Does America want the Phillies?
A columnist wonders about an ideal World Series.
Does America want the Phillies?
Rich Hofmann, Daily News Sports Columnist
( Kathy Willens)
Bill Rhoden of the New York Times offers up a little snack to fuel the fires until the Phillies and Dodgers drop the puck on Thursday night.
In a column the other day, Rhoden offered up a thesis that, truth be told, is probably the majority view in the country (and especially in the part of the country where television executives live). Along the way, he acknowledges that a Yankees-Phillies World Series would be "intriguing," as would all of the other potential matchps, for that matter.
Now for the big however:
Still, what Major League Baseball needs is a great World Series, a Series for the ages. And with all due respect to those two other potential matchups, it’s a Yankees-Dodgers World Series that could take the game back to its roots at a time when baseball desperately needs to recover a portion of the trust, if not the innocence, that it has lost in the steroid era.
You know, with all due respect.
Baseball needs a World Series for the ages, one that reinforces its roots and, yes, its relative purity. Granted, this is a lot to ask one World Series matchup to accomplish, but baseball needs an authentic fall classic.
It needs Yankees-Dodgers, for the good of the game.
You know, for the good of the game.
Yeesh.
Comments (128)
I could not possibly hate the yankees, their fans, the new york media, the mlb scheduling morons or these tv execs any more than I do now. They are terrible people. PHILLIES FOR LIFE! rePeat !!!— drumminge6- Here is one vote MLB gets exactly the opposite of what they want.... Phillies vs Angels— joeolive
- So baseball will recover its innocence that was lost in the steroid era by having Manny Ramirez and Alex Rodriguez in the World Series? That's rich.— phillyfan412
- yeah, a series that would feature A-Roid and Manny "i'm trying to get pregnant" to restore its credibility and cleanse the tarnish of the steriod era. That makes sense... what a NY tool.— fcskills
- Americans want the Yankees and Dodgers the same way they want Coke and Pepsi. It's all about branding and the herd mentality. F the spoiled Yankees fans. And seeing all the celebs at the Dodgers games makes me want to puke. If baseball is only about Yanks/Bosox/LA, then the game is really in trouble.— p-diddy
- The Yankees and Dodgers will restore purity and innocence to the game of baseball? What is that writer smoking? The Yankees best player (A-Rod) and the Dodgers most notable player (Manny) both got caught taking steroids - That article makes absolutely no sense at all - GO PHILS!!!— NEPHILLY215
- Like all of the known users that now play for the Dodgers and Yankees. Yes, that's exactly what America needs. Know what, why don't we just give Bud Selig the Nobel Peace Prize while we're at it...— Phandom
- First of all, this question was already answered last year, and the answer was no. But who really cares, as long as us fans what them, then why does it matter. Why do you dig up cr-p just to write and article?— scars73
- Forget abt it...— Barryboy
- Bulletin board material for the fans. I love it. I'm tacking this up over my TV set, so I can focus on it when I feel like switching to an "Everybody Loves Raymond" rerun during the Series.— Muckrakers
- Because nothing says purity like an Arod / Manny matchup.— flash20
- As long as there isn't any morons from New York in it, it will be good!— twpguy
- "Yankees-Dodgers World Series that could take the game back to its roots at a time when baseball desperately needs to recover a portion of the trust, if not the innocence, that it has lost in the steroid era." Are you kidding me? How many players on the Yanks have been found to have done steroids??? Yeah, exactly. Now the Dodgers. Um...wasn't Manny suspended 50 games this season for that very reason? Come on Bill Rhoden, get your head outta the smog.— ssspoooonn
