, as pocket passers win and have won virtually EVERY SUPERBOWL EVER. Kolb is a pocket passer. Vick is not. Reid is an idiot to go with another scrambling QB that will run around and get injured in his dumb system. REID WILL NEVER WIN THE SUPERBOWL. EVER.
    CharlieGarner25
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:30 PM, 04/25/2011
    By your logic, anyone who bought insurance, but didn't suffer a compensible loss, made a mistake. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Again the Eagles are being criticized for not having a crystal ball with which to predict the future. They did the right thing. Kolb can play. He was a good pick. The Eagles aren't always right, but give credit where credit is due.
    Section 730
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:35 PM, 04/25/2011
    tripleplay83 got it right. Evaluating QB drafts is different than other position players. QBs can only be assessed over time. Using the criteria of MTC or commenters to this column four years after the draft, one would have given thumbs up to the Bengals for the 2003 draft that yielded Carson Palmer. Is that the assessment today?


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