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Tuesday, April 21, 2009

 

Cornerback Sheldon Brown, still plenty steamed about his contract situation, said this morning that he knows he's not the only player on the Eagles' roster feeling underpaid and underappreciated.
 
"Without a doubt there are going to be more problems," Brown said this morning. "I'm not the first guy and I'm not going to be the last guy. What's the incentive for guys like Trent Cole and Mike Patterson to play above their heads? Everybody's situation is different and everybody handles their business in a different way. This situation could have been handled in a different way. I was forced to put it out there."
 
The veteran cornerback said his decision to go public with his trade request and contract dispute was triggered by team president Joe Banner's unwillingness to recognize that a dispute existed.
 
"Joe did an interview with 610 (WIP) and he said my contract has not been presented as an issue," Brown said. "I take that personal. My agent (Jason Chayut) has been talking to him for four months. (Banner) was throwing him off to some guy I don't even know."
 
Chayut, according to Brown, was told to talk to Andrew Brandt, who was hired by the Eagles this offseason to help with salary-cap matters.
 
Brown said his invitation to go public about his dispute came when Banner said Sunday that he had contacted the Buffalo Bills about the availability of Jason Peters while the left tackle was in the midst of a holdout from training camp last summer.
 
"What's my only option?" Brown said. "That's my key to the exit. Joe was going to deny until he dies there is not a problem. He forced my hand to make a statement and make a statement in a strong way. It has been like a slap in the face."
 
Brown also addressed the predictable backlash from some fans who are upset that a person making $2 million next season can complain about their contract in these troubled economic times.
 
"Everybody is saying this is only about the money and that I don't know what's going on in the world," Brown said. "Don't you think I have family members who live in the real world? Don't you think I have family that has struggled in this recession? I'm not worried about how people feel about me. When I'm done playing football, I'm going back to South Carolina and I won't have to listen to 610 (WIP) or Joe Banner. Everybody has the right to their opinion, but if you think it's about the money, you're crazy."
 
Brown acknowledged that the six-year contract extension he signed in 2004 was a fair deal, but he said the economic climate of the NFL changed drastically with a new collective bargaining agreement in 2006.
 
"When I did the deal, I knew it was a good deal," he said. "Nobody could anticipate that the CBA was going to go up 40 to 50 percent. Nobody wants to talk about the owners being billionaires and how they won't open their books."
 
Brown said his current salary ranks 36th among NFL cornerbacks, but it wasn't clear if he was talking about this year's salary or the average value of his deal. He said he's not trying to become the highest-paid cornerback in the game.
 
"It's not like I'm trying to get near the top of the tier," Brown said. "I want them to pay me somewhere in the middle of the pack."
 
The Eagles, in a statement yesterday, said they have no intention of reworking Brown's deal or trading him. So where does that leave the cornerback? Will he boycott the mandatory camp scheduled to begin May 1? Will he boycott the voluntary camps later this spring? Will he hold out of training camp? His hope remains that the Eagles will trade him this weekend, which is an unlikely scenario.
 
Brown said he's flying back to his home in South Carolina Thursday.
 
