Rock bottom? The Eagles can only hope
LANDOVER, Md. -- And so, as they say at the moment the ripcord is being pulled, "Look out beloooooooow."
Rock bottom? The Eagles can only hope
Rich Hofmann, Daily News Sports Columnist
LANDOVER, Md. -- And so, as they say at the moment the ripcord is being pulled, “Look out beloooooooow.”
You would like to think that the Eagles have hit bottom, but there is no reason to believe that is true. That is how bad things have gotten. They just got walloped by a bad Washington Redskins team, 31-6, and there still are six games left to play. There is no telling what depths they might still reach.
The Eagles are 3-7. They have lost six in a row. You have to go back to the mid-1990s, to the days of Rich Kotite before the fall, to recall such a stretch of uninterrupted ineptitude. Think about that for a second. On second thought, don’t.
You forget what it feels like, the pointlessness of it all when two bad teams enter the arena and two bad teams leave the arena, the only difference being that one leaves with a meaningless victory and the other with a loss that validates every terrible thing you have thought about them. Because that is where the Eagles are. Sunday was epic validation.
They could not overcome a myriad of mistakes on offense, some the responsibility of rookie quarterback Nick Foles but many more that could be assigned to others. Foles threw two interceptions, one a bad throw and the other that clanged off of the hands of tight end Brent Celek, who is officially having an awful season. But the bigger problems came along the again-reconstituted offensive line, where every manner of drive-killing penalty was committed along the way.
I mean, who would have guessed that right guard Jake Scott, signed off the street only 6 days before starting the game, would have trouble with the snap count?
On defense, they made a couple of laughingly bad plays in pass coverage that led to two embarrassing touchdowns thrown by Redskins rookie Robert Griffin III. The first, a 49-yard touchdown to a wide open Adrick Robinson -- wide like the width of Tennessee -- came on a play where Eagles cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha was expecting safety help that never materialized. The second, a 61-yarder to the venerable Santana Moss, came on a play where safety Kurt Coleman was in position to intercept the pass but monumentally bollixed up the attempt. Then, for good measure, Brandon Boykin failed to make the tackle short of the end zone.
But the piece of the play that might speak most to how bad things have become is this: a flag was down on the play in the backfield, and Eagles defensive tackle Cullen Jenkins was mocking Griffin’s touchdown celebration because he assumed the penalty was on the Redskins. Alas, it was illegal hands to the face on the Eagles instead.
Alas.
With 1:45 remaining in the game, running back LeSean McCoy was tackled helmet-to-helmet on a running play and did not get up. He took off his helmet and sat up, but they brought a cart out onto the field to bring him to the locker room. It was an awful bit of punctuation.
Finally, people will ask if Andy Reid should be fired immediately. After a game such as this one, there is only one way to look at it. If Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie fires Reid now, it will only be because he likes him so much that he wants to put him out of his misery.
Comments (199)
The WHOLE team SUCKS! Fire the WHOLE team! PERIOD!!!— Phillyfan666- Fire everyone except Marty Morningweg. — Realtor in Orlando
- Exactly. He should be promoted to Head Coach. He is surgical as an offensive coordinator and even better as a head coach.
- Morningweg's play calling sucks, always has. He should be the dirst to go. He flopped in Detroit and he has flopped here. — Dave in Wect Chester
- Mornhinweg is part of the problem, not the solution. The terribly predictive play-calling and unbalanced run/pass attack have lead the team to be 29th in the league in scoring, averaging just 17.3 points per game. Anyone sitting at home knows that we will pass on first down (typically, a failed big play), run up the gut on second (usually for a loss/Shady is a wonderfully talented back, but Earth to Andy/Marty NOT a power rusher) and then a desperation pass on third down (which lately, seems to end in a sack or turnover). If we know it, you can bet your bottom dollar that the DC's watching our film are well-prepared for what we will attempt and ready to stop it. Our leaky O-line cannot protect a QB long enough to set up the big play nor create a hole for a RB to sneak between the tackles. However, despite these shortcomings, Marty has failed to adapt. Instead, insisting on running the same, old, tired, failed plays over and over again. In this league, it is adapt or die. That's why he, too, must go. — FlyingBoodles
- zzzz— Reality Speaks
- Wait 'til next year!
I mean, 2014!
Make that 2015. . .— clayboy - The sad part is that if the team had stayed healthy and Reid didn't pull the trigger to fire Castillo, the team could have been something. Say what you want, but Vick would have played much better if his line protected him. And the defense started off very strong. But excuses can only go so far. We could say that Roethlisberger, Stafford, Ryan, and Brees can make any defense look bad, but Griffin shouldn't. I was a big supporter of Reid, but even I can read the writing on the wall.— trungy
- Now all the Vick haters will become Foles haters because they would have won this season on their Madden game.
