Donovan McNabb on Michael Vick, Eagles' playcalling
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Donovan McNabb on Michael Vick, Eagles' playcalling
Zach Berman, Inquirer Staff Writer
Donovan McNabb critiqued Michael Vick and the Eagles on NFL Network. (Matt Rourke/AP)
Former Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb was on the NFL Network's NFL AM on Monday and discussed the Eagles. He did not say anything inflammatory or that wasn't true, but considering McNabb's history with the Eagles and specifically with this current regime, what he says carries validity. Here are his unedited comments on the Eagles:
On Vick's performance: "I just think it's a bad day at the office. If you look at the preseason, he wasn't able to get into a rhythm and get his feet up under him. This was another preseason game for him. I think Marty Mornhinweg will do a great job for him of getting his feet back under him and getting his confidence back. I thought he lost his confidence throughout that game. Walking off the field with his head down, that's just not like Michael Vick. Michael Vick's a guy who keeps his head up, continues to motivate the rest of the guys. I thought he lost his confidence early, which led to more and more turnovers all throughout the game."
On Vick throwing 56 times: "I think that was just a bad decision overall. I thought they should have ran the ball a little bit more. Shady McCoy did a great job of running the ball with over 120 yards rushing. And whenever you get in that position, you got to take the ball out of his hands and put it into the guy that's hot. If you run the screens, if you're running the ball or if you throw the shovel pass, do something just to get that confidence for Michael Vick. Continue to throw and throw and things aren't going well, you put your team in a bad position."
On whether Vick's performance was a cause for concern: "I don't think it's a cause for concern. I think the most important that we need to focus on is what's going to happen next week. They're playing a tough team with a tough defense next week, and I think now you go into the gameplanning, are we going to throw the ball 30, 40 times, or are we going to set it up with running the ball now. Because I think it's important you find out the mental makeup of Michael Vick this week. You're coming off a four-interception game, now what are you going to expect? Are you going to come back and think you're going to throw your way out of a slump, or just kind of get into a rhythm. I think it's important that Marty Mornhinweg and Andy Reid do a great job of getting his confidence by doing a three-step to five-stop game to get him back on course."
Comments (108)
Insight from a guy who never once took any responsibility for his bad play. Not that he was a bad QB, but he had some rough games and it was never his fault.— Sidewinder7- This comment has been deleted. — The DooDooFresh
- Oh doo doo, still trying to push your racist agenda. I'm white and always was a fan of McNabb, even with his faults.
- This comment has been deleted. — The DooDooFresh
- Well, it could be argued that every time you flap your gums, you "misspeak"...but that's usually the case with racist agendas.
- and yet you'll still have to deal with the fact that McNabb has had more success in the playoffs than any other Eagles QB since 1980. — OurCity2000
- McNabb is right it was just a bad day at the office. McNabb should know, he had about 100 of them when he was with the Eagles. This is the last guy who should be analyzing Michael Vick. McNabb has more excuses for what went wrong with a game than the man in the moon. Remember, he worked for the master of Excuses, Andy REid. What a combo.— rduexpress
- Seems like a lot of guys from Chicago tell us it was not their fault these days — backliner
- SideW; You may be right about him but can you disagree with his assessment? Vick looked like he was without a clue - as if he was rusty and he admitted as much in his newsy after the game. The play calling was awful and stupid esp. since Cleveland has a coach who knows the Iggs tendencies inside out. They cannot play like this next week or it will be 40 - 0.— jjthree
- Vick has been a turnover machine his entire career. Him turning the ball over is nothing new. 4 INTs against a team that is likely at the bottom of the league may be a bad day but 2 INTs and a fumble lost is typical for him against a team like this. — Sidewinder7
- McNabb was maddening at times, and he killed a lot of worms, but he didn't throw 4 interceptions in a month, let alone 1 game
— blaqjaq - Vick has thrown 4 INTs twice in 10 games. McNabb has never thrown 4 INTs in 11 years with the Eagles. — Brizthe1
- I love what Mc5 did for the eagles....will never forget when the offence was all him...nothing from James trash and todd stinkston .....I just assume all the haters are from jersey or the suberbs— ThinkTwice
- Was all him except for his Pro bowl line, RB and TE and Jim Johnson and the defense that carried the team. Don't get me wrong I think he was a good QB but people left to forget the outstanding line he had, Westbrook, Lewis. — Sidewinder7
- Just watched NFL Primetime. They said that RGIII completed his first 8 passes. the first 7 were completions at or behind the line of scrimmage. The Skins knew he would get into a rhythm this way and it worked. The Eagles though, keep having Vick do 47 step drops and he ends up throwing deep into coverage while linemen are in his face. Maybe some adjustments by Andy and a more balanced attack would work best? Oh, but that would require Andy to actually make adjustments.— mikeyhigs
- Vick was 6 for 6 to start the game. the biggest rhythm bust was Shady's fumble and multiple penalties. That is where it started, and he was atrocious from there. He played desperate, and andy and marty did not recognize it until after his 4th interception.