"I have considered (holdouts)," he said. "I'll deal with that stuff when it comes around. I'm really not in the right state of mind to talk about it right now. I didn't want it to get to this point. I tried to handle this in a professional way."
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Posted 02:35 PM, 04/22/2009
essell
"Don't you think I have family members who live in the real world? Don't you think I have family that has struggled in this recession? I'm not worried about how people feel about me." pardon me Mr. Brown, but at two (2) million bucks a year, you shouldn't have ANY family members "struggling" during this "recession". I'm talking IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS. NOT extended family (Cousin Bob, Aunt Tilly, Uncle Billy, Nephew Willie). ANd your support of your family should make you a killing in refunds at tax time.
Posted 08:34 AM, 04/22/2009
EL Zorro
Ok, so it’s management honoring a contract when they release a player? A team can cut any player that they think is not playing up to the money he is making. In the other hand, if a player signs a contract, plays at a high level, and down the road he thinks is being underpaid under the current market - in Sheldon's case backup Joselio Hanson is set to make more than him this season- is he out of line? Think about it. Management can just void a contract and a player cannot ask to renew his? You can have it both ways.
Posted 04:39 AM, 04/22/2009
mike35e
"Joe was going to deny until he dies there is not a problem." Joe's going to deny there is NOT a problem? Doesn't that mean Joe believes there is a problem? Free college degree and didn't take advantage of it. "I'm really not in the right state of mind to talk about it right now." If he were in the right state of mind he wouldn't be crying about making $2 million a year to play football.
Posted 01:36 AM, 04/22/2009
scam
Again I'll say when is 25 mil disrespecting you? What has he done anyway? Got undressed by Fitz to lose us the title game? He is living on one hit he made. He never could cover and can't now. Where does he rank in the league in INTs? Passes defended? Tackles? I am sure the Eagles know. Don't like Philly? Maybe you should move to Detroit. Man up and play. You signed the contract.. C YA
Posted 12:40 AM, 04/22/2009
Bumr50
I absolutely LOVE the fact that there are no guranteed contracts in the NFL. It's kinda like real life, and what makes it much more appealing. Bloated unions suck. Thank God you can't buy yourself a good football team.
Posted 12:02 AM, 04/22/2009
jonnyb0916
Brown has definitely stepped over the line. Don't call out your other teammates and get them involved in your dirty laundry. Maybe Banner didn't mention anything on WIP because he would prefer to deal with such issues in house? You happily signed the extension, now play it out and stop whining like a little girl.
Posted 11:48 PM, 04/21/2009
SlinkTMP
Disrespect. The Eagles always get plastered by the fans and everyone has short memories. Didn't Trot get "disrespected" to and blast the organization??? Of yeah. Bad organization. Amazing how the disrespectful team signed him and saved his career after the mess in D.C. I actually felt bad for D.C. (not really) for the great player we all killed the organization for letting leave and he played that bad there. Oh yeah... money came into that too. That was the SAME front office... but he loved them when the moneyyyy..... Oops, respect came rolling in again. Football is business. They judge it by revenues, we judge it by Superbowls. The Eagles will continue to give us a successful team, and if they step in SH@* one day and win a championship, they will say that is what they are trying to do. Bull! The players are about the money also, not championships. Sheldon and the Eagles just prove this point.
Posted 11:34 PM, 04/21/2009
SlinkTMP
Wait... another point..... Disrespected!? Sheldon had no problem bringing other players into his cause today, so lets do the same. They disrespected Lito last year when Samuels came in. They showed Sheldon lots or respect. He kept his job and the pro bowler, Lito, sat the bench and underperformed. They instantly respected his talent to put him with their new CB, Samuels. They respected his professionalism. You wnat to know what happened.... His boy Lito said "man, it is nice. I bought a new mansion up here with this Jets money and it makes the old one look like a shack. The new rides are sweet too. The Bling-bling is great too. It is nice with this new contract. Why are you not doing this too? Man you can buy a lot more when you get a raise and the everyday consumer isn't buying stuff. They give it away to make a sale." That is reality. Lets see.... Taylor- disrespected, went to a franchise worse than the Eagles and never played like he did here. Vincent- See Taylor but he played a little better. Douglas- Stop it. He stole money in Jax. T.O.- So how did Dallas do with him? Good luck Buffalo (see a trend with Buffalo?) Corey Simon- Went to a great team but he did ZERO for it. Wellborn--- laughable about what he did in KC. Stole money too. And then we have Trotter: I will post new for this one.
Posted 11:27 PM, 04/21/2009
Claudio Vernight
I think it's a weak individual who tries to drag in so-called disgruntled, but nameless, teammates. Since when did Brown become an agent for anyone? He's in a weak position and wants to drag some other guys into the discussion as if that strenghtens his case. He needs to be somewhere else -- fast.
Posted 11:26 PM, 04/21/2009
petergou
They all need to play out their contracts. Period. I hope there's a NFL strike after next year and the owners put it to the players. They players don't OWN football. Look at Gretzky, Lemieux, Jordan and other players from others sports who became owners . . did they give all the proceeds to players, did they share profits, did they give in to player CBAs? Love to see some players buy a team and see how they manage the financials . . . that would be hilarious . . .
Posted 11:21 PM, 04/21/2009
petergou
How many losers support Sheldon "Cry Baby" Brown? Three in this entire thread all day?
Posted 11:08 PM, 04/21/2009
SlinkTMP
I agree. Didn't Andrews not appear fo camp and he never told his bosses where he was? If I didn't show for work I would be fired. He showed up and they supported him. He raved about how the Eagles are so supportive with his ordeal. Right. That is a great point merlinknghts! Everuone forgets when the Eagles offered a contarct extension to Dawk 2 years ago, when everyone blasted the Eagles then because they almost didn't do it. Look, the Eagles are arrogant. So is just about every CEO of every major organization. This is not about one organization. This is about one player believing his agent's BS (Lito) and starting an infection because he fed it to everyone else. I did not see any of them stop the others (Paterson, Sheldon, etc...) before they signed these contract extensions. Greed. It is greed, plain and simple. the best part is both sides, and the agents, spinning it. The player ties to spin it as the working man fighting the system. The agent spis it as the man nt treating us with professional respect. The organization spins it showing they have the power, and they do. We need to stop supporting this stuff. The NFL needs a wake-up call like MLB had after their strike.
Posted 10:57 PM, 04/21/2009
merlinknghts
Sports Life..yea ,,,right...Andrews sits out all 2007 with "emotional problems" and the FO stuck by him..no loyalty??? which way loyalty are we discussing here...Andrews needs to shut up and play a full year..then we'll see.....
Posted 10:51 PM, 04/21/2009
SlinkTMP
ILUVPHILLYCITYOFLOSERS.... come on. First off... I believe the Phillies are world champs. Second, you spend time reading Philly sites. So who is the loser? We are not saying that we can physically or mentally do what they do. There vare others that can though. We are saying that any job has bosses and owners. They have the money (if you don't like it, leave capitalism) and the other try to get it by working for them so they make more... or you wait for the government to get it from them and you get handed some scraps. The Eagles offered him a contarct so they would all be set for life. Did the system change? Doesn't the salary go up for players every year (Thank players association and agents for making these public so they can make more money too). The players are pawns and the agents feed them this stuff. If he had a career ending injury last year, he took the money up front to get paid. You know who wins!? the agents. He ADVISED Sheldon to take the deal, now he is advising the other way. He is a 30 year old corner wanting to get one more check. Sit him and draft a replacement. oh yeah... boo-hoo. That will mean no players will want to come here. OH WELL. Come work 2 jobs to make ends meet, pay mortgage, daycare, buy food in this economy. After reading this article, I do not feel bad for the Eagles (how can you) or the player. I fell bad for us, the consumer. We lose. THis really turns my stomach. This is not an Eagles issue (look around). it is a pro sports issue. Guess what people. the Eagles owners are supposed to be rich.... they own a team. They did not get there by giving away their cash. if you do nt like the system, don't support them or buy their product. Change the culture. If the teams start losing money and the players are scared for the jobs, like us the working Joes, the system will change and both sides will pay for their arrogance... but I suspect we will still buy into this stuff.
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Posted 10:12 PM, 04/21/2009
chollie
send them all to Detroit
Posted 09:07 PM, 04/21/2009
petergou
Also, that you speak for others on your team is so immature . . . be a man, only talk for yourself, let the other men on your team deal with their own issues as professionals should. Act like a man, BE A MAN, not a spoiled overpaid kid . . .
Posted 09:02 PM, 04/21/2009
petergou
Brown has been anything but professional. Too bad, because he's a good, NOT great, player. NFL players are way overpaid, especially rookies. I can't even be bothered with their pseudo-woes of trouble . . . the average fan is going to feel sorry for a millionaire? Sheldon, go home, talk only for yourself and not for team mates, and keep a low profile. If you were a pro, you'd apologize, keep to your contract, and play . . .
Posted 08:43 PM, 04/21/2009
TMF
... and on top of everything that everyone has been saying, sheldon brown does not have the "right" to get a new contract just because westbrook got a new contract. Westbrook is irreplaceable on our team, Sheldon is not. Peters and Samuels situations are meaningless. They did not sign a deal with us and ask to renegotiate. Start Joselio and Assante for sure and at best, make Brown the nickel. If we find someone on waiver wire or a standout in camp, push Brown further down the line. See if that helps him get a new contract next year.
Posted 08:21 PM, 04/21/2009
yescadog