- The "game" between The Phillies and The Rockies last night was simply a GREAT GAME. GREAT FOR THE SPORT, GREAT FOR MLB. However, only because the AL teams (ie: the Yanks, Red Sox, even The Angels) were all "done" - was the entire country "fortunate" enough to see them play in prime time. There is no respect for the Champs (yes, that would be the Phillies) - which, is typical. The Phillies will continue to fight, refuse to say "die" (see inning 9, game 4) and keep moving forward to defend their title. It will be such a shame to "disappoint" what is "best for the game". The Phillies don't need any extra motivation, but the utter lack of respect they get from the broadcasters, the league, and "the general populace" may actually provide some more fuel for their fire. We are goin' back to Cali...and that's just a stop along the path...— mebphila
- Wow. I don't usually post comments to articles, because most things don't get me worked up, but this article really did the trick. Bill Rhoden is off his rocker! How quickly he seems to have forgotten about Manny Ramirez's steroid indiscretions. And the Yankees and there fans are a bunch of spoiled brats. The Yankees spend twice as much money as any other team, so it comes as no surprise that they are usually competetive. The days of the Yankee lore are long gone. In my opinion, it is more interesting to see the Phillies, the team with the most losses in the history of pro sports, rise from the ashes to potentially win a 2nd straight World Series championship. Talk about improbable. Not to mention none of the Phillies have any history with performance enhancing drugs (Romero is not on the active roster). They are just a talented group of guys, with a country bumpkin manager, who play as a team, and never quit. Personally, I don't find anything remotely interesting about a Yankees/Dodgers matchup, and would likely not watch a single game of that series.— phandamonium
- Let's have a 1950 rematch. THAT would bring baseball back to its "innocent days." Phils can also pay the Yanks back for that 4-zip sweep. Plus, we'd still get to see the 352 gratuitous Kate Hudson shots FOX will undoubtedly show.— mikemac1
- After the Pirates won the World Series in 1979, and the Phillies won the World Series in 1980, writers said we needed another Yankees-Dodgers World Series, for the good of the game, and naturally the 1981 World Series was between the Yankees and the Dodgers.— Gnip Gnop
- Absolutely stupifying!— conway86
- What baseball "needs" is continuity, a great team that repeatedly gets to the respective sport's championship round a la 90s Chicago Bulls or late 90s Yankees or '00 Patriots. And I think the Phils will soon be in that strata. I, for one, revel in the thought of a NY vs PHL championship. Heaven knows there are enough NYers all around. NYC's cultural and social aspects are pervasive here and I'd like to slay the NYC monkey in a final battle since it'll never happen in football (unless it's the Jets - ha!), basketball or hockey.— hankOceann
- Like most in the journalism industry today, this guy is obviously lost in space.— jalinsgs
- America, meet Ryan Howard.— dgm41
- who cares what the rest of the country wants... I just want the Phillies in the World series vs. either of the two AL teams... bring it on!— EndTheDrought
- phillyfan412, you hit the nail on the head. 2 of the most dishonest and self-centered players of this era, and we're supposed to get all sentimental. At no time should their names and the word "pure" be used in the same sentence unless it is used to contrast the meaning of the word.— ematusko
- Yes...a series with two of the most prominent steroid abusing stars facing off is exactly what baseball needs to regain the trust!!??? What a moronic statement...though not unexpected from the NYT rag.— cujat13
- Yeah, Yankees and Dodgers, all that is pure about baseball. The best players on both teams, Manny Ramirez and Alex Rodriguez, have both been caught cheating...all that is pure about baseball.— CoreyMcFarland
Just like the Subway Series right? That one tanked in the ratings because everyone said the heck with NY.