- AR should have gone to the bullpen when Vick's pitch count got that high.— 2ndNlong
- Wow,I feel better now this coming from a choking,gagging dog who never won a thing.Thanks McPuke your the best.Pathetic.— sewell guy
- Yeah! Well, if Mc5 never WON a thing then Buddy Ryan is gas station bathroom scum, Cunningham, Jaworski, Vermeil and BRIAN DAWKINS are all deadbeat pathetic losers who don't deserve any kind of recognition for anything.
and those tards won minus Dawk won less.— OurCity2000 
McNabb > than the trolls who post on here.- Vick is a tiny little dude. He can't see over linemen so Marty calls the rollouts to get him some vision. Which is very troubling because with all that vision he still throws into double and triple coverage. I gotta think that 'dark as night' visor on his helmet is at least partly if not majorly to blame. I know he doesn't want the DBs to lock onto his eyes but really, how is it helping to wear it the way he is now? It's not and may only be hurting. This is ultimately why Foles will be your starter. He is tall enough to see over everyone and get an eyeball on the whole field not just tunnel vision on one slot down the field. I like Vick but his strong suit has been and always will be running and creating havoc for a defense, not as a drop back QB.— Mark1npt
- McNabb at least was way better than Vick.....McNabb at least won many playoff games and even led the Eagles to the SUPER BOWL...Vick has NOT even won a lousy stinkin' playoff game, Vick is a $100 million fraud...LOL— phil500
- phil, why do you keep trashing Vick and then writing "LOL" at the end of your comment? You do know that it means "laughing out loud," right? So do you believe it or not? — dtrain67
- McNabb was dumb for allowing the Eagles to bring Vick onto the team, Lurie and Reid conned and lied to McNabb by falsely telling him Vick was no threat and was only the THIRD STRING QB.....then after one year when Vick got back into shape they dumped McNabb and gave Vick his QB job (Kolb was just a smoke screen, that's why after only 1 game they made Vick the QB)— phil500
- As much as I talk ISH about Donowhine, he speaks truth here. Mike Vick was put in a bad position thanks to Mourn-his-wig and Fat Andy! How the heck do you continue to throw the ball and Shady is just killing the Browns dee on the right side?? In 13 years Andy Bleed still just doesn't get it! You have to game plan and be flexible enough to make in-game changes! not stick with what doesn't work! What an imbecile! GO MIKE VICK GO!— Panthro2011
- McCoy had 20 carries for 110 yards and that's not counting the 5 carries for about 50 yards that were called back because of penalties. It's not like the guy didn't get the ball. Looking at Vick's raw number of throws is misleading. The Eagles had 456 yards on offense (not even counting all the yards they lost on penalties) and the defense kept getting them the ball back. They had a lot of plays...period...more than an average game.— JimG
- It is ironic, while he is correct McNabb never thought the Eagles ran the ball too much when he was the QB even though they did.— Sidewinder7
- then when they asked Shanahan if he designed those short throws for RG3, he said no, He had options but chose to make those plays. And there you have it, you can make many decisions within a play. RG3 played a great game, so skins are no easy win anymore, although they never were, solid D. Vick makes the wrong decisions, time and again, stop making excuses for his poor play. After a game like that, fans still give him a pass, its laughable. What will it take to make you think he plays poorly 6, 7 INTs, maybe 2 or 3 fumbles?— peteike
Anytime I read that McNabb (as and Eagle) or Vick stink, I quickly realize that the person has no clue about NFL football. On their worst day, Vick or McNabb are average. Look at McNabb's final two years, when he wasn't wearing midnight green, that is a bad quarterback. The quarterback has been a strength of this team since McNabb's 2nd year. In fact, if the defense was anything close to the good old days. McNabb would be going to Canton.
