Flyers interested in Redden?
On Thursday, the Rangers will wipe their hands clean of Wade Redden and move on. Could the Flyers be interested?
Flyers interested in Redden?
Frank Seravalli
On Thursday, the Rangers will wipe their hands clean of Wade Redden and move on.
The much-maligned defenseman, who never lived up to a 6-year, $39 million deal signed in 2008, is expected to clear waivers around noon on Thursday. At that point, the Rangers are expected to buy out Redden from the remaining two seasons on his deal.
(Canadiens forward Scott Gomez is expected to receive a similar fate.)
The NHL originally settled on allowing each team two amnesty “compliance buyouts” for smoother transition down from a $70.2 million salary cap to a $64.3 million cap in 2013-14. They were not to take place until next summer.
Both the Rangers and Canadiens told Redden and Gomez to not report to camp. There was no NHL roster spot for them. And rather than send them to the AHL, where anything more than $900,000 now counts against the cap, teams did not want to risk injury. Injured players are not eligible for participation in the compliance buyouts.
So, the NHL and NHLPA agreed this week to allow each team to buyout one player from their roster before this shortened season.
The caveat: players bought out prior to this season will be paid their full salary for this season. Teams will also be hit with a full salary cap for this season. Players will still become free agents immediately. The buyout will essentially go into effect next season, with the team responsible for a two-thirds payment on the remaining salary, with the salary cap hit being spread out over double the term remaining.
For example:
Wade Redden - Defenseman - New York Rangers, 35 years old
Original deal: 6 years, $39 million, to expire after 2013-14 season
2012-13 salary: $5 million (prorated). 2012-13 NYR cap hit: $6.5 million
---if bought out Thursday, immediate free agent ---
2013-14 salary: $1.65 million. 2013-14 NYR cap hit: $1.65 million
2014-15 salary: $1.65 million. 2014-15 NYR cap hit: $1.65 million
---contract terminates---
Redden would become a free agent on Thursday. He can double-dip and be paid by both the Rangers and a new club for this shortened season.
Are the Flyers interested?
The Flyers are in need of defensive help. Andrej Meszaros (Achilles) may not start the season. Erik Gustafsson (ankle) and Marc-Andre Bourdon (concussion) are not healthy.
“I am of the belief that you can never have too many defensemen,” Flyers GM Paul Holmgren said last week.
Redden, 35, has been buried in the AHL for the last two seasons with the Connecticut Whale, where he collected 62 points in 119 games. He did not play during the lockout.
Redden has good hockey sense. He’s experienced, has played in the playoffs. He’s been noted as a good locker room presence. He makes a good first pass. But his foot speed is in serious question.
Amazingly, word is making its way through the rumor mill that despite his client’s lack of high-level activity, agent Don Meehan of Newport Sports will be seeking somewhere around (a prorated) $1.5 million or $2 million for this season. That’s a steep price.
I'm going to say it's unlikely to happen, give a lot of circumstances.
Had Redden become a free agent when the CBA was ratified, as opposed to now, the Flyers would be a lot more interested, according to a source.
For one, the Flyers just committed to defenseman Kurtis Foster. They signed him to a one-year, $950,000 contract on Sunday, the first day of free agency. We delved into Foster’s injury history in detail this week. If healthy, he could be an asset. But he is still a third-pairing defenseman.
The Flyers have an abundance of third-pairing defensemen: Bruno Gervais, Foster, Andreas Lilja (waived Wednesday) ... you could just as easily replace those names with Oskars Bartulis, Ryan Parent and Lukas Krajicek for fun (or indigestion).
For the Flyers, cap space isn’t an issue.
But contract space is the issue. The Flyers are currently committed to 49 contracts out of the league maximum of 50. They need to keep room for Scott Laughton, who does not currently count among the 49, since he is likely to stick with the Flyers for at least the opening weekend of the season with Danny Briere (wrist) out of the lineup.
If Laughton were to play in 6 games this season, he would not only burn 1 year of his entry-level deal, but he would also put the Flyers at the 50-contract limit.
Yes, the Flyers can make any sort of deal with another team to get rid of a contract at a moment’s notice most times. They could theoretically sign a player like Redden now, have Laughton play 5 games and then send him back to OHL Oshawa.
I get the sense now, though, that the Flyers are less interested in Redden. Particularly at that steep price.
Still, if Redden were to somehow get down to a $1 million number, or even less, I believe a number of teams would be in line for his services. The Islanders are one rumored team. Edmonton and Columbus may also be interested. The Flyers could then be in the mix.
Something to think about.