Comment removed.- Maybe they've got Sanjay Gupta ready for the Fox booth to provide "expert" analysis on the effects of man (or in Manny's case, woman) juice...what a joke...Let's Go Phils!!!— wvbillz
- Why can't us again?— jpb
- Phillies Angels. 2 teams that lost members of their Baseball Family this year. Better story line than NY & LA. The Dodgers sold out to money in 1957. Can't bring back the old NYC rivalry.— JimB
- What would be great is for the Phillies to BEAT THE SNOTout of the dodgers first and the yankees second if the yankees beat the angels. Whoever wrote this must think the angels aren't even going to show up. This columnshould be read to every Phillies player. Did this idiot so called journalistforget these are the Reigning WORLD CHAMPION PHILLIES? GO PHILLIES REPEAT!!!!!!!!!— VegasEagleFan
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- lets hope for Phillies/Angels, so the spoiled Ny fans can be on the outside looking in. Along with the Fans of the NY transplant Dodgers. Although I'd enjoy seeing the Phillies beat the Yankees. F NY— phlyguyswfla
- its obvious that we are slighted by the media powers that be look at the schedule they have the Phillies playing early afternoon late night come on while the Yankee's and the Dodgers get prime time so much for being world champs— bobg1812
- Why would you start an article on baseball with "drop the puck"? You must be running out of baseball cliches.— sofa_butt
- Yeah, like forcing teams to play baseball under horrible conditions? For the good of the game, my....— pog
- Yes, that's exactly what the game needs: a World Series featuring mercenaries and juicers. Maybe what MLB really needs is somebody who can write about it with some actual intelligence and feel for the game. Bill Rhoden would not appear to be that person.— wooderice
- A Yankees/Dodgers matchup would lead to a series of "relative purity"?I don't get the thinking behind that, other than he wants the two biggest market teams to play. On one hand, there is the Phillies with a clean history (can't intelligently comment on all of the Angels), and on the other hand is the Dodgers with Manny and the Yankees with current members A-Roid and Pettite who have admitted steroid use. Man.— bwillie
- Copies of Rhoden's article should be pasted all over the Phil's and Angel's clubhouses throughout the championship series. It's insulting to all players (who are clean!) on those teams.— androoo
- Did anyone else notice how excited the TBS broadcasters got when Colorado took the lead in the bottom of the 8th and how "ho-hum" they were when the Phillies took the lead back in the 9th? I was glad when the Phillies spanked that Colorado a** to shut them up, and will enjoy it even more when we do the same to the Dodgers AND Yankees. Kiss my Philly loving a** Bill Rhoden and TBS. World F&*#$*% Champions. Go Phightins.— flyerdup
- Rich - nothing like stirring the pot on an off day... way to go...— M60tanker
- Take us back to Baseball's roots? How about a team which has been around since 1883? How about a team which has remained in the same city and kept the same name longer than any other sports franchise in North American sports? But that's if you're truly interested in restoring "roots." The Dodgers have only been in LA for a half century and the Yankees are almost 20 years younger than the Phils.— Ski Fast
- Take us back to Baseball's roots? How about a team which has been around since 1883? How about a team which has remained in the same city and kept the same name longer than any other sports franchise in North American sports? But that's if you're truly interested in restoring "roots." The Dodgers have only been in LA for a half century and the Yankees are almost 20 years younger than the Phils.— Ski Fast
- Take us back to Baseball's roots? How about a team which has been around since 1883? How about a team which has remained in the same city and kept the same name longer than any other sports franchise in North American sports? But that's if you're truly interested in restoring "roots." The Dodgers have only been in LA for a half century and the Yankees are almost 20 years younger than the Phils.— Ski Fast
- Take us back to Baseball's roots? How about a team which has been around since 1883? How about a team which has remained in the same city and kept the same name longer than any other sports franchise in North American sports? But that's if you're truly interested in restoring "roots." The Dodgers have only been in LA for a half century and the Yankees are almost 20 years younger than the Phils.— Ski Fast
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- yeah, a return to innocence and a simpler time. when exactly in the "golden days of baseball" did a team need to spend over 200 million dollars to win a title. there isnt any innocence in baseball anymore. the angels are the only team left in the playoffs without a player on their roster who has been suspended for drug violations.— matts01
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- I , living in SoCal and a Philly fan for 60 yrs., would love an Angels-Phils WS. Frankly, unless you are a brain dead leftist Keith Olmberman, does anyone care what the NYTimes says on any issue? Apparently they are losing readers by the ton. And they deserve it.— KGKoons