— willbert31- McNabb didn't stink, but Vick does. Vick will never be half the QB McNabb was in his prime. And you you really slamming the Jim Johnson defense from when McNabb was the QB? That was a very good defense and had more to due with that team's success then the offense did. — Sidewinder7
- MCnabb should just go away! how vick plsyed yesterday, should have been a violation of his parole! He was terrible! I used to watch games and pray he wouldnt get hurt, yesterday I caught myself hoping that he would get hurt...then came the after game press conference, and I FORGAVE HIM!!!! Y? because Of a decade plus of Mcnabb never taking responsibility, always feeling persectued and always pointing the finger...Vick took it on the chin, and after 10 years of McNabb, I have to respect that!— johnGiam
- RG3 played a depleted and terrible New Orleans defense....Wait till he gets up against a real NFL team defense....Those #s will deteriorate substantially...Redskins are no better than a 6-10 team.— briman
- Regardless that Vick was way off yesterday, it is the coach's responsibility to adjust the game plan. Reid did not change to the run until the last drive (result in TD); and, at that, Vick almost coughed it up on 2 passing plays. Eagles will not win a playoff game until he learns to adjust his game plan to counter adjustments made by the opposing defense. The offense line is average at best and, when the defense knows a passing play is coming, there is little hope the Eagles win the line of scrimmage.— Tom from MD
- I'll never understand those who like Vick more than McNabb. I guess it has to do with personality. But on the field, there is simply no comparison. McNabb was stronger, more accurate, more durable, a better reader of defenses and a better decision maker than Vick will ever be. While he certainly had his deficiencies, McNabb was pretty steady as the Eagles QB -- and on many days he was even great. Vick can be exciting with his feet and occasionally even with his arm, but he is just too inconsistent to be a reliable everyday QB.— HDTV
- Hateeeeeeeer everybody dislike McNabb. you guys forgot that. since McNabb left the town Reid and eagles never won a play off game. and if i m not mistaken McNabb never had a losing season since he took over as eagles QB not as rookie— jkazongo
- who the .... cares what they say in a press conference, or who takes responsibility. Too much is made of that nonsense. Play well on the field during games and when games matter, thats all a fan really cares about.— peteike
- McNabb was right on point with his comments.— kingsolomonsmind
- The Eagles pass too much! Duh!!!— billtfla
- Donovan's absolutely right. Maybe we should have kept him after all...as our head coach.— iceman
- McNabb was right on the money...and love him or hate him, has he really said anything we weren't thinking or already said?— gjgreen3
- He's the best QB in Eagles history. Doesn't matter if you like his personality or not. He's absolutely right about Andy Reid. There's no reason to rage and type insults, when the man is completely right. I swear these Eagles fans on here are like bitter ex-girlfriends. Let it go already.— Joyner80
even for andy reid, i was shocked how much they kept just trying to chuck the ball downfield. no attempt at screens, no runs...just mike vick dropping back 94 steps and throwing it 20 yards every down. reid must have thought he was playing madden or something— AlexSp- actually I think it's refeshing to see McNabb now be able to say what he really thinks...he's basically a good guy (nice guys finish last), a smart guy, who was unfortunately diappointing as a qb--probably has as much or more insight than most of the bozo ex-players on t.v -- and certainly more than most journalists who went into "journalism" when they couldn't get real job and spinning the truth to make excuses for Obama, Amaro, etc— warbiscuit
- AR should bring Foles in at times and put Vick in the`wildcat`.That would add another weapon.— bill the pill
- Hey losers(fans)Mcnabb would be a better QB for you than a dog Killer who can't throw a football. Michael Pick won't last through this season...hope you all are proud of your $100 million dollar LOSER!— MRD
- Vick makes McNabb look like Brady by comparison -- maybe Eagles "plan" is to let Vick get clobbered and when he gets his next long-term inury simply start the Foles era without an official "qb controversy"... obviousy Eagles will never get anywhere with Vick— warbiscuit
- The one thing I don't understand is Reid made the same mistakes of wildly over passing through ALL the years McNabb was here. Why didn't he speak up then or confront the coaches then? Why did he LET Reid not give him receivers for years?
