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Monday, May 4, 2009
Peter King loooooves the Eagles' draft

Everybody loved the Eagles' draft. Sports Illustrated's Peter King loved the Eagles' draft. But King has posted an analysis online that walks you through the Eagles' second day draft maneuvering, all of the dizzying trades, and comes to this conclusion: 

What would you think if I told you the Philadelphia Eagles got third-, fifth-, sixth- and seventh-round draft choices, plus half a starting cornerback for nothing in this year's draft?

That's right. For free. There are no smoke, mirrors or cheating involved. Only thought and effort.

For moving down six spots in the third round -- eventually taking a player they were considering for that 85th pick anyway -- the Eagles got filthy rich. I am shocked more teams don't run their draft the way the Eagles do. It s almost irresponsible that teams don't do it the Philadelphia way.

"Actually, I'm happy more teams don't,'' said Tom Heckert, the Eagles general manager. "If more teams did, we wouldn't be able to do what we do.''

Traditionally, King loves him some Eagles. He likes the coach, likes the front office. He is spot on here, though, and it is hard to find a cynical counter-argument. It is a thorough analysis of the maneuvering and the conclusion is clear: if Cornelius Ingram really is a player they considered taking in the third round then this was intelligent theft.

 

Posted by Rich Hofmann @ 8:28 AM  Permalink | 63 comments
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Posted 02:56 PM, 05/06/2009
johnnydomino
PK Love = kiss of death
Posted 12:59 PM, 05/06/2009
john ullman
Cornelius Ingram is the steal of the draft; and Lesean McCoy is right behind him...go 'birds'
Posted 08:53 AM, 05/06/2009
tacklinjoe
Lots of picks are nice, but what counts is how many outstanding players join the team, regardless of whether they are draft picks, college players signed, or trades. And how those players perform together. If the Eagles win the next three Super Bowls, then clearly they've had some good off-seasons. Until then, we can say they're doing pretty well.
Posted 12:23 PM, 05/05/2009
porcamiseria33
The sad thing about Angelo is that he can be a really astute observer of football. Unfortunately, he has become the anti Lurie-Banner-Reid symbol and can't actually make objective assessments. The fact that he persists in criticizing this draft and harrassing those with the opposite viewpoint proves nothing other than he is the "Anti-Eskin". BTW I also hate Eskin and only listen to WIP on weekends. I also loathe Banner and Reid but will admit it when they do a good job. Rhea is not a clown. She is a synchophant.
Posted 10:08 AM, 05/05/2009
MFPhils
Ok...so it's official. Football fans are more negative then baseball fans. Wow what a kill joy...How can there be so many pansy-whiny fans attached to such a physical sport.
Posted 09:06 AM, 05/05/2009
lit22
Yes, the draft was great but I sure wish everyone would stop talking about it. All of this national attention is just assuring that the Eagles go 8-8 or 9-7 and miss the playoffs.
Posted 06:32 AM, 05/05/2009
verve
Heard on some sports show that Trotter hurt his knee and was out most of his senior year and fell to the 3rd round. Montgomery fell to the 6th(?), with a bunch of teams saying they wouldn't even take him as an unsigned rookie. Just sayin'.
Posted 04:52 AM, 05/05/2009
Nicher
Have to agree with Ahab...King is not a fan of the Eagles. He has a man-crush on Tom Brady and the Pats, and always talks up the Giants.
Posted 09:32 PM, 05/04/2009
Fritz and Alice
It was a great off season. They made some really great moves. Now, the bomb drops when they move McNabb. I think it's coming this year. I don't see them redoing his contract, and he will not play without a new deal.
Posted 09:24 PM, 05/04/2009
JACK V
peter king is a new england fan day in and day out. he's also a very NFL writer who i consider one of the best today. i read him every monday and tuesday on si.com. that said, he proves a point i've made over and over here. this eagle front office knows how to run a business and a pro football franchise including hiring the better coaches, keeping their team young and competative while paying top dollar for excellent players. they have revialized the football picture in philadelphia over the last dozen years. new statium, pratice and admin. buildings, fields and players. these philly writers and some of their comments about the front office are as shallow as their writing. to fans that want to run reid, banner and laurie out of town you should read the history of this franchise prior to the present ownership. if you need further proof ask yourself what general motors assets are and what the eagles assets are. lastly, winning a super bowl is great for about one day. then you have to start winning again which the eagles do constantly year in and year out under reid, banner and laurie.