- I guess Rhoden doesn't know that Mickey and the Duke aren't in New York anymore. The days of Casey Stengel and Leo Durocher are gone. MLB wants those tow team, not America. America is getting sick and tired of only seeing the Yankees and Red Sox all the time. Which makes me again wonder why Romero was offered 25 games if he left before last year's playoffs and the end of the season when the Mets wrere still in first, but got 50 games when he appealed. It's always New York. I like the Yankees, they were my second favorite team as a kid growing up. My brother and I always tried to get #7, Mickey's number, when we played. I'd like nothing more than the Philles to beat them this year. But enough with what the league and networks and bums like Rhoden want.— mike l
- Who cares what America wants? It's about what Philly wants !— Super_5ive
- What nonsense! Yes, A-Rod and Manny deserve to be in the World Series because they've had such a tough year, getting busted taking steroids and all, lol. The Yankees would destroy the Dodgers. The Dodgers have no starting pitching. Other than Manny, the Dodgers don't have one truly marquee player on their roster (although they've got some future stars like Kemp, Ethier and Broxton). The Phils and Yanks played a great series earlier in the season and the Phils-Angels would be a great match-up as well. Nobody outside of So Cal roots for the Dodgers...they haven't done anything in 20 years. But you know what, this is the same media-contrived nonsense that we had last year. The national media wants a Yankees-Dodgers match-up. The public doesn't necessarily feel that way. So I hope the national media continues to disrespect and write-off the Phils like they did last year so the Phils can continue to make them eat their words. Go Phightin Phils!— JimG
- Aside from the obvious nonsense about Steroids, don't the Dodgers take us back to the heyday of when teams would simply pack up their uniforms, bats, and balls and sneak off to an area of the country where they could make more money?— fmMD
- Huh? Let me get this right. The idiot reporter in NY wants "purity" of a Dodgers/Yankees WS. Hmmm, let me see.....Manny Ramirez and A-Rod are so pure indeed. I'd love to see the Phillies v. the Yankees but articles like that make me hope for an Angels/Phillies series. Hey NY: the world and US doesn't revolve around the two largest cities on the US coasts.— stop2think
- C'mon people, are you really surprised by this? I'm a transplant living in L.A. so of coure I want to see a Phils/Angels WS. And while I question the objectivity of the NY Times, you know damn well that MLB would much rather see New York/Los Angeles WS, the number 1 and 2 markets, respectively. Two storied franchises, 2 highly marketed teams, more TV viewership among "casual" sports fans, more advertising dollars, etc, etc. Let's hope the Phils spoil their plans ;-)— scooterj
- Yeah they need the Yankees and Dodgers in the World Series to get over the steroid controversay. That makes no sense. You want the two poster boys for steroids playing each other in the World Series. Manny Ramirez and Alex Rodriguez.— MoKev
- I think Bill Rhoden needs some of these great comments put directly in his ear. Here's the address to his article. E-mail: wcr@nytimes.com— Slidewell
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- I remember that guy from the Sports Reporters. He was always saying things that didn't make sense. Ignore him. Who cares what he thinks?— phink
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- i really wouldn't worry or get mad over what a new york newspaper writer puts on paper etc. who cares except a philly writer who wishes he was in new york. how important is the l.a. market? they don't even have a pro football team nor does any owner or potential owner want to move there. fact is, taxpaying citizens are leaving that state in droves.— JACK V
- why does it matter, everyone watching football. check the ratings. despite the eagles playing the pathetic bucs in a week 5 game at home that meant nothing, they had better rating than the phillies. football rules!— mosquito killer
- Wow, it's amazing how totally neurotic folk (NYers) can convince themselves of anything. A-Roid vs Manny Roid in the Roid Series would get back our innocence and dignity? Instead of Ryan Howard, the greatest NATURAL power hitter of our times? PALEAZE!— vman12
- Any real man in N.Y., Bill Rodent doesn't qualify, would want to win the title from the current champ. Stick Rodent in landfill along with his publication.— Claudio Vernight
- The Yankees would sweep the Dodgers...how is that a great series? Padilla and Wolf are not Koufax and Drysdale, so the epic series he dreams of is just that...a dream.— booman55
New Yorkers still consider the Dodgers a NY team. They like nothing more than to see NY teams slug it out as the rest of the world gazes in at their superiority and the producers (NY based) rack up their ad dollars...up theirs. I am rooting for the Phillies-Angels.