It feels hypocritical, even if correct, coming from him now.— kenkap - Eagles should have done like the Skins or Broncos to do whatever it took to get a guy like Manning or a young franchise qb -- after 10 years it's time to say that Vick will never be a competent NFL qb or even able to stay on the field so for better or worse it's a guarantee that we'll get to see if Foles can indeed be one— warbiscuit
- Whoever is calling the plays should be repalced! If it's Andy give it up to Marty~ If it's Marty, replace him. RUN THE FRICKEN BALL, see what happens. Couldn't be any worse!!!— Beagle Fan
- Is Ed Reed still playing Safety for the Ravens? If he is, chalk him up for 2 or 3 INTs on Sunday.— SteveS11
- Lot of haters for the guy that brought more success to the franchise than any other QB.— bobf876
- McNabb sounded forthright and honest in his assessment of the team. His comments here gave more insight on his take of the game, more so then any comment he gave before or after any Eagles game in his entire tenure here. I was not expecting this from him, but better late then never. He just might be a great NFL analyst given time and more comments like this.— DelawareRiverRat
- Donovan McNabb holds just about every Eagles career and season QB record; his career interception rate is the 4th lowest in NFL history (behind only Aaron Rodgers, Neil O'Donnell, and Tom Brady). In fact, of his eleven seasons with the Eagles, in six of them he had less than ten interceptions. He had zip talent around him other than Brian Westbrook and TO (for one fabulous year). Yet you hater/losers still are all over him. He didn't win a Super Bowl...just like every other QB in Eagles' history; maybe it was something more than him?— chesapeake
- Gotta take the haters with a grain of salt. Sure, McNabb was more interested in inflating his numbers and extolling that squeaky clean image of his than winning the big one. At the same time, it's not all his fault...look who is coaching, and still coaching though he should not be.
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Reid has not learned one damn thing; Marty won't question him, no one there will question Reid because as underlings, they are beholden to Reid for their jobs. Even if they believe in what Andy's doing, it's no use.
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Okay, I said I wanted McCoy to get 20 touches, and he got them. Great; they needed to do more as the game unfolded and got to the end of it all. Keep the ball on the ground and in the hands of someone who won't cough it up or try a triple backflip and land on his index finger while flinging the ball into the stratosphere hoping Maclin will catch it.
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Figure it out yet, folks?
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I did see some good things from the defense, and I thought on the whole they didn't do too bad a job. Youth in abundance, but they'll improve.
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Meanwhile...Reid is going to give away game after game with this idiotic offense and Vick at the helm. Foles might make better decisions, but he's still a rookie.
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This is gonna be bad; I'll let the rest of the "Iggles" fans (LEARN HOW TO SPELL, YOU ILLITERATE JERKS) talk about how great it's gonna be...— MidStaterUXB - no player did more for a franchise then Mcnabb...From qb, to LIncoln financial field worm exterminator. Has their ever been a better leader then Mcnabb? hahaha...of course Mcnabb never threw a pick, how could he? he never took a chance in his entire career.