Shut your big mouth and play. The fact that you, and you alone, made the decision to sign a muli year deal worth a total of 21 million dollars should be enough for you to give it your all. Guess what Sheldon, salaries over time increase, no matter what business you are in. What do you think my boss would say if after two years of my six year contract I told him that I wanted to rip up my contract and do a new deal. I would be told to either shut my mouth and work hard or take a hike. I wish I could have signed a contract that would have paid me seven million guaranteed along with six years at an average of three million plus per year. You could have gotten hurt after game one and still kept that seven million. You are a spoiled punk. I have lost all respect for you and your kind.
Posted 08:10 PM, 04/21/2009
nicolosi54
These idiots are famous for saying its a business, but the schmucks don't quite understand the business. Maybe they should have spent some of their time in college actually getting an education.
Posted 07:27 PM, 04/21/2009
mmmikey
"Nobody could anticipate that the CBA was going to go up 40 to 50 percent. Nobody wants to talk about the owners being billionaires and how they won't open their books." Sheldon, you and the other players are employees. You want to open the owners books? Get rich. Buy a team. And open your own books. Of course if you did buy a team, I bet you would be carrying around dead cap space like it was going out of style.
Posted 06:32 PM, 04/21/2009
beerman37
I'd sit this whiner on the bench and let him rot
Posted 06:20 PM, 04/21/2009
A92coupe
Let's see, Sheldon is complaining, Dawkins is gone, Lito is gone, Tra is gone! I think it's about time we do start looking at this a different way! These are for the mostpart upstanding players with very good characters! I think the least that could have been done is treat them with respect to listen to their issues! Lurie has made alot of money at the expense of these players and they should be rewarded in some type of way!! Banner is a no hearted money machine that has these players by the throat! I don't like the way this is headed!!
Posted 06:17 PM, 04/21/2009
jkidd49
Cry me a fricken river... You and your agent took the early money and ran. Deal with it and save your tears for when you run back home to S.C.
Posted 06:14 PM, 04/21/2009
chucksf
When anyone says that it isn't about the money, we all know that it is about the money. When anyone starts a sentence with the word "Frankly" or "To tell the truth", we all know that that person has been lying about everything he has been saying. Of course it is about MONEY and Sheldon is a liar. Let's look at his contract. He got a 7.5 million signing bonus. If, he was smart enough to invest it, even in a really safe 5% fixed income stream like bonds or muni-bonds, he would have an extra $375,000. per year, certainly enough for 99% of Americans to live comfortably. These crybabies who whine about their multi-million dollar salaries, they ought to come down to my neighborhood so we can show them what real life is all about. All these guys know that, in general, salaries always go up. Compare what the present guys make compared to the guys who played in the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. DUH!!!!! They have to know that any contract signed several years ago will not measure up to a current contract. DUH!!!!! I find it interesting how all the crybabys try to blame someone else. We are ALL responsible for our own actions. Too bad the crybabys (Sheldon, Lito, McCrybaby)never think that is true, they always think it is someone elses fault.
Posted 06:01 PM, 04/21/2009
RealFan10
Sheldon, you signed a contract. Shut-up and play!
Posted 05:55 PM, 04/21/2009
ILUVPHILLYCITYOFLOSERS
Pay em and move on....How come all you self righetous a holes weren't declaring "A CONTRACT IS A CONTRACT IS A CONTRACT" with Westbrook. It all comes down to current market value. I fhis current value is significantly higher than his deal then he has leverage to make noise and either get paid or traded, if not then he doesn't pure economics......also for all you dopes that can't understand and are upset because these guys (the best athletes in the world)make millions heres the challenge....sign up for the next combine and if you hit 4.4 and bench 225 (35) times then you qualify for a couple million....dopes dopes dopes dopes......don't understand simple economics....and the eagles hard headed hardline "we dont renegotiate" stance has cost them w's......its also hypocritical considering they did renegotiate westbrook and will probably do 5 too....ILUVPHILLYCITYOFCHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!!
Posted 05:40 PM, 04/21/2009
sprew
Handled professionally? Laughable at best. Get over yourself dude. You signed a contract, deal with it.
Posted 05:35 PM, 04/21/2009
PEFF
outoftown, NICE
Posted 05:34 PM, 04/21/2009
drnnat
Immaturity has a heavy price. Brown MAY be worth more than he's getting paid. But signing a 2 mil a year contract with a 7 Mil signing bonus is not chump change. While I resent Laurie and Banner for not paying the big debt they owe the City, I also resent the young athletes that dont respect a contract unless they're always on the winning end.
Posted 05:33 PM, 04/21/2009
LGbalsac
This is what turns people off to sports. Sheldon shut up and stop talking for other players. Be a man and stop laughing at those who are out of work. That is what you are doing by thinking you are underpaid. I hope you tear an ACL and can never play again, you whiny little B.
Posted 05:32 PM, 04/21/2009
Jack Hammer
send him to Al Davis, he will make his money and miss the playoffs so he can go right to South Carolina after the regualar season.
Posted 05:25 PM, 04/21/2009
M60tanker
Wow! Unbelieveable how this is developing... Sheldon crying about feeding his family - come on. try living like the average Joe in Pa and Jersey and trying to survive in these economic times. Sheldon is becoming a cancer to the locker room. Only way to get rid - is cut it out. i.e. get him out of town and let him crawl back to South Carlina... He certainly has lost the faith of this city. To bad training camp isn't soon when "WE" can express our feelings directly to him!
Posted 05:20 PM, 04/21/2009
dooger
You know. I haven't listened to WIP in thirty-two years. He's not missing much.
Posted 05:20 PM, 04/21/2009
jnyfive
Billionaire owners cant just throw money around because of salary caps. On top of that, athletes live in another universe. First they sign deals then want to rework them and they think they can win public sympathy. It begs to wonder if 1 year contracts is the way to go. You play it out and if you do well you get more next year, if you do bad you get less. The only people that get upset are the ones who sign deals and can't find the better loopholes. Owners and players sign CBAs and contracts. Then, each side tries to build leverage and support for their cause. The ones that win see no problem and the ones who loose have issues with everyhing... THAT THEY PUT THEIR NAME TO. You dig yourself a hole then you have to lie in it... no one is happy 4 years after they sign a deal because they KNOW things are different.
Posted 05:18 PM, 04/21/2009
OUTOFTOWN
STOP THIS NONSENSE RIGHT NOW.....Make an example of Brown and tell him he is now the third string CB and that he will never be traded or given a raise as long he is under contract!! Make him run at practice...all practice!! Move his locker right next to the toilets!! Take his number from him!! Do whatever they can in their power to make him miserable and don't budge one inch!!
Posted 05:16 PM, 04/21/2009
crohnkiller
First, I live in the town where Shelden Brown is from..Fort Lawn, SC. There is 24% unemployment here. Sheldon has a home in Tega Cay, an upscale community just south of Charlotte. Yes, he IS about money now. his parents still live in Fort Lawn, why didn't he just buy a home near them? Because he likes showing off in Tega Cay. Now I am from Philly, Delco to be exact. My problem with this whole situation is that he signed his name to the dotted line many moons ago. If he had a problem with it, maybe then you should have spoke up. This is nothing but hey he is getting paid much better than me, I want some too. I lost all respect for Sheldon...Nothing but NFL player greed...
Posted 05:16 PM, 04/21/2009
TMF
The team's right to terminate the contract is how contracts work in the NFL. People that say that a team is not "honoring" a contract when it terminates are flat out wrong. It is a standard, perfectly honorable, provision in NFL contracts. As consideration for that termination right, teams pay signing bonuses or provide some level of guaranteed money in many (most) cases. If they honor his demand and trade him, is he giving back his signing bonus of $7.5 million. He got the right to keep and (if he were smart) invest $7.5 million, regardless of whether he got hurt, slacked off, or had his contract terminated by the team. If he did not want to take a risk that his contract would become "sub-optimal" one day, he should not have signed it. He could have played out his rookie contract and then taken his chances. If the market went against him or he got hurt or he just stunk, he might never have seen even $7.5 million. He absolutely has a right to ask for a new contract and the tean absolutely has a right to say NO. If he bought 30 year US treasuries with his $7.5 million (even after taxes), his money would be earning annually more than 97% of the people in this country earn and he would not have touched his principal. This "disresepct" angle is ridiculous. How have they disrepected him? By paying him millions a year? By starting him on their team? By touting him as a great player? Brown, who I thought was an honorable man, is just another unrealistic prima donna athlete, who ruin it for the fams (most of whom make less a year than what he would make if he invested his "disrespectful" signing bonus). One last thought: if he used the money from the first and second years of his contract to buy a nice house in SC for him (and whoever else he wanted to buy a house for himself (and anyone else he wanted to buy one for) and invested his signing bonus as stated above, he would be able to do nothing for the rest of his life and not worry about anything! How horrible for him!
Posted 05:16 PM, 04/21/2009
nuggett
wake up....the ticket sales are the icing on the cake....the crumbs of the deal .....TV money is what makes the owners so rich....forget your ticket prices and player salaries...there is no corollation.....TV pays for everything......Your (our) insane demand for tickets allows jeffery the oppurtunity to raise prices...it is the law of supply and demand dummy......and joe and jeffery...know you (we) will pay anything...how sad are we...to pay up for average perfomance and no desire on managements part to win the SB
Posted 05:04 PM, 04/21/2009
bvl390
We fans feel under-appreciated too...can we get a discount on tickets?
Posted 05:01 PM, 04/21/2009
dutchman