I hope next year is Twins in their open air stadium against the Rockies and it freezes the whole time.— burholme- well this is,( as always )..about ratings.if it were about ol' school, and purists, yanks -dodgers would be ok......but don't disrespect the angels,and the defending ws champions, OUR PHILLIES.THEY'RE IN THIS TOO.rhoden,this is about who wins their league pennant, and may the best teams who win that play in the world series..fans around the country ,if u took a poll ,don't want us there..but who cares? we're going back and get another championship, and the country can love it or cry next year.............here we come america,the PHILLIES........— t_darb_56
- Note to Mr. Rhoden. ESPN and Fox Sports are not America.— Rombo
- The "relative purity of baseball" is just rhetorical vogue for nostalgia = TV ratings. The only way the Phillies will make it into the national consciousness is by winning. Even so, Philadelphia will never be LA or NY. And who cares? Better to be praised by those who know the sport than by bandwagon know-nothings.— philly_in_DC
- who cares what rhoden says the teams that plays the best all around will make it to the MLB championship series, rhoden is in n.y. of course he want's to see the yankees in the series but don't give me that good of the game nonsense.— only 9
- Guys, you mentioned Arod and manny, but lets not forget that great friend Andy Petite who only took it once! anyone believe you only do something like that once? Then you get the Joba rules and get to here about them every game! what has he really done that he deserves that much press? And Burnett and CC have never won a big game yet?— Yourkidding
- MLB has such a jealousy man-crush on the NFL and NBA and their TV ratings that it gets in the way of selling a good product with talented players who aren't in the Bronx or Chvez Ravine. I remember a season or two that in the span of the same week Fox televised ESPN televised the Yankees at Red Sox on a Saturday, ESPN had the Yankees at the Red Sox the next day on Sunday Night Baseball. ESPN offered a little more variety on Wednesday by having the Red Sox at the Yankees. Baseball is hurting itself by not presenting other teams on national telecasts and giving time to talented teams like the Phillies. Brewers, Texas Rangers, Detroit Tigers, the Giants, and players like Prince Fielder, Josh Hamilton and Troy Tulowiski. And MLB needs to stop treating the Yankees and the Red Sox like their the World Series champions in years that they aren't. Hey Bud Selig, ya know there's an entire country between NYC and LA? You might want to visit it sometime.— phillyfandc
- Typical - to the power elite the country consists of New York, L.A., and maybe S.F. and Chicago. The rest of the country exists solely to provide them with labor and our daughters. I love New York the city, but the attitude that if *their* interests are threatened & the party might be ending, it's reasonable to cut a multi-trillion dollar check, but if poor people need health care ther's no money is revolting. Aggghhhh, forget it. Go PHILLIES!!!!— kingraoul3
- Laying the groundwork I see to whine about umpiring, "MLB told the umps to win it for the Dodgers!" Oh yeah the Phillies also never had any roiders!
- Any objective observer would say that the Phillies have a way more interesting and exciting team than the Dodgers, and much more name recognition once you get past Manny.— GPG13
- That's comical. Baseball needs to restore trust by having players with steroid histories in the World Series. I guess writing for the New York Times doesn't really require the ability to reason.— pgcd3
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- so a team full of "clean" players who "got a weight lifted off their shoulders" is better for renewed faith than a collection of players never even IMPLICATED in steroid use not only winning but repeating as champions of baseball? phillies-angels, battle of the teams playing for someone who has passed away? phillies yankees, battle of the clean champions vs the kind of "redeemed" because its been 3 months since they used? dodgers yankees is the weakest of all actually.— aam13
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- Which explains why the Phils got screwed with game times in the NLDS. And what's with the Friday 4pm start? Lame, but who cares, when the Phillies beat the Dodgers and then repeat as champs we will ALL be laughing at New York!— paulpaz
