Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 3:18 AM | 80 comments |
 
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Tough times a-head for Marty Turco?

NEWARK, N.J. – Before a flake of snow could accumulate on the ground in Philadelphia on Tuesday night, the internet was brimming with a flurry of Flyers rumors.

Surprisingly, it wasn’t about Ray Emery and his injury concerns.

Rather, it was about another goaltender: the Dallas Stars’ Marty Turco, who quickly became a trending topic on Twitter.

Turco officially became expendable by the Stars on Tuesday when they acquired Kari Lehtonen from Atlanta for defenseman Ivan Vishnevskiy and a 4th round pick. The deal was finalized late Tuesday night.

Turco’s name, though, has been connected with the Flyers in the rumor mill for weeks.

Rogers Sportsnet’s Nick Kypreos was the first to report on Tuesday that the Flyers are at the top of the list for Turco, helping fuel the frenzy.

That potential move could be interesting, given Ray Emery’s current health situation and Michael Leighton’s experience in the NHL playoffs – coupled with the fact that Turco will be an unrestricted free agent come July 1.

But here’s why Turco coming to Philadelphia is more than a long shot:

1. Salary - Turco’s cap hit is $5.7 million. That means the Flyers would need to sacrifice about $5.2 million in salary in a trade with the Stars just to fit him under the cap this season.

To recap, the Flyers’ list of no-trade or no-movement clauses: Simon Gagne, Danny Briere and Kimmo Timonen.

2. Playoff history: Is Marty Turco the goaltender that the Flyers think will put them over the top? Turco holds a bunch of Stars records (wins, shutouts, games played) and a modern NHL record (1.72 GAA in a season, 2002-03) but his success has never converted to the playoffs. Since Turco became Dallas’ full-time starter in 2002-03, the Stars have gone to the playoffs every year but one. Those trips have included four first round exits and one trip the Western Conference Semifinals.

The Flyers went that far with Marty Biron in 2007-08. He walked as a free agent last July.

3. The short-term: Do the Flyers want to sacrifice a potential impact player for their playoff run in order to acquire Turco, who wouldn’t be guaranteed to be Flyers’ property come 2010-11?

That’s the same dilemma this franchise faced when weighing Ilya Kovalchuk.

4. The long-term: If the Flyers do acquire Turco, is he definitely the Flyers’ long-term solution? A change in scenery may do Turco some good. While his stats have never been horrible, this season hasn’t been his best in Dallas.

But if the Flyers trade a decent piece or two to acquire him – and are willing to lock him up for a few years – they need to be sure he is the right piece.

It’s important to keep in mind that Turco turns 35 in August when thinking long-term.

Chew on this: Flyers general manager Paul Holmgren is on the record last week, saying the Flyers don’t have any interest in Turco. Then again, Holmgren insisted the Flyers didn’t have any interest in Kovalchuk.

We know he was involved in some way in those trades talks. How much? We’ll never know.

The same applies for this situation. But I’d bet Holmgren will be on the horn with Stars GM Joe Nieuwendyk at some point on Wednesday just to check in.

For now, Nieuwendyk told the Dallas Morning News on Tuesday that “it’s still [Turco’s] net” and he will stick with three goalies for now.

Nieuwendyk’s hand was forced, really, as Lehtonen was the only young and unproven goaltender that was available for a reasonable price. The Stars were set to enter the offseason with four goalies as unrestricted free agents.

Just three points out of a playoff spot, is Lehtonen – who hasn’t played a game this season – the Stars’ goalie for their playoff push? That’s not the Flyers’ problem. But if he isn’t, will the Stars hang on to Turco and let him walk in July?

Before push can come to shove, Holmgren needs to make a few decisions:

-Does Emery require surgery on his hip? If so, does he need it now or can he finish the season? Not fully healthy, does he give the Flyers their best chance to win?

-Is Emery the Flyers’ goaltender of the future?

-Does Emery’s health have any impact on whether the Flyers would be interested in Turco?

The heat is on: the NHL roster freeze sets in on Friday night at midnight and lasts until Feb. 28 – when the Olympics end. After that, Holmgren will have just four days to talk shop until the NHL’s trade deadline on March 3 at 3 p.m.

The clock is ticking.

