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After controversial play, Collie "up and alert"

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After controversial play, Collie "up and alert"

POSTED: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 6:30 PM

Despite what appeared to be an errant call by the officials, the most important news from the hit that forced Austin Collie to be carted off the field was that he was "up and alert" in the locker room, according to the Colts.

The Indianapolis receiver suffered a concussion late in the second quarter when he was sandwiched by Eagles safeties Quintin Mikell and Kurt Coleman. Mikell drew a flag for hitting a defenseless receiver, but he appeared to be arriving just as the ball was and he led with his shoulder. Coleman led with his shoulder, too, but his helmet grazed Collie's.

Nevertheless, Collie fell the turf and laid motionless for minutes with his hands up in the air. Eagles coach Andy Reid, meanwhile, boisterously appealed the call. At one point, DeSean Jackson argued with the officials out on the field, but Reid yelled at the receiver to get back on the sideline.

Everyone from CBS broadcaster Jim Nantz to the Eagles fan in the nosebleeds thought the hits were legal. But in today's NFL, with the new rules meant to protect defenseless players, the line between a clean and a dirty hit has been blurred.

In Eagles injury news, Nate Allen left the game with an upper back and neck injury. X-rays were negative, according to the team. Coleman replaced Allen. Guard Max Jean-Gilles also left the game. He had a concussion. Nick Cole was his replacement.