sheldon already has enough money to live the rest of his life comfortably. So what gives? Banner was asked point blank about sheldon's contract and according to Sheldon NO ONE knew there was any issue. If there was something quietly going on, of course Banner will not say anything and his answer was correct. It is not lying if both parties wanted to keep it secret and Banner did not reaveal anything. So now Sheldon is mad, shich sounds very phoney. Or is he mad that Banner did not respond to the question and reveal something? The question therefore is who tipped off WIP for that interview and why? The answer most likely is his agent or Sheldon. It feels like a dirty trick scenario that did not work so sheldon just lost his cool. I think the real truth is Sheldon is looking at his contract and probably realizes he will not get another after this. The Eagles are bringing in youth at safety and he is getting older for a corner. He probably wants a shot at a new contract before the end and he feels trapped. He has been know for fugality, but it would not surprise me if his investments went up in smoke like most people's. There is a touch of panic to this whole deal on Sheldon's part. Trade him to Arizona as part of a deal for Boldin.
Posted 04:56 PM, 04/21/2009
Reddgie Noble
Saying it is not about the money is the first sign it is ABSOLUTELY about the money. But I see nothing wrong with Sheldon wanting more money. Every single person that posts on this website would take more money if there employer was offering it, or ask for more every time their annual review comes around, so why shouldn't Sheldon, but he is wrong for going about this way. This is the business side of the sport, and come August, most of will be rooting on the 53 guys who don Eagles green no matter what happens on the business side.
Posted 04:55 PM, 04/21/2009
John621
First of all, WIP is the septic tank of sports talk shows. So, Sheldon, calm down about what you're hearing from the neanderthals who call in. However, you really do live in a fantasy world if you think somehow you are being cheated out of your rightful remunerance. If everything were fair, all players would be on one year contracts and paid according to what they did the previous season...LIKE THE REST OF US.
Posted 04:54 PM, 04/21/2009
votelibertarian
HHMM millionaires arguing with billionaires as I go through job site after job site to get re-employed making 35k...sadly, tho I side with the billionaires as no one held a gun to sheldon's or lito's head (wait is that plaxico in the background - nah they could never stay close to plaxico) and made them sign a secure contract...until the NFL does guaranteed contracts we're always gonna listen to the "haves" arguing with the other "haves" while the "have nots" (read fans) get stuck with a team that can't make it over the hump...
Posted 04:51 PM, 04/21/2009
MrHoosier2U
Sheldon, shut the front door or leave. Going public does you no good cause we can do fine without you and I don't give a rats asp about your overrated game. Go back to south carolina you bumm.
Posted 04:44 PM, 04/21/2009
badlands
There is a lot of you who have no glue. 1. NFL contracts are not worth the paper their printed on. A team can cut or reduce the salary of a player anytime they want. I'm sure many of you remember a couple of years ago the eagles went to Jon Runyan and told him either take a pay reduction or be cut by the team. So tell how is that honoring a contract for a person who never complained and gave all that he had to the team and fans. 2. Whether management gives a player another contract or not the worst thing they can do is lie too or about a player status. If we have been talking about a new contract for months and you past me off to someone my agent or I never met and the guy blows me off. I would be upset to and for Joe Banner to make things public and not expect a response from a player is misguided. But as long as this organization have the 50,000 or so on the waiting list for tickets they will continue to treat fans and players as trash. Keep drinking the green kool-aid guys
Posted 04:44 PM, 04/21/2009
K_Ball
Get this cancer off our team now!
Posted 04:43 PM, 04/21/2009
MikeP
How does Sheldon Brown know what he makes or what the average is? He's too stupid to do grade school math. His statement about the owners show what a dimwit he is. How much did he raise and invest in the team? That would be zero. I'm sure Laurie didn't make his money playing football. And they sent your agent to some guy you don't know? You mean the guy they hired to deal with the salary cap? Not good enough for you? Arrogant jerk.
Posted 04:40 PM, 04/21/2009
jtj06
Again, this is the flaw in the Eagles' approach and Brown points it out. When they lock these players up to long-term sub-par contracts and hold them to the contract the players have no incentive to excel (see Reggie Brown). If they do, at some point they start to realize that the safe contract that looked good has them locked into a fraction of what they could be earning and by the time they can get out of the deal, they will be too old for a big signing bonus. It's all logical and sensible from a front office point of view, but players aren't logical and sensible. If the Eagles want to field a championship team, they need to take an approach that engenders more loyalty and effort from their roster. If they are happy being right and keeping their fans happy with straw men punching bags rather than trophies, then they should keep doing what they are doing. Brown deserves more than he is getting. If the Eagles don't want to pony up, they should cut him loose and let him earn what he can.
Posted 04:39 PM, 04/21/2009
SilliBilli
Each year we pay more for tickets and players want more money. I just don't understand anymore :(
Posted 04:38 PM, 04/21/2009
leeagolf6
Sheldon, you signed a contract. Plain. and. Simple. Now honor it. Period.
Posted 04:32 PM, 04/21/2009
PEFF
yok schpilly, here is a scenario for you, How about not SIGNING a contract before your current one is up??!! If the Eagles had lost money I guess Sheldon would have been first in line to give money back.
Posted 04:32 PM, 04/21/2009
phillyfan#1
Brown SHUT UP! I can't believe these cry babies...don't sign the contract if you don't like it, and if you have anyone to complain about, then complain about your agent. Either show up or don't play, I "respect" the Birds for not budging when guys like this try to cause problems...what a dope.
Posted 04:30 PM, 04/21/2009
Jack Hammer
WHA!!! i am throwing my team mates under the bus!!!!! WHA!!!!
Posted 04:28 PM, 04/21/2009
JACK V
wounderful how philadelphia writers rejoice with this. i wounder how the employees at the inquirer and daily news feel about their working conditions? how about the police officers in any city? this use to be a sports section.
Posted 04:27 PM, 04/21/2009
belocki
brown is not making $2M this year, its more like 3.5, WHEN YOU FACTOR IN HIS SIGNING BONUS. he conviently forgets that when throwing around the numbers. if sheldon got hurt is first year, the eagles would of paid him like $7m for 1yr, clearly a risk on their part. they both gambled, he lost. still sounds fair to me.
Posted 04:24 PM, 04/21/2009
Jack Hammer
WHA!!!! I am only making 2 Million next year!!!! WHA!!!! TRADE ME!!!! WHA!!! Your momma should slap your little tushy and put your man pants on for you Brown. 1/4 of this great country is out of work. You have a God given talent to do something you love. Shut your pie whole, show up for camp and be fortunate are blessed to represent the Philadelphia Eagles. I hope Karma sends you to Detroit.
Posted 04:23 PM, 04/21/2009
EL Zorro
Vetlinkbank, I am not comparing the Dawkins' and Thomas' contract situations to Sheldon's. What I'm saying is there is a pattern here. These are three good guys were are talking about. And it's not good for the the franchise that all of them are not happy with the way the FO has treated them. This could influence free agents from coming to Philadelphia. This is not good. Remember, players stick together the same way owners do.
Posted 04:22 PM, 04/21/2009
belocki
this is ugly, brown is openly campaigning for his teammates to pressure the eagles as well. he is trying to lead a team wide mutiny and that wont be taken lightly by the eagles. for whatever reason, when mature players leave here under any circumstance, they dont go and play well. doesnt happen. sheldon leaves philly, he will just disappear in this league.
Posted 04:22 PM, 04/21/2009
southern eagle fan
Sheldon, it's simple: you haven't "outperformed" your contract. Longevity and "showing up" every defensive snap doesn't count, you are SUPPOSED to show up and play every down! Its called a J-O-B! Get chosen as an All-Pro at your position. You want more money, okay; demonstrate you're one of the two best in the NFC and you'll get it, guaranteed!
Posted 04:19 PM, 04/21/2009
riza1976
As much as I like Sheldon Brown you and Lito should have never took that deal. When both of you were on that Podium and signed that contract and then got mad later on who's fault is that. At the time you signed your contract it was a good deal, I might have signed it two but with less years. Now your stuck with another 4 years to go! Tuff but you have nobody to blame but yourselves. Lito's not getting any more money so what makes you think you do? I feel you cause you don't have that long a career left to play football cause you'll be 34 when its up but again who signed the CONTRACT!!! I'm sure other Eagles players along with all the other teams players feel underappreciated. But what can you do? Boycott after you feel burned after getting 7.5 mill in signing bonus. You got paid only 3 mill per and somebody else got more millions per yr and now you mad. Come on!!!!!
Posted 04:16 PM, 04/21/2009
ArizonaMike
Sheldon Brown reminds me of Anquan Boldin. You listen to their rant about how they are underpaid, despite the fact that they are making more in a single season than some doctors and lawyers make in a lifetime. Then they turn around and with a straight face say "it isn't about the money." Huh? You are both clueless; not to mention greedy.
Posted 04:15 PM, 04/21/2009
phillyceltic
Respect...Yeah Ok. He signed the firggan contract...Live wit it G. I have to assume he fires his agent as his next move. Hate to say it but the Iggles are not in the wrong here.
Posted 04:15 PM, 04/21/2009
Showtime620
Sheldon - You should be shot.
Posted 04:12 PM, 04/21/2009
centerfield
If its truly "not about money, but about repsect" and he "knows people are struggling in the real world", then he should play for the veteran minimum and donate the remainder of his salary to families who are struggling to make ends meet. Then I would respect the hell out of the guy. If not....then its about the money....and not admitting that makes you LOSE respect, not gain it.
Posted 04:06 PM, 04/21/2009
Richard Saunders
Can't help but think of Steve Van Buren trudging through a blizzard to get to get to the game. How much did he make at the time?
Posted 04:01 PM, 04/21/2009
tkohl
"It's not like I'm trying to get near the top of the tier," Brown said. "I want them to pay me somewhere in the middle of the pack." Brown said his current salary ranks 36th among NFL cornerbacks, but it wasn't clear if he was talking about this year's salary or the average value of his deal."??? Their are 32 teams in the NFL...meaning 64 starting cornerbacks...25th to 75th percentile, or 17th to 48th, would be middle of the pack, in fact he falls pretty close to the middle of the middle of the pack by being the 36th highest paid cornerback!!! He has only himself to blame, if players want to whine about not having guaranteed contracts and that the team can cut them at a whim, sign a one-year contract and control your destiny from year to year, don't like the idea? Then lock up a long-term deal with a signing bonus and the team is on the hook for overpaying you if your knee gets blown out the next year...shut up and play, the only reason you think you made a poor deal is the fact that you remained healthy, if you were injury prone like lito, you could have been stealing money on the sidelines the past few years. the ink is dry, deal with it.