Realistically, this team is at least 5 starters short of the playoffs.— banned - MORE LIKE 21 STARTERS SHORT. THIS TEAM HAS ONLY 1 NFL CALIBER PLAYER - MCCOY. THAT'S IT. — bedpan
- Banned, I agree. Why don't I see comments on Foles performance last night. After all, he was the savior. Could it be that he couldn't do any better because of the OL. The same OL that Vick played behind. Maybe double standards, or maybe just plain old haters. — TeamSupport
- Reid should have been fired after the Lions game. To fire him now won't save the season. This is a 3-13 squad like the 1998 Eagles. Foles=Bobby Hoying and there is no Donavan McNabb in the draft to brighten the future of this team. Philly sports are in the toilet right now.— Repubrebirth
- I want Reid to stay and have to experience every single loss. Why should he be put out of his misery when the rest of us have to put up with the mess he caused. Let the rest of the NFL see what a wonderful coach he is as his team continues to lose.— mindstorms
- i don't know why people waste their time watching the Eagles.. I spend my sunday afternoon performing yard work and clean up, and feel better for it..— USAFirst1
- Very interesting. What a douch****. — Jabey
- I THINK THAT USAFirst IS REALLY tpizza. BECAUSE NOW THAT tpizza ALONG WITH HIS FRIENDS laughingloud123, tneaglefan and callyouout HAVE ALL BEEN EXPOSED AS KNOW-NOTHING DOPES, THEY (RSPECIALLY THE BIGGEST DOPE tpizza) ARE PROBABLY NOW DOING LOTS OF YARD WORK. — bedpan
- "i don't watch the games. i do yardwork. but then i go leave comments on internet articles about the game; making sure everyone knows that i was instead doing yardwork."
— AlexSp - ACTUALLY THE REAL FUN IS RIPPING THE KNOW-NOTHING, ANDY REID APOLOGISTS (tpizza, laughingaloud123, tneaglesfan, callyouout, etc.) THAT FOR MONTHS WERE ON THIS SITE YAPPING ABOUT HOW THIS EAGLES' SQUAD WAS A SB TEAM. — bedpan
No, Rich. I do not think they have hit their bottom yet. Incredible, but further degradation and humiliation await these sad sacks. I'm so sick and woozy right now that I feel like wandering across a highway at rush hour. For the love of God, put us out of our misery!!- Alas.......the end is NOW! Everybody wanted Nick Foles, eh? HAH! What did he do? Was he better than the Mike Vick Experience? Apparently not looking at that score. Looks like Foles wasn't the answer, was it haters? Looks like the Eagles O line was as bad as advertised, wasn't it you hood waring clowns out there? Oh too bad.....too bad! The Eagles may as well just close it down for the rest of the season due to inability. They no longer want to play for Fat Andy! Good night Jeff Luridiculous......wherever you are!!! HAH!— Panthro2011
- Talk about Philly playing bad.....This isen't even a team! Good job Washington! Really made Philly cry today! The tissues are flying off shelves right now!!!!!!— MRD
- Now....for all you racist out there that continued to rant and rave that Vick was the problem despite ALL EVIDENCE pointing towards the offensive and defensive lines, you got exactly what you deserved. You Philly fans are a bunch of insufferable creeps, point blank period.— Minnesota VICKings
- Andy really should be released. He is not coming back. The longer he stays the more vitriol he absorbs. Better to get on with the future, for all concerned.— Andy in E-town
- They have it the bottom thats for sure! They won't win again this year. I am really glad that I played golf while they were on. No more wasted Sundays watching the Eagles...well until Andy is fired!— JJReid
- It must have been awful. I was going to watch it on the internet. We got the Tampa Bay / Carolina game here. But, when I noticed that the Eagles were losing 7-0 LESS THAN 2 MINUTES INTO THE GAME, I thought otherwise. Glad I did. Surprisingly, the Tampa and Jacksonville games were competitive. And I thought Florida football stunk.
— TexColorado - Hey, if Kotite is the symbol for failure where does that leave Reid? Kotite was 36-28 between 91 and 94 that's a .562 WP. Reid is 32 - 25 between 2009 to today. That is also a .562 WP.— Unstable1
- actually thats not accurate. Kotite at least won ONE playoff game in that time frame while andy has been 0-2. Meaning Kotite was actually 37-28 with Andy an even worse 32-28 with 0 playoff wins. THAT IS PATHETIC. JEFFREY WHY WAIT. TAKE OUT THE GARBAGE. ITS STINKING UP THE ENTIRE PHILADELPHIA REGION. ALSO REMEMBER TO ALWAYS RECYCLE.
- Let the crying begin!!!!!!!!!!!!— MRD
- It's over….we all know that.
Who could and should run this franchise with credibility and dignity?
Ray Didinger.
Join "Just Give The Keys To Ray" on Facebook.
www.facebook.com/JustGiveTheKeysToRay— ArtMooney - Time to plan for the draft pick.— schlippg
- Why fire Reid at this point? Play out the season and hope for a good draft pick and clean house at the end of the year.— meteo30
Mr. Lurie I beg of you to change the teams name from the Philadelphia Eagles to the Philadelphia Bottom Feeders.— SedatedManiac- I said after the first couple of 1-point wins, we'd all be wishing they were losses by the end of the year. Might as well get a better draft pick.— phillyborn4
- This team doesn't play hard, doesn't have heart, and probably won't win another game. At this point you have to hope your futility gets you high enough on the draft board to get it turned around. There does not, however, look like there is a Luck type player out there....— iskabobpatel
- Come on, Minnie, you can dislike Vick for what he did, or dislike him for being overpaid and nonperforming, without being a racist. Face it, line or no line, he's been mediocre since his hot start last year, and shares blame, along with the line and playcalling, for the offensive failures this year. I applaud his personal and athletic comeback, but he's done here.— Eephus
- Fans begging for Foles now realize that preseason doesn't count for a reason. Don't blame Foles; the Vick haters wanted the kid rushed.— tony11
- Eagles have QUIT....get rid of all these high priced Dream team losers.— jim35
- Oh that was a hell of a game. Enjoyed every minute of ineptitude. What a bonus. Andy will be gone, Vick will be gone and we should have a top 10 draft pick. Can't wait until I get my Eagles back. I hear an Eagles chant coming on E-A-G-L-E-S Eagles!!!!— woody7236
- The Flyers are going to win a game before the Eagles do.— AreaMan
- See what you people don;t understand is that Michael Vick is the PROBLEM, and Nick Foles is the ANSWER! LMAO Yeah right!— Minnesota VICKings
- What see in this game are the same reasons Vick was having problems. A horrible offensive line and changing quarterbacks isn't going to change that!— jhop
- Guess he's not the answer!