As for vick, Im tired of the video game QB. Even when I play Madden, I know that If I pass the ball every single time, the defense catches on and it doesnt work any more.How doesnt andy realize this lol? In any battle, you attack your opponents weakness...and when you got shady who chews up 5-12 yards every single time he touches the ball, and the opponent is weak against the run..how is yesterdays gameplan acceptable? it was honestly borderline MORONIC, and Im an Andy reid supporter. It feels to me that yesterdays gameplan was a total disrespect of an opponent. I feel like they treated the game like a preseason game to get Vick ready. My gameplan would have honestly been: Pound shady on 1st down, pound Bryce on 2nd down, pound shady on 3rd down (if its long then give shady a screen)...rinse, wash and repeat! and after a little pounding, the play action deep ball to desean becomes utterly unstoppable and they can score with it at will. This looks to much like a video game offense, with no rythm. I feel like I want Foles in there for the simple fact that andy would actually change the gameplan so that it helps the rookie...which means a balanced attach. Its obvious, he wont do that with Vick...so get the rookie in so that we can atleast get real football from the QB and the coach. Props to George Lopez for running a good defense yesterday— johnGiam - Did McNabb talk about how RG111 succeeded yesterday under Shannahans system in Washington, and own up to the fact that he didn't play well in his short stay in Washington?— watsonmr
- I am happy to see McNabb has a job. He did make a few good points. I could see the game was not a thing of beauty, just like some other posters. The thing is, they WON...it's the NFL, the other teams have players, and coaches who can do some things. I am happy to see the Ravens are coming. They won't run the ball well, they can't protect Flacco vs the Eagle rush. With Nagata missing and Lewis getting old, Shady will run all over them. Vick wasn't ready, he didn't play in the preseaon much. He still hung in there and led them on the last drive to a win. I expect he will be much better in the weeks to come. It would be a good idea to protect him better. Mudd needs to coach Bell up, and fast.— Paul SoTX
- McNabb was a better QB than Vick has ever been. As a person Vick isn't good enough to lick McNabb's (or any other average person's) shoes. Vick was 1 and 4 against Jim Johnson's D (0-2 playoffs) with McNabb under center (1 and 5 overall (Matt Ryan lost one).— KINGOFZED
- Whoever is calling the plays is awful. No focus on exposure to hits and no getting Vick to protect self, Slide? 20 carries for one of the best backs in the league.— LaCroix,Nolet,Gendron
- McNabb is a classy guy. All of this hateration is unnecessary. He was objective and he could have brutally negative, but he was not. This man gave us 5 NFC East Championships. He did not win the superbowl but tried to represent Philly in a positive way. When I travel to other cities during football season, football fans are not putting down McNabb; they criticize the fans how they treat their star players.— rev
If you disagree with McNabb, then you are OK with another mediocre 8-8 season led by Fat Andy and the pass first offense. Are you not tired of this...we barely beat the Browns - oh geez.- Good honest analysis of what occurred and people jump all over DM.
MV is nowhere the QB that DM was and he was asked his opinion and he gave it truthfully.So many haters on these boards.— HO HUM - Can we move on from this loser? Who cares about Mcnabb's opinion on anything!— Imbaldy
- "Continue to throw and throw when things aren't going well you put your team in a bad position" Reid used this exact philosophy when he benched McNabb after the Baltimore game. Reid clearly didn't learn anything from that just like Vick didn't learn anything from throwing into triple coverage. Inability to adapt is fatal for both
- The point is shady ran the ball just fine but you can't let him have a 30 touch game all the time so that's when you get bryce brown going. We need to run the ball !!! there is no reason why Vick or any QB should be allowed to throw that many times when clearly the line was not holding up— Yes_General
- This just in....the Eagles won the game on Sunday. That is all.— MrPhilly
- The hate on McNabb and Vick is unbelievable. I understand Vick haters (though I don't agree with it), but I will never, ever get the Donovan haters. Disappointment, yes. Hate, no.— andrewfrombrooklyn
- The issue here is NOT Donovan McNabb - THE ISSUE IS WHOLE HORRIBLE MIKE VICK IS AND HOW DISGUSTING HIS LOVE-FEST WITH ANDY REID IS!!! Honestly, we have seen enough, it is time for the Eagles brass to grow a set of balls and get rid of both of them!!! VICK and REID both NEED TO GO!!! I cannot another dreadful performance like Sunday's game again!!!— i.dislike.sue.e.martin.brogan.endress
- If I am correct McNabb took this team to five NFC Championships and one super bowl. Name any other eagle QB with those credentials. The eagles are doing te same to vick that it did to McNabb and Cunningham. Vick's strength is running, they should have him roll out and then have the option of running the football or passing it. They also could run the ball a little more, they have a pro bowl running and three capable backups, use them.— gwilli1234
- Well, I disagree with Donovan's observation that Marty Morningweig will help Vick; much like the incorect decision to try to fashion Donovan to be a pocket passer (happy feet) where he should have been allowed to be a roll out QB, Marty should have a fullback in at all times to not only block for Shady but give Vick an extra 1.8 seconds to pass as Vick has demonstrated his ability to complete any pass given some time to make the pass - no offense Marty but you have got to go. Give Vick time and he'll make the pass!— juggy gales
- Nice analysis.— jimphilly5
- Not bad for McNabb. He actually said something rather than "blah, blah, blah ..."— petergou
- McNabb still with his classic "cliche answers" got that from Andy
Reid 101. At least now when McNabb is on the NFL Network I can
just change the channel, the guy with his monotone voice is
about as exciting as listening to water drop from a faucet.