Posted 03:59 PM, 04/21/2009
ACBaughman
Shut up and play football. And, if you aren't going to name names, keep your mouth shut. Your whining falls on deaf ears.
Posted 03:52 PM, 04/21/2009
bob121484
he is probably right that him and just about every other player on the team is underpaid. but you agreed to the contract, your signature is on the line. suck it up until your contract expires, and next time dont sign with the cheapest NFL team of all time. LETS GO FLYERS!!!
Posted 03:51 PM, 04/21/2009
reggleston38
Eagles here is an opertunity to get that #1 wide out.Offer the Cards a 1st round and Brown.We can not let this baby to poison the locker room.Brown is just upset that Dawkins and Sheppard are gone.Players that int. 1 pass a year dont get raises,infact we should take money from him.Brown i want you gone,Hanson will surpass you in every attribute and stat.The secondary allready has had a facelift why not one more move.
Posted 03:50 PM, 04/21/2009
jwatson
Sickening, sickening, sickening!! These overpaid bozo's make the hard working, struggling blue collar ticket buyers and followers want to act just like McWaddle-throw up all over the place!
Posted 03:47 PM, 04/21/2009
Joe from Key West
Brown - "When I did the deal, I knew it was a good deal," he said. "Nobody could anticipate that the CBA was going to go up 40 to 50 percent. Nobody wants to talk about the owners being billionaires and how they won't open their books." That is life you moron. Accept responsibility for your commitment. Honor your contract. If not, live off your investments for the rest of your life. Trust me, no one will be ripping up your contract after you stop playing football. I applaud the Eagles for drawing the line. Reworking a contract that has 4 years to run would be irresponsible. Real estate 4 years ago was worth more also; but, are you going to ask a buyer to pay the same amount today as they would 4 years ago? Grow up.
Posted 03:40 PM, 04/21/2009
Lunchboy
Shawn Andrews doesnt deserve more money until his head is in the game. How long has it been since he took a snap? Sheldon, when was the last time you played in a ProBowl?
Posted 03:38 PM, 04/21/2009
danterp
You know, I usually agree with the fans. But this time I agree with Sheldon. I hate how every NFL organization wants class guys and to create a family atmosphere with a cohesive team, but then everytime someone is let go or forced out (Dawkins), the common response is "it's a business. It's about making money." I know I'm naive to think that I understand the salary cap, but I do think it's good busines to proactively reward your best players and the ones that are consistent. Brown has been consistently good since he became a starter. He has never really complained. Sometimes I will the team would just go to certain players and be like, we want to tear up your contract and give you a raise. In the long run, it will save them money or talent for when situations like this come up....and they seem to happen a lot. The Eagles run a tight ship and it's probably helped us remain competitive, but there are certain cases where they need to loosen their purse strings and reward people.
Posted 03:36 PM, 04/21/2009
BHite15
egomania has gone wild with these players, considering the eagles have not won anything of significance since 1960, win something and you will be handsomely rewarded, see Cole Hamels/Ryan Howard and the Phillies
Posted 03:36 PM, 04/21/2009
gho_matt
SB is dead to me. What a tool.
Posted 03:32 PM, 04/21/2009
PhillySubsMac
Thank you for clearing that up, Diddy. Respect is good; disrespect is bad. Bad Eagles. I agree with another guy, this isn't nearly as bad as growing up with the name 'Sheldon'. How come you haven't shut up yet, Mister Brown? You sound worse and worse with each outburst and now you want to drag teammates into it. You used to be highly respected among Eagles fans and now you're just another Li-to. Good, go back to SC and cry until it's time for camp.
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Posted 03:30 PM, 04/21/2009
toots53
What I can't figure out is if Brown has issues with mgmt, why bring in players names who haven't said anything one way or the other? Grow up Sheldon and honor the contract you signed. I'm pretty sure everyone who has commented here wishes they made half of what you make. And you don't even work a full year!!
Posted 03:28 PM, 04/21/2009
nuggett
You reap what you sow......joe beancounter and andy the arrogant....
Posted 03:28 PM, 04/21/2009
losteagle
Yea! Reid, Banner is coming to the end! "There is light at the end of the tunnel"
Posted 03:23 PM, 04/21/2009
fman727
2nd round and sheldon to Cleveland for Edwards and there 3rd rounder or 4th
Posted 03:23 PM, 04/21/2009
fman727
2nd round and sheldon to Cleveland for Edwards and there 3rd rounder or 4th
Posted 03:21 PM, 04/21/2009
Phils2Repeat
If you Eagle fans want to win something, you better hope Brown is happy and productive because this defense isn't good when the corners are average. Their D-line isn't good enough to get pressure with just 4 lineman (the tackles play the run well, thats all, Cole is overrated). They need to blitz, and leave their corners on an island, and if you are going to do that, you better have good corners.
Posted 03:18 PM, 04/21/2009
nuggett
okay...stepfords....if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck...my bet is, it is a duck......tightwad, joe the bean counter and self appointed capologists talks out of both sides of his mouth and has never stated all the facts and has always put a spin on things......he is a shister and a weasel.....and if you think I am wrong...ask yoursleves why is there a continous stream of players voicing concerns similar to Sheldon's....go all the way back folks....read them all.....remember you can't compare our meager wages with thiers. They live in a different world and their life span is very short.......and you can't compare the owners world with ours either.....anymore than you can compare Brad Pitt and Madonna to our world....Get past yoursleves and try to envision their world and they (players owners, entertainers, movie stars etc) do live in a world we can try but we have trouble relating to......that is a truth......but remember what we all have in common....the desire to do a job, get paid (what the market will bear) and be respected and treated fairly and honestly......and if your shop steward is playing favoirtes or your boss is being a jerk or tyrant.......you would be unhappy also...think about it....McNabb, BWest, BDawk, Sheldon, Deuce, Runyon, Tra, the Axeman.....all good players, all good citizens....yet somehow they had problems with joe........we are not talking about TO here, we are talking about good guys,.... good,loyal, hard working producing players.....the EAGLES we love and wear their jerseys with honor.......so is it really all the players or is is a philosophy of greed and a lack of respect and people skills by management..........Remember you can love the Green....but that green is made up of players......not beancounters or administrators.......and for may money I will take anyone of the above mentioned guys word over the weasel anyday.......think aboaut it....
Posted 03:17 PM, 04/21/2009
MooseBreathMints
Athletes need to grow - up! You signed a contract. You're a man, so man-up.
Posted 03:13 PM, 04/21/2009
lalaw9833
I tend to lean in Sheldon Brown's favoor more then the Beagles' because of the what has happened to some dearly departed players in the past few weeks. It's a business for sure, but let's face it, the Beagles' call themselves the "gold standard" in the league because of how they manage player contracts - and their players - period.
Posted 03:12 PM, 04/21/2009
lalaw9833
I tend to lean in Sheldon Brown's favoor more then the Beagles' because of the what has happened to some dearly departed players in the past few weeks. It's a business for sure, but let's face it, the Beagles' call themselves the "gold standard" in the league because of how they manage player contracts - and their players - period.
Posted 03:12 PM, 04/21/2009
cheesesteak17
sports4life....how is a crime that peters and s andrews make more the the big kid? one was signed as a free agent and the other was traded and got a new contract. Shawn Andrews CHOSE to sign a 10 year extention and get some security. Sure that deal works out better for the Eagles as well, but i would have to imagine that a professional sports agent would have laid it all for the 23 year old Andrews before he put ink to paper. just like any other sport, guarenteed money or not, if you wait it out until your free agent years you can potentially hit the jackpot (take Mark Texiera for example). in football, players are advised NOT to wait it out b/c the risk of injury is too great and the guaranteed part of and NFL contract is the only sure thing a player will ever receive. i think Sheldon Brown and all the other guys who sign deals and then try to pressure mgmt into trades or new deals should take these complaints to the NFLPA. THEY are the ones that signed the CBA, THEY are the ones who are supposed to stand up for their memebers. The NFLPA is a joke and let the owners get off with a CBA that is SO in their favor it's almost laughable. Say what you want....THAT IS THE TRUTH.
Posted 03:12 PM, 04/21/2009
JimG
Also, more great math skills from Sheldon. He says he's the 36th highest paid CB in the NFL and he just wants to be paid somewhere near the middle of the pack. There are 32 NFL teams and so 64 starting CBs. Isn't 36 somewhere around the middle of the pack then? Maybe he should get rid of his agent too. Didn't his agent factor salary inflation into his deal? He can't predict exact salaries down the road, but he sure could have predicted that salaries would go up over the next 6 or so years.
Posted 03:11 PM, 04/21/2009
cujat13
Letting it be known that you want a new deal when the team has publicly denied being approached about a new deal is somewhat acceptable, but bringing other players into your disagreement and making threats that others will follow is over the top.
Posted 03:11 PM, 04/21/2009
rwright611
I'm glad you've put your real feelings out there for us Eagles fans Sheldon. One minute, you guys are saying how we're the best fans etc etc, the next you don't care what we think, you're cashing in and going back to SC after you're done anyway. Thanks for clearing the air.
Posted 03:04 PM, 04/21/2009
illlil01
I think Brown is making a such a big deal out of everything because he doesn't wanna play for the eagles anymore because they let BDawk leave
Posted 03:04 PM, 04/21/2009
shavoy
I love Sheldon, I really do. But this is nuts - I can't believe I'm actually going to agree with the Eagles organization... Someone needs to open up his eyes to help him realize the sad state that the country is in, that he's filthy rich compared to the average U.S. household, and he signed on the dotted line a few years ago. The fault is only his own for signing the contract. Deal with it and get a reality check.