GOOD GRIEF!— BEMiller - We will be a doormat for years to come if this regime is here next year. Time for Lurie to cut the cord now or do everyone a favor S E L L !— d1955h
- We will be a doormat for years to come if this regime is here next year. Time for Lurie to cut the cord now or do everyone a favor S E L L !— d1955h
- Its funny how a week ago all you fans want Foles as your best Qb...after today...he does nothing for your loser team! Goes to show you how bad your team really is! So sorry your in Philly and an Eagles fan...better you than me!— MRD
- Lurie has too much class to fire Reid mid-season. That's a shame. And Vick will never be embraced here. This "open-minded" Democrat-laden city of bleeding-heart lib hypocrites cares more about pets than a man's redemption through honest effort. Besides, the team is dreadful. Aaaron Rodgers would struggle with this team!— filzfan
- I used to be an Eagles fan for 40 + years. When they lost the 2nd SB I came to the realization that the Eagles were never going to win a SB and never will. As each year passes, I'm glad I made that decision to stop being an Eagles fan. I'm just wondering when more Eagles fans will come to the same conclusion.— kmj
- You supposedly stopped being an Eagles fan. Yet, you're here posting. — jman
- lower than a pig s sty....— hardball
- I also posted this on the other thread-just so disgusted........
Looks like our newest SAVIOR got CRUCIFIED-QB rating=40.5
As for Nick -welcome to REAL game action.2 INTS could have had 3 more.
WHATS WRONG WITH THE EAGLES? Here is one BIGGIE from FIRST to LAST IN 3 GAMES NOW 4.
""So ... maybe JUAN CASTILLO WAS NOT the problem in Philly.
Before Andy Reid fired his previous defensive coordinator, the Eagles had the league's BEST defensive
COMPLETION percentage against passes thrown 10 yards or more.
Since former secondary coach TODD BOWLES took over a couple weeks back, same defense has allowed over 70
percent of such passes to be completed.NOW THE WORST in the NFL.TODAY RG3-QB RATING 158.3!-SO MUCH FOR
THROWING JUAN UNDER THE BUS""
Let the moaning begin.
I guess it can be said that this years Eagles are one ot the worst in recent tim— HO HUM - Leave Marty Morningweg alone.— Realtor in Orlando
- Let Reid stay until the bitter end with his pal Vick. I want them to suffer as much as we have these last three years.— mario1239
- Time's yours... — jman
- As I keep saying. Bet on eagles to lose and you will come out ahead.— junk_dad
- Ok, I said I'd give Foles good look before I hung him out to dry, now lets get the rope and a very I tree branch. No more Foles talk please now you see this was a bad Reid pick just like Kolb was and I hope Andy gets to take him along when he gets fired. NO MORE Fole TALK!!!— realtruth
- Hey expert, you have judged Foles after 1 1/2 games? The Eagles have NO offensive line! — jman
- jman, its not just 1.5 games, there was a body work of Foles from Arizona, and it wasnt very good. Then he looked a little better against backups in preseason...and now you see how it was a mirage. I said on day 1 it was a bad pick because on tape he did NOT look very good. He throws wobbly passes with no one even pressuring him. A starting NFL QB needs to have a perfect spiral, with accuracy, almost every time. His pasess are weak and wobbly leading to incompletes and bobbled passes that get picked off more easily. 1st round QB's get the ball out quickly with a perfect spiral. Foles does not. Thats why he fell to the 3rd round, and 3rd ROUND QB's DO NOT WIN SUPERBOWLS VERY MUCH IN TODAYS NFL. ACTUALLY NEVER IN THE LAST 20 YEARS. 20 YEARS IN A ROW. In the last 7 years almost every SB winner was a 1st round pick, the only exception was Brees top of the 2nd round. Foles is not a franchise QB. Very unlikely.
- Brady — Eddie Spaghetti
- "Hail to the Redskins! Hail victory! Braves on the warpath, fight to fire Reid!!!"— power808
- Yes, about that draft pick... There's an awful lot of misery (and house cleaning) between now and then.— Mr. Magee
- The Eagles hit bottom when they had that horrible 2nd half against Detroit. That was the unofficial end of their season.— p-diddy
- DON'T FIRE REID UNTIL THE SEASON'S OVER! (No significant coaching change can be made now anyway - who are they going to get, Morninhweg?)