CAP CENTS: Since the Flyers will not be near the $70.2 million upper-limit for this season, I've gotten word the team is likely to leave Chris Pronger (concussion-like symptoms) and Matt Walker (hip/back) on regular injury reserve for as long as possible. Since the salary cap is calculated based on days (99 this year) and not a full season or games, each day under the salary cap (and not in LTIR mode) would bank the Flyers more space. The Flyers would move either Walker or Pronger to LTIR if necessary to make a major transaction before the April 3 trade deadline.
THE NOODLE: Carolina placed former Flyer Andreas Nodl on waivers on Wednesday. Nodl, 25, did not rack up many points (7) last season after being claimed off waivers by the Hurricanes from the Flyers.
Nodl still has strong ties to the Flyers organization. He also spent a good bit of time working out in Philadelphia toward the end of the lockout, after returning from playing in his native Austria.
Nodl, who scored 11 goals in 2010-11, never really seemed to be one of Peter Laviolette's guys. Two drawbacks on a claim: Eric Wellwood already provides a similar style of game... and the Flyers’ contract issues as explained above.
BOBBY BIG WHEEL: Local product Bobby Sanguinetti, who was born in Trenton but played a big part of his youth hockey in and around the Philadelphia/NJ metro area before moving to the OHL, finally appears to be a lock to make the Carolina Hurricanes this year.
It's been a long road for Sanguinetti, a 2006 1st rounder by the Rangers, who has tallied just 8 NHL games so far. The AHL All-Star defenseman netted 50 points in 60 games with the Carolina Checkers last season.
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- You're correct, the Rangers would not trade any of their top 5 d-men for Timmo today. And he has had a stellar career, especially for the Flyers.
— backhand 
Frank, you say: "Injured players are not eligible for participation in the compliance buyouts." So with Pronger certainly on IR and/or LTIR this year, the Flyers can't buy him out over the summer? They'll have to play out the LTIR story for several more seasons? Fine, if they have to. I had just been figuring that Pronger and Bryzgalov were the prime candidates for the two compliance buyouts, given how much space that would create. Maybe Briere becomes a candidate if this season reveals more decline...?— PhilaLogic- Give me a f-in break!!! The flyers DO NOT need a 35 yr old has been!!— bigdaddyG
- Listen man, I think your comments suggest it is you who lacks player knowledge. Those 3 players are top 4 guys, period. Your inquisition about trading Timonen simply makes no sense. Trading a 37 year old pro is difficult because people, like yourself, devalue him purely on age. Pull up his career stats and take a look at a model of consistency. he is worth more to the Flyers than any other team. His career parallels another former Flyer D, Eric Desjardins, who was a stalwart himself for many, many years. You can only hope players liek Del Zotto, Girardi and Staal (who's career has been stunted by severe post-concussion syndrome) can accomplish hlf the things Timonen has. Enough already.— Richie Captain
- Scott Stevens was a headhunting punk.— Richie Captain
- PASS!— Breaking Bad
- Richie Captain...I have been a Flyers fan since inception..attended their 1st game at Spectrum..have been season tix holder for many many years...have played..and coached hockey...Trust me I know hockey..Timmo is a Hall of Famer but my point was that "TODAY" not one of the Flyer defensemen could break into the Rangers top 5 and no realistic Flyer fan could argue that point. You forgot Mcdonagh who is probably their best D man..and to show what you know Staal had 1 concussion and played the 2nd half of last year and the playoffs with no issue...I am looking at today..the future not the past ( not that the Flyer past has been anything to brag about)..you want to drink the Kool Aid go ahead Mr Snider keeps selling it— flyers1000
- As I stated earlier, I agree with your logic vis-a-vis Timmo without qualification. But can you stop accusing every optimist of being a Kool-Aid drinker?
— backhand - "The Flyers have no defense." "The Flyers have no goalie." "The Flyers will be lucky to make the playoffs." Come back tomorrow and watch me post the same thing again!!!!— The Parrot
He wouldn't have to be our #1 guy, or anything close to our number one guy. If we can sign him for just over $1.5 million, I don't see why not. If he has even mediocre production it'd be worth it!- Flyers1000, I think you are exaggerating to make a point. I would agree with you to the extent that if we are talking about the total package, the Rangers D is better. However, I would take Coburn and Meszaros over MDZ (had sophomore slump and barely got paid), Gilroy, or anyone else not named McDonagh, Staal, and Girardi. It is still saying a lot to say that the Rangers top 3 are better than our best, but it is utterly exaggerating to suggest that none of our guys would crack their top 5. Nevertheless, you are entitled to your opinion.— puttinonthefoil
- Meszaros looks ready to go which is a good news.
Timonen Schenn
Coburn Grossmann
Meszaros Foster— Nitroglycerin - Pronger Jr.— KingOfPhilly
- another losing team, who cares what they do????? Why don't they wear clown uniforms, it would be more fitting!— avogel36