Posted 08:30 PM, 05/04/2009
kid philly
here's the part rich left out
Posted 08:29 PM, 05/04/2009
kid philly
"This may come out the wrong way, so bear with me. But if I were a football fan looking for a team to root for, I'd pick the Eagles, and what they did on draft weekend is a big reason. The Eagles think. They don't do things the way they've always been done because that's the way they've always been done. For all the frustrations they've given their fans because they haven't won a championship in the 10-year Andy Reid Era, they've done what, as a fan, I'd like my team to do: They give their fans a chance every July at camp time to think they're going to make the playoffs and have a chance to contend for the Super Bowl. Isn't that what you want, as a fan? A chance, every year? What team every year in this decade has given you that chance? Philadelphia. New England. Indianapolis. Pittsburgh. The Giants, maybe." - Peter King.
Posted 08:24 PM, 05/04/2009
damifino
Jay Johnstone yea The Eagles Fans are the nicest and best looking fans in the NFL the Eagles Cheerleaders are hottest in the NFL. The Link is the Greatest stadium in the NFL. The Eagle blogers are the smartest! Cheese Steak sandwich is the most healthy food in the world!
Posted 08:14 PM, 05/04/2009
TheReck82
PhilaYeahbut---- It's a waste to say anything positive in this spineless decadant city. the people in this city are as pathetic as the crumbs smoking unfiltered cigarettes up and down market street.
Posted 07:42 PM, 05/04/2009
jay johnstone
Jeffrey is the best owner in the NFL. Joe Banner is the best executive in the NFL. Andy Reid is the best coach in the NFL. Donavin MacNabb is the best quarterback in the NFL. Year in and year out, the Philadelphia Eagles have the best draft in the NFL. Did I leave anything out?
Posted 07:11 PM, 05/04/2009
Chuckle Berry
Angelo is a watchdog. You don't always like the noise but he heads off a lot of trouble! And Rhea is out of your class I guess JK and NL. And even if not don't diss the chick in the blogs. Not cool. Meanwhile fans been waiting. Now we get what we wanted. Great!
Posted 06:44 PM, 05/04/2009
hawk18
Everyone positive about the birds. Imagine that!!
Posted 06:43 PM, 05/04/2009
Bubba
Great draft, lousy management when it comes to the leaders of the team. I feel that with all thats happened the amount of money needed to sign the heart and soul of the EAGLES was imperative. That the deal for him (DAWK) had to be done. Irregardless of his so called slipping ability. Have they gone blind. Just look at what he did VS. the world champ Steelers when we played them. DAWK I know you will be missed I just pray we find someone with the same heart and soul you bought us. God bless and keep you safe. When your career is over I hope the EAGLES are smart enough to hire you as a coach should that be your career choice.
Posted 05:20 PM, 05/04/2009
eagle1971
King is a longtime Giants fan. Picks em every week.
Posted 04:44 PM, 05/04/2009
phils4evr
I watched Ingram before his injury. That dude is going to be the bomb. I give the Eagles an A+ for this draft. Maclin, McCoy and Ingram, who would have dreamed??
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Posted 04:37 PM, 05/04/2009
PhillyPhantastico
No one knows if the Birds' dealing was good or not. Three years from now if Peters is a stud, Weaver has a Pro Bowl or 2, Macklin McCoy and Ingram are game breakers, Hobbs is starting or a 3rd corner, and Stacy Andrews is a quality starter and helping his brother regain PB form, then it was a great preseason. We shall see.....
Posted 04:37 PM, 05/04/2009
PhillyTrue
The Eagles did a great job in getting value in this draft. There was no way more than 3-4 drafted rookies would even make this team so why waste the picks? Instead they got players who are likely to help this year in the draft. They also got a starting left tackle in Peters AND a starting-quality corner in Hobbs for a late 1st, a late 4th, and two 5th round picks. Add in the Andrews and Weaver signings and I'm not sure there were any moves the Eagles missed that were available and would have improved the team.
Posted 03:51 PM, 05/04/2009
hueyd
i hate when people bi%%ch about the superbowl when we are just giving props on a great draft. great thing about the draft is when u finally do build a champion, u may have built a dynasty that gets a few...so relax people and enjoy a job well done....and sheldon...you keep it up and you might turn into picks real quick!
Posted 03:40 PM, 05/04/2009
hueyd
the injury and the fact he is still a bit raw..still more of a bball player, very athletic. he should de well in the league bc the eagles do a great job of developing talent. look at all the players we have had that didnt even belong in the league...eg buckhalter, ljsmith...we get the best outta young athletes. pettigrew is an offensive linemen that poses no mismatch problems (so glad we didnt grab him) and jared cook from sc is a beast..big, strong and runs like a deer. we got a great weapon, 2nd best te prospect that late in the draft. macho is an nfl corner and dont forget last year's pick jack ikeguonu is healthy.great job...philly hopefully the days of shawn bradley and mike mamula are over