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Posted 03:04 PM, 04/21/2009
bsaw
Sport4life are you kidding were you on Mars last year or did you not witness first hand Shawn Andrews being a complete injred head case yet you think he deserves a new contract? In every profession making the money is about timing especially in sports.
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Posted 03:03 PM, 04/21/2009
NovaWildcats36
heinz guderian: by saying that sheldon brown makes joe banner look catholic, it was a joke (because everyone thinks banner is jewish)
Posted 03:01 PM, 04/21/2009
ljabarr
Joe Banner is a scum bag but I'm on the Eagles side with this one. Sheldon Brown chose to sign that deal and he should honor the deal he signed. He's crying about making just $2 million dollars a year and there are people losing their jobs and homes every day. BOO-HOO!!! These athletes today are clueless and sad. Switch joes with me Sheldon. I'll take your $2 million and you can have my paltry middle class wage.
Posted 03:00 PM, 04/21/2009
GUNTHER48
Start with compaing salaries with the Stealers...position by position. Next..get the ring...make more money..simple as that..oh, and try not to fall down while covering your receiver in an NFC CHampionship game. Oh, and Laurie and Banner are prototypical cheapos from New England...build more incentives into the contracts and pay for performance should rule the contract.
Posted 02:59 PM, 04/21/2009
mark1161
In these situations, the only one held to account and the law is the player unfortunately. However, the NFL Players Association agreed to free agency with this type of unguaranteed contract situation along with the salary cap. A new CBA is coming up and, if the players are unhappy with these ground rules, they should be telling their leaders to get them changed. However, after Sheldon Brown did sign his deal, the rules regarding the calculation of the salary cap did change which resulted in the dramatic increase in that number over the last few years. It is easy to understand his frustration with the issue.
Posted 02:59 PM, 04/21/2009
Drew777
It never ends. Bringing up current players names like Trent Cole and involving them in your contract problem is your biggest mistake. Just like Ocho Stinko your not going anywhere.
Posted 02:58 PM, 04/21/2009
Nico Lange
For a team with no rings they sure have a bunch of heros that think they deserve more.
Posted 02:58 PM, 04/21/2009
cduran1229
koulet - i believe a pretty fat signing bonus was part of that "contract". If Brown gets hurt or just plain stinks, does the team get any of that money back.
Posted 02:58 PM, 04/21/2009
Sheed
Sheldon is taking plays right out of Lito's handbook, and force a trade...and one will come. Next offseason. You dont have to play, h3ll you can just sit it on down for the season and not get paid or like Lito you can not see the field at all and get traded to a worse off team. Is Sheldon worth being ranked 36th in the league, of course not. However you now how the Eagles do business...be the top CB in the league (like Westbrook did as RB) and let the fans and media and peers talk you up to where the Eagles feel the pressure to make something happen. I thought you were smarter than this!
Posted 02:58 PM, 04/21/2009
JimG
Sheldon Brown needs to just shut up and play football. Couldn't predict his future when he signed his contract? Really? You and every other player who signs a long-term deal. That's the point. He took the guaranteed up front bonus money as a trade off. The Eagles had the risk that he wouldn't develop as a player and Brown took the risk that he could have made more money as a free-agent if he played really well. If he stunk it up, the Eagles wouldn't have been able to go back and make him return part of that bonus money. Frankly, I'd prefer to see professional sports go to 1 year contracts or a league-wide performance pay system. Then players would truly get paid what they are worth. They all have conveniently short memories and poor math skills when it comes to calculating their pay. They take those upfront signing bonuses and then whine about their salary in the later years of the deal. Don't take upfront money then. Perhaps we should just get rid of signing bonuses. Make them get paid over the life of the deal instead of these front-loaded deals. The difference between Sheldon and Lito is that Lito was injury-prone, was getting outplayed by Hanson and the Eagles still had Samuel and Brown so they were willing to trade him. The Eagles are not going to trade Brown and they shouldn't.
Posted 02:58 PM, 04/21/2009
psuhoffman
The real problem that these athletes do not understand, and it is part of the culture in America today of ME ME ME, is that the Eagles are trying to build a team and are not concerned with each individual players personal feelings. If everytime they went out and signed a high payed player to sure up one position they had to readjust every else's contracts they would be bankrupt. Like Sheldon said... lets say the Eagles do redo his contract....then what... we have to redo Cole, Patterson, and McNabb also? How far does it go? Its not possible for the owners to make ever player happy, but they do not care, they are all just looking out for themselves which is counterproductive to the idea of a "team"
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Posted 02:56 PM, 04/21/2009
robp99
Interesting that he wants to be paid in the "middle of the pack", well with 32 teams X 3 CBs per team = 96 CBs in the league. With his ranking of 36, middle of the pack would be 48th.
Posted 02:55 PM, 04/21/2009
gordy
DJ, you beat me to the punch. You nailed it. Unfortunately for Sheldon he has to play to earn his income. Imagine that, earn your income.
Posted 02:53 PM, 04/21/2009
John Romano
THAT'S RIGHT....GO BACK TO SOUTH CAROLINA....IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PLAY FOR 2.5 MILLION..THEY HAVE OPENINGS FOR CARRYING GOLF CLUBS IN MYRTLE BEACH...OH SORRY, THEY USE GOLF CARTS.....SORRY---NO WORK...TRY FARMING.............
Posted 02:52 PM, 04/21/2009
djsaitta
Koulet - I think you're missing the other side of the coin. The contract Brown signed initially was a long term contract that guaranteed him financial security up front at the risk of being underpaid if he turned out to be one of the better corners in the league. If he'd blown out his knee the next year, or played his way right out of the league, he'd still have all that upfront money. What he's trying to do is have it both ways.
Posted 02:52 PM, 04/21/2009
phillygoon30
"You gotta get what you can, when you can, while you can. Because if you think Mick Jaggar is going to be on that stage when he's 50 years old, you are sadly, sadly mistaken" - Rock n Roll Promoter, 1973
Posted 02:51 PM, 04/21/2009
Nico Lange
Please. Everyone knows the truth about Banner and his gang, they treat the players just like cattle. I'm surprised it took this long to get ugly.
Posted 02:50 PM, 04/21/2009
donnie65
Although it make make us average working stiffs sick about how a player making $two million a year, what about the owners who lock these players into a deal that they outperform? and then can still turn around and cut him and not pay the balance of the contract?I understand how huge signing bonuses lessen the blow of a player being cut but the owners still have all the leverage. Players have egos like everyone else.Anyone in a job wants what they consider a fair deal and sometimes get upset or leave when they can get a better offer.Look at Asante Samuels contract compared to Sheldons'.
Posted 02:50 PM, 04/21/2009
Doubtful
I've been involved in contracts all my professional life and thus have a great deal of respect for them but I don't see the problem of players wanting out of their contracts the players' fault. The problem has been caused by the owners giving in initially on these renegotiation requests. After the players have seen owners constantly renegotiating other players contracts why should they think they would be expected to live up to the terms and conditions of theirs?
Posted 02:49 PM, 04/21/2009
ekw
I'm sure Sheldon has outplayed his contract. I mean, who would have expected him to have made the pro bowl every year since signing this deal? or make the big plays & stops on D to help his team to the top ? here's the news, Sheldon: you're a decent player on a decent team. and you're getting paid a decent wage. at some point, you & your agent thought it would be a great idea to lock yourself into this deal. if you have a problem with that, you & Chayut should lock yourself into a mirrored room
Posted 02:48 PM, 04/21/2009
mick314
I feel a tea party is in the offing at the Linc.
Posted 02:48 PM, 04/21/2009
wingslax35
I was hoping the Brown was Reggie, not Sheldon.
Posted 02:47 PM, 04/21/2009
Tron Carter
That is why you can't buy a Eagles jersey with a name on it.
Posted 02:46 PM, 04/21/2009
maximus
... and I love the comments they need to feed their family. tell their family members to get a friggin job like everyone else. and if you have millions already and you need more to feed them, then learn to budget you moron.
Posted 02:46 PM, 04/21/2009
vetlincbank
El Zorro, Dawkins and Thomas were different situations. As much as I loved Dawkins, Denver grossly overpaid, and he took the money and ran (can't blame him). Thomas wanted a longer deal than we can offer and we ended up upgrading. Sheldon is being a whiny little kid. I'll tell you how to measure good character.....you honor the contract that you signed. "I'm the 36th highest paid millioniare playing cornerback" Whaaaaaaaaaa Whaaaaaaaaaa Whaaaaaaaaaaa
Posted 02:46 PM, 04/21/2009
gordy
When a player under performs does the management get to get some of their signing bonus back? I am very anti management on this team but at this point the player is in the wrong. A contract is a contract and there are rules to how much money the team can spend and I don't think Sheldon has earned a new contract just like Lito didn't
Posted 02:46 PM, 04/21/2009
pink7
Hey, if a guy is unhappy and unable to play up to his potential and wants to be traded, give him his wish. Let's see what the Detroit Lions have available.
Posted 02:45 PM, 04/21/2009
gulls3012
his contract ranks 36th amongst conerbacks in the NFL...weird because that is probably where he ranks among those cornerbacks. He is really being rediculous, if it isn't about the money, then what the H is it about????
Posted 02:45 PM, 04/21/2009
heinz guderian
"sheldon brown makes joe banner look catholic." what does that mean?
Posted 02:44 PM, 04/21/2009
Koulet
Anyone on this board or any other who wants to throw out the "it's a contract" line doesn't have a clue about NFL contracts. They're not guaranteed like the other sports. You can have a contract for 20 million per year for 50 years and it won't pay the day after you get cut. Get it?
Posted 02:44 PM, 04/21/2009
Champs_2008
It's always tough to be on a team and know that others who don't contribute as much earn more. It's also tough in the NFL, that without guaranteed contracts, so much of the compensation is placed in the signing bonus. Sorry, Sheldon, but you are going to have to grow up and live with your agreement. With four years to go on your deal, you will be severely penalized by the Eagles and ultimately the NFL if you hold out or fail to play to your ability. The upside is that is you play well, make a Pro Bowl or two, you will get your mega contract in a couple years.