Andy's weekly public humiliation is his long-deserved comeuppance, and I'm enjoying it immensely.— jman - It's ABSOLUTELY fair to criticize Vick. But when you completely ignore the deficiencies in the OFFENSIVE offensive line, arguably the worst in football. And you ignore Steve Young, Trent Dilpher, and Ron Jaworski's critical analysis of the Offensive Line. And when you IGNORE the holes on the Defensive line and make a straight B line to making Vick the scapegoat, you not only lose credibility but you sound like an Idiot.— Minnesota VICKings
- Vick LOST FIVE GAMES IN A ROW..Vick would absolutely have lost today also, so don't even think about blaming the kid Foles in his first ever start....Troy Aikman was 0-16 with Cowboys in his FIRST SEASON..0-16...now Aikman won THREE SUPERBOWLS and is the hall-of Fame.....so give the kid Foles more at least a full season before judging him..— jim35
- The Eagles are bad, but the brain-dead WIP listenership is worse.— p-diddy
- Vick still stinks, Vick was 11-17 and lost FIVE GAMES IN A ROW...this was Foles FIRST START EVER in the NFL, so don't compare Vick's $100 million failure, to Foles who is a raw rookie in his FIRST GAME EVER....Troy Aikman was 0-16 in his rookie season, so you can't judge a rookie by until he has at least a full season.— jim35
- Firing Andy Reid now gives the Eagles a head start on their coaching search before the end of the season when other teams will also be getting rid of their coaches. If they do so now, they can have Marty as an interim until the end of the season while the team openly starts making inquiries to fill their coaching vacancy ahead of anyone else. That will give them a head start to talk to Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher or any other available candidates before someone else does.— PhillyFanInLA
- Please Mr. Lurie. Fire the coaching staff. I'm not sure these wouldn't be better off playing without all of this great leadership.— truthfirst
- This is the most overrated collection of Bums I have ever watched play Pro Football. There is no talent to speak of and the few that do have talent have quit giving 100% effort along with the others. They are currently the laughing stock of the NFL. Even the Halftime Show's crew was laughing at the pathetic play by the Eagles today. The future does not look bright, even with Reid and his Clown Coaches removed. You are still left with Howie Doody selecting more Busts for the next 5 years because the Owner looks at $$$ instead of Wins. They did win the Salary Cap Bowl again and thats the bottom line with Lurie! Any prospective Head Coach will report to a GM that doesn't know Football Talent and inherit about 40 of his failed picks! Fly Eagles Fly, on the road to Misery!— cooperhawk
- cooperhawk, THERE IS ONLY 1 THING I CAN SAY - YOU ARE 100% CORRECT. GREAT POST. — bedpan
- This is almost a flashback to the mid-sixties. I keep thinking I need to turn on Jim Leaming tomorrow evening at seven on KYW and watch Eagles Contact.
Nate Allen, Kurt Coleman, King Dunlap, Clay Harbor...where do they find these guys?— dasher - To all you idiots that comment that Foles sucks,..Foles=Bobby Hoying,..etc,..all I can say is you people epitomize the wretchedness of Philly sports fans and you are so predictably STUPID. Would you want to play behind this almost college worthy offensive line? And that's what it is, OFFENSIVE. Any rookie QB needs several games to get into game speed,..learn the nuances of a real NFL game, to read blitzes and start to get a feel to the speed of the game at this level. But to try to do so behind a team as pathetic and inept as this squad is,..makes that task even more daunting. So DO NOT blame this kid for making what are typical rookie mistakes. Stop being typical NEGADELPHIA fans and understand what is happening. This team is disintegrating before our eyes but it's not Foles' fault in any way. This ineptitude starts with Reid and ends with the lack of heart from the players. Foles is thrown into this pathetic mix and you expect miracles out of him with this line and play calling. GET REAL.— DCDiver
- The offensive line is the biggest problem, without a doubt. Even with all the guys back though the Birds wouldn't be winning the Super Bowl this year and people need to stop kidding themselves. Vick fan's need to stop kidding themselves. They have been waiting 11 years for the elite QB to become elite. The kid is tough, I will give you that and exciting, but not elite. The Birds D is not even close to being good enough to carry this team anywhere even if the offensive line was healthy. Well I hope Coach Reid is happy in San Diego because Birds fans are going to be happy he is their next year.— golson@florida
- Foles dad said his son is ready to take the reigns of this team. Uuuuh, no.— realtruth
- "Reins," maybe? — filzfan
- Foles dad said his son is ready to take the reigns of this team. Uuuuh, no.— realtruth
- folds proved that vick haters are idiots.. the kid couldnt win in arizona and he damn sure cant win behind this line. vick is still one of the best in the game but joe montana couldnt play behind this line. well atleast the philly fans know its over and its not vicks fault. get real and think of a new excuse because this season is over!!— blitzkrieg
- Sometimes I really don't understand if I'm watching the same game as some fans. Foles continued to put the ball in Celeks and other eagles receivers hands and no one showed. These receivers are not elite. Foles gets the ball quicker. We marched down the field several times. Oline penalty calls. Foles with a better Oline and better slot receivers will get the job done. Fans deserve another coach now to see who has heart for the rest of the season— Yes_General
- Vick should beg to get cut, since all GMs now see what Young, Jaws, & others have said for weeks. He's the scapegoat for a terrible team with a jr college OL.— tony11
- You can't polish a turd.— OnlySaneGuyLeftInTheRoom
- Actually the Mythbusters proved that you could. — RickVS
- Monday Night will be rock bottom.— Jeffritoe
- This has to be the worst offensive line in the history of the Eagles and that is saying a lot.— fanup
- At this point, losing is exactly what we want, so i don't really get all the anger. Why all the he said she said stuff. Vick wasn't good this year, the offense/defense/and special teams in general were all terrible. It's pointless to point fingers and puff out your chest defending certain players, especially since their aren't any players worth defending. We all are tired of the Andy Reid Era, so why win meaningless games. A top 3 draft pick could create some positive vibes along with a new regime. Assuming we don't draft a quarterback, we need some young leaders on defense. Alot of high profile defensive players should be gone next year, allowing young kids to prove their worth and officially start the rebuild. I'd expect 2 more really rough seasons before we start seeing improvement, but as long as we draft well, i'll put up with it.— Stephen45
- Andy's expertise is needed to beat K.C., Jacksonville, Cleveland, and Carolina to the bottom. Hello #1 draft pick. Come on ladies, don't let us down!— Barry Attrick
- Woooo Hooooo, only six more weeks of Cap'n Andy and his dreck of a wreck that he so pathetically assembled.— nasjo
- Vick stunk behind the O-line before all of the injuries. I would rather see a 10 week rookie stink than a 10 year vet. At least the Birds will get a decent draft pick.— 2ndNlong
From espn:
Foles got the start because Michael Vick is recovering from a concussion suffered in last week's loss to Dallas. But the Eagles with Foles resembled the Eagles with Vick -- capable of moving the ball downfield, only to have all the hard work negated by turnovers, penalties and a patchwork offensive line.