Posted 03:29 PM, 05/04/2009
st
Yeah, but the Philly idiot fans will still chastise Reid and Banner calling them rubes...the rubes are the Eagle fans, whose illiteracy is only trumped by their lack of football knowledge! GO BIRDS, the real fans love this year's draft!!
Posted 03:16 PM, 05/04/2009
MaC130
Why aren't we discussing what happened to Peter King and the Montclair softball teams he coaches/coached? THAT'S THE REAL STORY
Posted 03:14 PM, 05/04/2009
Grover
No offense Rich, but why did we have to read this kind of analysis in Monday Morning QB instead of in the Inquirer a week ago? It's not like Peter King has anything else going on...
Posted 02:43 PM, 05/04/2009
MJPD345
We'll see what they put on the field come September. But honestly it looks like they pushed the envelope to a new level. At least on paper.
Posted 02:38 PM, 05/04/2009
chaz190
Rich, King's analysis was great... Why didn't any of the philly writers focus their post-draft efforts on something so useful. THis is what everyone is really looking for! - not artciles about Ellis Hobbs drawing nude males, McNabb contract gossip, and my favorites, Les' idiotic creations of animosity over postions and contracts where there are NONE!
Posted 02:21 PM, 05/04/2009
djack10
i have to tell you if the eagles invented a new role on the sideline - gameday coach -- and hired someone who could adjust to the flow of the game very well -- they would be unstoppable. Reid/Morningweig/Childress are all below avg at this and it costs the birds a few games a year and always ends their playoff drives. reid does the other parts of the job really well.
Posted 02:01 PM, 05/04/2009
dragoon6
Everything King said is true, unless the Eagles targeted TE Casey from Rice, who was taken ahead of where they picked. If he turns into an all-pro, and Dr. Cornelius flames out in two years, they will look like they outsmarted themselves.
Posted 01:48 PM, 05/04/2009
gordy
Peter King also LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVES Cheescake! Although I liked the draft. I'm cool with the Eagles trading, just not out of the first round two years in a row. Trade all you want from the third on down. That being said Angelo and company may be the lowest form of entertainment there is, they aren't funny but they make up for it by being misinformed......constantly!
Posted 01:46 PM, 05/04/2009
dmac2002
People slide in the draft, I can't believe I have to explain this. Sometimes people get drafted in the first round and they never pan out. This is what I like to call a bust. Some examples are Vince Young, Rick Mire, Tim Couch, the list keeps on going just go back and look at the past drafts. I for one have to agree Rhea stinks, hopefully she has her baby and becomes a stay at home mom and we the listners will never have to listen to her disrespect people who give their time to the show. For example when she was screaming at Joe Banner. I was embaressed for her. She needs to get her facts straight and ask questions like a lady should.
Posted 01:36 PM, 05/04/2009
Onlineps2beast
I hate that little jo-beth williams streak king has in his hair. King cant hold morts comb, or hold claytons zit cream. I'm a rare radio listener but i swear Eskin is more locked in than some of the "gurus".
Posted 01:28 PM, 05/04/2009
sprew
bmoney - Get your cliches right. As whofeelsit said, "A for effort" and the Ingram pick is clearly a low risk, high reward situtation. Think before you type.
Posted 12:41 PM, 05/04/2009
Jim M.
How come all the Philly writers and radio talk show hosts were scooped on this by Peter King? They had a week to analyze. Stop worrying about whether McNabb will talk to you and start reporting like you are supposed to do!
Posted 12:40 PM, 05/04/2009
JimG
Some people also started rumors that Ingram's knee was still hurting and so with a lot of other TEs in the the 3rd-5th round range, some teams got scared off and didn't want to take a chance. The Eagles and the Pats always do the best job of maneuvering in the draft to pick up extra draft picks.
Posted 12:33 PM, 05/04/2009
Bama
This analysis is flawed. They could have gotten Ingram in the 5th whether they used their 3rd or not. Therefore, what they traded for all this "free" stuff is whoever they could have drafted in the 3rd round - like Rashad Johnson from Alabama.
Posted 12:00 PM, 05/04/2009
KGKoons
This kid Eugene Bright, a TE too. Could it be that both he and Ingram will team with Celek and Schobel will finally be put to pasture>?
Posted 11:52 AM, 05/04/2009
ec420de
this has to kill the haters seeing us get props. go birds
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Posted 11:16 AM, 05/04/2009
nuggett