Posted 02:44 PM, 04/21/2009
Warhound
Incentive??? Professional Pride? Being a Man? What the F@#*!
Posted 02:44 PM, 04/21/2009
maximus
who cares, play out your contract or out perform it. These guys dont complain when they spend their bonuses. Brown crossed the line by trying to bring in other players to disrupt the team. trade him to cincinatti for chad.
Posted 02:43 PM, 04/21/2009
cujat13
This is infuriating.....Sheldon made a bad business decision and now he wants to blame the Eagles! He took financial security over a big Free Agency payday and now he wants more. Laurie is a Billionaire so Sheldon thinks that means he should pay the players whatever they want. I wonder if he would feel the same way if an employee of his decided he wanted more money for a job after the fact, because Sheldon is a multi-millionaire? Something tells me he wouldn't agree with that logic if it applied to him!
Posted 02:43 PM, 04/21/2009
Snake
Unfortunately with the Eagles, winning contracts is more important than winning games.
Posted 02:42 PM, 04/21/2009
bow
If he is going to be a distraction TRADE HIM, we dont need guys like him in the locker room this season. Personally Browm isn't a shut down, top DB anyway. Brown, what are u basin this new contract off of?
Posted 02:37 PM, 04/21/2009
barcelona fan
He's another low IQ, low character guy who plays a brutal sport in a league that is a cross between the days of the Roman Coliseum and eighties' Wall Street. Truly he is emblematic of what makes the NFL so disgusting, and while I regret how much time I waste watching the product, no doubt I will still keep doing just that.
Posted 02:37 PM, 04/21/2009
hunsinator
Wow, Sheldon has pulled off an amazing feat, getting people on the side of Eagle management in a contract dispute. Impressive stuff. I used to think highly of the guy, but he is really coming off as a moron here. This guy makes millions of dollars, but doesn't try his best, and his teammates, who also make millions, also don't play their hearts out? And it's not about the money? Um, ok.
Posted 02:36 PM, 04/21/2009
NovaWildcats36
sheldon brown makes joe banner look catholic
Posted 02:35 PM, 04/21/2009
Joe Funk
I hate it when defensive players whine. You expect it when offensive players whine but it is out of character for the defensive guys. Also, the comments aren't as vitriolic when discussing the D. STFUAPFYBFP!
Posted 02:33 PM, 04/21/2009
Repinphilly247
Brown said his current salary ranks 36th among NFL cornerbacks, but it wasn't clear if he was talking about this year's salary or the average value of his deal.... "It's not like I'm trying to get near the top of the tier," Brown said. "I want them to pay me somewhere in the middle of the pack." ----------------------------------- I would say that is pretty much in the middle of the pack. 32 teams, two starting corners per team, so 64 starting corners. I would say 36th is right about in the middle of the pack. So let's not say you want to be paid somewhere in the middle of the pack. And that doesn't include all the nickel and dime corners.
Posted 02:32 PM, 04/21/2009
tpizza
Trade him to Cincy for COC. Bet he'll appreciate what he has then. Jack I. can take his place and then we can draft another DB this year. Problem solved.
Posted 02:30 PM, 04/21/2009
didderbops
*Drinking the green Kool-Aid* +Glug, glug, glug!+ Yes, Sheldon hasn't outplayed his contract. *Glug glug glug* He got a fair deal when he signed the extension and had financial security for life! *glug glug glug* Millionaire athletes are out of touch whiners. *Glug glug glug* Eagles management is infallible... Now I have to go tinkle. Green of course.
Posted 02:30 PM, 04/21/2009
snad264
"...Nobody wants to talk about the owners being billionaires and how they won't open their books." Well tough sh#t!! There are plenty of professional athletes that are involved in business interests outside of their respective sport. Theses business interests have employees that are necessary to keep the day to day operations going. What would these athletes say if those employees said, "Open your books. You have to pay us more because you make millions of dollars." I doubt they would say 'OK!' My head almost explodes everytime I here someone try to justify a demand for higher pay based on what an owner is worth. An employees pay rate is based on performance, occupational guidelines, market demand,...NOT ON WHAT THE OWNER IS WORTH!! Any athlete that wants to break his contract and demand more money because the owners are billionaires should go out and by his own team and see how easy it is.
Posted 02:30 PM, 04/21/2009
ynot716
I like Sheldon but he signed a contract several years ago, got the bonus money etc...now play up to the contract and stick to it just like Joe average does in the workplace at his job. Sure we all want more money but you can't cry a few years into a deal that you want more. Play to your contract and above and earn a better deal when your contract is up. Sheldon is a good player but he's not a pro bowl player either. It's not like he's at the top of his profession and he's getting paid 30th in his position. He's not close to the top. Bottom line. play hard, work hard and you'll be rewarded when your deal is up. Until then just be a good teammate and player and keep quiet.
Posted 02:30 PM, 04/21/2009
CMI
Dear Sheldon: In the NFL, the owners take the risk that the player underperforms but still gets to keep his bonus. The player takes the risk that he overperforms and is locked into his contract's salary. Those are the rules, you know them, and you know how they applied to Lito Sheppard. You also know that the rules don't necessarily apply to those who are special enough to break them, i.e. Brian Westbrook. Do you think you are more like Lito or Westbrook? I've got 2 words for you Sheldon... "Joselio Hanson"
Posted 02:29 PM, 04/21/2009
farside37
"What's the incentive [to play to the best of our ability]?" You've got to be kidding. The incentive is your professional reputation. The incentive is your character. The incentive is to work hard for yor paycheck, whether it's $2 million or $20,000. I work 70 hours a week, 12 months a year as a school administrator, and I make 5% of what Sheldon makes. I do my best because I'm a professional and it's my responsibility to do my best. If someone is working only for a paycheck, he's in the wrong line of work. Sheldon signed the deal in 2004. If he's upset about the way that the owners can terminate players' contracts, take it up with his union. They signed off on this CBA, and he should be angry with them for agreeing to such a lopsided contract. Do your job, Sheldon, and quit crying.
Posted 02:29 PM, 04/21/2009
93phils
What do you think his value is? a 3rd round pick? Getting rid of him makes it seem easy for players who are unhappy to get off a team...
Posted 02:26 PM, 04/21/2009
mikemaddog
When they say it's not about the money, it's about the money.
Posted 02:26 PM, 04/21/2009
tdcuse
32 teams. Say 4 CBs per team = roughly 130 CBs in the NFL. Brown's paid 36th. Isn't that beyond middle of the pack? Whatever, they'll draft someone else and Sheldon WILL be replaced. Why overpay for someone who WILL be replaced?
Posted 02:26 PM, 04/21/2009
Joyner80
Quick Question: Following Sheldon's logic...can't the Eagles request money back from Jevon Kearse, McDougle, Reggie Brown since they have vastly UNDER performed to their contracts? Does management then get to say "where's my incentive to pay you" if you play below expectations? NO. They still have to eat those game checks and take a cap hit if they cut the player.
Posted 02:25 PM, 04/21/2009
DirtyBirds
WAH, I'm a millionaire, everyone cry for me. WAH WAH! I signed a contract and now I want more money. Join the club man, we all want more money but the problem is, you already make plenty of it. Quit your whining and play football like a man. Men don't whine, they do what they have to do. Sheldon Brown is acting like a child and should be treated as such.
Posted 02:25 PM, 04/21/2009
Mayanman
djsaitta - you hit the nail on the head. the incentive to play is because you are a man, you have pride, and that instinct to be the best. sheldon, the fact that you asked that question just goes to show that it IS all about the money. i haven't seen you make an impact play since the Reggie Bush hit. try wrapping guys up or grabbing an INT before you start mouthing off - and wait till you have 1 or 2 years left. I lost a lot of respect for you.
Posted 02:22 PM, 04/21/2009
jwalkmusic
I think Sheldon needs to fire his agent. His agent seems to have negotiated a contract that Sheldon is not happy with and now he is letting Sheldon address the media in a way that makes him look like he doesn't know what he is talking about. Those aren't signs of a good agent.
Posted 02:22 PM, 04/21/2009
93phils
How many people who work for a living feel underpaid and not appreciated? I would guess to say at least 50% on the conservative side and maybe even 75%...
Posted 02:21 PM, 04/21/2009
davekrieg
sports4life- How is it a crime those 2 guys make mroe than Shawn Andrews? Did he not miss just about all of last year and is a huge question mark this year? He is hardly has any room to argue.
Posted 02:20 PM, 04/21/2009
R3
Where's the incentive? WHERE'S THE INCENTIVE!?!? ARE YOU KIDDING ME SHELDON BROWN? How about you are a FOOTBALL PLAYER. How is this team every going to bring a trophy home with attitudes like this. You let us down dude. Did you blow you last paycheck or what?
Posted 02:19 PM, 04/21/2009
Constance
Oh please Sheldon..shut up and do your job. You signed a contract so honor it. I thought that when you sign a contract you stand by it. Your name on the dotted line seals the deal and you have to stand by that deal. Maybe the Eagles can trade Brown so that he can languish with another team that will be going nowhere fast. This he deserves....a new contract he does not deserve.
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Posted 02:16 PM, 04/21/2009
Mike D.
Yeah, no one knew the CBA would change. Also, no one knew whether Sheldon Brown was going to be able to play for another 8 years or not. He signed the deal to get guaranteed moeny up front. The team took a risk of him getting hurt or struggling and he took a risk of future increases. Remember Damon Moore? Pretty good player but decided to decline contract extensions in hopes of getting to free agency and cashing in? Hurt his knee and never played again. Whatever, he can holdout, he can pout, but just sit him on the bench like Lito last year. Play Hanson or Klywengueught or whatever his name is; there won't be a HUGE difference.
Posted 02:16 PM, 04/21/2009
phlent
HE STINKS!
Posted 02:16 PM, 04/21/2009
cduran1229
I vote for a new NFL rule. Any player who publicly airs team business is fined $50,000 by the league. Stop turning a man's sport into a daytime soap.
Posted 02:15 PM, 04/21/2009
dmac2002
"When I'm done playing football, I'm going back to South Carolina and I won't have to listen to 610 (WIP) or Joe Banner. Everybody has the right to their opinion, but if you think it's about the money, you're crazy" Don't compare him to Dawkins. This guy said its not about money. What's it about then? Go back to South Carolina, its just football. I can live without Sheldon Brown just as easily as he can live without Philadelphia.