At least Sterling Sharp and Brian Baldinger are exciting, with
McGoo it's like watching paint dry.— mikey48 - imbaldy, who cares about your opinion. Buddy F'n Ryan is loved in this town yet he didn't care about the Offense or won a friggin' playoff game. DMac is the greatest QB in Eagles history and all without having a real #1 WR most of his career.— palmyra21
- Some of the posts have just been idiotic including the racist ones. The facts are simple. The offensive game plan was horrible. with an all-pro runner and an opponent who was terrible against the run, how can anyone pass 56 times? Also, Vick's performance should be a great reason to be concerned considering his poor season last year. He has poor pocket awareness, holds on to the ball too long, and continues to make rookie mistakes. Andy has to plan a more balanced offense to take some of the pressure off of Vick.— Drumgoole
- Wow, some of you so called fans just don't get it... Mcnabb was one of the best QBs in Eagles history... He was consistent and even played hurt, yes he had his bad games as all QBs do, Favre and Brady have had bad games with 4+INTs… What about Marino ?? Great guy, Great QB, lots of records and one SB appearance in his second year., pretty ,much nada after that, even though he had the running game and receivers.. Love the Eagles, but some of you whiny a** fans need to get a clue. You have the reputation to be harsh and some (not all) make yourselves sound so stupid trying to carry on the reputation. Pretty embarrassing if you ask me… This does not apply to the knowledgeable and good fans.. Just you idiots… You know who you are...— 3starcorners
Reading these comments, one thing every fail minded man can conclude is that the "hope and change" for a "post-racial" society was nothing more than a deceitful political ploy.
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- We'll never get to a "post-racial" society living under this stratospheric economic system, where society actually competes with each other over resources in order to survive and thrive - "survival of the fittest"...nevermind the fact that we have an overabundance of resources.
Living under these backward conditions & theories, God could be the POTUS and we would still have racism. - By setting up an economic system more powerful than the divine, you betray a complete ignorance of God.
Well done, Junior.
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- Apparently your not comprehending, Clown. My suggestion is to set up an economic system based on logic - ie., looking for the most economic way to distribute the resources available to the people the economy is set up for - as opposed to an economic system that is set up to keep the powerful, powerful.