Key words: patchwork offensive line
I told you people that it wasn't all Vick. Did he make some mistakes? Sure he did, but THE ENTIRE TEAM SUCKS...not just the QB.
All we heard for almost the whole season is "Nick Foles this and that...pocket precence...quicker delivery" LMAO he SUCKS.
The Preseason doesn't mean sh%! for you "fans" that don't know. Nick "INT,Savior" Foles had NONE of what all you said he had except being tall. The line sucks people..no QB would survive...but the Philly fans are always so quick to bury their QBs..McNabb..Vick..everyone except for Jeff Garcia because he fit the city's "blue collar" persona.
If management was smart they would keep Vick..he's as close as a Franchise QB that you can get..and there's not one in the draft. Get rid of Mudd and Washburn and spend this high draft pick on the best O-lineman and get rid of that girl Maclin and get a WR who will make TOUGH catches. Start Cooper at the slot.
Vick ain't the problem. For those that thought he was, the Eye in the Sky doesn't lie.— elijah29- elijah29,
You lost me at "From espn". Anyone that quotes that ridiculous network for validation of their opinion is not worth reading. You probably also think that Berman's nickname schtick is still clever.— jman - Hahaha! Looks like the SuperBowl drought continues in 2012-13! Will the lowly losers ever win one???— Curlydubs
- Quote of the game, Merrill Reese - "At this point we're rooting the for the clock." I'm just watching the losses mount up until next years draft. By the way, offensive line should be tared and feathered.— PaulW
- I haven't seen this mentioned yet and I would like a little feedback on this....Shouldn't Reid's blatant disregard for his player's safety and well being be considered as a valid reason for his immediate firing? His outright refusal to use 2 tight ends, his refusal to keep a back in to max protect both QB's and his decision to keep McCoy in down 25 pts with under 2:00 and his subsequent reason for doing so should be enough, shouldn't it?— pnz1113
- I'm still behind the kid! We all know the line sucks, he didn't make a bunch of stupid mistakes. One ball off the hands of a receiver, one receiver fell down, those two ended in interceptions. One fumble while under big pressure.... not so bad in my book. I give him a C grade for his first start but I'm not feeling negative about it, he doesn't seem overmatched to me. I will stay the course with the kid and am optimistic about his abilities in particular processing information. I would love to see him lose that sidearm lower delivery and use his height to float a screen pass above the defender instead. But I like the kid and I think he's going to improve. Now, hire Jaws to fix the rest of this mess! IN JAWS I TRUST!— bentlip
- Vick still stinks.....Vick was 11-17 the past three years, and Vick has LOST FIVE GAMES IN A ROW...Vick would have absolutely lost this game also......can't blame this on Foles who is just a raw rookie in his first game ever...Troy Aikman was 0-16 in his rookie season and then developed and won three Super Bowls, so who knows if Foles ill get better and better like Aikman did..— jim35
- Isn't this the guy who wrote a while back that with 10 games remaining the Eagles still could make the playoffs? Still think that, Rich.— Ron T
- jlm35, Aimman was not a 3rd round pick though. He was a 1st rond pick, taken #1 OVERALL. He was extremely talented and could make all the throws, extremely well,with accuracy. Foles CANNOT. He has a WEAK DELIEVERY, ITS NOT ACCURATE. He was TERRIBLE at his pro day in front of all the scouts completely UN ACCURATE. THATS WHY HE WASNT TAKEN IN THE FIRST ROUND. THATS WHY 3rd ROUND QB's DO NOT WIN SUPERBOWLS ANYMORE. NOT SINCE 3 DECADES AGO. IT DOESNT HAPPEN BEAUSE MOST 3rd ROUND PICKS ARE BACKUPS OR AT BEST MARGINAL STARTERS.
- It would surprise if this team wins more the 4 games this year. Truly bad.— Philly.Tru
- You leave Nick Foles alone Troy Aikman was a loser before he finally won! yeah right! Foles is not, and never will be Troy Aikman!— taycom
- ng Let's start with the DBs...terrible; next O-Line 3 out of four terrible; O coaching terrible ; D coaching..talent;Special teams ...F minus.