Posted 02:14 PM, 04/21/2009
aden
I don't know how the reasoning and trend developed with how the Draft's Bidding Scale came to be, but I think that many are beginning to think it is out of whack. How the 'Business' of draft picks has virtually created a new industry. How did the Union supported this formula for upside down compensation. knighn made some good points relating to the contract structures. I further believe that there is much to do about playing time for incentively based contracts. I wondered why Buckhalter was not utilized as much when his performance sparkled. Implicitly, does the contract control the play? Nobody in any industry likes to see a new addition receiving big salaries without some recognition, this is not new anywhere. Of course the Eagles signed some guys with the philosophy that un-drafted and lower draft picks had a more intense desire to prove their capabilities. Herein comes the Agent who most probably is happy to get his fee upfront without dedicated consideration for the client. The idea for a new league agreement should focus more on these issues more comprehensively for the application of salaries for all levels of players...present and former. This is an unique industry that requires creative methodology to balance continuity as one entity. Attitude permeates the locker room and on paper the team looks to be resolving talent transition well. It would be unfortunate for a cancer to develop when the prescription could be having a team being part of the organization instead of upstairs and downstairs interaction.
Posted 02:13 PM, 04/21/2009
Zherog
Memo to Sheldon Brown: Shut the F up, you big baby. You got more money in a signing bonus than most people will see in their lifetime. You make more in a year than most people make in 10 years. Quit your whining, and absolutely stop telling us it's not about the money. It's *only* about the money, you big baby.
Posted 02:13 PM, 04/21/2009
p-diddy
heinz guderian, Quentin Mikell is the Eagles best player in the secondary.
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Posted 02:11 PM, 04/21/2009
jonnyB
Sheldon, you moaning millionaire, you did this in the most unprofessional way. Then you start new rumors. Selfish and reckless.
Posted 02:10 PM, 04/21/2009
MB2009
I hope the Eagles keep him on the roster and the bench the whole year. Friggin loser.......
Posted 02:10 PM, 04/21/2009
p-diddy
Sports4life, who says Shawn Andrews is unhappy with the contract he signed? Les Bowen?
Posted 02:09 PM, 04/21/2009
BirdsSuck
Who cares? The Eagles are not going to win the Super Bowl with or without Sheldon anyway!
Posted 02:08 PM, 04/21/2009
heinz guderian
umm, no, quentin mikell isn't better than brown. but over the life of the contract brown will receive 25mm, including a 7.5mm signing bonus, his family is set for life, and he has four years left on his deal. too bad
Posted 02:08 PM, 04/21/2009
Rob
Yawn.....Wake me up when the season starts. I don't care about how much the players make, I just want to watch the games.
Posted 02:06 PM, 04/21/2009
Bill_C
I like Sheldon and he has done a great job for the Eagles. I believe the real problem is there does not seem to be a true understanding between labor (the players) and management (the front offices of all the teams). This is not about owners making billions that they either choose or not choose to share with the players, it is about when do players deserve to have their contracts revisited. Why not make it part of the collective bargaining agreement that a player who has performed at a certain level in so many years since their last contract can seek renegotiation. Everyone else, shut up and play! Of course, if I am a player, I probably think my worth to the team is more than management does. That's how it is in any business, and the NFL is a business. Another solution could be to keep salaries from being made made public. In my business, each employee's salary is personal information. You don't always get paid what you think you are worth, rather you get what you can negotiate. Some times you are lucky enough to be paid more than you are actually worth. I don't think Seldon can win this one.
Posted 02:03 PM, 04/21/2009
p-diddy
Of course it's not about money. It's about "respect", and "respect" is measured in.....money, of course.
Posted 01:59 PM, 04/21/2009
Sports4Life
a bigger crime is Jason Peters and Stacy Andrews making more than Shawn Andrews. It is difficult for players to respect Joe Banner. Lurie needs to realize that.
Posted 01:59 PM, 04/21/2009
djsaitta
"What's the incentive for guys like Trent Cole and Mike Patterson to play above their heads?" I dunno Sheldon...how about professional integrity?
Posted 01:59 PM, 04/21/2009
p-diddy
Hey Sheldon....YOU signed a contract. Some of these guys apparently don't understand what a contract is. Does this mean that players who "underperform" their contracts have to give their teams money back? I think Jevon Kearse owes the Eagles money. How many games did Lito Sheppard miss? I think Sheppard owes the Eagles money.
Posted 01:57 PM, 04/21/2009
scphillyguy
Actually I sick that Lurie is a billionaire. And funny owners won't open their books. Get ready for a strike coming up soon. Has there ever been a character question on Brown before, cricket, cricket. Nope. Funny how people get mad at players who earn the OWNERS billions and billions of dollars and get made when said players ask for more. Mark my words a strike is looming. NFL teams began furloughing and laying off personnel last year in anticipation of the new Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA). The NFL owners/mgmt is posturing for the new deal that they will op out of after the year. Players may be posturing soon as well (like Brown/Bouldin).
Posted 01:56 PM, 04/21/2009
dlscholt
Sheldon says it's not about the money, but the money is what he's complaining about. Maybe I'm simple-minded, and just don't get it. He feels slighted that Joe Banner lied, and I understand that. I understand that he feels underpaid, although that was his choice. I also made a bad choice, and my 401K has lost so much value that I will have to work many years past the time I thought I could retire. That's the gamble he took by taking the contract in 2004 that was the safe way out. Sheldon, go to practice and demonstrate that your worth way more money. THAT's what will getyou a new contract.
Posted 01:53 PM, 04/21/2009
oTTo the CzAR
“Everybody has the right to their opinion, but if you think it's about the money, you're crazy."… so asking for more money, is not about the money… it’s about?!?! And, “Brown said his current salary ranks 36th among NFL cornerbacks”… "It's not like I'm trying to get near the top of the tier," Brown said. "I want them to pay me somewhere in the middle of the pack."… so let’s see, 32 teams, 2 starting corners per team, equals 64 starting corners… you’re ranked 36th… yep, right in the middle… SO QUIT YER B!TCHIN!!!!
Posted 01:53 PM, 04/21/2009
Joseph060701
Pay the 8 million you owe the city you thief Laurie and Banner. How could anyone root for this organization.
Posted 01:50 PM, 04/21/2009
knmcmahon
These athletes make sick complaining about money and they already made millions! They sign these contracts and now want to change the terms in the middle of it. A contract is a contract. You must exceed expectations fromt he contract and maybe management will entertain the idea of a new one. I agree with the Eagles management 100%. Besides, Sheldon still has fours years left on the contract. Sheldon do your or in fact exceed expectations. He shoudl be glad he has a job making millions while there are many people out there without one in this economy. What his Sheldon thinking so because the CBA changes every NFL tema should change all players salary?? Desean Jackson will have a easy time getting his extention because he exceeds expectations. Hopefully, he will continue this season.
Posted 01:49 PM, 04/21/2009
bostoneagle104
Who does this guy think he is? 2 comments that REALLY bother me: 1)"I'm not the first guy and I'm not going to be the last guy. What's the incentive for guys like Trent Cole and Mike Patterson to play above their heads?"...What's the incentive? Why do you need any incentive other thnn the more than generous paycheck you get for playing a kid's game? You sound like a little brat Sheldon! 2)"When I'm done playing football, I'm going back to South Carolina and I won't have to listen to 610 (WIP) or Joe Banner. Everybody has the right to their opinion, but if you think it's about the money, you're crazy."...My answer to you is good riddance. It's not about the money...that's hilarious.
Posted 01:47 PM, 04/21/2009
deanwermer
"I tried to handle this in a professional way". Earth to Sheldon, no you didn't. Calling out your bosses publicly will get you nowhere, not with this regime. Unless you start doing sit ups on your lawn. You signed a fair contract at the time, by your own admission, and if you or your agents were so blind not to see that salaries would go up over time, then shame on all of you. It was great at the time, now you feel "disrespected"?? See you at Lehigh.
Posted 01:46 PM, 04/21/2009
reb
There's *always* drama on every team, every year. Until the NFL establishes guaranteed contracts like other sports do, there will be the huge "phantom" contracts and continuing player/manager disputes over re-doing contracts. By the way, the first comment about the Westbrook example is a great one.
Posted 01:29 PM, 04/21/2009
EL Zorro
This is not good for the Eagles. First the Dawkins drama, then Tra Thomas and now the remaining leader of the defense is not happy. There is definitely a problem between players and management in Eagles nation. We are talking players with good character here, not the TO's of the world.
Posted 01:24 PM, 04/21/2009
knighn
All the Eagles players need to do is look at Brian Westbrook - if you legitimately outplay your contract, and if you make yourself indespensible to the team, AND if you keep things civil with the team, you're going to get paid big time. Sheldon Brown is not generally seen as the best DB on the team (most would rank Asante Samuel and Quentin Mikell above him). Learn this lesson, rookies - you can either: A) take a contract extension early and risk missing out on bigger money later (like Lito or Sheldon) or B) you can pass on a big contract with the belief that you're going to keep playing at a high level and make big money in Free Agency. Of course, you could get hurt, your play could decline, and you could end up paid close to the veteran minimum (like L.J. Smith). ------------- Unless you're really one of the best on the team (and in the NFL) at your position, I really, really don't want to hear you crying. That means you, Sheldon. ------- You think things are so good for Lito Sheppard? He's in a situation now where he HAS to stay really healthy and play really well this year, otherwise he misses out on the big bonuses, and he might have been better off (in the long run) staying with the Eagles. I'll be curious to see how that turns out for him.
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