My apologizes if you actually took the God reference literally... - Dodo fresh is a moron who hides behind a computer to dish out his racist BS.— cupper
- That's the one thing that McNabb did good, he didn't throw interceptions, he threw the ball away in to the ground. Vick might want to do that.— dwilly
- Hard to step up in the pocket when it is always collapsing. The offensive line will get pushed around all year. What will Baltimore do to them???— DrewD
- I see there are still some of these rediculous nonsense "dog killer" statements roaming through these blogs. Get over that at some point, and stop acting as though you all care som much for dogs, when all it is is that y'all just care so much to just hate at Vick (someday ya'll may admit it). Look around the city and see all the HUMAN lives being lost, and wonder why there is no action or venom being spewed about that. I like dogs, I have one myself, and many of you may take this personal, but I am not juping into raging waters or into a burning building to get one. And many of you won't either, regardless of what you might want to act like.— hawaiiphillyfan
- The play calling was enough to make McNabb want to puke...not that that's a high bar.— 2ndNlong
- McDunce is too stupid to put those comments together himself....he read it from the teleprompter since it was written by the staff at the NFL Network.....— SkipinWV
- Go PHILLIES— Mystified
- The Soviets had a system as you discribe.......it's called socialism....and communial-ism. Go figure. Is this a sports page of a religious, socio-economic page?— Mystified
- Sorry, but "socialism" & "communial-ism" aren't even close to what I'm describing.
Funny how out of all the non-sports related topics being touched on in this thread - racism being the most obvious - you choose to attack my post about trying to make the world a better place...yet, not a peep out of you about the racist hatred. Funny thing...
- Say what you will, but if you saw that Ravens game last night, you saw a well prepared well coached team, that is the way to begin a season heading for the super bowl, not on your knees being beaten up by a bottom dweller, unable to pick up a blitz while your quarterback is being driven into the ground. Don't blame it all on Vick, as the team demonstrated a total lack of discipline which led to over one hundred yards in penalties is totally inexcusable. And you are hearing all of this from a life long Eagles fan, aaarrrggghhh !— rfitz
- The job is beyond Vick's ability to handle it. He is like a pitcher who lost his confidence to throw strikes. At the pro level he should be leading his team, not having the coaching staff design plays to restore his confidence . His style of play is frantic in almost all situations. He is not getting better as a player...he is losing it,
He is too small to play this game at his position. It seems pretty obvious that Vick is no longer the player teams have difficulty defending against. Blitz, blitz and blitz some more to force Vick into his frantic style and bad decision making and the game is yours. Vick doesn't have the where-with-all late in games to figure things out ... Probably due to all the hits he is taking. He looked lost but determined to overcome.
I don't think we fans are wrong for calling for his head after only one game. We just know that your not going to win a championship with this guy at the helm. It's a shame to waste a season with all the talent surrounding Vick. He is not becoming a better player. He is shell-shocked,— fafink - Doesn't mcnabb's father have to give preliminary instructions regarding his son before mcnabb speaks?— anti-tax
- JohnGiam....you need a history lesson, son. Go check out how many deep balls Dmac threw and get back to me. Didn't take chances? Puuuleeeeease..
The rest of you D5 haters really need to let it go, man. Until we have a qb break his records, you all need to just stfu. You sound like complete idiots beyond belief. Vick can't even hold D5's jockstrap. Foles? We'll see. Again, break his records, take us to....how many NFC title games was that again? In a row no less? As Ditka would say...."Stop It"— philly449 - SkipinWV....can't stand it, can you?! An educated black man with a prime-time job, who makes more in one year than you would in 10 lifetimes!