Blow it up and start over. Maybe Brown and Polk develop.
— Montana6 - If Foles can play, we will never know with that rag tag O-line. I guess Vick will be back. Please Mr. Lurie, fire Andy now.— albion729
- What's unfortunate is Foles has potential, but putting him in with no protection from this screen door of an offensive line will cause him to learn bad habits the will ultimately lead to his failure. I agree; this dysfunctional team needs a giant enema. Andy and his whole gang of Happy Idiots need to be shown the door. Andy doesn't care; he's just going through the motions to collect a paycheck and this poison is contagious to players and coaches alike. Vick has been hit in the head too many times; he's gone too. The Eagles need to rebuild with management that makes decisions based on football fundamentals and not Dr. Reid's science projects and rehabs.— PhillyfaninFL
- Foles could have had some help from his receivers. That first pass interception clanked off the hands of Celeck. Same thing last week with Jackson..the ball bounced off his hands into the defenders. It appeared that in the second half Foles passes were short indicating poor form or footwork. Hope he gets another chance next week.— Bobbyeagle
Funny how the idiots talking about Donovan haven't seen a single playoff win since his departure.- Welcome to the Hotel Andy Reid. You can check out any time you like, but you can't ever leave.— eaglescali
- Right before that line, the guy sings " we are programmed to receive" ... Maybe he can replace DJax, Maclin and Celek, those guys can't receive anything. — drbob1
- I simply don't understand how the owner can watch this garbage and not fire Reid. He is an awful coach who had Johnson's defense win a lot of games for him. PLEASE FIRE REID and ALL his staff. NOW !!!— SteveCatr
- This has been in the making for the last three years. When Non-sheep fans like myself, Charlie Garner, Nugget ect. have been saying Reid must go we get crusched by his flock. I blame the Reid apologist more for this then even Reid, this should have ended three years ago. We will be digging out for a LOOOOOOOOOOOG time— yourdaddy!
- "your daddy" - you are spot on. That fluke win against the giants in Dec 2010 fooled a lot of people. Look at Eagles record since then - 11-18. Can't win the the NFL with midgets. Vick, Jackson, Maclin are all midgets at their position. Riley Cooper is the only decent sized receiver the Eagles have. — DallasEagle
- The only thing more sickening than this game was Brian Billick gushing about what a great coach Andy Reid is. What year does the dynasty start?— Bud Dry
- Foles almost looked as bad as that scrub Smug McKolb. Heard he flushed gold fish down the toilet as a kid too. Real bad seed.— treLoopy
- Andy Reid is going to get fired or will resign and that's definite. After all, he is the one who picked the players and the coaches as well as the offensive and defensive schemes. With that said, give it a rest. He lost his son and it is obvious that his head and heart have not been into the game. Andy has plenty of money and some team will hire him so Lurie should just do the merciful thing and get it over with.— Drumgoole
- $25 to park, worth going to the game? Nobody on this team is worth the price of admission.— SuperJ
- Mike Vick sucks, Trade or cut Vick. Foles is the future, Foles is the present, and should've been the past. Foles is gonna get a full week to work with the starters and rip the Redskins a new one. Foles is gonna take care of the ball, read defenses, and light it up. Bench Vick, Foles is gonna rescue us...........OOOOOOOPS!!!!!!!— ralph82
- @Yes_General, your watching the game through Foles colored glasses. Its funny how you now can see the receivers are not catching the ball, they were doing the same thing last season up till now when Vick was playing. Some of you see what you want when you want, Vicks not the sole problem and hasn't been as you now see.— realtruth
- You know it's bad when the 76ers are your bright spot.— coachie
- You know it's bad when the 76ers are your bright spot.— coachie
- Wait a minute, did 20 people actually give Foles a grade of an A for the performance he had today??????
Yes Philly really does have the dumbest fans in the world.
What a pathetic bunch of inbred losers.— ralph82 - @bentlip, I hope your kidding, please say your kidding.— realtruth
- Foles, given several years, may develop into a decent backup quarterback, although that seems unlikely. This team is going to be bad unfortunately for a long, long time. There is no one on the roster who has any value, with the possible exception of McCoy who has proven to be over rated this season. The real problem is that Howie can't pick talent, or worse, a coach.— F5
- this game showed me this team has no heart at all..they dont even care about winning their just going thru the motions. one play in particular bothered me more than anything..near the end of the second quarter griffin scrambled for a 1 yard gain and the ball came out as he was going down and the whistle did not blow..it was two eagles standing right next to the damn ball..didnt even see it and actwed as if the play was over..THE WHISTLE DIDNT BLOW IDIOTS! u see two redskins hustle to recover the ball then the whistle blew..im like wow. this team has no interest in winning and this effort surely says to me something is going on with this team behind closed doors..another thing..i think foles is going to be really good but not under this coaching staff..they rather get their qb killed and lose games thn help him and the team by having a ball control offense which would help them win more games..the team u saw beat the giants earlier in the season is the way they should always play. this gimmick and finese offense will only get u so far. it wont get better all u have to do is look at marty's interview about using the running game more two days ago. that tells u right there the first thing that needs to go is the coaching staff.— bigjay215
- How many picks do you guys think Roseman will get when he trades the first round pick away?— Scope33
- @jim35 and 2ndnlong. This game was Mike Vick's fault.— sighpatrol
- The season has been a crisis and Andy just doesn't have whatever it takes to manage around the injuries, depth, and other problems. The O Line is a disaster that has impacted everything. Why did they let Winston Justice and Shipley go when there is so little depth? As for Foles, it's his first game, but he was drafted as a backup in the third round and not as a franchise QB, wasn't he? Or was he?— jerseyshorefan
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- Yes, Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round. He is literally the one exception and he is in Bellicheks SYSTEM which allows him to be succesfull. Hes still good, but if he was on cleveland or something, he wouldnt be winning any superbowls. So out of probably 99 other QB's taken 3-7th round in the last 10 years, only 1 has won a SB, Tom Brady. 1 out of 100. 99% chance you will NOT be getting a SB winning QB with a 6th round pick. DO YOU WANT TO BASE YOUR ENTIRE STRATEGY ON A 1% CHANCE ? I HOPE NOT, BECAUSE YOU WILL NEVER BE WINNING A SUPERBOWL WITH HOWIE MAKING THOSE PICKS. Now if you look at 1st round picks...6 of the last 7 superbowls were won by 1st rounders...there were probably about 30 QB's taken in the first round in the last 10 years. thats a 33% succes rate vs 1%. YOU HAVE A 33X BETTER CHANCE OF WINNING A SUPERBOWL WITH A FIRST ROUND PICK THEN A 6TH OR 3RD ROUND PICK. 33X TIMES BETTER. ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE.