Peter King is an idiot.....who cares what the starbucks flavored coffee lover thinks...He is over rated and has been stealing money for years for his pandering as a writer...... he is a joke as a wirter and his opinion is worthless...he has not been right on so many things in the past ......yes, the EAGLES did have a good draft on paper.....but until they WIN the LOMBARDY Trophy it is jsut paper talk....Let's see if Peter holds Andy and Joe accountable at the end of this year........
Posted 11:12 AM, 05/04/2009
kujo76
The fact that this story had to come from a national writer should be an embarrassment to the local writers. What the heck do you guys do all day? No offense to you, Rich, in particular.
Posted 10:55 AM, 05/04/2009
knighn
Why didn't Terrell Davis get picked before the 6th round? Why didn't Tom Brady get picked before the 6th round? Why didn't Trent Cole get picked before the 5th round? Sometimes treasure is found in those later rounds... or even in UDFA.
Posted 10:49 AM, 05/04/2009
allrightknight
I liked their draft because they did pretty much everything I wanted them to do.
Posted 10:40 AM, 05/04/2009
JonKap
This is all fine, but how many Super Bowls have the Eagles won using this great draft system? The went to one. So in the end what is the point?
Posted 10:39 AM, 05/04/2009
jim715
yes, the eagles do a great job of hording picks...because after being under the salary cap, hording picks is their second greatest obsession... the eagles offseason was solid, but it was still aimed at being solid for future years, not for trying to win it all this season...
Posted 10:39 AM, 05/04/2009
fman727
If Ingram is healthy he will be a stud, He didnt get picked early bc 9 Tight ends went before him and teams didnt want to take a chance on a guy who missed a whole year. we could afford to do that.
Posted 10:39 AM, 05/04/2009
Nico Lange
I hate Rhea Hughes. Waste of a paycheck.
Posted 10:39 AM, 05/04/2009
Nico Lange
I hate Rhea Hughes. Waste of a paycheck.
Posted 10:26 AM, 05/04/2009
jkidd49
i didn't listen but I am sure Angelo C. had some negative comment about this. That man is utterly worthless.. He and Rhea are complete clowns.
Posted 10:19 AM, 05/04/2009
whofeelsit
The expression is "A for effort." Why would you give someone a grade of E?
Posted 09:55 AM, 05/04/2009
bmoney
Ingram dropped because of his knee. If he recovers fully and stays healthy, then it's a hit. High risk, high reward. Great pick for the birds because they have a capable tight-end, but they may have picked up a game changer.
Posted 09:52 AM, 05/04/2009
justguessing
Imagine if one of our local writers had done that kind of analysis. But that would take effort. It's way easier to just transcribe whatever some miffed player has to say. Or just copy and paste analysis from a national writer.
Posted 09:47 AM, 05/04/2009
rwright611
Give the front office an E for Effort, tremendous effort actually. But it needs to translate into success which is measured by wins.
Posted 09:39 AM, 05/04/2009
jonnyB
Ingram will contribute right away. FL is no slouch as a team.
Posted 09:36 AM, 05/04/2009
ag
ya great draft. The draft and manuvering in FA and the trading has always been a strong point for them. means nothing if it doesn't translate into a superbowl. Bring it home already!
Posted 09:36 AM, 05/04/2009
ArtieLange
If Cornelius Ingram is so great then why did none of the other 29 teams take him through 4 rounds? This is like Winston Justice "falling" to the 2nd round....maybe the Eagles value players alot higher than other teams.
Posted 09:18 AM, 05/04/2009
Ruiz the Great
These moves within the draft are good and all, but the fact remains that untill picks actually pan out, it dosen't matter. Case in point is this Maclin kid, I always agree with picking the best available instead of need, so naturally I like the pick, but then I like the Mamula pick also. Thats why they either sink or swim when they play...
Posted 09:14 AM, 05/04/2009
TheNationHimself
bring on the negadelphians who will scream we should have traded our draft away for Anquan Boldin who nobody else was trying to trade for anyway!
Posted 09:03 AM, 05/04/2009
ahab
I happen to agree with him, but Peter King has never been much of an Eagles lover. In fact I suspect he wrote this just to draw traffic to the Eagles charity package for Dr Z he mentions later in the column.
Posted 09:02 AM, 05/04/2009
dutchman
What? No one blaming this on Banner?
About Rich Hofmann
Rich Hofmann arrived at the Daily News in 1980 for a job whose status was officially designated as "full-time, temporary." A senior at Penn at the time, he was hired to fill in on the copy desk during a staff illness. The notion of him covering the Eagles or being a columnist did not exist in anyone's imagination. It was supposed to be six weeks and out, but he never left. It is only one of the reasons why so many people have concerns about him as a potential house guest. Rich has blogged the postseasons of the Flyers and Eagles.

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