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- Only if the Dodgers were still in Brooklyn....maybe!— WPhillyguy
- Manny and A-rod have both tested positive correct? How the heck is that pure? The closest the phils have come to scandal was Romero's mishap of the league telling him he could take something and then suspending him for it.— cjscampbell
- they also wanted a red sox/dodgers series last year and got the complete opposite...heres rooting for the same to happen this year..GO PHILS! and angels— PhillySports23
- Yankees/Dodgers- yeah, right. What has either team done? Nothing. The Phillies are World Champs, and they showed why last night. They will repeat, and you can bet neither aforementioned team wants to play them.— lehphillyfan
- Yankees vs Dodgers? Har de har har! GO PHILLIES!!!— Mr. Bear
Is their anything less meaningful in sports than a bought and paid for championship?— jmc- Epic fail. Why have a regular season or 2 playoff rounds? After all the 2 highest-paid teams must know what's good for America, right????— Paul B
- Barry Boy, get it Right! Its "FHAGETABOTIT"— Truphillyfan
- At least Rhoden didn't drag race into this issue.— Jerome99RIP
- Who cares what MLB or the rest of the country wants? It's like when the Bills went to 4 Super Bowls in a row. The country complained about it but the Bills and their fans were happy (except for the outcomes). This is about us!! WE want the Phils in the World Series and WE will enjoy it!! Go Phils!!— TexColorado
- The Yankees are baseball's version of the "axis of evil." Their yearly attempt to buy a World Series is bad for baseball and is a major contributor to baseball's loss of innocence. Here's hoping the Angels crush them!— Neal Obstat
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- They're all mercenaries playing for the highest bidder. Their loyalties are to themselves because the "teams" only view them as machines to be used and then discarded when the next emerging talent becomes available. That sounds an awful lot like a "temp" job to me, even if it does pay something insanely high. It doesn't make sense to be a fan of any "team" any more, only a fan of individual players. They all know this, how come most fans don't?— Ticogringomike
- More self-righteous nonsense from the New York media— MARCONE
- Man, Phillies can get no respect, not to mention the other teams that are still playing. Just witnessed one of the most entertaining series in awhile. We don't need no stinking Yankees or Dodgers to bring anything back. BR put down the bong you dope.— gdwilkinson
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- Have a heart, somewhere in a small shanty in the Bronx, there is a young boy, perhaps 9 or 10, who never saw the Yankees win a World Series. Have a heart. (by the way, the same boy can't afford cable, so he missed the first round)— eres
- First we get screwed with day games by MLB, NOW THIS!!! WE'RE THE REIGNING WORLD CHAMPIONS, SHOW SOME RESPECT!!!!— Dadair1
- Why would you want respect from the mlb execs? In the last 20 years they've allowed the NFL to surpass them in popularity, further reduce popularity through a greed induced strike, only to regain said fan base through announcing to players (and a generation)that it's okay to juice. Why are teams like the Red Sox, Patriots, Eagles and whomever Lord Favre plays for considered great national tv draws despite not being top 3 markets nor historically great franchises? Because the stories surrounding the teams, players, and cities have cracked through to the mavens in our media centers who find them worthy to market properly and consistently. A mostly American, ethnically diverse, clutch, power hitting team poised to be the other New York team's rival(i.e. Red Sox South) for the next 5 years? Not worthy of MLB's investment to provide proper exposure for in order to create another team that is a great national draw (because that didnt work for the Cowboys and Steelers). Of course not, that kind of growth is for the NFL. These guys have spent the last 10 years going to cocktail parties with the people running Wall Street and DC, and seem to understand the country almost as well.— laurent
- Hope the umpires forgot to read this column otherwise Hamels & Lee won't be throwing many strikes.— Pantaphobia
f**k the yankees , f**k the Dodgers , f**k Bud Seilig , f**k the tv execs for the crass disrespect they showed the World Champions , REPEAT !!!!— PAEnglish- Comment removed.