- Was Kurt Warner even drafted? — mwcnabb
- Was he picked in the 3rd round ? or the 6th ? or anywhere ? NO. So the fact is you are MORE LIKELY TO WIN A SUPERBOWL BEING UNDRAFTED THEN BEING A 3RD ROUND PICK IN TODAYS NFL. You have 5 1st rounders with 7 superbowls, a 2nd rounder with 1, and a 6th rounder, Brady, with 3. 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 7th round picks have not won a superbowl in over a decade. It is possibly WORSE to get drafted in the 3rd round then to get DRAFTED AT ALL IN MY OPINION. REALLY. AND THATS NOT JUST ME, PROFESSIONAL SCOUTS AGREE.
- Foles knows what's up...his first was always to Riley Blooper. Don't even think he knew that #10 was on the field.— treLoopy
- Andy Reid's been here 14 years and the Eagles had to win their last 3 games last year just to get to 8-8, and now when it's even worse, everybody starts to notice? It's not rocket science folks. Andy Reid is average as a head coach, and sucks evaluating football talent in the draft.— AmRifleman
- Let Reid coach the team to 3-13 as punishment. and we will hear how great of a coach he is, blah, blah, blah.— Tyrone Biggums
- now the truth so many of you have been waiting for is finally confirmed.for the entire tenure of this regimes existence other than some good defense donovan mcnab has carried andy reid the entire time he was here.wether anyone likes him or not even right now as bad a shape as he's in he could have carried even this sad sorry bunch of mis-fits.truth is he made the offense the best they were with what he had.oh sure you can throw him under the bus now but the glory days of this organization are long gone.and from every angle im looking at on these girl like players,its gonna be another 20-25 years before the eagles ever compete for anything other than celler dwellers.its time to gine the gold standard their pink slips.— arkdad212
- Bring back Juan as head coach.— TripleCap
- Can't blame Foles for this, he is a rookie and needs more time.
Andy, it appears you are heading closer to those walking papers.
Trying to stick with the hometown team, but it is just getting
more difficult with each game that is played.— donher - I said last year that the eagles effectively were the redskins of the NFC East. I was wrong. They are worse. In fact they are the worst team in the NFL. Will take years to fix this mess.— DallasEagle
- Anyone who saw Foles play at Arizona knew he wasn't up to the job. In college he blamed his WRs and whined and sulked. He's no answer.— 2smart4philly
- Shady McCoy has a concussion. Thanks Andy! Only a gross incompetent would have one of the premier running backs in the NFL on the field in the last 2 minutes of a game that they were losing by 25 points. Between that and his notoriously atrocious clock management, does this man even know how to tell time?— Bud Dry
- i've finally come to the conclusion that the NFL might exist until the sun explodes in 3 million years and the eagles will never win a super bowl in all of that time.— jakeAZ
- Fire Andy!— TVGuy22
- Uh....for you dummies that are still talking ISH about the Mike Vick Experience, STFU! Foles went out there and couldn't do anymore than Mike Vick did. I guess you haters finally see that this O Line isn't even college worthy. They couldn't even block for Fels High School. Get real Foles-lovers. The Eagles are cooked and done! Stick a fork in 'em. Hopefully we lose all the rest of these games to get a number 1 pick in the draft! Why watch anymore games? We KNOW the outcome by now! Who cares if they win anymore games at this point? And no, we don't have the Sixers to look forward to either. No Bynum means no playoffs. When do the Philadlephia Soul start? They are the future for Philly champions at this point!— Panthro2011
- Troy Aikman was 0-16 his rookie season....Joe Montana was a third round pick, same as Nick Foles...Tom Brady was a sixth round pick that nobody thought could play QB in the NFL...Foles broke all of Bree Brees high school passing records so you know he is a very accurate passer...also Foles completed 16 passes in a row against Univ of Southern California, so yeah this kid can really throw...but like every rookie he will need time to get the feel of the speed and blitzes in the NFL...Give Foles a full season and he will keep getting better and better, he is only 22 years old.— jim35
- Reid 68-60 since '04 SB loss. 3-4 in playoffs.— Bradley85
- Montana6 Add Celek over rated, hands of stone!! Wide receivers weak!! linebackers weak!! Mudd, and Washburn..horrible!!— Chosen one
- Philadelphians deserve every measure of suffering as comeuppance for their idiotic vote for President..when this country gets someone qualified to run the country maybe the city can get a competitive football team— warbiscuit
- Let's see, this year's done, next year's done, the following year is done, so maybe in a few years we'll have a competitive team.— harbo
- Let me guess: Reid has to do a better job.— Bruce in NM
- what does garrett reid, aj feeley, bobby hoying, nick foles, kevin kolb and doug peterson have in common?— AlwaysRight
- Move ROSEMAN into BANNER'S SPOT, and hire JAWORSKI to be the GM.FOOTBALL man for FOOTBALL'S top position.[CLEAN HOUSE]— tudj
- Could it just be another case of
LOSERDELPHIA FREEDOM!?!