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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 3:27 AM, 02/10/2010
    Im speechless! Goaltending and Defense havent been our problem. We need some scoring help. Hell, if we're gonna make a trade with Dallas, id rather have Nieuwendyk than Turco at this point.
    Neebo
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 4:21 AM, 02/10/2010
    jeeez, Hartnell has one a so does Richards... Not to mention, if you put Emery on IR, you dont really need to shed over 5M in salary. Around 4M is more reasonable.
    mato.daco
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  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:12 AM, 02/10/2010
    Whose running this show? Alphonse or Gaston and are their offices on the corner of Mold amd Mildew?
    rockinrob
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:17 AM, 02/10/2010
    I'd only take Turco if (a) Emery needs surgery AND (b) They'd take Hartnell for him. Both would have to apply. The Stars have a cheaper version of Coburn in Matt Niskanen too. If Emery is out, I'd see if Dallas would give us Turco and Niskanen for Hartnell and Coburn.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 5:31 AM, 02/10/2010
    Turco was overworked last season, his stats headed south, and Dave Tippett lost his coaching job. Turco has been getting more rest this year, his game is slightly better, but it is no secret that Dallas owner Tom Hicks has major financial problems and they want to dump salary. Flyers fans jump on Ed Snider but money is not a problem with that man as it is with other NHL owners.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:52 AM, 02/10/2010
    Ridiculous! Turco is not coming here. To give up an offensive player for Turco and his 5+mil. is absurd.
    oldhat
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 6:53 AM, 02/10/2010
    Wow. You really should do some research before writing. Hartnell and Richie have clauses, too.
    Downie27
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:21 AM, 02/10/2010
    Homer must be stopped! He is getting us into a late 80's early 90's mess again. About time for Ed to bring back Clarkie.
    ericg610
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:22 AM, 02/10/2010
    You are so right neebo...we need offense, with losses in which we give up 1 and 2 goals, defense is definitely not the problem. Of course, if we could somehow trade Hartnell for a goalie it is almost a wash offensively....in fact, if we could get a goalie like Hextall used to be, we might get more offense.
    d.w.d.
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 7:50 AM, 02/10/2010
    Turco? Turco? Who would make a trade for an overpaid, over the hill goalie? Oh yeah, probably Holmgren. I used to think this guy knew what he was doing, but some of his deals the last 2-3 years make you wonder. And btw, whenever he opens his mouth and says the Flyers aren't doing something, they are. Seems only a week ago he lied to a few reporters faces about Emery not being hurt. I think Paul took one too many stupid penalties and more than one too many blows to the head during his playing days. And lets not even count the bar fights....
    Mark1npt
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:03 AM, 02/10/2010
    Lets face it, the Flyers will only squeak into the playoffs. And probably will exit in the 1st round. So why even deal with goal tending..... Leighton and Boucher can handle the load if Emery gets surgery. I like the talk of unloading Hartnell for something better. I've been harping for months about his non-stellar play this season. Its time to make the move.
    whsbuss
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:07 AM, 02/10/2010
    That's our style...a goalie past his prime. WOW, whens the last time we did that (Emery not included). I wasn't a big Emery fan but he has played well when healthy. Then Lavy overplayed him coming off an injury. So how about Chris Mason from the Blues? Get rid of Cote and his salary, let Boosh go and trade say Gagne for Mason and Kariya (UFA). Gets us a goalie with some promise and a sniper.
    67Flyer
  • 0 like this / 0 don't   •   Posted 8:16 AM, 02/10/2010
    schultz08: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SNIDER'S CASH. Holmgrem has mismanaged the CAP to a terrible point; they can't spend their way out of this one: Dale Hawerchuck, Paul Coffey, Danny Briere, what a legacy of disappointment. Where is The Big E?
    MichaelZoe
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About Frank Seravalli
Frank Seravalli is in his fourth year with the Daily News and third season covering the Flyers. He started at the Daily News as an intern writing about the boozing legends of the Lincoln Financial Field lots and hasn't left. Since joining the Flyers beat, he has covered everything from the Winter Classic to the Stanley Cup Final and everything in between. Prior to joining the Daily News, the Bucks County native did a large amount of freelance work for local media outlets, covering high schools, colleges and all four of Philly's major sports teams. He resides in Center City. E-mail Frank at seravaf@phillynews.com and follow him on Twitter @DNFlyers.

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