- I'm with joeolive. I want Phils-Angels. I can even stomach the Phils losing to the Angels. Not the Yankmees.— Dave14
- It's sarcasm folks. The writer repeats the mantra of baseball going back to its "roots" and "for the good of the game" several times. The two teams (Yankees and Angels) each have one of the most vaunted steroid-using players in the game on their respective roster.— PGHMAN
- Absolutely smells like "homerism"! Agreed that MLB does not give any respect to the Phils. Perfect example was the open afternoon spot for TV (yanks and LA had swept) that would have allowed the game to be played in reasonable temperatures. But no chance for the Phils/Rocks. You can bet if it was NY, the change would have been made so fast there would have been a sonic boom. Just because....lets have a Phils/Angels WS.....Go Fightins'— 32streetrat
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- The only people that a Yankee, Dodgers Series would be great for are dodger and Yankee fans. Was it not enough that we had to endure the Yankees on TV EVERY WEEKEND. I thought that the OVERCOVERAGE of a so so ballclub was crazy. The Phillies will show these overpaid pampered steroid users what the game is about. GO PHILLIES !!!— phillyroni
- Are Obama and Bud Selig distant cousins????? They sure think alike...STUPID!!!!!!!— philly fan in cheyenne
- Just what we need, a World Series featuring the two most selfish, self-centered players in baseball history. Shouldn't the series be about the love of the game? Oh right, we're talking about corporate media. The series should about the players who are in as a team and want to win for the team and the fans. Hmm...sounds just like the Phillies. Bottom line is these guys can all write and say whatever they want. The Phillies will do what they always do which is to prove them all wrong. I think they're happy doing just that. GO PHILS!— michsok
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- Phandamonium, I agree whole-heartedly. What's better for baseball than a team who falls behind and never quits and through sheer talent and determination, is able to win. No drugging, just a hard-working bunch of guys repreenting a hard-working blue collar city...the American Dream...right?— leftistqueen
- The Philadelphia Phillies have never relocated, unlike the Brooklyn/Los Angeles Dodgers. They have more "roots" and "innocence" than any dodgers or yankees team. And besides, who cares what the rest of the country wants- WE want the Phillies! Go Phightins!— Bud Fox
- Will Ramirez, A-Roid, and all the other "pure" players participating in Rhoden's dream series hold hands and ask for forgiveness prior to the first pitch? While we're at it, let's take a moment to celebrate the Steinbrenners' dismissal of Joe Torre! Ah, the purity of the game!— frankenslade
- i'm strangling my computer screen right now...— bung
- Dodgers Yanks an interesting matchup? What is so interesting about Randy Wolf possibly starting game 1 of the world series? The phils/yanks would be infinitely more interesting AND when the phils win, it will silence the critics, and start the dawn of a new era with the Philadelphia Phillies as the new baseball dynasty.— jphil
- If there was any justice (sadly, there isn't) the network would broadcast the episode where several of the Phillies ran out on the field to help the grounds crew pull the tarp on the field in a windstorm, in an opposing team's stadium, while the home team (either the Padres or Dodgers) sat in the clubhouse! That was a true act of selflessness by a team these seems to exhibit a ton of class. Until that time, this casual fan paid little attention to baseball or the Phillies. Now I root for this team, win or lose. If the rest of America saw more things like that, from this or other teams, THAT could "recover a portion of the trust" lost in the steroid/unrepentant jerk era of baseball. The same goes for the team across the street. The Eagles may not have the Lombardi yet (and no one wants to see that more than I do) but at least you can root for them, win or lose, without having to shower with lye and Brillo pads afterward. Fans forget that "win at all costs" leads inevitably to deals with the devil, and all the scandal that goes with them. Ramirez, A-Rod, the Cowboys, and their like may win championships, but their stink is like a landfill in August. Show a little faith and, when the good guys win, it is that much sweeter.— rluderitz
- Purity of the game? Ridiculous. If there was purity in the past, it was during the period before players started earning tens of millions to play baseball. I like to watch baseball, but the players/agents have turned it into an entertainment business.— hohenheim1
- rluderitz...the Phils helped the grounds crew in Colorado (that was amazing, wasn't it). flyerdup...you took the words out of my mouth. Go Phillies....repeat!— Valley Girl
- In addition I feel the media just wants to spend their days covering the World Series in larger more glitzier towns instead of 'small town' Philly.— hohenheim1
- Valley Girl...I stand corrected. Yeah, it was cool!— rluderitz
- It's so funny that the Phils get no respect for being the World Champions. I was listening to ESPN radio last night. They were playing quotes from the Yankees, Angels, and Dodgers players and managers. Not one Phillies quote. They even gave headline updates on the Red Sox closer situation. The last time I checked they choked.— tonytony32
- I want the Phillies to face and sweep the Yankees to avenge the humiliation of 1950, you Old time Phillies Fans will recall this. I want this not because Iam a Phillies Fan but because Iam a Red Sox Fan, and anytime the Yankees get humiliated it makes my heart sing. By the way Rockies should have won game 4, they choked pure and simple.No way Street should have been put in such a critical spot, he had not fully recovered from his injuries. Now this is not to say Rockies would have won the series, but who knows. Iam glad the Yankees will be playing the Phillies in the series. You heard it here first Phillies in 4— bizofjim
- Rhoden's still at the T-ball level. Someone should steal his crayons so he can't write any more gibberish about the big games.— vclancy
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