LOVE YA LOVE YA YES WE DO!— john holmes - After alll the times your birds ran the score up on the Redskins it was so nice to see my team kick the Eales teeth in this afternoon.
Don't bother to write back I'll be long gone.
Happy miserable conclusion to you season.
PS Any team that would have anything to do with Vick deserves only the wort - as you're now getting.— pd2710 - pd2710 - another product of the DC public school system. — jman
- MRD obviously lives a rich, full life. Says he's in NYC and the only thing he can find to do is troll on Philly.com.
And Philly.com has a football app for smart phones. I'll be their servers can't keep up with the demand.
— Bruce in NM - can't wait to hear our home drunk fanbase next week against carolina. Understandable if you have tix and must go...but we need to start hurting them in the pocket. Let the team know how you feel...bag heads, signs, boos and chants. try not to hurt babins feelings though.— EaglesinVA
Hows that Danny Watkins experiment working out? Please no more talk about Chuckie Gruden, he been out of football for too long; need to cover billy penn head with a pillow case- Listened to the game on the drive back from the DC area. Sonny Jurgensen said he wished the Redskins could play the Eagles every week. Lurie are you listening?— RH
- Could it just be LOSERDELPHIA Freedom?— john holmes
- The players on defense should be ashamed of themselves. They take bad angles; they blow coverage’s and don't seem to WANT TO tackle or can't tackle very well: numbers 23, 24, and 42 in particular. Continue to call for Reid's job, and maybe rightfully so because he assembled these non players in defense; and the undersized players on offense. But more than firing Reid, many players need to be cut immediately for the way they play, like they would surely be cut immediately if they were playing like they’ve been if they were in a patriot uniform. Cut Celeck too.— publicservant
- Why do these out-of-town trolls still post here, thinking they are adding to our misery? Don't they get it that we WANT the Eagles to continue to lose (this season), so that there is no possible justification for Lurie to keep Reid? The team can't get better until Reid, his staff, and his player selections (are all gone. The ONLY exception is McCoy. The other 52 need to be purged over the next 2 seasons, with the worst 26 players released the day after a new coach is hired.— jman
- I can honestly say this is the worst Eagles Team since the mid 80's and late 90's. They play with no pride, they won’t tackle, can't cover, can’t run the ball, and just all around suck!!! I think they should fire Reid, Marty, Bowles and the entire team. Draft players who want to play and win the game of Football, hire coaches who are innovated and who know how to call and manage the game. Andy looks lost just like his team!!!! This game was painful to watch as well as an embarrassment to the entire Eagles nation. Someone please hit the reset button and lets start over!!— MountAiry1303
- Say goodbye to Andy Reid. But the problem is also The young GM Roseman. He is not a sports guy. He is just a lawyer. He cannot evaluate talent or players. Look at the past 5 drafts. All the players they passed, or the bogus moves they made. Lurie needs to get rid of both, not to mention some players as well (Namndi, Babin Graham) Please every draft I would say why move up, or why pass on this guy, or why not pick up the guy that was just waived. I even called WIP idiots all of them.— anthonyy15
- turned me back into a sixers fan.
— baggybrown - Yeah. let Marty run the team into the ground the next 6 weeks just to prove they all need to be fired. As if we need further proof ...— petergou
- I want Reid fired tonight, but who deserves to have to coach this team for the next 6 weeks more than Andy Reid? Big red, you broke it , you bought it. Until New Years Eve, then fire him before the Auld Lang Synes are sung.— drbob1
- Mr. Lurie, I am a lawyer. I played sports my whole life. I will work for free and make your team better by evaluating players through draft and free agency. I am licensed in PA NJ and FL. Background includes teaching, Psychology and law. But I know passion and sports very well. I will work for free. Then if you like what I do we can talk about a reasonable salary. peace— anthonyy15
- Why change? We've been the Gold Standard for over 14 years. We will have a top 5 pick and select another defensive end and for good measure we'll take another one in the 2nd round. Our fans tell us we stink but we don't believe them because we are the Gold Standard. Suckers!— Jeff Lurie
- I do not like what the player evaluators have done over the past 5 years. Please look at all the errors in the draft and free agency. Please clean house. a good cleaning.— anthonyy15
- The good thing about the coming high draft pick is that Roseman can reach to get the 31 year old pharmacist that he's been eyeing ever since landing the 27 year old fireman.— bill_atkin,s