Poor Skip....must suck being an arrogant bigot. Your comments haven't changed in years....still stuck, huh hillbilly?— philly449 - Don would have won a Super Bowl if he had any wide receivers!— KOOLK777
- McNabb finished with a TD/INT ratio of 2:1. That's very good, along with almost 38,000 passing yards. Yes, I know he had a great RB in Westbrook and a pretty good offensive line, but many years he was throwing to James Thrash, Torrance Small, Freddy Mitchell, Freddy Millons, Irving Fryar, Hank Baskett, Jason Avant, Kevin Curtis, etc. In 2004 he had T.O, the year the Eagles lost to the Pats by 3 points in the Super Bowl. In 2008 he had DeSean Jackson as a rookie and 2009 the Eagles added Jeremy Maclin. If your counting the years he had at least 1 decent WR, I would say it was 3 years: 2004, 2008 & 2009. Suffice to say McNabb didn't have decent receivers for 7 out of his 10 years as a starting QB for the Eagles (he began as a started in 2000). To really make a QB great, he needs good receiving options, adequate OL, and decent RB. Even Tom Brady had more decent receiving options than McNabb for most of his career, plus a much better head coach.— sbmedlg
- I forgot to mention a few things:
1) Irving Fryar was not on the roster when McNabb was QB
2) Other "prolific" WRs that McNabb threw to in the those 10 years included: James Thrash, Antonio Freeman, Greg Lewis, Reggie Brown, and Donte Stallworth.— sbmedlg - McNabb couldnt read defenses or blitz coverages either. Maybe if they had a coach in the Armani store he would have gone to Canton one day.— sammydelphia
- Mcnabb has had a billion of these kinds of games where he threw the ball 60 times but the difference between Vick and Mcnabb is that Mcnabb was so inaccurate that it was impossible to catch interceptions from him. Mcnabb have sent earthworms to the probowl for catching hell. Vick on the other hand throws an accurate pass and the biggest difference between the two as far as outcome is that Vick threw the winning pass to an eagles reciever when it counted while Mcnabb threw the winning pass to the other team to end the game. Thats the difference between heart and talk.— Zeru
- mcnabb and vick are one in the same; neither one of them could read a defense and both of them hold on to the ball too long.they dont have the intelligence to run the west coast offense.its time to cut our losses with vick and put foles in, we dont need to wait too long like we did with mcnabb.by the way ,i am a black man who calls it like i see it.— swgaston49
- About as black as uncle ruckus...— Zeru
- You guys are funny. You can't compare McNabb to Vick. Vick's offense today is way better than anything McNabb played with except maybe the T.O. year. Even with that he had to win two playoff games without him. McNabb made Chad Lewis a pro bowler. That said McNabb has never looked as bad as Vick did throwing clearly into double and triple coverage and on top of everything he never wants to throw the ball away. He's like everyone who plays Madden just hold the ball and hope something good happens. He better get it together this week. I'm tired of all you fake fans, do we have a Superbowl no but Reid and McNabb returned our team to it's winning ways. You would rather have Buddy Ryan and a good defense with no playoff wins then a good time. SHUT UP and let's just see what happens.— Brizthe1
- Whose office was McNabb referring to: Vick, Dunlap, Watkins, Mathis, Kelce, Herremans, Mudd, Mornhinweg, Reid? I'd start at the top!— tcollins99
- @Briz.. You are right.. Mcnabb had all day to sit in the pocket. Vick on the other hand better run as soon as he hikes the ball. Did he have weapons? Of course L J smith was pretty good and westbrook wasnt a bad checkdown option. T.O is probably the second greatest reciever of all time regardless of how people feel about him as a person. Truth is Vick doesnt have on Tra Thomas or John Runyan on that offensive line. He's got a bunch of castaway's, castoffs, 6th rounders and then Todd Herreman who is the best thing on the line. If Mcnabb had this line he would have been even less accurate.— Zeru
- Thinktwicw,,, Sooo true,, no QB in Eagles history did as much for this team,,,NONE.
A little coaching and we could have had one.— phillyroni - JJ defense was overrated. Arizona championship game. Eagles take the lead and the legendary defense can't hold it. Same in the Super Bowl. JJ was a great DC and got the most of the talent that he had. But that D failed in two of the biggest games Period.— oldBird
- The coaching was horrendous. Sticking to their gameplan. Ugh. We've seen it before. Weird how so many are hating on the greatest QB in Eagles history. If it weren't for Hank Fraley being utterly unable to block Tedy Brusci and Richard Seymour and the coaches being unable to adjust to Fraley getting beat and McNabb getting PUMMELED we'd have a Super Bowl title.
The problem this week is that the Eagles are facing a team that's hard to run against and harder to throw against. This is a week made for WCO dink and dunk and Shady hitting the edges. We're going to need to employ three backs and make heavy use of TEs. And there's a lot of risk on injury. The Eagles need to find short sideline routes that work for DeSean.— HeelYes - I don't have any issue with any statement above, in fact I can only agree and hope that McNabb is spot on. Plus, is the "we" reference a Freudian sport slip...I think yes! Always have loved what #5 did for this team, he should be recognized for his accolades than his slip-ups.— IGGLES1980
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