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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 12:20 PM, 11/08/2010
    I don't understand why there was no flag on the play early in the game where Celek was absolutely blasted by a Colts defender. If you're a certain size, the defenseless receiver rule doesn't apply ? That hit looked a lot more flagrant to me than the hits on Collie.
    Yumsters
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:56 AM, 11/08/2010
    I watched a couple of games yesterday and the officiating is just terrible across the board. Roger Goodell needs to stop acting as the morality police, doling out subjective and inconsistent punishments for everthing from assualt charges to dui's AND start focusing on enhancing the game of football with consistent and accurate officiating. Problem is "absolute power corrupts absolutely" and that describes Goodells version of the NFL
    section117
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:17 AM, 11/08/2010
    If there are fines, the NFL should switch over to either two hand touch or hand the players joysticks and play "Madden" on the field instead. You never want to see anyone hurt, but this play had no intentional helmet contact. If Coleman is fined that's the ultimate insult - his 'helmet' hit was a ricochet of the Mikkel hit and in no way could have been controlled.
    dpcoz
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:49 AM, 11/08/2010
    That was absolutely the worst officiated game I ever saw. The Collie
    call and penalty was bad but the one on Trent Cole at the very
    end of the game was atrocious. Now the refs look like they are afraid
    to offend the morons in who put these new rules in effect. Even the commentators on TV could not believe the calls.
    naplesfan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:39 AM, 11/08/2010
    IMO, I don't think the refs were that bad. Most of those calls were warrented, it wasn't just 2 flags on the day. Granted, they barely called any on the colts (late hits, etc.), but that's just the game I guess.
    I see why they called the unnecessary roughness on Collie initially, the ref sees two defenders converge on a receiver, hit him pretty hard, and then the receiver doesn't move afterwards. Yeah they should be able to tell in those situations, but still, it wasn't a horrible call, not like the other roughing the passer call.
    That was just plain dumb. Honestly, his hand GRAZED the helmet. And it's not like Manning was acting hurt or anything after the play. I bet he didn't even notice the 'hit'.
    Oh well. The NFL should try to stop illegal plays that result in bad injury, but you have to remember, it's a rough sport, people are going to get hurt. This isn't baseball (no offense)
    Hindsight is 20/20 though. Shoulda woulda coulda. Whatever. The Eagles still pulled it off somehow.
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 11:20 PM, 11/07/2010
    Peyton Manning is praised week after week as the most prepared and smartest quarterback. And eight plays out of ten, that is probably the case. On this play, and 20% of the other passing plays he manages, Manning makes decisions that put his receivers in jeopardy. On this play, Manning stepped back in the pocket, sat their for three seconds, didn't look at another receiver, and lobbed a pass down the middle to a receiver that was certain to get hit pretty hard. 99.9% of the time, a beautiful Manning pass down the middle will result in either his receiver getting nailed but the reception being made and the yardage counting or his receiver getting nailed and the pass falling incomplete. The constant is that his receiver gets nailed and walks away. In this case, the pass was beautiful. In this case, it was placed where no defender could get it, right in the hands of his receiver. But, in this case, his receiver didn't walk away. Manning is supposed to be the most prepared quarterback in the game. He's supposed to understand where his players are and where the defenders are like no other quarterback out there. If that is the case, why would he place a ball where within literally 1.5 steps of catching the ball, his receiver would get destroyed by three defenders? Too much of the responsibility of the play outcome is placed on the defender. Too often you have quarterbacks placing balls in the middle of precarious positions. And, never, are they held accountable. In this case, Peyton Manning deserves the $50,000 fine. He is the smartest, most well prepared quarterback in the game. But, that doesn't mean he shouldn't take responsibility for putting his receiver in a no-win situation.
    flitchy
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:49 PM, 11/07/2010
    The ref is defending the call saying the receiver has "protection" on incomplete passes, thus the penalty. If the pass is complete, which it was, and the receiver then becomes a runner then there is no penalty. That should have been the call. And had Reid been able to challenge the play it should have been overturned. However I'm afraid because of the nature of the hit and what has happened in the NFL the last few weeks that even had Reid challenged it the refs would have stood behind there horrible call.
    jkard99
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 10:29 PM, 11/07/2010
    Birds win, Cow-pokes getting pounded...it's a good day.
    Elzero
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:46 PM, 11/07/2010
    Worst officiating I ever did see.
    brio
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 9:20 PM, 11/07/2010
    The NFL has it favorite players and teams P.Manning with the Colts and Brady with the Pats. They continue to protect these porcelain dolls which make me hate them even more. The brush to the back of Mannings helmet was a joke. The calls on the Eagles vs. Collie, just plain bogus. Eagles 26, Colts 3, NFL officials 21.
    realtruth
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:47 PM, 11/07/2010
    If ANY fines are to given out, it HAS to be the Colts Defensive back who INTENTIONALY head butted (helmet to helmet) D-Jax. The refs only gave dual penaltys out, they must of been watching Manning on the sidelines. Its almost like they way the NHL protects that stinking Crosby.
    bigphillydad
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:30 PM, 11/07/2010
    That was a crazy hard play to watch over and over again. Glad he seems ok.
    Irish148
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:17 PM, 11/07/2010
    COLLIE OBVIOUSLY DROPPED HIS HEAD INTO THE TACKLE NO PENALTY WARRANTED; BUT NFL OFFICIALS RIVAL MLB UMPIRES FOR INCOMPETENCE
    DONDEN31
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:17 PM, 11/07/2010
    COLLIE OBVIOUSLY DROPPED HIS HEAD INTO THE TACKLE NO PENALTY WARRANTED; BUT NFL OFFICIALS RIVAL MLB UMPIRES FOR INCOMPETENCE
    DONDEN31
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:15 PM, 11/07/2010
    I can live with the penalty call. The refs have the responsibility to make the decision in real time without the benefit of instant replay. My guess is that there won't be fines.
    SteveMG
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:13 PM, 11/07/2010
    This was absolutely the worst officiated game I have ever watched. These new rules make the game unwatchable.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:10 PM, 11/07/2010
    yeah, reid was an idiot as usual, but that was a catch and fumble, if igg's are fined, i smell manning rules
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:07 PM, 11/07/2010
    Call on possession was incorrect. Collie had two feet down and fumbled the ball. Call on the penalty was also incorrect. No Eagle player launched at the receiver, the helmet contact was incidental and would not have occurred if the receiver did not lower his head, also not a defenseless player move. If the referees did not interfere on the Colts behalf several times in this game, it would have been a blowout. Pitiful to see the NFL quality drop to his level - very unenjoyable. Polamalu's comments are right on.
    Soaring Eagle
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:57 PM, 11/07/2010
    Poiintyball is good game ruined by coaches who teach that the best way to win is to hurt opponents and change the rules to give every advantage to bigger players. Rules should have more teeth like game dismissal for a foul intended to hurt the opponent. Between the injuries to the head and oversized goons stuffing HGH down their throats - the life span of players will be ever shorter, not that NFL management or the fatcats at NCAA care - players are simply fodder for the advertising machine.
    salsaking
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:56 PM, 11/07/2010
    if the nfl cared about the health of the players they would make it illegal to run bent over at the waist with your head down helmet-first into a tackler.
    notojm
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:44 PM, 11/07/2010
    phillygwm is right it wouldnt have mattered. the call was terrible though.
    theeman1
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:41 PM, 11/07/2010
    It was a moot point. The penalty would have negated the turnover because the hit happened before he lost the ball. Agreed that the call was bad, though, and that was not reviewable.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:22 PM, 11/07/2010
    He would have challenged the call of incomplete pass b/c it appeared before the hit that Collie had taken 2 steps. However, the real focus should be that Collie seems to be alright, compared to how he was after that hit. I just don't remember a season when we saw this many guys getting knocked out cold on the field. Maybe they should all start using that helmet that Jackson is playing with today, that has the padding that soliders use.
    aisaac
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:22 PM, 11/07/2010
    No, but he could have challenged that Collie caught the ball, had possession, and lost possession before he was down. Bad call, bad policy; I hate to see anyone get hurt, but hey, getting hurt is part of any sport. Now you see players pulling up short before they hit someone because they are afraid of getting a penalty, fined, and or suspended. If you don't want to get hurt, don't play football! The Eagles should have had possession after that play.
    phloridaphan
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:10 PM, 11/07/2010
    jhjack: I don't think you can challenge penalties.
    davesju93
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:54 PM, 11/07/2010
    but Andy had no TOs and couldn't challenge the obvious bad call - and not he just lost his 2nd challenge -

    what a frigging dope
    jhjack
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:46 PM, 11/07/2010
    The play wasn't controversial. The bad call on it was.
    JSaq
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